We've made it to the late season for coyote calling. There's been a lot of coyotes called to and a lot of coyotes killed. FOXPRO's Jon Collins and MFK's Torry Cook discuss calling coyotes in the month of March.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls
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we're back with another episode of the
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Foxpro podcast once again we're joined
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by Tori cook of mfk Tori Last time I saw
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you were making coyote stands together
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down in Texas wasn't we man we had a
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heck of a hunt with Chris down there
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with the night crew I think me and you
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both went in thinking are we going to do
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any night hunting we ended up doing no
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night hunting we just smashed them in
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the daytime one of the best hunts I've
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ever been on oh man 18 coyotes in two
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days I think we hunting one afternoon
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then we were rained out the next day
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then hunted a full day and then another
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afternoon and man we had the fox Pro x24
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singing we absolutely smoked them
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oh it couldn't I don't think it could
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have been any better I guess we could
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have killed some more coyotes if we
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weren't milking the video footage right
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that's part of filming and for filming
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and just the the people I was with you
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couldn't couldn't have had a better hunt
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oh yeah I mean uh me and Tori have known
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each other for years and and done a few
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other things together and have been
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around each other that's the first time
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we've ever shared some coyote stands and
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you know I hope you feel the same way
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toward but I'm gonna make sure it ain't
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it ain't our last we're gonna be on
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another hunter three if I have anything
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to do with it oh no doubt about it and
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that's another thing we had that one
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stand where that coat was right on top
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of us and
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I'm sure all of us caught on none of us
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had ever hunted together me you or Chris
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and honey together
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but it it seemed like we'd hunted
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together because everything clicked I
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mean everything you didn't have to
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communicate on some of those stands that
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was a sticky stand and oh man we didn't
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have to communicate I mean it's like
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we'd been hunting together everybody
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knew
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what was going on and what was going to
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happen next without even saying anything
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right yeah that that's a that's a
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memorable stand and and everybody out to
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our list and you'll see it see it soon
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enough it uh man what just what a hump I
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mean uh I can't say enough about I can't
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wait to do it again
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me either I mean it's like like we
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already see As Good As It Gets that's
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right well Tori what I'd like to discuss
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on this episode is March coyote calling
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March is what many Hunters kind of
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consider the late season most hunters
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have been calling since fall back fall
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began and you've also got your hardcore
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collars been hunting all through the
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summer fall and winter
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you know when the March rolls around
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there have been a lot of coyotes killed
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obviously and a lot of coyotes is being
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called to and the coyotes that that have
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actually made it through to this time of
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year are most likely educated simply put
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March Colin can breathe can be pretty
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tough for a lot of hunters uh Tori can
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you tell us at this stage what's going
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on in a coyote's Life as we move out of
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out of February and into March
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well of course breeding is just wrapping
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up I think the uh the last coat that I
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know for sure was in standing heat was
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on well about that February 19th point
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so you know another week actually going
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out of heat that'll get you right there
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to that March time frame and then those
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coats are going to minor or coming out
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of breeding and you can tell that
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they're already getting dented on their
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mind because they're starting to dig I
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think there's just something instinctual
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about the coach the mail's included even
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the the males and females
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the ones that are not bread they still
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almost have an instinctual urge it seems
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like to start digging and I mean a lot
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of times they don't do much with it
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they'll dig a hole a foot deep and then
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they quit right but they don't do that
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at other times of the year where they're
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just constantly digging and that's what
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they're doing right now I'm starting to
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see these goats digging digging digging
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and some of these uh females are going
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ahead and there's one Old Dan site that
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they have cleaned out and they're
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working on right now so it's they're
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getting it on their mind and we've
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talked about it before even though the
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pups are not here
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those Scouts instinctually get
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Denim and pup rearing on their mind and
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so those pull up sounds start playing a
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role
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long before those pups actually get here
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and we're kind of rolling into that
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right now and the coats are showing me
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that they've got it on their mind
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because they are starting to clean out
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some of those dents right and so they're
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cleaning out dens and like you said
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they're they're actively digging even if
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it's not cleaning out an old Den you see
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them I guess do you see them digging a
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little bit they're kind of like just
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kind of testing around to see if a spot
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they might want to dig a new Den so to
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speak I guess I guess it's it's like
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like I said I think it's it's almost
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like an instinctual trigger in them to
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where they start
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getting dating on their mind and they'll
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just start digging holes and doing more
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digging than what they would you know
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other times of the year and you'll even
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see males and other females you know dig
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holes and get in holes but they they
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don't stay in them and I think most
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people know cows don't typically Den
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unless they're you know unless they have
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pups but they've definitely got
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appropriate on their mind having pups on
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their mind and we can take advantage of
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that this next month even though like
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you said March is this time of the year
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for multiple reasons is a tough time to
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call yeah it's it's just one of those
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transition periods you know like you
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said they've uh they've been breeding
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it's been the breeding season and now
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that's slacking off so a lot of these
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sounds and sequences that have been on
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fire
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you know they'll continue to work but
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they'll start you know working less and
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less and less as we go on and when you
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get caught in that period between
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breeding and them actually throwing
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their pups out it can be it can be tough
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for people and it's not just just that
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you know it's they've been hunted so
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much through this time of year they've
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heard so many sounds you know they've
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heard all kinds of different prey
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distress they've heard all these fights
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they've heard her house and stuff it you
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really gotta you might have to change
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things up to continue continually have
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success and uh yeah and what
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go ahead no you go ahead what are you
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gonna say oh I was gonna say I was gonna
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say we something else that we mentioned
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you've mentioned in the earlier podcast
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talking about getting into this time of
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the year right now is when the
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population is at its lowest because
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we're the farthest away from
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when they had books you know this past a
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year ago right so all some of those
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codes died of natural causes hit by cars
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whatever and then a pile of them have
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been killed from people uh hunting them
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and and smashing on them
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so you get and not only not only do you
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have fewer cows but the ones that are
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left like you said have been uh they've
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heard it so it makes it makes it tough
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and then another thing to add to that is
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Windows Codes start getting dented on
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their mind and puppy they're this can be
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a plus it can also be a big negative or
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something hard to overcome their area
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shrinks so when they start getting
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dented on their mind the coach that are
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left the ones participating in Denton
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their area shrinks way down so they're
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not coming all this far which if you
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don't know where they're denting it that
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makes it or can make it hard to call
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those cows because you just may be too
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far away from them when you set up it
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can also be a plus if you do know where
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that is because you can sleep in there
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pretty tight to them they're more
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aggressive that time frame and you know
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so there's some
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there's some tricky things going on with
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this time of the year that uh if you if
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you know about cow behavior and just
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take everything into consideration you
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can still have success
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well let me ask you talking about these
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dinning locations does it make sense for
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hunters to focus on areas that that they
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know coyotes have din pups historically
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in the past just to try to come you know
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hone in on those areas
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absolutely I think not always sometimes
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you'll have you know just like with
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anything else but
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usually when an animal coyote or
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whatever it is if there's something
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about a spot that they like
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even if they're not well if those cows
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are still alive and they raised
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successfully they have a tendency to
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come back to those same areas and even
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if something happens to those goats
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there's usually something about that
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area that attracted them in the first
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place right and so it's a good spot for
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future coats
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to uh to use his insights if not and a
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lot of times it'll be in the same Den
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but if not in the same Den there's
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something about that area you know food
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water whatever it is right that attracts
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them to that spot so those are
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definitely good areas to hone in on yeah
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you know I've definitely I'm definitely
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one of those people that don't have
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endless ground to hunt especially right
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here close to home but you know you know
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I've hunted summer coyotes uh for years
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you know trying to focus in on the
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insights and I've definitely got a few
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properties you know I could take you in
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there and start hunting June say first
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day of June and I can tell you say Tori
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we're gonna howl one's going to answer
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250 yards over to the right and we're
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going to start playing puppy sounds and
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he's going to come out right beside it's
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going to be a big old mill Coyote's
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going to come out right beside that
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white oak tree and we won't Hammer him
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and sure enough just like you know and
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it's just from years of hunting at
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location there's something in there that
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coyotes love to love to den up there and
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you can get into them every every single
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year year in and year out if you you
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know hunt those right time periods
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yeah one one thing that I do and it's a
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pretty good tip for people that if
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they're not doing it
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before I start hunting you know during
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the summertime later summer I do a lot
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of locating prior to and you can locate
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you know
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early in from that March time frame once
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they get dented on their mind you start
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locating coats and Mark those places on
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onyx map or whatever mapping you know
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app you're using and if you keep up with
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that over the years I've been dropping
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points on a map for no telling how many
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years now and it's
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pretty amazing to go back pull those
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Maps up after all those years and see
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those clusters right of Mark Oaks and I
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hunt a lot of public grounds so I'll
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have access to big huge blocks that are
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just run forever and you'll get into
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places where there's not a over all
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these years I never dropped a point
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that that's that's just not holding
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codes and some of these other places
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will consistently hold coach year after
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year after year they'll they will raise
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pups there they'll then there and it
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just consistently holds coats every year
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and those are the places that usually
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when I start out especially if I'm in a
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hurry or something like that I'm going
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to go right to those places and they
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don't all produce year after year but a
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lot of them will produce and you know if
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you hit those places
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consistently year after year you can
0:11:10.740,0:11:14.100
typically stay on coyotes and have
0:11:12.660,0:11:16.560
success
0:11:14.100,0:11:19.019
on follow-up years in places that you
0:11:16.560,0:11:21.300
had success before yeah yeah that's good
0:11:19.019,0:11:23.339
stuff Tori and like I said I've I've
0:11:21.300,0:11:25.019
experienced a similar stuff before in
0:11:23.339,0:11:28.140
the past you know and I've got
0:11:25.019,0:11:30.300
particular Farms particular pieces of
0:11:28.140,0:11:32.399
ground whatever they are that uh maybe
0:11:30.300,0:11:34.260
some that I don't hunt through the
0:11:32.399,0:11:36.000
spring and summer months because coyotes
0:11:34.260,0:11:37.440
don't din there but you might be able to
0:11:36.000,0:11:39.240
go back and hit those spots in the fall
0:11:37.440,0:11:40.740
and winter and and kill you a double or
0:11:39.240,0:11:42.720
two you know throughout the fall and
0:11:40.740,0:11:44.279
winter but uh for whatever reason it
0:11:42.720,0:11:46.260
doesn't actually hold coyotes through
0:11:44.279,0:11:48.959
the summer spring and summer months when
0:11:46.260,0:11:49.920
you know when they would be dinning so
0:11:48.959,0:11:52.019
to speak
0:11:49.920,0:11:54.899
yeah yeah
0:11:52.019,0:11:57.360
and another thing it makes we mentioned
0:11:54.899,0:12:00.060
locating one thing that makes March and
0:11:57.360,0:12:01.860
and anytime they start dinner so
0:12:00.060,0:12:03.240
basically from March until those pups
0:12:01.860,0:12:06.540
come out of the hole
0:12:03.240,0:12:08.880
people tend to see a loyal in howling
0:12:06.540,0:12:11.339
action you know just vocal coats period
0:12:08.880,0:12:14.399
night or day they tend to start shutting
0:12:11.339,0:12:16.320
down vocally as those dens you know as
0:12:14.399,0:12:18.600
they start digging those dins pretty
0:12:16.320,0:12:20.640
much during the month of March and until
0:12:18.600,0:12:23.100
those clubs come out of the hole people
0:12:20.640,0:12:24.779
need to keep in mind that it may be
0:12:23.100,0:12:28.200
difficult to uh
0:12:24.779,0:12:30.380
to hear cows so so they're saying this
0:12:28.200,0:12:33.000
time of year you know going into March
0:12:30.380,0:12:34.980
it's still a good idea to try to locate
0:12:33.000,0:12:37.079
but don't expect to hear a lot of
0:12:34.980,0:12:39.120
howling is what you're saying
0:12:37.079,0:12:40.320
if it can be frustrating locating
0:12:39.120,0:12:41.940
because
0:12:40.320,0:12:45.240
a lot of times there's not a lot of
0:12:41.940,0:12:46.920
vocal action but right if you can get a
0:12:45.240,0:12:48.480
pair of coats and that's what I'm
0:12:46.920,0:12:50.760
listening for I'm listening for a pair
0:12:48.480,0:12:52.800
if you can get and usually you're pretty
0:12:50.760,0:12:55.519
close to them if they'll vocalize if you
0:12:52.800,0:12:59.160
can get a pair of coats to vocalize
0:12:55.519,0:13:00.660
March or after then you can pretty much
0:12:59.160,0:13:03.300
go right in there where you heard them
0:13:00.660,0:13:05.279
at and it's real high odds of calling
0:13:03.300,0:13:07.079
those coyotes up right it's you might
0:13:05.279,0:13:09.779
have to do a lot of if you're trying to
0:13:07.079,0:13:11.940
locate you might have to do a lot of it
0:13:09.779,0:13:14.279
to find or get close enough to get some
0:13:11.940,0:13:16.200
to uh to vocalize and they usually
0:13:14.279,0:13:17.579
pretty aggressive with it too right
0:13:16.200,0:13:19.860
right
0:13:17.579,0:13:22.019
but man the call-ups are usually if you
0:13:19.860,0:13:23.880
can find it the call-ups are usually
0:13:22.019,0:13:25.620
really quick go in there in a little bit
0:13:23.880,0:13:28.620
of I know we hadn't got into the sounds
0:13:25.620,0:13:31.920
to use yet but get in there and
0:13:28.620,0:13:34.380
a little bit of that uh young pup stuff
0:13:31.920,0:13:36.120
or some house or a combination of the
0:13:34.380,0:13:38.760
two that's usually all it takes they'll
0:13:36.120,0:13:40.200
run over you right right that's uh it
0:13:38.760,0:13:42.300
just got me to thinking of course this
0:13:40.200,0:13:44.820
is kind of backing up two or three weeks
0:13:42.300,0:13:46.500
but uh when we were in Texas with Chris
0:13:44.820,0:13:48.540
you know it just made me think about
0:13:46.500,0:13:50.220
that hunt because we would run you know
0:13:48.540,0:13:52.920
we caught a lot of stuff in on prey
0:13:50.220,0:13:54.959
distress but we would quickly switch
0:13:52.920,0:13:56.579
into our coyote vocals and the stands
0:13:54.959,0:13:58.500
where nothing did show up to pray you
0:13:56.579,0:14:00.120
know we get to howling and all that I
0:13:58.500,0:14:02.339
don't think we had like two stands we
0:14:00.120,0:14:04.260
actually heard coyotes how back
0:14:02.339,0:14:07.440
right if you remember that that second
0:14:04.260,0:14:09.060
triple we had coyotes how back at us and
0:14:07.440,0:14:11.339
then that uh stand you were talking
0:14:09.060,0:14:13.200
about where we had that big old woolly
0:14:11.339,0:14:14.760
male that was real close to us it had us
0:14:13.200,0:14:16.500
kind of locked down we actually had a
0:14:14.760,0:14:19.440
group of two or three coyotes just 100
0:14:16.500,0:14:20.700
yards past him lit up and uh yeah I
0:14:19.440,0:14:22.380
think it's on time two times with her
0:14:20.700,0:14:25.320
coyote towel on the whole trip
0:14:22.380,0:14:27.300
that's all I remember and that's uh and
0:14:25.320,0:14:29.519
and you was asking me what my couch are
0:14:27.300,0:14:32.100
doing they're still howling some but not
0:14:29.519,0:14:34.560
near as much as they were yeah so it's
0:14:32.100,0:14:36.360
starting to taper off some the the vocal
0:14:34.560,0:14:37.980
stuff they're still howling right now
0:14:36.360,0:14:39.120
because we're in that transition period
0:14:37.980,0:14:41.699
you know
0:14:39.120,0:14:44.459
uh from breeding into dinner but when
0:14:41.699,0:14:47.100
they go in and start getting and get you
0:14:44.459,0:14:49.740
know in the ground that vocal stuff
0:14:47.100,0:14:52.079
really shuts down okay well since we're
0:14:49.740,0:14:55.320
talking about that type of stuff what
0:14:52.079,0:14:56.880
what type of sounds do coyote collars
0:14:55.320,0:14:59.880
need to start paying more attention to
0:14:56.880,0:15:02.760
going into March and and calling
0:14:59.880,0:15:05.639
throughout the month of March
0:15:02.760,0:15:08.160
for me once March hits I I pretty well
0:15:05.639,0:15:10.920
shut down on the prey distress I'm not
0:15:08.160,0:15:13.560
saying not to mix some in if you want to
0:15:10.920,0:15:15.360
but usually February telling February
0:15:13.560,0:15:17.880
that's usually shutting off for me as
0:15:15.360,0:15:20.279
far as Bobcats and stuff like that most
0:15:17.880,0:15:22.199
people have a season on them so once
0:15:20.279,0:15:23.940
that shuts off and bobcat and stuff like
0:15:22.199,0:15:25.560
that's not still on the table and get in
0:15:23.940,0:15:27.600
that March time frame
0:15:25.560,0:15:30.779
I usually swap right over to those
0:15:27.600,0:15:33.060
vocals and that's the time of the year
0:15:30.779,0:15:35.399
where my vocal stuff or my sequences
0:15:33.060,0:15:37.399
really shrink down you know if you
0:15:35.399,0:15:39.959
rewind just a little bit into that
0:15:37.399,0:15:42.720
January February winter fall type
0:15:39.959,0:15:45.120
calling the sequences get bigger and
0:15:42.720,0:15:46.920
longer start getting to that Denton time
0:15:45.120,0:15:49.440
frame march on
0:15:46.920,0:15:51.600
my sequences really shrink down to where
0:15:49.440,0:15:55.199
I'm I'm pretty much running nothing but
0:15:51.600,0:15:57.540
house and starting in March mostly
0:15:55.199,0:15:59.459
little puppy stuff you know that newborn
0:15:57.540,0:16:02.160
pup stuff even though the pups are not
0:15:59.459,0:16:03.959
born yet like I said they've got it on
0:16:02.160,0:16:06.240
their mind it's instinctual for them
0:16:03.959,0:16:08.699
once that female's bred
0:16:06.240,0:16:10.920
she's got it on her mind it is it's
0:16:08.699,0:16:12.839
instinctual and so does the the male
0:16:10.920,0:16:14.220
that's there just that group of breeding
0:16:12.839,0:16:16.980
goats however many of them are there
0:16:14.220,0:16:19.500
they've got it on their mind and so
0:16:16.980,0:16:21.120
right I try to flip in there and throw
0:16:19.500,0:16:22.920
out a couple of howls and follow that
0:16:21.120,0:16:25.139
right up with some of that little bitty
0:16:22.920,0:16:26.880
puppy stuff and I've talked about age
0:16:25.139,0:16:29.760
class of them anybody's familiar with
0:16:26.880,0:16:32.160
the library knows I age class them and
0:16:29.760,0:16:33.300
so I'll typically start out with uh you
0:16:32.160,0:16:35.699
know something in that newborn
0:16:33.300,0:16:38.160
especially for Mars some of that newborn
0:16:35.699,0:16:41.579
stuff like got milk or birthday pups
0:16:38.160,0:16:44.399
right any of that fresh little bitty
0:16:41.579,0:16:46.139
puppy stuff and now run that for a
0:16:44.399,0:16:47.759
couple minutes and nothing shows up I'll
0:16:46.139,0:16:49.620
swap to just a little bit older age
0:16:47.759,0:16:51.480
class you know I might skip two or three
0:16:49.620,0:16:54.120
weeks like go from newborn to a three
0:16:51.480,0:16:56.459
week three week to a six week somewhere
0:16:54.120,0:16:58.560
in that neighborhood and that's that's
0:16:56.459,0:17:01.139
about all I'm doing this time of the
0:16:58.560,0:17:03.360
year you can steal I'm always gonna
0:17:01.139,0:17:06.419
probably you know end with a fight or
0:17:03.360,0:17:09.120
something like that but I'm expecting my
0:17:06.419,0:17:10.740
call-ups to be quick on that on those
0:17:09.120,0:17:13.860
howls and on that little puppy stuff
0:17:10.740,0:17:17.040
right early in the stand well it um you
0:17:13.860,0:17:18.360
know I remember last March and first
0:17:17.040,0:17:20.880
part of April I did a little bit of
0:17:18.360,0:17:22.620
calling and and that's what I had luck
0:17:20.880,0:17:25.620
with you know I started out the the
0:17:22.620,0:17:27.419
stand with a set of hows
0:17:25.620,0:17:28.740
um just non-aggressive type stuff and
0:17:27.419,0:17:31.260
then I just go right in like you're
0:17:28.740,0:17:35.880
saying small puppy stuff uh stuff like
0:17:31.260,0:17:38.460
mfk broke pups uh Fox Pros K-9 puppies
0:17:35.880,0:17:40.500
too which is just small puppy sounds
0:17:38.460,0:17:42.299
which they sound just like coyote pups
0:17:40.500,0:17:45.660
and both those sounds worked really good
0:17:42.299,0:17:47.580
for us and and like you said they come
0:17:45.660,0:17:49.280
in pretty daggone quick can you see they
0:17:47.580,0:17:51.840
was pretty frantic when they came in
0:17:49.280,0:17:54.120
yeah pretty good you know it's something
0:17:51.840,0:17:56.580
interesting he was talking about uh
0:17:54.120,0:17:58.620
these coyotes starting to dig out dins
0:17:56.580,0:18:02.039
clean out dins and that type of stuff
0:17:58.620,0:18:05.400
one thing is it uh I was wanting to ask
0:18:02.039,0:18:07.140
you is it just breeding pairs that that
0:18:05.400,0:18:09.120
go along with that or is there like any
0:18:07.140,0:18:11.460
males that didn't match up with a mate
0:18:09.120,0:18:13.860
or females that that will participate in
0:18:11.460,0:18:15.480
that as well or is it just just the
0:18:13.860,0:18:18.299
breeding pairs that kind of participate
0:18:15.480,0:18:20.280
in that cleaning out of the dens that's
0:18:18.299,0:18:22.320
what's odd about it it seems like all
0:18:20.280,0:18:25.740
the coats instinctually get it on their
0:18:22.320,0:18:28.380
mind back that first batch of coats I
0:18:25.740,0:18:31.020
had which was that would have been
0:18:28.380,0:18:34.860
the ones most people know the best which
0:18:31.020,0:18:37.860
were ruse Mac Boone Jiggy
0:18:34.860,0:18:40.860
out of those coats smack at that time
0:18:37.860,0:18:43.200
that first year he was not he was not
0:18:40.860,0:18:44.100
paired up he was biting that he dug a
0:18:43.200,0:18:46.020
den
0:18:44.100,0:18:48.000
I mean he dug a hole I've actually got
0:18:46.020,0:18:50.039
video of him coming and going in and out
0:18:48.000,0:18:52.620
of that they didn't he didn't use it he
0:18:50.039,0:18:54.960
didn't stay in it like uh like people
0:18:52.620,0:18:58.140
think it was just that short period of
0:18:54.960,0:19:00.360
time where for whatever reason the same
0:18:58.140,0:19:01.799
time frame that the the breeding pairs
0:19:00.360,0:19:03.960
were digging holes these other Coats
0:19:01.799,0:19:05.640
were digging holes too and I don't know
0:19:03.960,0:19:08.780
it's like an inside I'm not going to say
0:19:05.640,0:19:08.780
that they all do it
0:19:10.700,0:19:16.500
and instinctually seem to do stuff like
0:19:14.340,0:19:19.919
that and just like they was preparing it
0:19:16.500,0:19:21.600
just right and and then they they just I
0:19:19.919,0:19:23.280
mean they'll dig them and spend a little
0:19:21.600,0:19:24.539
bit of time in them if at all a lot of
0:19:23.280,0:19:26.400
times they just dig them and they don't
0:19:24.539,0:19:28.740
use them at all
0:19:26.400,0:19:31.380
um he act like he used that just to get
0:19:28.740,0:19:33.840
cool you know right kind of like you see
0:19:31.380,0:19:36.660
a dog dig a hole you know dig a spot out
0:19:33.840,0:19:38.100
on the ground and lay in the cool dirt I
0:19:36.660,0:19:41.039
think that was part of why he would
0:19:38.100,0:19:42.419
actually go in that Holy dug song when I
0:19:41.039,0:19:44.820
say dug a hole I'm talking about Doug
0:19:42.419,0:19:47.640
hole deep enough he would disappear in
0:19:44.820,0:19:50.820
it when he would go in it but uh yeah
0:19:47.640,0:19:53.340
they will they will Instinct even coach
0:19:50.820,0:19:57.140
not participating in breeding that are
0:19:53.340,0:19:57.140
not part of the pair will
0:19:57.320,0:20:03.419
they're cool animals ain't they oh it's
0:20:01.200,0:20:05.640
amazing that some of the stuff I've I've
0:20:03.419,0:20:07.620
got to watch them do you know it kind of
0:20:05.640,0:20:09.900
reminds me almost I'm kind of humanizing
0:20:07.620,0:20:12.660
them here but uh you know I've had a
0:20:09.900,0:20:15.600
couple youngins me and my wife and you
0:20:12.660,0:20:18.660
know when she uh they're grown now but
0:20:15.600,0:20:22.140
yeah I'm old but anyway when you know
0:20:18.660,0:20:24.720
later stages of the pregnancy my wife
0:20:22.140,0:20:27.299
Crystal I guess what they call nesting
0:20:24.720,0:20:29.160
you know she she started preparing their
0:20:27.299,0:20:31.679
bedroom you know I guess it's about the
0:20:29.160,0:20:34.919
same as a child's fixing these insights
0:20:31.679,0:20:37.320
up you know it was you wasn't gonna stop
0:20:34.919,0:20:39.059
it Crystal was going to be she was
0:20:37.320,0:20:41.340
hanging stuff on the wall she was
0:20:39.059,0:20:43.980
getting the cribs ready and you know the
0:20:41.340,0:20:45.660
baby was still still weeks out but uh
0:20:43.980,0:20:47.700
she knew it was coming and she was gonna
0:20:45.660,0:20:50.340
have things ready by golly
0:20:47.700,0:20:52.200
oh there's no doubt that the humans and
0:20:50.340,0:20:56.480
all animals included there's there's
0:20:52.200,0:20:58.980
some instinctual stuff that is
0:20:56.480,0:21:00.480
the mind has nothing to do with it's
0:20:58.980,0:21:03.240
just instinctual you don't even have to
0:21:00.480,0:21:05.520
think about it it's automatic and I
0:21:03.240,0:21:07.320
think that's a example of it on the on
0:21:05.520,0:21:09.780
the Human Side
0:21:07.320,0:21:11.760
School cool creators that's for sure so
0:21:09.780,0:21:12.960
we talked about uh we started talking
0:21:11.760,0:21:15.240
about sounds there a little bit we
0:21:12.960,0:21:17.160
mentioned the coyote locals what about
0:21:15.240,0:21:18.840
prey distressed sounds I know you said
0:21:17.160,0:21:21.780
you don't run much of it but you might
0:21:18.840,0:21:24.240
mix some in is it a good idea especially
0:21:21.780,0:21:26.039
these these guys that have to Circle
0:21:24.240,0:21:28.020
back around on his ground the ground and
0:21:26.039,0:21:29.280
Tafe hunted summer time they've hunted
0:21:28.020,0:21:31.679
in the fall they've hit it a couple
0:21:29.280,0:21:33.419
times during the winter is it pretty
0:21:31.679,0:21:35.220
smart for them if they are going to run
0:21:33.419,0:21:37.320
some type of prey distress think about
0:21:35.220,0:21:38.700
running stuff that they haven't burned
0:21:37.320,0:21:40.860
their ears up on throughout the year
0:21:38.700,0:21:43.320
maybe running they if they like running
0:21:40.860,0:21:46.740
rabbit try some of these bird sounds or
0:21:43.320,0:21:48.600
or fox sounds or anything like that
0:21:46.740,0:21:50.460
yeah especially if they're not having
0:21:48.600,0:21:51.539
collar I guess the probably the best
0:21:50.460,0:21:53.400
thing
0:21:51.539,0:21:55.080
or the best advice I could give somebody
0:21:53.400,0:21:56.820
if you if they've been calling all
0:21:55.080,0:21:58.620
winter long and they've called the month
0:21:56.820,0:22:00.659
of February and we're going into March
0:21:58.620,0:22:03.299
don't take what we're saying we're going
0:22:00.659,0:22:05.039
to house and pump stuff right then is
0:22:03.299,0:22:07.320
they need to make a switch if you're
0:22:05.039,0:22:09.539
calling up coyotes on whatever sequence
0:22:07.320,0:22:11.940
you're running I'd keep on running that
0:22:09.539,0:22:14.640
and then when you see that you know see
0:22:11.940,0:22:17.159
that shut off or you're not having as
0:22:14.640,0:22:18.900
many call-ups start going to that to
0:22:17.159,0:22:21.720
those house and that little pup stuff
0:22:18.900,0:22:23.159
and then if that starts working for you
0:22:21.720,0:22:26.400
that's what I'd stick with but if you're
0:22:23.159,0:22:28.260
not having call-ups you know I would run
0:22:26.400,0:22:30.299
I would mix some of that price stuff in
0:22:28.260,0:22:31.500
and if you're calling stuff that you've
0:22:30.299,0:22:34.200
called before
0:22:31.500,0:22:36.480
maybe do some of the the Prejudice stuff
0:22:34.200,0:22:38.039
that you hadn't I do run I said I don't
0:22:36.480,0:22:42.299
run much prey distress
0:22:38.039,0:22:45.240
I need to take that back I do run uh
0:22:42.299,0:22:46.140
some Bond stress uh here and there when
0:22:45.240,0:22:48.480
uh
0:22:46.140,0:22:50.159
when I'm calling spring summer uh I
0:22:48.480,0:22:52.080
don't do a lot of it but I do mix in
0:22:50.159,0:22:55.679
some Bond stress call up a lot of stuff
0:22:52.080,0:22:57.059
on it and uh I also run I like to run a
0:22:55.679,0:23:00.419
little bit of cone stress especially
0:22:57.059,0:23:02.159
that little cone stuff yep I will
0:23:00.419,0:23:03.659
occasionally mix something like that in
0:23:02.159,0:23:06.000
but
0:23:03.659,0:23:06.980
you know if people are transitioning
0:23:06.000,0:23:09.600
from
0:23:06.980,0:23:11.760
breeding into Denton time frame which is
0:23:09.600,0:23:13.860
kind of what we're talking about I would
0:23:11.760,0:23:14.640
continue to run those sequences that are
0:23:13.860,0:23:17.640
working
0:23:14.640,0:23:19.620
and in you know on into March and then
0:23:17.640,0:23:22.200
as they taper off that's when I'd start
0:23:19.620,0:23:23.580
making changes you know go start adding
0:23:22.200,0:23:25.799
that little bitty pup stuff in there
0:23:23.580,0:23:28.080
change the prey distress sounds if
0:23:25.799,0:23:29.460
you're still going to run them and you
0:23:28.080,0:23:32.220
know just
0:23:29.460,0:23:33.900
you have to find what you know what's
0:23:32.220,0:23:35.700
going to produce for you right yeah if
0:23:33.900,0:23:37.500
you've been calling and you've hit a dry
0:23:35.700,0:23:39.360
spell and you think you're on coyotes
0:23:37.500,0:23:42.000
and they ain't coming you want to play
0:23:39.360,0:23:43.919
some different sounds you know if it's
0:23:42.000,0:23:46.320
just plain and simple you mentioned the
0:23:43.919,0:23:48.480
cone or Jeff Ryder is going to kill me
0:23:46.320,0:23:50.220
he listens to this but that's one of
0:23:48.480,0:23:52.140
Jeff's Secrets there's always secret
0:23:50.220,0:23:53.720
weapons if stuff Ain't Coming summary
0:23:52.140,0:23:57.299
he'll switch over to some [ __ ] sounds
0:23:53.720,0:23:59.539
[ __ ] fights he'll mix uh a [ __ ] fight
0:23:57.299,0:24:02.520
with a pup distress he'll play Just
0:23:59.539,0:24:04.679
smaller raccoon distresses from the
0:24:02.520,0:24:06.240
Foxpro Library there and he'll start
0:24:04.679,0:24:07.860
killing coyotes I don't know what he but
0:24:06.240,0:24:09.960
he can he can switch over to cook when
0:24:07.860,0:24:11.760
nothing's calling he'll switch over
0:24:09.960,0:24:14.520
those raccoon sounds and start calling
0:24:11.760,0:24:15.840
killing coyotes it's crazy which I I
0:24:14.520,0:24:17.760
tried I don't ever have much luck with
0:24:15.840,0:24:18.960
it but it sure is one of his secret
0:24:17.760,0:24:21.720
weapons
0:24:18.960,0:24:23.400
I do a lot of cone calling it's it's fun
0:24:21.720,0:24:25.860
I mean I've got a lot of footage I need
0:24:23.400,0:24:28.860
to put out on that but what got me to
0:24:25.860,0:24:31.860
really using [ __ ] distress is [ __ ]
0:24:28.860,0:24:34.559
calling we would go out targeting cones
0:24:31.860,0:24:36.780
and call in these coyotes really really
0:24:34.559,0:24:37.919
and it started happening started
0:24:36.780,0:24:39.900
happening
0:24:37.919,0:24:41.340
barely off and often enough that I
0:24:39.900,0:24:44.760
realized I ought to be running some of
0:24:41.340,0:24:46.679
that and I've called in a lot of not
0:24:44.760,0:24:49.559
just coyotes but Bobcats too I think
0:24:46.679,0:24:51.059
I've told you before my best morning of
0:24:49.559,0:24:52.799
bobcat calling
0:24:51.059,0:24:55.620
I think it was me and Kerry when we
0:24:52.799,0:24:58.020
called in six cats before lunch just
0:24:55.620,0:25:00.600
right here around my house and we called
0:24:58.020,0:25:02.340
in every one of those cats except one on
0:25:00.600,0:25:04.500
kunda street it's called one end on
0:25:02.340,0:25:06.900
rabbit on a diaphragm that's actually on
0:25:04.500,0:25:08.820
one of the mfk videos and some of the
0:25:06.900,0:25:10.980
some of the ones that we've called in on
0:25:08.820,0:25:12.659
[ __ ] distress and this is not starting
0:25:10.980,0:25:15.120
with cone distress this is running
0:25:12.659,0:25:17.159
through birds and rabbits and other
0:25:15.120,0:25:19.620
sounds and then swapping over to a [ __ ]
0:25:17.159,0:25:23.220
and having a cat or a couch so that's
0:25:19.620,0:25:25.020
when they come in yeah yeah and I ski we
0:25:23.220,0:25:27.840
killed one Bobcat that morning that was
0:25:25.020,0:25:29.340
a big pretty cat and I was just gonna I
0:25:27.840,0:25:32.279
did texting them years ago so I was
0:25:29.340,0:25:33.960
gonna save the skin and uh just flat uh
0:25:32.279,0:25:35.279
skin it my wife or use some of that
0:25:33.960,0:25:38.220
stuff for
0:25:35.279,0:25:40.440
you know a rogue or whatever so anyway
0:25:38.220,0:25:44.760
let's get this thing out and it was a
0:25:40.440,0:25:46.740
big old fat bobcat and anyway I noticed
0:25:44.760,0:25:49.200
he was slammed full of something so
0:25:46.740,0:25:51.120
after I skinned him I cut him open that
0:25:49.200,0:25:53.880
thing had a whole cone in him I mean it
0:25:51.120,0:25:57.779
died just enough but it was just his his
0:25:53.880,0:26:00.779
gut was just slammed full of [ __ ] hair
0:25:57.779,0:26:03.240
and meat wow just mad at it but yeah
0:26:00.779,0:26:05.640
that thing was and so I thought it was
0:26:03.240,0:26:07.620
odd we called up on them except that one
0:26:05.640,0:26:09.600
on [ __ ] and then cut that one open he
0:26:07.620,0:26:11.779
had a [ __ ] in him I said well there you
0:26:09.600,0:26:14.100
go there you go
0:26:11.779,0:26:16.320
they like to snack on them occasionally
0:26:14.100,0:26:18.480
anyway that's uh that's that's pretty
0:26:16.320,0:26:20.100
that's pretty interesting I and I think
0:26:18.480,0:26:21.779
I've heard was talking about Jeff I
0:26:20.100,0:26:24.000
think I've heard him talk about calling
0:26:21.779,0:26:26.039
in cats to on [ __ ] sounds as well but of
0:26:24.000,0:26:28.620
course I never have
0:26:26.039,0:26:30.720
um one sound that I have had luck with
0:26:28.620,0:26:32.220
that uh I don't know if you can call it
0:26:30.720,0:26:33.600
a prey distress sound it's definitely
0:26:32.220,0:26:34.620
not a coyote vocal and I don't know
0:26:33.600,0:26:36.059
really if you can call it a prey
0:26:34.620,0:26:38.100
distress sound but
0:26:36.059,0:26:40.320
there was one March coyote stand that I
0:26:38.100,0:26:43.320
remember from two years ago it's hunting
0:26:40.320,0:26:47.279
on uh Farm just down the road here
0:26:43.320,0:26:48.600
Hometown place I had usually killed six
0:26:47.279,0:26:50.100
or eight coyotes off his place
0:26:48.600,0:26:51.840
throughout the year and I hadn't really
0:26:50.100,0:26:53.880
done much Colin on it that year I think
0:26:51.840,0:26:55.500
I just killed uh maybe a double on a
0:26:53.880,0:26:57.480
single and that was it
0:26:55.500,0:27:00.240
I went and set up on this particular
0:26:57.480,0:27:02.460
head of a holler howled and actually had
0:27:00.240,0:27:03.960
a coyote howl back at me I mean just
0:27:02.460,0:27:05.159
right off the bat just mad it's probably
0:27:03.960,0:27:06.419
one of those situations like you're
0:27:05.159,0:27:08.580
talking about
0:27:06.419,0:27:09.960
you know a coyote That Was preparing a
0:27:08.580,0:27:12.419
den because it is a spot I will
0:27:09.960,0:27:14.400
summertime call well I run through all
0:27:12.419,0:27:17.580
kinds of stuff coyote never did come out
0:27:14.400,0:27:20.100
and it's coyote had not 150 200 yards
0:27:17.580,0:27:22.799
away so I knew it was close I run
0:27:20.100,0:27:24.779
through pups I played rabbits I did I
0:27:22.799,0:27:27.600
said well I said I booger this spot up
0:27:24.779,0:27:28.980
he's he's circled downwind or I played
0:27:27.600,0:27:32.100
something that boogered him or something
0:27:28.980,0:27:34.320
and just on a whim I played Fox Pros
0:27:32.100,0:27:37.440
Platinum gray fox
0:27:34.320,0:27:39.960
I knew I knew you were going to gray fox
0:27:37.440,0:27:42.960
before you told the story but as soon as
0:27:39.960,0:27:45.840
I hit it that sucker come burning in
0:27:42.960,0:27:47.700
man like you've been craving a fox for
0:27:45.840,0:27:50.400
two years and then had to put his lips
0:27:47.700,0:27:53.220
on one and man he I shot him right on
0:27:50.400,0:27:54.799
top of the x24 Platinum gray fox after
0:27:53.220,0:27:58.080
running through
0:27:54.799,0:28:00.659
canine puppies too coyote pup three one
0:27:58.080,0:28:02.279
four and no telling what else and a
0:28:00.659,0:28:04.320
couple rabbits and hit Platinum grade
0:28:02.279,0:28:05.580
and here you come burning out there and
0:28:04.320,0:28:07.020
I'm talking about a long stand it was
0:28:05.580,0:28:09.299
probably like on the 17 or 18 minute
0:28:07.020,0:28:12.059
Mark 20 minute Mark maybe just you know
0:28:09.299,0:28:16.140
last ditch effort give up on him
0:28:12.059,0:28:18.840
yeah great boxing cone distress or two
0:28:16.140,0:28:21.480
of those overlooked sounds that I would
0:28:18.840,0:28:23.100
consider prey sounds uh and they're just
0:28:21.480,0:28:24.720
overlooked they work really really good
0:28:23.100,0:28:27.240
something that
0:28:24.720,0:28:29.340
a lot of people don't know before I ever
0:28:27.240,0:28:31.320
started building diaphragms before I
0:28:29.340,0:28:35.520
ever blew a hand call any of that kind
0:28:31.320,0:28:39.000
of stuff to any degree I had my I had a
0:28:35.520,0:28:40.559
Foxpro fx3 I've still got it and uh
0:28:39.000,0:28:41.760
matter of fact I've got every call that
0:28:40.559,0:28:43.440
I've ever bought I've never sold
0:28:41.760,0:28:48.059
anything but anyway I've still got that
0:28:43.440,0:28:50.940
old fx3 and I played one sound on every
0:28:48.059,0:28:52.919
stand for about 15 minutes and if I
0:28:50.940,0:28:55.020
didn't call something up we'd move on
0:28:52.919,0:28:56.340
and uh me and Dave there's some old
0:28:55.020,0:28:59.520
pictures and stuff back from pressure
0:28:56.340,0:29:04.559
Masters days that very earliest time
0:28:59.520,0:29:07.320
frame and we would have cats box coats
0:29:04.559,0:29:09.120
they were all called up on Gray Fox
0:29:07.320,0:29:10.679
every one of them were called in that's
0:29:09.120,0:29:12.960
the only sound I would play only thing I
0:29:10.679,0:29:15.179
call anything up on and a lot of it was
0:29:12.960,0:29:17.880
because I wasn't giving you we were
0:29:15.179,0:29:20.100
calling at that time I could turn on
0:29:17.880,0:29:22.559
Gray Fox and I was running just the
0:29:20.100,0:29:24.419
regular old gray Fox distress box Pro
0:29:22.559,0:29:26.580
Gray Fox distress was a sound I was
0:29:24.419,0:29:28.860
running through right and
0:29:26.580,0:29:31.260
we had so many gray fox here at the time
0:29:28.860,0:29:32.820
but I could pull up anywhere and turn
0:29:31.260,0:29:36.419
that on we'd kill two or three blocks
0:29:32.820,0:29:38.399
right and so I just got to where you
0:29:36.419,0:29:40.200
know early on calling that's what you
0:29:38.399,0:29:42.179
was playing I wanted something to show
0:29:40.200,0:29:44.100
up and sometimes it wasn't a fox that
0:29:42.179,0:29:46.020
showed up it'd be a cat or a coat that
0:29:44.100,0:29:48.000
would come into that great box sound
0:29:46.020,0:29:50.279
ain't it wow
0:29:48.000,0:29:52.200
yeah and I kept that in mind after I
0:29:50.279,0:29:54.960
started you know getting more focused on
0:29:52.200,0:29:57.659
coats and started you know howling and
0:29:54.960,0:30:00.299
doing the diaphragm stuff and all of
0:29:57.659,0:30:02.460
that and started calling in some coyotes
0:30:00.299,0:30:04.860
I kept that gray fox you know kind of in
0:30:02.460,0:30:07.440
my in my back pocket and I would play it
0:30:04.860,0:30:09.840
occasionally uh I got a video coming up
0:30:07.440,0:30:11.880
sometime or another where similar
0:30:09.840,0:30:13.919
situation what you're talking about Greg
0:30:11.880,0:30:16.559
is calling calling calling in Tennessee
0:30:13.919,0:30:19.380
can't call anything in swaps over to
0:30:16.559,0:30:21.240
Super gray cow comes tearing in you know
0:30:19.380,0:30:22.080
the thing been listening right yeah I've
0:30:21.240,0:30:23.399
been sitting there hearing everything
0:30:22.080,0:30:25.440
you played
0:30:23.399,0:30:27.419
yeah just like what you're talking about
0:30:25.440,0:30:28.799
so that going back to what we were
0:30:27.419,0:30:31.020
talking about for March calling or
0:30:28.799,0:30:33.659
anytime you know some of that stuff
0:30:31.020,0:30:35.820
people have been hammering it it's not a
0:30:33.659,0:30:37.080
bad idea to mix sounds like that in to
0:30:35.820,0:30:38.220
see
0:30:37.080,0:30:39.779
um it's definitely not gonna hurt
0:30:38.220,0:30:42.779
anything and it might make a difference
0:30:39.779,0:30:45.539
in calling something up or blanket man
0:30:42.779,0:30:47.460
and ain't that I mean if you're if like
0:30:45.539,0:30:49.440
I said you know I'm I'm a type of guy
0:30:47.460,0:30:51.840
the way I hunt I have got to circle
0:30:49.440,0:30:53.640
around and hit spots a few times
0:30:51.840,0:30:56.059
throughout the year Well if you keep
0:30:53.640,0:30:58.080
going this spot and you keep willing out
0:30:56.059,0:31:00.360
cagey Cottontail
0:30:58.080,0:31:02.220
and you don't never call nothing into it
0:31:00.360,0:31:03.600
on that place that year it's time for
0:31:02.220,0:31:05.399
you to try something different whether
0:31:03.600,0:31:08.520
it's another rabbit sound where there's
0:31:05.399,0:31:11.100
some bird sounds or something like a
0:31:08.520,0:31:13.080
[ __ ] distress or a platinum gray or
0:31:11.100,0:31:14.580
super gray or something like that pour
0:31:13.080,0:31:15.960
it to them see what happens I mean well
0:31:14.580,0:31:17.580
you got to lose you ain't called nothing
0:31:15.960,0:31:19.740
up on the other sound that you've been
0:31:17.580,0:31:20.820
trying for a month you might as well try
0:31:19.740,0:31:22.500
something different
0:31:20.820,0:31:24.600
yeah when you're going back to ground
0:31:22.500,0:31:26.880
especially when you know there are coats
0:31:24.600,0:31:29.220
there and you're not calling stuff up
0:31:26.880,0:31:30.960
one of two things is wrong either you're
0:31:29.220,0:31:33.360
setting up wrong and you need to move
0:31:30.960,0:31:35.640
that or you're playing the wrong sounds
0:31:33.360,0:31:38.700
sometimes it's both so you need to
0:31:35.640,0:31:40.620
change some of that and you should be
0:31:38.700,0:31:41.940
able if there are coats on a place you
0:31:40.620,0:31:43.980
should be able to call them up with
0:31:41.940,0:31:46.679
something uh I'm not saying they're all
0:31:43.980,0:31:48.059
gonna come every time but y'all to be
0:31:46.679,0:31:49.980
able to have success if you know there
0:31:48.059,0:31:53.159
are guys there listening
0:31:49.980,0:31:55.140
good stuff good stuff on Tori well would
0:31:53.159,0:31:56.880
you share a sound see what you pretty
0:31:55.140,0:31:59.100
much did earlier but let's let's lay it
0:31:56.880,0:32:01.080
out there for how many minutes you do
0:31:59.100,0:32:03.299
this what you start with go to this
0:32:01.080,0:32:05.760
breaks or whatever share a sound
0:32:03.299,0:32:08.820
sequence with us that it is it
0:32:05.760,0:32:10.860
historically works during the march time
0:32:08.820,0:32:13.440
frame for coyote Colin
0:32:10.860,0:32:16.140
so I'll take this as though the breeding
0:32:13.440,0:32:19.620
stuff has shut off and we're strictly
0:32:16.140,0:32:22.320
targeting Denton coats yep if I go into
0:32:19.620,0:32:24.480
a spot and anytime I'm calling during
0:32:22.320,0:32:26.520
that March then I'm I'm calling a spot
0:32:24.480,0:32:29.159
that I know couch there I'm not doing
0:32:26.520,0:32:31.320
Blind calling during March because it's
0:32:29.159,0:32:33.000
already a tough time so I just I'm not
0:32:31.320,0:32:34.919
saying you can't do it but I'm not doing
0:32:33.000,0:32:37.020
much blind calling I'm going to know
0:32:34.919,0:32:38.760
their culture there either because
0:32:37.020,0:32:42.299
somebody's been seeing them I've heard
0:32:38.760,0:32:43.559
them or something and uh so when I'm
0:32:42.299,0:32:45.059
first thing I'm gonna do is slip in
0:32:43.559,0:32:49.200
there pretty tight to them I'm going to
0:32:45.059,0:32:50.700
try to get uh as tight as I if I'm
0:32:49.200,0:32:52.559
daytime calling I'm gonna try to figure
0:32:50.700,0:32:54.240
out where I think your holed up you know
0:32:52.559,0:32:56.760
we're we're them coach bedding and
0:32:54.240,0:32:58.799
spending their their daytime activities
0:32:56.760,0:33:01.080
and I'm gonna crowd that pretty tight
0:32:58.799,0:33:02.700
right off the bat right and then as far
0:33:01.080,0:33:04.679
as the sequence goes
0:33:02.700,0:33:07.020
I'm going to open up with some kind of
0:33:04.679,0:33:10.020
loan how uh and you can just pick any
0:33:07.020,0:33:12.320
one of I would open up with something
0:33:10.020,0:33:14.820
like uh
0:33:12.320,0:33:17.100
just any one of them boom long wine
0:33:14.820,0:33:20.760
house that's a popular one uh smack
0:33:17.100,0:33:22.919
bottomland house uh Rue lone house any
0:33:20.760,0:33:24.779
of them bougie homesick house one of my
0:33:22.919,0:33:26.760
favorites uh
0:33:24.779,0:33:28.799
I would open with one of those lone
0:33:26.760,0:33:31.380
house and
0:33:28.799,0:33:33.720
if I didn't get a response I'd answer
0:33:31.380,0:33:34.559
with another long Hal a minute or two
0:33:33.720,0:33:38.039
later
0:33:34.559,0:33:40.200
and from there I hope I get some kind of
0:33:38.039,0:33:42.500
response but if I don't then I'll
0:33:40.200,0:33:44.640
typically fall right into
0:33:42.500,0:33:46.440
sometimes I'll go ahead and run a group
0:33:44.640,0:33:48.960
pal in there but early in the March time
0:33:46.440,0:33:50.940
frame I'm I probably won't I'll just go
0:33:48.960,0:33:54.299
with those couple lone housing and I'll
0:33:50.940,0:33:56.820
fall right into that little pup stuff
0:33:54.299,0:33:58.860
and after I do that second long Hal
0:33:56.820,0:34:00.960
I'll again I'll wait a minute or two
0:33:58.860,0:34:02.700
sometimes longer if I'm being pretty
0:34:00.960,0:34:04.559
patient I may wait three four five
0:34:02.700,0:34:07.200
minutes and then I'll fall right into
0:34:04.559,0:34:08.580
that little pup stuff and I'm going to
0:34:07.200,0:34:10.980
start with something
0:34:08.580,0:34:13.619
in the ground you know that birthday pup
0:34:10.980,0:34:15.780
got milk something where their eyes are
0:34:13.619,0:34:17.700
still probably closed and they're in the
0:34:15.780,0:34:19.919
hole just whimpering whining it's not
0:34:17.700,0:34:22.800
even a book distress it's more of a it's
0:34:19.919,0:34:24.300
more of a hungry pup whimper wine that's
0:34:22.800,0:34:26.099
what I'm going to start with
0:34:24.300,0:34:27.899
and I'll probably run that about three
0:34:26.099,0:34:30.659
minutes or so two and a half three four
0:34:27.899,0:34:33.720
minutes nothing you know I don't watch
0:34:30.659,0:34:36.960
my my watch but uh something in that
0:34:33.720,0:34:39.540
three minute range and then I'll swap to
0:34:36.960,0:34:42.240
a different pump distress
0:34:39.540,0:34:44.520
or pup sound and go to just a little bit
0:34:42.240,0:34:47.520
older age class so I'll jump you know to
0:34:44.520,0:34:49.800
a two or three week uh pup distress
0:34:47.520,0:34:52.020
after I've went from those hungry pub
0:34:49.800,0:34:53.580
sounds and run it for two or three
0:34:52.020,0:34:55.619
minutes and then I'll probably swap to
0:34:53.580,0:34:59.160
another one and I may end up going
0:34:55.619,0:35:01.140
through multiple uh
0:34:59.160,0:35:02.880
of those different age class pup
0:35:01.140,0:35:05.940
distressed Sounds playing them for two
0:35:02.880,0:35:09.060
to three minutes each before I swap to
0:35:05.940,0:35:11.520
another one and if nothing shows up on
0:35:09.060,0:35:13.920
that I'll go right to one of those uh
0:35:11.520,0:35:16.740
you know a pup fight or one of the adult
0:35:13.920,0:35:18.060
fights downtown's always a good one to
0:35:16.740,0:35:18.720
end with
0:35:18.060,0:35:20.820
um
0:35:18.720,0:35:24.900
and then that's about it that's pretty
0:35:20.820,0:35:28.200
much all I'm gonna do right so pretty
0:35:24.900,0:35:30.680
much the the meat of it is pretty much
0:35:28.200,0:35:34.500
running through a series of pup sounds
0:35:30.680,0:35:36.900
starting baby baby pups eyes closed
0:35:34.500,0:35:38.820
stuff and kind of graduating up and a
0:35:36.900,0:35:40.440
little bit different age class for
0:35:38.820,0:35:42.660
several sounds just to see if you can't
0:35:40.440,0:35:43.740
get something to trigger on one of them
0:35:42.660,0:35:46.800
yep
0:35:43.740,0:35:49.680
yeah and if you want a mix this would be
0:35:46.800,0:35:52.140
optional for me sometimes I do it a lot
0:35:49.680,0:35:54.359
of times I don't do it would be mixing
0:35:52.140,0:35:57.300
in you know some of those some of those
0:35:54.359,0:35:59.460
prey sounds uh
0:35:57.300,0:36:01.500
occasionally when I think I'm right on
0:35:59.460,0:36:03.720
top of coats like I was talking about
0:36:01.500,0:36:05.520
crowding them I'll start with something
0:36:03.720,0:36:06.960
I don't do it very often but
0:36:05.520,0:36:08.460
occasionally if I think I'm right on top
0:36:06.960,0:36:10.520
of them I'll start with some of those
0:36:08.460,0:36:14.579
you know
0:36:10.520,0:36:17.040
smaller uh prey sounds like a wood rat
0:36:14.579,0:36:20.220
or Bowl squeaks or you know anything
0:36:17.040,0:36:23.119
like that gray squirrel some of that
0:36:20.220,0:36:26.540
you know more rodent type Registries yep
0:36:23.119,0:36:30.119
I may run that for two or three minutes
0:36:26.540,0:36:31.680
and then go into those vocals but most
0:36:30.119,0:36:33.780
of the time I'll I'll go right through
0:36:31.680,0:36:36.839
those right to a long Hal wait a couple
0:36:33.780,0:36:38.760
minutes answer with a long Hal wait two
0:36:36.839,0:36:40.800
three four minutes go right into that
0:36:38.760,0:36:42.420
little pups or stuff start with the
0:36:40.800,0:36:44.280
youngest you don't have to I don't think
0:36:42.420,0:36:46.440
the order makes that much difference I
0:36:44.280,0:36:49.079
just usually start with the youngest and
0:36:46.440,0:36:51.180
then build as I go right but I'll run
0:36:49.079,0:36:53.460
through however many of them
0:36:51.180,0:36:55.980
I want to go through I might run through
0:36:53.460,0:36:58.560
three or four and decide you know it
0:36:55.980,0:37:00.240
ain't happening or if I'm convinced I've
0:36:58.560,0:37:01.859
heard couch or I'm pretty sure they're
0:37:00.240,0:37:03.839
there then I may keep
0:37:01.859,0:37:06.000
keep after it until I've run through you
0:37:03.839,0:37:08.280
know six seven eight different upside
0:37:06.000,0:37:10.740
right right and then in one of those
0:37:08.280,0:37:13.680
fights for two three minutes
0:37:10.740,0:37:16.500
uh maybe a couple fights and then I'll
0:37:13.680,0:37:19.260
I'll move on my stands or not usually
0:37:16.500,0:37:21.839
not as long unless something house and
0:37:19.260,0:37:23.640
you know I know I'm working a code
0:37:21.839,0:37:26.940
I'm usually not going to be there as
0:37:23.640,0:37:28.440
long that time of the year because like
0:37:26.940,0:37:30.240
we talked about earlier you're probably
0:37:28.440,0:37:33.540
if you're going to call something up
0:37:30.240,0:37:34.859
you're probably close to it already and
0:37:33.540,0:37:36.540
it's not going to take them long to get
0:37:34.859,0:37:39.180
there so if you've been there you know
0:37:36.540,0:37:41.400
you get into that 12 plus minute Mark
0:37:39.180,0:37:43.280
that time of the year start thinking
0:37:41.400,0:37:46.740
about that next time
0:37:43.280,0:37:49.800
I do which is different than you know
0:37:46.740,0:37:51.540
it's it's odd that that March time is
0:37:49.800,0:37:54.060
such a transition because if you rewind
0:37:51.540,0:37:56.160
just a little bit I'll have stands in
0:37:54.060,0:37:59.579
January February that may go
0:37:56.160,0:38:01.260
man they may go 25 plus minutes right on
0:37:59.579,0:38:04.020
a regular basis right because I'm
0:38:01.260,0:38:06.180
running so many sounds and coyotes will
0:38:04.020,0:38:08.520
come from further away so right exactly
0:38:06.180,0:38:10.800
that makes sense totally makes sense
0:38:08.520,0:38:14.400
yeah well it's just a big difference
0:38:10.800,0:38:17.099
between when a code has
0:38:14.400,0:38:18.960
dinning on its mind it's a completely
0:38:17.099,0:38:21.839
different animal when you get Denim and
0:38:18.960,0:38:24.480
pups and that mindset that's a
0:38:21.839,0:38:27.180
completely different animal than a coat
0:38:24.480,0:38:29.820
that's thinking about breeding or
0:38:27.180,0:38:33.359
pairing or just surviving that's right
0:38:29.820,0:38:35.640
that's a big difference even though
0:38:33.359,0:38:37.140
they're those those time frames are
0:38:35.640,0:38:40.740
stacked right on top of each other right
0:38:37.140,0:38:42.900
onto the next yeah exactly and when do
0:38:40.740,0:38:44.880
when will we see that next transition
0:38:42.900,0:38:47.520
period in the coyote referring to the
0:38:44.880,0:38:49.079
behavior and how they be acting I know
0:38:47.520,0:38:51.540
that'll be when they actually have the
0:38:49.079,0:38:53.160
pups but when will we look to kind of
0:38:51.540,0:38:55.440
what's the time frame for that for
0:38:53.160,0:38:57.359
everybody to know
0:38:55.440,0:38:58.440
well your earliest born pups are
0:38:57.359,0:39:00.900
probably going to hit the ground till
0:38:58.440,0:39:04.079
end of March for the you know the bulk
0:39:00.900,0:39:05.880
of them the majority of them are we're
0:39:04.079,0:39:08.220
going to hit the ground I always use
0:39:05.880,0:39:10.700
April 10th as a as a pretty good marker
0:39:08.220,0:39:14.700
I think 70 of the pups will be born
0:39:10.700,0:39:16.859
within two or three weeks of April 10th
0:39:14.700,0:39:19.320
one side or the other but it'll screen
0:39:16.859,0:39:22.500
as you know from your
0:39:19.320,0:39:25.020
from your earliest born pups and
0:39:22.500,0:39:27.480
tail into march to your latest born pups
0:39:25.020,0:39:29.040
in May you know that would get you your
0:39:27.480,0:39:32.160
your
0:39:29.040,0:39:34.760
pops into ground time frame but I would
0:39:32.160,0:39:37.680
say that the next big transition
0:39:34.760,0:39:40.020
from March when they get dented on their
0:39:37.680,0:39:40.859
mind until those pups come out of the
0:39:40.020,0:39:43.920
ground
0:39:40.859,0:39:45.660
that's pretty much all the same type
0:39:43.920,0:39:47.820
deal even though they don't have pups
0:39:45.660,0:39:49.800
yet they're in that mindset and they'll
0:39:47.820,0:39:51.780
keep that mindset until the pups
0:39:49.800,0:39:53.339
actually get out of the ground and then
0:39:51.780,0:39:56.160
when the pups get out of the ground you
0:39:53.339,0:39:58.020
have a a really big swing because all of
0:39:56.160,0:40:00.060
a sudden you've got a whole lot more
0:39:58.020,0:40:02.400
codes you've got coats that are
0:40:00.060,0:40:04.680
extremely territorial yes and you can
0:40:02.400,0:40:06.000
have some of your some people don't like
0:40:04.680,0:40:08.520
to hunt summertime because it's hot
0:40:06.000,0:40:09.960
because there's pups whatever but I
0:40:08.520,0:40:12.180
think people are missing out if they
0:40:09.960,0:40:14.460
don't take advantage of just how I mean
0:40:12.180,0:40:16.859
I hunt college for fun I'm not keeping
0:40:14.460,0:40:19.440
their fur I'm not I'm hunting them for
0:40:16.859,0:40:21.540
fun and I don't I don't right try to
0:40:19.440,0:40:25.320
paint it any other way that's what I'm
0:40:21.540,0:40:28.079
doing and uh to me a code is is a coat
0:40:25.320,0:40:30.900
so that time frame when those pups get
0:40:28.079,0:40:33.780
out of the ground that can be
0:40:30.900,0:40:35.940
I mean that's just some of the the most
0:40:33.780,0:40:37.680
fun you can have Colin it's the most
0:40:35.940,0:40:39.359
aggressive the couch are going to be all
0:40:37.680,0:40:43.260
year long they usually screaming in your
0:40:39.359,0:40:46.740
face running in like Fast action man
0:40:43.260,0:40:48.740
it's vocal action in the daytime I mean
0:40:46.740,0:40:51.300
everything that
0:40:48.740,0:40:54.119
everything that you can ask for happens
0:40:51.300,0:40:56.220
that time of the year other than the
0:40:54.119,0:40:57.960
couch or not fluffy and pretty when you
0:40:56.220,0:41:01.220
get them on the ground right yeah they
0:40:57.960,0:41:04.380
can be pretty yeah they man yeah I know
0:41:01.220,0:41:07.560
full of ticks thin hair yeah they can
0:41:04.380,0:41:10.260
look pretty rough that's for sure
0:41:07.560,0:41:12.060
but I I think we can run that
0:41:10.260,0:41:14.099
you know the the sequence type stuff
0:41:12.060,0:41:16.020
that we're talking about
0:41:14.099,0:41:18.420
with those howls and that little pup
0:41:16.020,0:41:21.240
stuff and maybe ending with some fights
0:41:18.420,0:41:24.960
I think we can run that from March all
0:41:21.240,0:41:27.119
the way through until about
0:41:24.960,0:41:30.599
tail end of May and I would say that
0:41:27.119,0:41:32.640
then once June hits and those pups once
0:41:30.599,0:41:34.440
those pups start getting that three four
0:41:32.640,0:41:35.700
week old time frame and they're out of
0:41:34.440,0:41:37.859
the hole
0:41:35.700,0:41:40.800
then you can start adding that's when I
0:41:37.859,0:41:42.839
start adding to the sequence so I start
0:41:40.800,0:41:45.839
adding some of those those pull-ups get
0:41:42.839,0:41:47.280
three weeks old they start fighting I
0:41:45.839,0:41:49.619
know a lot of people think man that's
0:41:47.280,0:41:51.420
that's awfully young three weeks old
0:41:49.619,0:41:53.099
they start establishing pecking order
0:41:51.420,0:41:55.140
man I've seen I've seen some of those
0:41:53.099,0:41:57.780
videos you've you've posted of them
0:41:55.140,0:42:00.140
little video fuzzy cute little pups man
0:41:57.780,0:42:03.300
them things like vicious they're vicious
0:42:00.140,0:42:06.060
oh mean little suckers and they start at
0:42:03.300,0:42:08.940
three weeks they start establishing
0:42:06.060,0:42:10.619
pecking order and so that's when
0:42:08.940,0:42:14.099
I mean we'll probably do another podcast
0:42:10.619,0:42:15.720
before then but uh that's when that
0:42:14.099,0:42:17.160
transition time frames will start adding
0:42:15.720,0:42:19.680
those pull up distress I mean those pup
0:42:17.160,0:42:22.500
fights in along with
0:42:19.680,0:42:25.619
those Pub distresses and those pup
0:42:22.500,0:42:27.839
distresses will continue to you know the
0:42:25.619,0:42:31.560
age class Will consent will continue to
0:42:27.839,0:42:33.780
change and you can call them up on any
0:42:31.560,0:42:36.300
age class at any time of the year but I
0:42:33.780,0:42:38.700
do think if you'll kind of track where
0:42:36.300,0:42:40.440
those coyotes are at in their you know
0:42:38.700,0:42:43.140
what stage of Life they're in the age of
0:42:40.440,0:42:45.300
the pups at that time frame and you you
0:42:43.140,0:42:47.220
kind of track with that and use those
0:42:45.300,0:42:49.800
pup distressed sounds that are related
0:42:47.220,0:42:52.140
to that age class I mean the cows are
0:42:49.800,0:42:54.480
hearing that they're they're keying on
0:42:52.140,0:42:56.940
that yeah so if we take advantage of it
0:42:54.480,0:42:58.859
I think it helps us call call in a few
0:42:56.940,0:43:01.440
more I do too it just and it just makes
0:42:58.859,0:43:04.079
so much sense I mean that's the age
0:43:01.440,0:43:06.960
class they're at play those type of age
0:43:04.079,0:43:09.839
class sounds and plus that helps you
0:43:06.960,0:43:11.880
keep certain sounds fresh you ain't got
0:43:09.839,0:43:14.520
to burn up every sound you got with ever
0:43:11.880,0:43:17.040
stand every day of the year you can't
0:43:14.520,0:43:19.260
we've got so many sounds now with the
0:43:17.040,0:43:21.839
Foxpro library and the mfk game calls
0:43:19.260,0:43:24.480
Library you can save some of these extra
0:43:21.839,0:43:26.220
potent sounds to keep them potent for
0:43:24.480,0:43:27.900
years to come you ain't got to just keep
0:43:26.220,0:43:29.280
hammering the three same three sounds
0:43:27.900,0:43:32.579
all the time
0:43:29.280,0:43:34.500
yeah and it is such I'm a big believer
0:43:32.579,0:43:36.900
in playing on we we talked about
0:43:34.500,0:43:40.079
instincts earlier on I'm a big believer
0:43:36.900,0:43:42.300
in playing on an animal's instincts
0:43:40.079,0:43:44.280
regardless of what animal it is and I
0:43:42.300,0:43:46.380
think he talking about doing another
0:43:44.280,0:43:48.480
podcast or touching on some of this
0:43:46.380,0:43:50.099
stuff round about that May June time
0:43:48.480,0:43:52.260
frame would be perfect because we
0:43:50.099,0:43:54.660
mentioned fond distress and using Fallen
0:43:52.260,0:43:56.880
distress earlier yep when those funds
0:43:54.660,0:43:59.339
start hitting the ground I think it is
0:43:56.880,0:44:01.380
an instinctually built in to not just
0:43:59.339,0:44:03.540
coach but all predators
0:44:01.380,0:44:07.440
they know it's coming it's just like
0:44:03.540,0:44:09.900
bear uh being attracted to a salmon run
0:44:07.440,0:44:11.640
they don't have to to see though they're
0:44:09.900,0:44:13.440
waiting on those fish to get there if
0:44:11.640,0:44:15.960
anybody's ever watched that those bear
0:44:13.440,0:44:18.180
know it's going to happen it's in it's
0:44:15.960,0:44:20.460
built in it's instinctual they'll show
0:44:18.180,0:44:22.920
up before they actually run just two
0:44:20.460,0:44:24.960
days later there they are yeah they'll
0:44:22.920,0:44:27.300
be there way in advance waiting on those
0:44:24.960,0:44:31.140
fish to get there that's instinctual I
0:44:27.300,0:44:33.060
think the same thing happens when Bonds
0:44:31.140,0:44:35.819
hit the ground I had to do some study
0:44:33.060,0:44:37.380
stuff with the farm mortality years ago
0:44:35.819,0:44:40.380
I was doing some seminar stuff and I had
0:44:37.380,0:44:43.079
to do some research on some of the farm
0:44:40.380,0:44:45.060
mortality rates that they attributed to
0:44:43.079,0:44:47.579
codes and in this particular couple two
0:44:45.060,0:44:49.920
or three studies as a whole is about 70
0:44:47.579,0:44:52.619
percent of the bomb mortality rate was
0:44:49.920,0:44:54.540
attributed to coats in that area now
0:44:52.619,0:44:56.819
this area I was looking at didn't didn't
0:44:54.540,0:44:58.740
Factory in Black Bear but just Predators
0:44:56.819,0:45:01.200
as a whole yep
0:44:58.740,0:45:03.599
just shows you how much
0:45:01.200,0:45:06.119
they're keying on those spawns that time
0:45:03.599,0:45:08.160
of the year and I think it is I think
0:45:06.119,0:45:09.780
it's instinctual they know it's going to
0:45:08.160,0:45:12.359
happen before it happens they're ready
0:45:09.780,0:45:15.780
for it and we can take advantage of that
0:45:12.359,0:45:18.660
by knowing it's coming too and uh
0:45:15.780,0:45:20.819
you know being out there with some of
0:45:18.660,0:45:22.680
these pup sounds we're talking about the
0:45:20.819,0:45:24.960
age class is tying in to where those
0:45:22.680,0:45:27.660
couch are at instinctually and then
0:45:24.960,0:45:29.579
stuff like Pond stress using that at
0:45:27.660,0:45:32.160
appropriate times where I mean it'll
0:45:29.579,0:45:34.200
work anytime but it's dynamite that time
0:45:32.160,0:45:35.819
of the year right yeah and that's the
0:45:34.200,0:45:37.680
thing you ain't gonna see too many
0:45:35.819,0:45:39.540
coyotes it's going to pass up a fresh
0:45:37.680,0:45:43.280
Fawn laying on the ground they stumble
0:45:39.540,0:45:45.900
over it it's it's a hard lead yeah yeah
0:45:43.280,0:45:46.740
there's no doubt some of that stuff is
0:45:45.900,0:45:48.900
uh
0:45:46.740,0:45:53.599
you know call it whatever you want to
0:45:48.900,0:45:56.099
instincts uh Evolution whatever
0:45:53.599,0:45:59.400
you want to call it
0:45:56.099,0:46:01.319
that stuff is built in to to certain
0:45:59.400,0:46:04.319
animals and just their survival
0:46:01.319,0:46:05.099
instincts it's it's part of it and the
0:46:04.319,0:46:07.680
more
0:46:05.099,0:46:09.420
the more we learn about these codes
0:46:07.680,0:46:11.400
the better we'll be at calling them up
0:46:09.420,0:46:15.000
and killing them by being ahead of that
0:46:11.400,0:46:17.160
I mean a lot of times you know if if you
0:46:15.000,0:46:19.319
don't know it's coming
0:46:17.160,0:46:20.700
then you're behind the game when you
0:46:19.319,0:46:22.200
finally start using it or you hear
0:46:20.700,0:46:24.660
something about somebody else using it
0:46:22.200,0:46:27.240
you're you know you may be late summer
0:46:24.660,0:46:29.760
and you miss out on right you know when
0:46:27.240,0:46:31.140
it's best yeah but uh you know what and
0:46:29.760,0:46:32.339
that's the thing you know I've said this
0:46:31.140,0:46:34.079
before
0:46:32.339,0:46:36.119
coyotes
0:46:34.079,0:46:38.520
you know they're uh
0:46:36.119,0:46:40.079
they've been put on this Earth to to
0:46:38.520,0:46:41.220
jeopardize you know they're they're
0:46:40.079,0:46:43.500
either
0:46:41.220,0:46:45.180
committing
0:46:43.500,0:46:46.920
you know they're either committing
0:46:45.180,0:46:49.200
depredation or thinking about doing it
0:46:46.920,0:46:50.640
that's just the way it is and usually
0:46:49.200,0:46:52.680
what they're doing is they're hitting
0:46:50.640,0:46:55.260
the most readily available food sources
0:46:52.680,0:46:57.599
so on M5 still start hitting the ground
0:46:55.260,0:46:59.339
guess what that's most readily available
0:46:57.599,0:47:01.440
food source at the time and that's what
0:46:59.339,0:47:03.960
they're going to key in on
0:47:01.440,0:47:05.819
yeah it's big and easy too that's a
0:47:03.960,0:47:09.500
pretty good meal you get to some tender
0:47:05.819,0:47:13.140
a tender juicy fun I'm making me hungry
0:47:09.500,0:47:14.700
I hear you I hear you yeah they're
0:47:13.140,0:47:16.440
they're either committing an act of
0:47:14.700,0:47:18.119
depredation or they're thinking about
0:47:16.440,0:47:20.099
committing active depredation that's
0:47:18.119,0:47:22.440
just how they are
0:47:20.099,0:47:23.640
and yeah and and being ahead of that
0:47:22.440,0:47:25.260
like we talked about we were talking
0:47:23.640,0:47:28.319
about going ahead and using those little
0:47:25.260,0:47:30.000
pup sounds yep talking about the fine
0:47:28.319,0:47:31.880
stuff and them being ready for that and
0:47:30.000,0:47:34.680
bear being ready for the salmon run
0:47:31.880,0:47:36.300
these these couch are ready for those
0:47:34.680,0:47:37.560
pups and even though I know some people
0:47:36.300,0:47:39.359
are probably sitting there thinking well
0:47:37.560,0:47:41.040
they hadn't even had pup [ __ ] why y'all
0:47:39.359,0:47:43.079
running pup distress
0:47:41.040,0:47:45.000
because their mind is on it it's
0:47:43.079,0:47:46.800
instinctual and you want to get the jump
0:47:45.000,0:47:47.700
on that so if you start running those
0:47:46.800,0:47:50.160
sounds
0:47:47.700,0:47:53.160
a little bit ahead of time you can have
0:47:50.160,0:47:54.599
some really good call-ins by kind of
0:47:53.160,0:47:56.700
getting the jump on the couch so to
0:47:54.599,0:47:58.800
speak yeah yeah
0:47:56.700,0:48:00.420
well Tori before we finish up here I got
0:47:58.800,0:48:02.220
a couple questions I want to ask you to
0:48:00.420,0:48:03.839
get out of the way this is one of them I
0:48:02.220,0:48:06.180
asked I've asked you several times we're
0:48:03.839,0:48:08.640
going to make it March specific watch
0:48:06.180,0:48:10.140
your top three favorite sounds for March
0:48:08.640,0:48:12.960
if you just gonna run out there and play
0:48:10.140,0:48:14.700
three sounds what are they gonna be
0:48:12.960,0:48:17.579
but you mentioned one of them right off
0:48:14.700,0:48:21.300
the bat uh broke pups broke pups are
0:48:17.579,0:48:24.599
just it is a killer early uh so that
0:48:21.300,0:48:26.720
would be one of the top ones
0:48:24.599,0:48:26.720
um
0:48:27.000,0:48:30.319
I would probably
0:48:32.460,0:48:40.260
I would probably go with um
0:48:36.540,0:48:43.380
I definitely got to have a house so uh I
0:48:40.260,0:48:45.359
would probably go with
0:48:43.380,0:48:46.859
I've mentioned Boon long Winehouse so
0:48:45.359,0:48:48.800
many times I'll say come here lonely
0:48:46.859,0:48:52.020
house there you go one of my favorites
0:48:48.800,0:48:53.520
one of my favorites so I'd go come to
0:48:52.020,0:48:55.680
your lonely house it's good for getting
0:48:53.520,0:48:58.079
a response and they'll they'll come to
0:48:55.680,0:49:01.020
that sound so that's why I picked it uh
0:48:58.079,0:49:03.180
come here lonely house broke pups
0:49:01.020,0:49:04.619
and
0:49:03.180,0:49:06.240
of course I want to run I want to throw
0:49:04.619,0:49:09.260
you about seven or eight pup sounds
0:49:06.240,0:49:09.260
right but right
0:49:09.440,0:49:15.440
since I'm only picking three I'd I'd go
0:49:12.180,0:49:15.440
right back to uh
0:49:15.599,0:49:21.240
probably go
0:49:18.119,0:49:23.819
I'm gonna go with bam stanky fight I
0:49:21.240,0:49:26.700
really like that fight I am stinky fight
0:49:23.819,0:49:28.380
nice nice for that March time frame it's
0:49:26.700,0:49:29.940
just a younger age class so I'm gonna
0:49:28.380,0:49:32.040
I'm gonna go with that I started to say
0:49:29.940,0:49:34.319
pound town but it's a given I don't have
0:49:32.040,0:49:37.500
to mention it right that's right that's
0:49:34.319,0:49:39.240
right all good stuff good I'll throw
0:49:37.500,0:49:40.859
three more after I always have guys
0:49:39.240,0:49:42.599
that'll write in stuff well what about
0:49:40.859,0:49:44.700
just some of the fox Pro Sounds I don't
0:49:42.599,0:49:46.140
have all the sounds yet and you know I
0:49:44.700,0:49:47.880
don't have the money to spend on it well
0:49:46.140,0:49:50.160
I'll tell you three good Fox Pro Sounds
0:49:47.880,0:49:51.540
it's almost on every single collar and
0:49:50.160,0:49:53.819
they're they're pretty similar to what
0:49:51.540,0:49:56.280
Tory said on the mfk side it'd be female
0:49:53.819,0:49:58.140
deep house it's a got two great big old
0:49:56.280,0:49:59.579
long has at the beginning of it and then
0:49:58.140,0:50:01.560
it goes into some shorter house it's
0:49:59.579,0:50:03.119
really good really good getting Kyle's
0:50:01.560,0:50:05.220
to how back and it's like Tori said
0:50:03.119,0:50:07.500
they'll often come to it
0:50:05.220,0:50:10.140
I mentioned it earlier and I have people
0:50:07.500,0:50:12.540
think I'm crazy but canine puppies too
0:50:10.140,0:50:14.520
yeah they are domesticated pups but
0:50:12.540,0:50:16.980
guess what little tiny puppies this
0:50:14.520,0:50:18.240
these puppy sounds that were recorded I
0:50:16.980,0:50:19.680
don't know what either coyotes will come
0:50:18.240,0:50:22.200
to it and they're just small puppy
0:50:19.680,0:50:23.520
sounds and then there's a old sound a
0:50:22.200,0:50:26.700
lot of people don't think sounds all
0:50:23.520,0:50:29.040
that good it's old coyote pup distress
0:50:26.700,0:50:31.140
number two you don't hear about coyote
0:50:29.040,0:50:32.520
pup distress number two very much but I
0:50:31.140,0:50:34.680
don't know what it is about the pitch of
0:50:32.520,0:50:36.660
that sound but my goodness back in the
0:50:34.680,0:50:38.579
day you used to be able to just set up
0:50:36.660,0:50:40.859
no house no nothing
0:50:38.579,0:50:41.880
play pup distress number two and coyotes
0:50:40.859,0:50:43.140
would come running from three or four
0:50:41.880,0:50:44.940
different directions so there you go
0:50:43.140,0:50:46.260
there's your three Fox Pro Sounds to go
0:50:44.940,0:50:46.980
with that
0:50:46.260,0:50:49.920
um
0:50:46.980,0:50:52.920
got another question for here for you
0:50:49.920,0:50:55.140
I hear a lot of hunters say that their
0:50:52.920,0:50:57.839
least favorite month
0:50:55.140,0:51:01.200
for calling coyotes is March I want to
0:50:57.839,0:51:05.339
know where Tori cook ranks it
0:51:01.200,0:51:07.700
you fear March or is March
0:51:05.339,0:51:07.700
yeah
0:51:08.099,0:51:14.280
March is a tough month but I like March
0:51:10.980,0:51:18.300
when I when I find coyote so I actually
0:51:14.280,0:51:20.160
like March but I do a lot of riding too
0:51:18.300,0:51:22.800
find those pairs that I was talking
0:51:20.160,0:51:25.740
about earlier right right and those are
0:51:22.800,0:51:27.540
really hard stands so that's a
0:51:25.740,0:51:30.780
if I was blind calling I would hate
0:51:27.540,0:51:32.940
March yeah but yep if I'm if I'm fine if
0:51:30.780,0:51:34.140
I know where the coyotes are and you
0:51:32.940,0:51:35.400
know I'm gonna make an effort to know
0:51:34.140,0:51:36.960
where they're at then I actually like
0:51:35.400,0:51:38.040
March so
0:51:36.960,0:51:40.220
um
0:51:38.040,0:51:43.200
and I don't have anything else going on
0:51:40.220,0:51:46.020
that's another reason that I like March
0:51:43.200,0:51:48.780
you get some of the months that are
0:51:46.020,0:51:50.940
really good for coyote hunting
0:51:48.780,0:51:52.140
I don't like I don't like it that
0:51:50.940,0:51:54.059
they're good because I've got other
0:51:52.140,0:51:55.859
things occupy them you know right by
0:51:54.059,0:51:58.339
wanting deer I'm chasing turkey or
0:51:55.859,0:52:00.839
whatever fishing a little bit
0:51:58.339,0:52:03.059
what's your least favorite month
0:52:00.839,0:52:04.619
but if you had to pick one which one you
0:52:03.059,0:52:06.180
just like they said you got to cut out
0:52:04.619,0:52:07.800
one month out of the year not a coyote
0:52:06.180,0:52:09.420
hunt what month's it gonna be take out
0:52:07.800,0:52:11.280
take out a deer hunting and all that
0:52:09.420,0:52:13.319
stuff so he was all you was doing was
0:52:11.280,0:52:15.359
coyote hunting what month would you kick
0:52:13.319,0:52:18.200
out there
0:52:15.359,0:52:18.200
uh
0:52:18.720,0:52:21.380
probably
0:52:22.140,0:52:26.579
you said don't consider anything else
0:52:24.780,0:52:28.980
yeah don't consider don't consider
0:52:26.579,0:52:31.020
turkey season Duncan don't consider one
0:52:28.980,0:52:31.980
of them crappie fighting all that type
0:52:31.020,0:52:35.660
of stuff
0:52:31.980,0:52:35.660
I would probably uh
0:52:35.819,0:52:40.380
it would probably be March or April
0:52:37.920,0:52:42.240
simply because you know that April time
0:52:40.380,0:52:44.579
frame pups are in the ground people so
0:52:42.240,0:52:47.339
I'd probably say April April would be my
0:52:44.579,0:52:49.260
my least favorite yeah well you hit
0:52:47.339,0:52:50.880
that's exactly if you'd ask me I said
0:52:49.260,0:52:52.740
it'd either be March or April or maybe
0:52:50.880,0:52:56.059
throw both of them in there
0:52:52.740,0:52:58.500
Yeah Yeah March April that anytime them
0:52:56.059,0:53:01.859
anytime they're dinning with pups in the
0:52:58.500,0:53:04.020
ground that's tough right I mean
0:53:01.859,0:53:05.880
um so yeah either one of those months if
0:53:04.020,0:53:08.220
nothing else if I'm strictly thinking
0:53:05.880,0:53:10.500
coyote hunting alone I would it would be
0:53:08.220,0:53:12.720
one of those two months for sure and may
0:53:10.500,0:53:15.180
would be followed right behind that and
0:53:12.720,0:53:18.420
then once June starts then I really
0:53:15.180,0:53:20.579
start liking it right yeah yeah that's
0:53:18.420,0:53:23.220
usually seems like Memorial Day weekends
0:53:20.579,0:53:25.200
when it really seems to really fire back
0:53:23.220,0:53:27.240
up again where it gets you know those
0:53:25.200,0:53:30.180
Dynamic call-ins and they'll come from a
0:53:27.240,0:53:32.040
little further off and really vocal and
0:53:30.180,0:53:33.660
all that type of stuff so yeah I I
0:53:32.040,0:53:35.280
totally agree with you
0:53:33.660,0:53:36.839
well let me flip the script on you
0:53:35.280,0:53:39.480
what's your favorite month if you could
0:53:36.839,0:53:40.319
only hunt or a couple months what's your
0:53:39.480,0:53:42.900
favorite
0:53:40.319,0:53:45.240
and you can consider multiple things you
0:53:42.900,0:53:46.740
can consider that whatever you want to
0:53:45.240,0:53:48.359
consider what's what's when you're going
0:53:46.740,0:53:51.740
to hunt them
0:53:48.359,0:53:51.740
can I pick more on one
0:53:51.900,0:53:55.800
but you can't you can't spread them out
0:53:54.240,0:53:59.280
you can't pick one from the summer and
0:53:55.800,0:54:02.460
one from the winter okay I I'll do uh I
0:53:59.280,0:54:05.700
really like July man yep one thing about
0:54:02.460,0:54:07.319
July there's Dagon mosquitoes or buzzing
0:54:05.700,0:54:09.000
everywhere and there's flies biting on
0:54:07.319,0:54:10.980
you and ticks are crawling all over you
0:54:09.000,0:54:13.680
and the grass is making your legs itch
0:54:10.980,0:54:15.720
and snakes are trying to bite you and I
0:54:13.680,0:54:17.760
mean it's it's rough for that and it's
0:54:15.720,0:54:20.520
usually so hot no matter where you go
0:54:17.760,0:54:23.460
it's it's horrible but man if you can
0:54:20.520,0:54:24.619
get past all that I've had some of the
0:54:23.460,0:54:27.359
wildest
0:54:24.619,0:54:28.859
call-ins and some of the most fun stands
0:54:27.359,0:54:31.559
I've ever been I'm talking about making
0:54:28.859,0:54:33.780
stands when it's 105 degrees outside in
0:54:31.559,0:54:36.300
some places and you don't think you call
0:54:33.780,0:54:38.700
a coyote up for nothing and here come a
0:54:36.300,0:54:40.319
pair come rolling out with a helper or
0:54:38.700,0:54:42.800
two and they'll be screaming in your
0:54:40.319,0:54:45.720
face July's cool
0:54:42.800,0:54:48.119
another time in September
0:54:45.720,0:54:49.800
write one of those yearlings really get
0:54:48.119,0:54:52.380
you know they're almost as big as Mom
0:54:49.800,0:54:54.059
and Dad or look at anyway and and
0:54:52.380,0:54:55.619
there's just so many sounds it's working
0:54:54.059,0:54:57.000
you know you can start calling them in
0:54:55.619,0:54:59.099
on you pray distressed stuff I like
0:54:57.000,0:55:01.140
September really well and then I'd have
0:54:59.099,0:55:03.240
to finish up with uh I'm gonna say July
0:55:01.140,0:55:05.940
September and December
0:55:03.240,0:55:07.500
yeah that pretty much would that would
0:55:05.940,0:55:09.599
be real
0:55:07.500,0:55:10.680
All Things Considered I ain't gonna be
0:55:09.599,0:55:14.160
hunting them in December because I'm
0:55:10.680,0:55:16.200
probably still chasing horns but uh but
0:55:14.160,0:55:17.400
what I really like about that summertime
0:55:16.200,0:55:19.800
frame
0:55:17.400,0:55:21.720
no people you don't have any deer
0:55:19.800,0:55:24.599
hunters turkey hunters any of that right
0:55:21.720,0:55:25.920
ground access is easier people will let
0:55:24.599,0:55:27.900
you hunt you can get by with hunting
0:55:25.920,0:55:29.400
plates I have a ton of ground in the
0:55:27.900,0:55:30.920
summertime that I don't have in the
0:55:29.400,0:55:33.420
wintertime right
0:55:30.920,0:55:35.760
exactly exactly
0:55:33.420,0:55:38.240
so you can just get by with so much and
0:55:35.760,0:55:40.500
all the reasons you mentioned just those
0:55:38.240,0:55:44.339
Dynamite stands with
0:55:40.500,0:55:45.619
crazy call-ins yeah so I would pretty
0:55:44.339,0:55:50.700
much
0:55:45.619,0:55:53.940
that June July basically June through
0:55:50.700,0:55:55.920
uh September it's hard to beat that time
0:55:53.940,0:55:59.160
frame and especially especially July
0:55:55.920,0:56:01.740
through September it is you know and I'm
0:55:59.160,0:56:04.740
not I'm not really throwing August out
0:56:01.740,0:56:06.720
August is right there with July the same
0:56:04.740,0:56:08.760
type of stuff but I don't know I guess
0:56:06.720,0:56:11.220
the tail end of September and the first
0:56:08.760,0:56:14.960
part of October during that stretch
0:56:11.220,0:56:17.160
and then the stretch of like
0:56:14.960,0:56:19.079
mid-December or maybe maybe the whole
0:56:17.160,0:56:21.359
month of December that's usually when I
0:56:19.079,0:56:22.680
killed the bulk of my coyotes my two
0:56:21.359,0:56:24.960
biggest
0:56:22.680,0:56:27.780
coyote Colin months we're all killed by
0:56:24.960,0:56:31.740
most coyotes is usually always December
0:56:27.780,0:56:34.859
and usually it's it's that September ish
0:56:31.740,0:56:36.059
October time frame I don't know I I
0:56:34.859,0:56:38.760
don't know if that's just when I'm a
0:56:36.059,0:56:40.559
better better coyote caller for for how
0:56:38.760,0:56:42.420
I call or what but that's usually when I
0:56:40.559,0:56:43.980
kill the that's when I'll have my two
0:56:42.420,0:56:44.940
best months of coyote calling throughout
0:56:43.980,0:56:49.079
the year
0:56:44.940,0:56:50.099
yeah daytime cow calling right
0:56:49.079,0:56:51.660
yeah
0:56:50.099,0:56:53.460
it's a
0:56:51.660,0:56:55.079
it's definitely some good times but
0:56:53.460,0:56:57.660
that's that's for sure that the better
0:56:55.079,0:56:59.760
times and it all goes back to what we
0:56:57.660,0:57:02.579
were talking about before hey if you
0:56:59.760,0:57:05.400
relate it back to you know December
0:57:02.579,0:57:06.780
that's falling right behind those pups
0:57:05.400,0:57:08.640
getting you know you got a lot of
0:57:06.780,0:57:10.680
coyotes in you've got all those pups
0:57:08.640,0:57:12.540
that are just bus family bus stops just
0:57:10.680,0:57:14.220
taking place and you know you got
0:57:12.540,0:57:16.680
coyotes running around everywhere so it
0:57:14.220,0:57:18.300
makes sense yeah most coyotes that can
0:57:16.680,0:57:20.040
be called in at that time frame it's
0:57:18.300,0:57:22.260
kind of like it's a total opposite
0:57:20.040,0:57:23.520
what's going on now now we've got the
0:57:22.260,0:57:25.559
least amount of coyotes that you can
0:57:23.520,0:57:27.839
call throughout the year and then that
0:57:25.559,0:57:29.880
September October time frame and you
0:57:27.839,0:57:33.540
generally have the most coyotes that you
0:57:29.880,0:57:35.400
could call up so all right man I had I
0:57:33.540,0:57:37.920
had all kinds of questions wrote down
0:57:35.400,0:57:39.119
here and I ain't got to ask you none of
0:57:37.920,0:57:40.260
them I guess we're getting pretty good
0:57:39.119,0:57:42.559
with this tour because I ain't you know
0:57:40.260,0:57:45.480
we covered it
0:57:42.559,0:57:46.920
that's a good thing yeah I got all this
0:57:45.480,0:57:48.720
stuff down through here you know what
0:57:46.920,0:57:50.700
about these fights and these pup sounds
0:57:48.720,0:57:52.859
I'm all about you know it's we've we
0:57:50.700,0:57:54.599
covered it we getting good I like it
0:57:52.859,0:57:56.280
the only thing I do when we're doing
0:57:54.599,0:57:57.900
these podcasts is we'll start talking
0:57:56.280,0:58:00.059
about these other times of the year and
0:57:57.900,0:58:01.980
I hold back on information because I
0:58:00.059,0:58:04.319
know it's too much to try to cram into
0:58:01.980,0:58:06.480
one podcast they get too long
0:58:04.319,0:58:08.040
oh I mean it's just it's so much stuff
0:58:06.480,0:58:10.500
we go to talking about that August
0:58:08.040,0:58:12.059
September time frame that's another you
0:58:10.500,0:58:13.920
know transition time when you get into
0:58:12.059,0:58:16.380
that family bust up and it's different
0:58:13.920,0:58:18.780
just different ways to call them up and
0:58:16.380,0:58:19.500
you know what stage the couch we're in
0:58:18.780,0:58:21.540
but
0:58:19.500,0:58:23.700
that's that's good we got stuff to talk
0:58:21.540,0:58:26.700
about in the future yeah you you all
0:58:23.700,0:58:29.700
stay tuned for future future episodes of
0:58:26.700,0:58:31.619
the Foxpro podcast well Thor you got
0:58:29.700,0:58:33.180
anything you'd like to you'd like to say
0:58:31.619,0:58:34.859
everybody before we get off here we
0:58:33.180,0:58:37.260
we're gaining on an hour of talking
0:58:34.859,0:58:39.839
already if you can believe that I know
0:58:37.260,0:58:41.579
it it went quick I mean just the usual
0:58:39.839,0:58:44.760
what I say every time
0:58:41.579,0:58:47.160
I appreciate everybody using Foxpro mfk
0:58:44.760,0:58:49.260
listening to the podcast and uh just
0:58:47.160,0:58:52.140
supporting us and hope you all are
0:58:49.260,0:58:54.359
having a lot of success with uh with the
0:58:52.140,0:58:55.680
sounds and hopefully these podcasts are
0:58:54.359,0:58:57.059
helping you out and I really appreciate
0:58:55.680,0:58:59.339
y'all letting us know a lot of people
0:58:57.059,0:59:01.260
have have got on Facebook or sent
0:58:59.339,0:59:02.940
messages and and let us know that
0:59:01.260,0:59:04.380
they're helping you out and it doesn't
0:59:02.940,0:59:06.000
go unnoticed
0:59:04.380,0:59:08.280
just uh
0:59:06.000,0:59:10.799
appreciate y'all that's it no it
0:59:08.280,0:59:13.680
definitely I had we just come back from
0:59:10.799,0:59:16.020
the nwtf convention and I cannot tell
0:59:13.680,0:59:18.000
you how many people and was actually at
0:59:16.020,0:59:21.780
uh Great American outdoor show a couple
0:59:18.000,0:59:24.900
weeks ago then we did nwtf and both
0:59:21.780,0:59:27.839
shows I had so many people come up and
0:59:24.900,0:59:30.059
thank me and thank the company for uh
0:59:27.839,0:59:32.819
doing these podcasts just had a lot of
0:59:30.059,0:59:34.260
praise for it and it's good to hear that
0:59:32.819,0:59:35.819
you know guys telling you hey you helped
0:59:34.260,0:59:37.920
me kill a couple extra coyotes this year
0:59:35.819,0:59:39.660
you know what you're all doing Tori said
0:59:37.920,0:59:42.059
this and that made it it made things
0:59:39.660,0:59:43.440
click and just thank you guys so much
0:59:42.059,0:59:45.240
for what you've been putting out there
0:59:43.440,0:59:47.280
and I haven't had a chance to tell you
0:59:45.240,0:59:48.780
that Tori but you know a lot of people a
0:59:47.280,0:59:50.760
lot of people been Thanking us over the
0:59:48.780,0:59:52.680
last few weeks for the podcast
0:59:50.760,0:59:55.619
that's good stuff like I said it doesn't
0:59:52.680,0:59:58.980
go it doesn't go unnoticed and uh and
0:59:55.619,1:00:01.319
you know we like hearing from everybody
0:59:58.980,1:00:03.240
it's and it gives us ideas I've had some
1:00:01.319,1:00:05.460
people I know you do too you have people
1:00:03.240,1:00:07.559
that say Hey I wish y'all mention this
1:00:05.460,1:00:08.819
or talk about that and you know that
1:00:07.559,1:00:11.700
stuff we can
1:00:08.819,1:00:12.960
keep in mind for down the road so if
1:00:11.700,1:00:15.839
y'all got stuff you want to hear about
1:00:12.960,1:00:18.599
let us know and for sure for sure if
1:00:15.839,1:00:20.280
there's anything topics specific topics
1:00:18.599,1:00:23.099
specific questions
1:00:20.280,1:00:25.020
don't matter to us you know sending in
1:00:23.099,1:00:27.119
the Tori sending in to myself send it to
1:00:25.020,1:00:28.799
the Foxpro page whatever we'll see if we
1:00:27.119,1:00:30.839
can't get it covered we really
1:00:28.799,1:00:33.059
appreciate appreciate you guys tuning in
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