FOXPRO's Jon Collins and Host of "Struttin' in the Bluegrass", Bo McGuffey discuss scouting, decoy spread and calling tactics for spring turkey hunting success.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls
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hello everyone I'm John Collins welcome
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back to the Foxpro podcast on this
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episode we have Beau McGuffey the host
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of strutting in the Bluegrass joining us
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what's going on Bo you doing all right
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I'm good man how's everything in your
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world
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wet and rainy today
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well we live close enough to one another
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I know exactly what you mean it's it's
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it's not a very pretty spring day that's
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for sure yeah beau's just sitting
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probably 20 minutes from me maybe 25 at
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the most just in the neighboring County
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and we've had uh it was cold yesterday a
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little cool this morning had some rain
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come through and I think supposed to be
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back up in the 70s tomorrow though
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um turkeys ought to be hammering in the
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morning
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I know what Yeah tomorrow's supposed to
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get nice and warm and then I think we
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got a lot of rain but then I already
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looked uh Sunday it's supposed to be you
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know supposed to clear out Saturday
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afternoon and Sunday looks uh clear and
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and nice so I've already got plans to be
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out Sunday morning listening because
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they ought to they ought to be gobbling
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pretty good dang right it's that time of
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year and guys and gals bowl is the host
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of Kentucky Department of Fish and
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Wildlife spring show called strutting in
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the Bluegrass strutting is a seven show
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series where they filmed the first seven
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days of Kentucky spring turkey season
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they filmed the shows that morning get
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the show edited up midday and then
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actually put that show out that they
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filmed that morning they put it out that
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afternoon pretty wild series but oh you
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ready you're about ready to get that
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thing started for this year we're we're
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ready or we think we're ready you know
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what I mean it's uh but like you said
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it's uh you know you you look at
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producing shows and heck you you know
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this and you all are as good as anybody
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putting out you know recent content but
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you go to a format of where okay we're
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going out in the morning and we're going
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to film that morning's action and we
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need to produce a show that evening uh
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it's you know you got to come up with
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some material and some content and Heck
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if we've turkey hunting long enough you
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know you got you you know you'll have
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some mornings where things don't go
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right so so we think we're ready we you
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know we've been planning it for a while
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and sure got our properties lined out
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and sort of a schedule we're gonna hunt
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with some different people this year so
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uh yeah we're ready for it so you know
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just excited to get it get into it yep
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it was gonna be the fourth the fourth
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season of strutting
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yeah fourth fourth year it's crazy isn't
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it yeah it is it is it uh actually the
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first two seasons of it
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um I actually helped both that me and
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Beau were actually the co-host of
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strutting I'm I've moved on here to a
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position at Foxpro and and got away from
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that but uh Foxpro actually still
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sponsors that show they uh we sponsor
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them with turkey calls and and uh man
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it's it's a series I kind of miss being
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part of it but at the same time it's so
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hectic and it's a little stressful it's
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a little stressful so I'm not really
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missing that but I sure do uh miss
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hunting with you guys and putting that
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show on it's a it's a great show you
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guys need to need to check it out this
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spring when it starts when when does it
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start up bro what's uh what is opening
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day
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opening day this year in Kentucky is
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April 15th so uh that's it'll kick off
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that day uh and you know it's one thing
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if if anybody's you know of course on
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Facebook one thing we do with it as well
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oh we'll do that show that night but
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middle of the day late morning we'll
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actually do a Facebook live and uh we go
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live for 15 to 20 minutes and the one
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thing that that I've really started
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enjoying with those lives during the
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year is it's really neat because uh you
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know you get people commenting from all
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across the state of what they're seeing
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what they're hearing what birds are
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doing in in their area and uh and it's
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sort of neat when you get on there and
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maybe you've had a bad morning or
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somebody on there is about a slow
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morning and they see somebody else had
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some action it can be encouraged into
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them so but but the Facebook lives are a
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big part of that as well so uh it starts
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April April 15th and and like you said
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earlier we'll go seven days first first
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seven days of season and we'll produce a
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show each each day of that opening week
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yep it's uh it's pretty much as live as
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you can get besides we're just streaming
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it as it as it happens I mean you get to
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see that action that afternoon today got
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to put down uh that morning and you guys
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can watch that on Kentucky Department
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Fish and Wildlife Facebook page your
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Instagram page and their YouTube channel
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so their YouTube channel that's right be
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sure to check that out uh here just next
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month here in just a few weeks just a
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few weeks you had to be here before you
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know it that's for sure exactly my son
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is still 15. so youth weekend is April
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1st and 2nd for for Kentucky
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uh so we've already got plans you know
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we're going to hunt that weekend and we
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won't put that show out until opening
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week hopefully we get all bird and
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produce a show right but uh we'll put
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we'll include that hunt hopefully uh
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during the week so but yeah I mean less
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than two weeks we'll be hunting awesome
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awesome can't wait for it to get started
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well uh bo uh we've done quite a bit of
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hunting together over the years haven't
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we a little a little bit yeah that's
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that's another thing bo uh Bo's one of
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my best friends I got and plus he's uh
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we're cousins we're first cousins his
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dad my mom or brother and sister and we
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pretty much uh grew up together and and
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grew up in Outdoors together
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yeah I know heck yeah especially turkey
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out and I'm sure we'll talk about it at
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some point Lord we learned the turkey
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out together we didn't even know what we
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were doing but but uh but yeah it's
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funny because uh you know the success
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you've had are super proud of you but
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people you know like I said we grew up
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together we got pictures standing around
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you know
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when our kids together and people ask me
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so you know John Collins I said yeah I
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know him a little bit uh yeah I know the
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boy a little bit so I don't know like I
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said the turkey hunting thing yeah we
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basically learned learned that whole
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process right beside each other yep
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that's and another wild thing is is uh
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uh me and Bo we uh you know I shared my
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first Real Deal coyote stand with Bo
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many many moons ago and uh I don't know
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if it it left the same impact on you
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Beau but uh if you remember on our very
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first hand we called in seven
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cows because it was it was it was a
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crazy morning it really was but yeah and
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I I remember that like it was yesterday
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we both we both got lucky and killed
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deer that year and was tagged out and we
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said let's try this thing and I don't
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know if you remember or not but we
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literally had a Primos mouth call I
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couldn't remember I could remember what
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I just remember it was uh uh just some
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kind of wooden tube Cottondale distress
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yeah that's all it was it was just yeah
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and there we went with two deer rifles
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and and and then several years later
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heck your work you know that's what you
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do for a living it's pretty neat man it
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was it was wild we actually called in
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seven coyotes on the first coyote stand
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and we unloaded
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I'll tell you how crazy we was you know
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of course there ain't no money we was
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young and you know Beau was packing uh
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if I remember right a 30-30 Winchester
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lever action model 94 and uh I I
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actually had a 243 and 22 250 a few
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things my dad's but didn't have no ammo
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for none of them it just so happened
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like it's going to sound wild to people
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but the only rifle besides for a 22 long
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rifle I had in the house that I had ammo
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for was I had a had a rifle sitting
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there my uncles it was a Weatherby Mark
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IV or something I don't know one of them
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fancy Weatherby guns chambered in 300
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Weatherby Magnum
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so
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yeah after all the smoke cleared and
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them seven coyotes come running in
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everything uh you know it got chaotic
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quick anyway he unloaded at 30 30 and I
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unloaded at 300 with it but we only had
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two coyotes laying on the ground When
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the Smoke came up I tell you what man
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you thought we killed two big bone and
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Crockett bugs
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say this the one you
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shot that in quite a while the one that
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got shot that lever action 30 30 didn't
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either because he run up there to 30
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steps from us both shot him right in the
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chest
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yeah I hadn't thought about that in
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quite a while yeah yeah but uh yeah we
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uh we started turkey hunting together to
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hit a really young age uh we were
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teenagers early teens and uh early teens
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yeah yeah I wasn't close to having my
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driver's license yeah yeah yeah and I
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tell you what uh pretty much uh the
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person that kind of got us into it or or
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had a big part of getting it started in
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turkey hunting was your grandpa
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that's right this time of year
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in uh March and early April we'd uh we
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get to ride around beau's Grandpa and
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you don't want to my area of Kentucky
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really didn't my part where I lived at
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and grew up really didn't have that many
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turkeys but you know I'll go over and
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visit you guys and your grandpa get to
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riding us around and man we'd spend a
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whole weekend looking for turkeys and
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and finding these you know it was it was
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wild
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no it was I mean it was literally you
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know it had the same impact on you as it
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did me and I don't think we even
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realized at the time that you're right
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my grandpa and of course people can
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relate you know my grandpa he had never
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even seen a wild turkey he said you know
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he could recall the first time somebody
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told him about one he thought they were
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lying and and I can still remember the
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first time he showed me one and he was
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he was you remember he was amazed by
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them and and the funny thing is he never
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killed one he never killed one but but
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you're right he would all mean you were
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out and uh you know the first time we
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saw him strutting and really the first
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time we had one gobble it was it was
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done you know it was just hooked for
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life and uh but you're right we would
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ride around you know there was no season
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in some of the counties we live you know
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where we lived but but we would spend
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all spring just riding around and
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watching them uh it was just you know
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just amazed by them and uh but you're
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right that's what got it all started
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with us yep and finally when we had a
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good hunt on here close to home and had
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a had a season and huntable population
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we've been pouring it to them ever since
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how long you went John but
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I mean you know like I said I was a kid
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you know whenever we started you're four
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years older than me
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okay uh three three in a month okay fair
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enough fair enough but uh but you know I
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mean the first few years I mean John I
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hunted four years before I heard one
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gobble a while hunting you know we just
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didn't have no birds to hunt I remember
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that year you killed a jake and heck we
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looked at that thing like it was a you
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know a 106 inch white yeah yeah I got I
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got pretty pretty lucky you know I might
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you know probably a lot better Hunter
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than you are yeah I actually killed one
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killed one the first year but it was
0:11:20.579,0:11:25.380
pure luck and it was a it was a great
0:11:22.860,0:11:27.899
big old fat Jake and uh it's like you
0:11:25.380,0:11:31.019
said you know it's actually a second
0:11:27.899,0:11:34.320
hump first Hunt went out and had zero
0:11:31.019,0:11:36.779
luck second day went out mid morning
0:11:34.320,0:11:39.480
you know it was got lucky enough to get
0:11:36.779,0:11:41.519
on a bird heard Birds gobbling and uh
0:11:39.480,0:11:45.000
called it Jakey now strutting Goblin
0:11:41.519,0:11:47.220
Jake and man oh man hooked on that ever
0:11:45.000,0:11:48.660
seen I mean I was already hooked I was
0:11:47.220,0:11:50.339
just riding around and watching turkeys
0:11:48.660,0:11:52.560
and listening to turkeys but well
0:11:50.339,0:11:55.800
actually actually got one to flopping
0:11:52.560,0:11:58.920
it's a it was just a game changer yeah
0:11:55.800,0:12:00.240
now so so yeah it started early early on
0:11:58.920,0:12:02.160
with this and like I said my grandpa
0:12:00.240,0:12:03.899
Yana Every Spring I don't know about you
0:12:02.160,0:12:06.480
you know he passed a few years ago but
0:12:03.899,0:12:07.920
every spring he he comes back to me
0:12:06.480,0:12:10.560
pretty good because when I think about
0:12:07.920,0:12:12.540
Springtime in Turkey I go I think about
0:12:10.560,0:12:13.920
him a lot because he did he put a lot of
0:12:12.540,0:12:16.019
time in writing and me and you around
0:12:13.920,0:12:18.240
and showing you know and just letting us
0:12:16.019,0:12:19.860
look at them and watch them and uh
0:12:18.240,0:12:22.220
and he loved you know he loved wild
0:12:19.860,0:12:25.860
turkey just as much as we did yeah yeah
0:12:22.220,0:12:27.959
I think uh whole Paul Jimmy for that I I
0:12:25.860,0:12:29.220
definitely definitely that's right thank
0:12:27.959,0:12:31.920
him for getting us started in turkey
0:12:29.220,0:12:34.320
hunting that's for sure so uh speaking
0:12:31.920,0:12:36.420
all that what does uh bo what is turkey
0:12:34.320,0:12:38.399
hunting what does turkey hunt mean to
0:12:36.420,0:12:42.240
Beau McGuffey
0:12:38.399,0:12:45.540
man that's uh that's a good question
0:12:42.240,0:12:48.480
um you know and you know I'm sure you're
0:12:45.540,0:12:51.540
you're the same way but it's and it it
0:12:48.480,0:12:54.779
just does my soul good man I'm telling
0:12:51.540,0:12:58.620
you you come out a winner uh
0:12:54.779,0:13:00.120
and you know take you know the
0:12:58.620,0:13:01.740
the woods and the fields and
0:13:00.120,0:13:04.860
everything's coming back to life and and
0:13:01.740,0:13:07.260
to see turkey strutting and Goblin it
0:13:04.860,0:13:09.779
puts a you know a new fire in May each
0:13:07.260,0:13:11.339
year but it's uh it's something that
0:13:09.779,0:13:12.779
literally like you know I sit in a deer
0:13:11.339,0:13:14.820
stand
0:13:12.779,0:13:16.860
you know I loved a deer hunt but I'm
0:13:14.820,0:13:19.260
thinking about turkey season
0:13:16.860,0:13:22.620
it's uh beside you know after my faith
0:13:19.260,0:13:25.019
in in God my family turkey hunting is
0:13:22.620,0:13:27.420
it's right there it's something I truly
0:13:25.019,0:13:29.700
truly love and have a passion for and uh
0:13:27.420,0:13:31.800
and look forward to it every year I'm
0:13:29.700,0:13:33.240
sure I'm sure you're like me I thought
0:13:31.800,0:13:35.279
before like you know as I get older
0:13:33.240,0:13:37.200
wonderful things what if I'm gonna
0:13:35.279,0:13:38.820
keep love chasing those things like uh
0:13:37.200,0:13:40.380
like I always have and it's it's every
0:13:38.820,0:13:44.519
year I think I enjoy it more and more
0:13:40.380,0:13:46.800
right I really do uh you know I saw a
0:13:44.519,0:13:48.000
flock strut and other the other A Flock
0:13:46.800,0:13:49.320
with a couple Birds strutting the other
0:13:48.000,0:13:51.540
day and I you know I pulled over and
0:13:49.320,0:13:53.519
watched them for 10 minutes I I just I
0:13:51.540,0:13:55.560
really like I said going back to my
0:13:53.519,0:13:57.600
grandpa it turkey hunting means the
0:13:55.560,0:13:59.459
world to me uh so and it's you know when
0:13:57.600,0:14:03.000
you think about the relationship and
0:13:59.459,0:14:04.680
help build with uh you and you and I uh
0:14:03.000,0:14:06.240
and then and then new friends over the
0:14:04.680,0:14:09.120
years you know you introduced Merle
0:14:06.240,0:14:10.980
hacker to me yep uh he helps me on that
0:14:09.120,0:14:12.839
show it's just stuff like that it now
0:14:10.980,0:14:15.360
turkey hunting is a big big part of my
0:14:12.839,0:14:19.019
life and something I'm so thankful for
0:14:15.360,0:14:21.959
yep for sure that's good stuff Let's uh
0:14:19.019,0:14:24.000
let's talk about uh a little bit you
0:14:21.959,0:14:26.100
know getting depth kind of talk about
0:14:24.000,0:14:28.019
turkey Scout and what goes on through
0:14:26.100,0:14:30.420
the season stuff how important do you
0:14:28.019,0:14:32.100
feel like turkey scouting scouting for
0:14:30.420,0:14:34.200
turkeys is to your success throughout
0:14:32.100,0:14:36.540
the year ends especially to success for
0:14:34.200,0:14:39.420
uh for strutting in a Bluegrass you know
0:14:36.540,0:14:41.100
that's that's such a such a big deal for
0:14:39.420,0:14:42.660
you know it's just seven days and you
0:14:41.100,0:14:44.519
got to put a show out all seven days
0:14:42.660,0:14:48.420
there's a lot of planning goes into that
0:14:44.519,0:14:51.660
and and scouting plays a huge huge role
0:14:48.420,0:14:54.000
in it you know there's I mean you know
0:14:51.660,0:14:55.500
this you know there's you know tons of
0:14:54.000,0:14:57.120
people that hunt and a lot and there's
0:14:55.500,0:14:58.199
lots of dedicated turkey hunters out
0:14:57.120,0:15:00.300
there lots of people love to chase
0:14:58.199,0:15:02.579
turkeys but you know the vast majority
0:15:00.300,0:15:04.019
of people in my circle they love to deer
0:15:02.579,0:15:05.639
hunt and and they you know they turkey
0:15:04.019,0:15:08.360
out in the spring because they enjoy it
0:15:05.639,0:15:11.459
but but I don't think people understand
0:15:08.360,0:15:13.320
how important scouting is with success
0:15:11.459,0:15:14.519
and into account because like I said all
0:15:13.320,0:15:15.839
those people with deer hunting man
0:15:14.519,0:15:17.160
they're all about scouting they'll
0:15:15.839,0:15:18.839
scouting you know they Scout winter
0:15:17.160,0:15:21.540
through spring and start developing
0:15:18.839,0:15:23.639
plans uh but it comes to turkey hunting
0:15:21.540,0:15:25.800
you know a lot of people look at it as
0:15:23.639,0:15:27.360
ah let's just show up and see if they
0:15:25.800,0:15:29.100
gobble and see if we can't get on one
0:15:27.360,0:15:32.399
and that works I mean heck we do that
0:15:29.100,0:15:34.500
too but as far as success man I'm
0:15:32.399,0:15:36.720
telling you your scouting is
0:15:34.500,0:15:38.760
how you can make or break it in my
0:15:36.720,0:15:40.760
opinion and being well I'll say this I'm
0:15:38.760,0:15:43.260
being successful on a consistent basis
0:15:40.760,0:15:44.940
uh it's probably a better way to put it
0:15:43.260,0:15:46.320
and I tell people all the time one of
0:15:44.940,0:15:49.019
the things people always talk about is
0:15:46.320,0:15:51.779
you know how you call you know what kind
0:15:49.019,0:15:54.420
of calls you use and and uh is there
0:15:51.779,0:15:56.880
certain you know vocabulary years more
0:15:54.420,0:15:58.860
than another with turkeys and if you
0:15:56.880,0:16:00.240
want to be a good turkey caller in my in
0:15:58.860,0:16:02.459
my opinion
0:16:00.240,0:16:04.800
know where a turkey wants to be know
0:16:02.459,0:16:08.399
where he wants to go and uh and it makes
0:16:04.800,0:16:09.420
your call on so much easier right and
0:16:08.399,0:16:11.459
you know
0:16:09.420,0:16:13.320
I learned one of the things I learned
0:16:11.459,0:16:16.079
years ago and you know you and I talk
0:16:13.320,0:16:18.540
about it all the time but
0:16:16.079,0:16:20.820
you know the first few years of hunting
0:16:18.540,0:16:22.980
you know one well even after I killed a
0:16:20.820,0:16:25.019
brother or two it was still a struggle
0:16:22.980,0:16:27.180
to kill a turkey you know and and so
0:16:25.019,0:16:28.560
before season you start you know going
0:16:27.180,0:16:30.720
out in the mornings and listening and
0:16:28.560,0:16:32.880
and watching turkeys and you start going
0:16:30.720,0:16:34.920
man that bird he goes that field every
0:16:32.880,0:16:36.720
morning right you know or he's got up on
0:16:34.920,0:16:38.940
that Ridge every morning because he's
0:16:36.720,0:16:42.000
not been bumped right and it's like okay
0:16:38.940,0:16:43.380
I'm when I scale I'm not gonna go in
0:16:42.000,0:16:46.199
there and bother that turkey I'm gonna
0:16:43.380,0:16:48.420
stay way back here away from him and uh
0:16:46.199,0:16:51.240
and when it comes time Scout from afar
0:16:48.420,0:16:53.399
yeah from afar just like you know hey
0:16:51.240,0:16:56.220
guys do it out West all the time on big
0:16:53.399,0:16:58.440
game animals it's the same Concepts uh
0:16:56.220,0:17:00.779
but I'm gonna Scout from afar
0:16:58.440,0:17:02.579
and that bird man he really likes that
0:17:00.779,0:17:04.140
little corner of that field well I don't
0:17:02.579,0:17:05.880
you know and and all of a sudden you
0:17:04.140,0:17:06.900
start putting it together and you get in
0:17:05.880,0:17:08.220
that corner of that field where that
0:17:06.900,0:17:10.740
Bird's comfortable
0:17:08.220,0:17:12.179
and man you talk about so much easier to
0:17:10.740,0:17:14.339
call him to a spot where he's
0:17:12.179,0:17:16.620
comfortable and uses on a regular basis
0:17:14.339,0:17:18.480
as opposed to trying to call him 300
0:17:16.620,0:17:20.520
yards across that field to a spot that
0:17:18.480,0:17:22.500
he usually don't go that's it that's
0:17:20.520,0:17:24.059
exactly right you gotta you know get in
0:17:22.500,0:17:26.459
there and get the Scout and keep tabs on
0:17:24.059,0:17:28.799
work or Birds yeah gobble from where
0:17:26.459,0:17:30.840
they Roost at or they gobble from keep
0:17:28.799,0:17:32.820
track or they want to fly off the roost
0:17:30.840,0:17:35.280
you know waking up in the morning and
0:17:32.820,0:17:37.440
time to go be a turkey keep tabs on
0:17:35.280,0:17:39.419
where they fly to and then the next
0:17:37.440,0:17:41.700
thing is we're you know or them hens and
0:17:39.419,0:17:43.620
gobblers like to to
0:17:41.700,0:17:46.380
feed up you know walk off to start
0:17:43.620,0:17:48.140
feeding uh strut zones all that type of
0:17:46.380,0:17:50.940
stuff tie all that stuff together to
0:17:48.140,0:17:53.100
really increase your odds on a on a big
0:17:50.940,0:17:55.559
old gobbler and you know when something
0:17:53.100,0:17:58.260
else John you know we learned over the
0:17:55.559,0:18:00.660
years is uh you'd go deer on a farm and
0:17:58.260,0:18:02.100
it'd be full of turkeys you know you'd
0:18:00.660,0:18:03.840
see turkeys every time you deer on it
0:18:02.100,0:18:05.940
yeah well you'd show up in the spring
0:18:03.840,0:18:08.160
and there wouldn't be a turkey on the
0:18:05.940,0:18:09.360
place and and you think man this place
0:18:08.160,0:18:11.580
ought to have turkeys all over it well
0:18:09.360,0:18:13.200
you're scouting you know there's Farms
0:18:11.580,0:18:15.120
that in the fall will hold Birds but
0:18:13.200,0:18:16.860
come spring those birds aren't there
0:18:15.120,0:18:17.940
they move off the different because you
0:18:16.860,0:18:20.880
know maybe they don't have the nesting
0:18:17.940,0:18:22.799
habitat or or even brooding Habitat to
0:18:20.880,0:18:25.140
raise their little ones and or the food
0:18:22.799,0:18:27.539
sources change that sort of thing and uh
0:18:25.140,0:18:29.280
you're scouting guess what it'll say
0:18:27.539,0:18:31.559
it'll save you from going to a farm they
0:18:29.280,0:18:33.780
ain't got no turkeys oh for sure and
0:18:31.559,0:18:35.460
that's when you gotta do the uh I mean
0:18:33.780,0:18:37.200
there's nothing wrong with with keeping
0:18:35.460,0:18:39.419
tabs on turkeys in the fall and winter
0:18:37.200,0:18:41.460
yeah but the bulkier you're scouting for
0:18:39.419,0:18:43.140
turkeys needs to happen right now all
0:18:41.460,0:18:45.840
right now all the way leading up to
0:18:43.140,0:18:48.120
season that's right yeah and just like
0:18:45.840,0:18:50.039
just like you said uh putting yourself
0:18:48.120,0:18:53.039
in position where a turkey feels
0:18:50.039,0:18:57.240
comfortable you can take you can take
0:18:53.039,0:19:00.480
this the best turkey collar on the
0:18:57.240,0:19:02.100
planet whoever won nationals and the
0:19:00.480,0:19:03.840
world championships this year put them
0:19:02.100,0:19:06.179
into Walmart parking lot
0:19:03.840,0:19:08.520
and then take a sorry turkey collar that
0:19:06.179,0:19:10.500
can barely squeak and Squawk on a mouth
0:19:08.520,0:19:13.140
die for him and put them right in the
0:19:10.500,0:19:15.600
spot where a bird likes to a strut zone
0:19:13.140,0:19:16.919
or they like to fly off to guess who's
0:19:15.600,0:19:19.919
gonna have the better chance killing a
0:19:16.919,0:19:21.840
bird that's right he's going that that
0:19:19.919,0:19:23.580
sorry collar is going to look like uh
0:19:21.840,0:19:25.919
going to look like a pro in the world
0:19:23.580,0:19:28.200
champion can't do nothing that's right
0:19:25.919,0:19:29.880
and I'll tell you another thing in just
0:19:28.200,0:19:32.400
in the last I don't know five or six
0:19:29.880,0:19:34.919
years I really started keying in on
0:19:32.400,0:19:37.919
while I Scout John and and you know you
0:19:34.919,0:19:39.960
have two is so if I got you know if I
0:19:37.919,0:19:41.820
got a certain piece of property and I
0:19:39.960,0:19:43.440
and I go there and there's two gobblers
0:19:41.820,0:19:45.360
you know running together on that
0:19:43.440,0:19:47.700
property and every time they see a jake
0:19:45.360,0:19:50.640
or another long beard they run them off
0:19:47.700,0:19:52.320
I I know those birds are aggressive and
0:19:50.640,0:19:55.320
so guess what when I go in there I'm
0:19:52.320,0:19:57.179
gonna have me a jack decoy yep because
0:19:55.320,0:19:59.100
you you know from your scouting you know
0:19:57.179,0:20:00.660
the demeanor of those turkeys right and
0:19:59.100,0:20:02.100
it could be the opposite it could be a
0:20:00.660,0:20:04.020
lot you might have a piece of property a
0:20:02.100,0:20:06.000
long beard that's got ran off and that's
0:20:04.020,0:20:08.880
just where he's ended up and he don't
0:20:06.000,0:20:10.559
want to fight well guess what you go on
0:20:08.880,0:20:13.140
there with just a single hand Leave the
0:20:10.559,0:20:14.940
Jack decoy at home that could determine
0:20:13.140,0:20:16.860
success on on that turkey and like I
0:20:14.940,0:20:18.600
said that's just all from from Scout
0:20:16.860,0:20:20.880
it's just learning those turkeys before
0:20:18.600,0:20:22.860
season opens up well let's uh let's
0:20:20.880,0:20:24.600
let's transition to that since you
0:20:22.860,0:20:27.600
brought that up let's talk about uh
0:20:24.600,0:20:29.160
decoys you don't talk talk about brands
0:20:27.600,0:20:31.140
or nothing like that but tell us what
0:20:29.160,0:20:33.000
your decoy spread looks like what's your
0:20:31.140,0:20:36.720
decoy setup look like as far as hens
0:20:33.000,0:20:38.760
Jakes uh bomb strutters you know tell us
0:20:36.720,0:20:41.900
what you like to run
0:20:38.760,0:20:41.900
Strutter a whole whole lot
0:20:43.679,0:20:49.440
I'm already set up is a jake decoy with
0:20:46.980,0:20:51.240
a hen on the ground in front of him and
0:20:49.440,0:20:54.480
I've gotten just in the last two to
0:20:51.240,0:20:58.799
three years I have a feeding hen as well
0:20:54.480,0:21:01.620
and I will take her and and set her I
0:20:58.799,0:21:03.780
might set her 20 20 yards just off to
0:21:01.620,0:21:06.600
the side off to the side of my spread
0:21:03.780,0:21:08.160
and uh you know if you could you know
0:21:06.600,0:21:10.140
you can actually go back and watch our
0:21:08.160,0:21:11.580
hunts from last year but last year you
0:21:10.140,0:21:14.360
know this there was a lot of jokes in
0:21:11.580,0:21:16.799
our area yep and two different occasions
0:21:14.360,0:21:19.260
turkeys that we called in they came into
0:21:16.799,0:21:21.720
our spread but they did not come in and
0:21:19.260,0:21:25.320
flog that Jake decoy but they come in
0:21:21.720,0:21:27.360
strutting and simply got between that
0:21:25.320,0:21:28.799
Jake decoy and that feed to him and just
0:21:27.360,0:21:30.900
went over to that feeding hen and
0:21:28.799,0:21:32.460
basically I don't know this but in my
0:21:30.900,0:21:36.240
head they were just trying to cut that
0:21:32.460,0:21:37.679
hen off split her off yeah right so I
0:21:36.240,0:21:38.760
think it really made a difference there
0:21:37.679,0:21:41.220
but but going back to the original
0:21:38.760,0:21:43.320
question uh Jake decoy with a hand
0:21:41.220,0:21:45.679
laying uh laying on the ground and that
0:21:43.320,0:21:49.919
feeding hen off the side is the primary
0:21:45.679,0:21:52.020
uh spread that I use but like I said I'm
0:21:49.919,0:21:53.400
not scared to maybe go with just a
0:21:52.020,0:21:54.720
single hand and I'll tell you what John
0:21:53.400,0:21:57.360
there's been times I've just stuck to
0:21:54.720,0:22:00.179
Jake out oh yeah yeah
0:21:57.360,0:22:01.559
yeah so and what what Bose talking about
0:22:00.179,0:22:03.539
when he's talking about is Jake it's
0:22:01.559,0:22:05.760
like a it's like a half strut or
0:22:03.539,0:22:08.340
three-quarter strut Jake is what it is
0:22:05.760,0:22:11.179
and and me and me and Bo have actually
0:22:08.340,0:22:15.299
run that style of spread for years
0:22:11.179,0:22:16.980
several years and uh just to reiterate
0:22:15.299,0:22:19.200
that you know what we're doing is taking
0:22:16.980,0:22:21.120
that half strut three-quarter Jake
0:22:19.200,0:22:22.559
and we use it set them pretty close I
0:22:21.120,0:22:26.039
don't know if we're lazy or what we
0:22:22.559,0:22:28.140
don't take them out yeah 12-15 yards but
0:22:26.039,0:22:29.820
we're gonna put that Jake out there and
0:22:28.140,0:22:31.320
then we're gonna take a hen like an
0:22:29.820,0:22:32.460
upright him but we're not putting a
0:22:31.320,0:22:34.200
stake in the ground we're just putting
0:22:32.460,0:22:36.360
it in straight on the ground just like
0:22:34.200,0:22:39.000
she's she's laid down there ready for
0:22:36.360,0:22:40.919
that uh that Jake to breed and then
0:22:39.000,0:22:42.600
we're taking just a feeding hen and just
0:22:40.919,0:22:45.480
kind of putting it off to the side left
0:22:42.600,0:22:47.220
to right just pretty much uh how you
0:22:45.480,0:22:49.799
actually place them out there as far as
0:22:47.220,0:22:51.900
distance from you angles and where you
0:22:49.799,0:22:55.440
put that feeder hen off to the side and
0:22:51.900,0:22:57.659
actually how you uh place the Jake
0:22:55.440,0:23:00.059
itself has to do with where you've got
0:22:57.659,0:23:01.320
that bird Roost to death or your bird is
0:23:00.059,0:23:02.640
gobbling at and how he's going to
0:23:01.320,0:23:04.799
approach because a lot of times I've
0:23:02.640,0:23:06.480
noticed bow and and I know you've
0:23:04.799,0:23:08.820
noticed this as well just make sure I'm
0:23:06.480,0:23:10.260
right A lot of times if that Bird's
0:23:08.820,0:23:12.000
gonna come up there and whoop up on that
0:23:10.260,0:23:13.919
Jake he usually comes from the back side
0:23:12.000,0:23:15.419
of it he don't come right towards the
0:23:13.919,0:23:18.299
head of it he comes towards the tail end
0:23:15.419,0:23:19.919
of it you know years ago if you remember
0:23:18.299,0:23:21.419
reading you know Heckle used to read
0:23:19.919,0:23:22.740
articles and stuff about turkey hunting
0:23:21.419,0:23:24.120
and they always talked about how he
0:23:22.740,0:23:26.700
would come to the front of it and I'm
0:23:24.120,0:23:28.919
and I'm like you so often I see that
0:23:26.700,0:23:30.480
bird come up from behind him you're
0:23:28.919,0:23:31.860
right and then come in front of but yeah
0:23:30.480,0:23:34.020
he'll approaching that back you're
0:23:31.860,0:23:36.240
exactly right yeah I actually like to
0:23:34.020,0:23:38.700
set that Jake where wherever I think
0:23:36.240,0:23:41.340
that Bird's gonna come to I want him to
0:23:38.700,0:23:43.320
either see the side profile that Jake or
0:23:41.340,0:23:45.360
see the back end of it I don't want to
0:23:43.320,0:23:48.240
have to walk make a circle to come
0:23:45.360,0:23:49.860
around it yeah yeah and you know one
0:23:48.240,0:23:51.179
thing I'll add to that real quick and it
0:23:49.860,0:23:52.919
really wasn't to do with your question
0:23:51.179,0:23:54.120
but one thing especially if there's
0:23:52.919,0:23:56.700
anybody going to listen to sort of new
0:23:54.120,0:23:58.919
into turkey hunting uh that feeding hen
0:23:56.700,0:24:00.780
something to think about is you know or
0:23:58.919,0:24:02.700
this is what I do and you might add
0:24:00.780,0:24:04.799
something to it you know I put that
0:24:02.700,0:24:05.940
feeding hand off to the side of
0:24:04.799,0:24:08.039
depending on if you're right or
0:24:05.940,0:24:09.600
left-handed where you can swing to her
0:24:08.039,0:24:11.400
you know you don't want to put her to
0:24:09.600,0:24:13.980
the side where you can't swing and now
0:24:11.400,0:24:15.780
you a bird circles in and you're sort of
0:24:13.980,0:24:17.640
you know locked down so think about
0:24:15.780,0:24:19.740
whenever you put your decoys out think
0:24:17.640,0:24:22.740
about okay I can swing right or I can
0:24:19.740,0:24:24.780
swing left so uh it just like again
0:24:22.740,0:24:25.980
going back to success that those little
0:24:24.780,0:24:27.840
things could really make a difference
0:24:25.980,0:24:29.760
and it and throwing one over your
0:24:27.840,0:24:31.500
shoulder and not yeah and that that
0:24:29.760,0:24:34.559
really has to do you know we're talking
0:24:31.500,0:24:36.840
about that type of stuff what it really
0:24:34.559,0:24:39.780
has to do with is how many Jakes you got
0:24:36.840,0:24:41.580
in your area like Bo said uh let's back
0:24:39.780,0:24:43.080
it up two or three years we didn't have
0:24:41.580,0:24:45.299
as good a hatches and there wouldn't be
0:24:43.080,0:24:47.460
these big group you know I call them
0:24:45.299,0:24:49.620
gangs of Jakes you know if you start
0:24:47.460,0:24:52.260
getting these groups three four five six
0:24:49.620,0:24:53.700
and even bigger groups of Jakes they
0:24:52.260,0:24:54.960
they're looking for fights you know
0:24:53.700,0:24:56.700
they'll usually run around and they're
0:24:54.960,0:24:58.440
whipping up every time it'll gobble or
0:24:56.700,0:25:00.960
struts you know they're they're bad news
0:24:58.440,0:25:02.820
and so a lot of times when you do have a
0:25:00.960,0:25:04.860
lot of Jakes especially these bigger
0:25:02.820,0:25:07.140
group of Jakes that are pretty mean
0:25:04.860,0:25:09.480
a lot of times you Tom's arna's vocal
0:25:07.140,0:25:12.720
and if they do come into a decoy spread
0:25:09.480,0:25:14.400
they can be a little iffy with that Jake
0:25:12.720,0:25:15.539
you know they're afraid of the rest of
0:25:14.400,0:25:16.799
the bunches there and they're gonna get
0:25:15.539,0:25:18.000
whooped up on so that's what he's
0:25:16.799,0:25:19.740
talking about they'll come in and
0:25:18.000,0:25:21.059
they'll actually still come into the
0:25:19.740,0:25:22.799
spread but they're not coming in there
0:25:21.059,0:25:25.799
to whoop that Jake decoy they're coming
0:25:22.799,0:25:27.960
to split off that feeder hand to take
0:25:25.799,0:25:29.580
her off somewhere but they're wanting to
0:25:27.960,0:25:31.500
cut her out of there and just take her
0:25:29.580,0:25:34.020
off and not not have no altercation or
0:25:31.500,0:25:35.880
not bring no more attention on it but if
0:25:34.020,0:25:37.380
you Jake numbers are low or even if
0:25:35.880,0:25:39.659
they're not low you just don't have a
0:25:37.380,0:25:41.880
big gang of them on your property that
0:25:39.659,0:25:43.740
you're hunting boy on it when that long
0:25:41.880,0:25:46.679
beer comes in there he's gonna come he's
0:25:43.740,0:25:48.600
gonna put a spur on that Jake decoy he's
0:25:46.679,0:25:50.279
going to be biting its head he's going
0:25:48.600,0:25:53.760
to be flogging it with these wings I
0:25:50.279,0:25:55.140
mean it's a spectacle yes yeah that gets
0:25:53.760,0:25:57.659
me excited just thinking about that I
0:25:55.140,0:26:00.779
mean hey Bo I don't know how many Toms
0:25:57.659,0:26:02.520
we have shot off the top of a jake decoy
0:26:00.779,0:26:05.820
I'm talking about standing on a jake
0:26:02.520,0:26:07.559
decoy yeah yeah yeah that's what I said
0:26:05.820,0:26:09.360
a minute ago I'm telling you that's I
0:26:07.559,0:26:10.860
use I don't know 10 years ago I said
0:26:09.360,0:26:12.659
there's no way I'd just put a jake out
0:26:10.860,0:26:15.659
by myself but a jake decoy can be really
0:26:12.659,0:26:18.179
effective if he's right yeah and the
0:26:15.659,0:26:20.400
only the only other type of decoy spread
0:26:18.179,0:26:23.100
that me and Beau have run in the past
0:26:20.400,0:26:24.720
and I you know I still run uh every once
0:26:23.100,0:26:27.179
while and it depends on
0:26:24.720,0:26:29.340
what type of turkeys I'm hunting whether
0:26:27.179,0:26:30.779
it's big if there's groups of times like
0:26:29.340,0:26:33.179
there's like a group of three or four
0:26:30.779,0:26:34.980
times or single Toms or if there's Jakes
0:26:33.179,0:26:37.740
in the area all that stuff kind of play
0:26:34.980,0:26:39.779
comes into play but one thing I'll do I
0:26:37.740,0:26:42.000
will substitute that half strut
0:26:39.779,0:26:44.520
three-quarter strut Jake for a full
0:26:42.000,0:26:46.200
Strutter but yeah the thing I do
0:26:44.520,0:26:48.659
different than a lot of people does with
0:26:46.200,0:26:51.419
the full Strutter my Strutter is
0:26:48.659,0:26:53.700
actually still to Jake he's a it's a
0:26:51.419,0:26:55.740
jake body it's a it's actually a jake
0:26:53.700,0:26:57.600
full struck decoy got it it's a smaller
0:26:55.740,0:27:00.000
body decoy it's got a little video
0:26:57.600,0:27:02.400
stubby beard sticking out but what I do
0:27:00.000,0:27:05.640
different is I don't put a jake fan in
0:27:02.400,0:27:08.340
it I still put a full Tom fan in it so
0:27:05.640,0:27:10.559
what it what it makes out to be is just
0:27:08.340,0:27:14.520
a subordinate Tom it's a little bitty
0:27:10.559,0:27:16.320
yeah it's a little bitty body Tom with a
0:27:14.520,0:27:18.600
you know good Tail fan and something
0:27:16.320,0:27:20.159
about that little setup there usually
0:27:18.600,0:27:21.900
drives the turkeys pretty wild and
0:27:20.159,0:27:23.760
you're usually shooting a shooting a
0:27:21.900,0:27:25.380
gobbler right off the top of him yeah
0:27:23.760,0:27:28.500
that and the thing about that the
0:27:25.380,0:27:30.000
equipment when it works it works not to
0:27:28.500,0:27:32.039
go down up and do a bunch of stories and
0:27:30.000,0:27:33.900
all that stuff but man you can't mention
0:27:32.039,0:27:36.480
a full Shredder without that me thing
0:27:33.900,0:27:38.779
the first thought I have is is Merle
0:27:36.480,0:27:41.580
that bird to come running
0:27:38.779,0:27:43.380
it was as pretty as I mean you couldn't
0:27:41.580,0:27:45.600
draw it up no better and he missed that
0:27:43.380,0:27:47.880
turkey I I still laugh at that all the
0:27:45.600,0:27:49.620
time yeah he's he's slick missed him
0:27:47.880,0:27:51.960
after that bird whooped up on it he got
0:27:49.620,0:27:54.299
the he got got the fever that's for sure
0:27:51.960,0:27:56.279
but I tell you what my favorite spot to
0:27:54.299,0:27:57.900
put them out is when you do have a group
0:27:56.279,0:28:01.020
of gobblers you know everybody gets in
0:27:57.900,0:28:02.580
those uh I got a single Tom somewhere
0:28:01.020,0:28:04.799
I'll usually use the half strut
0:28:02.580,0:28:07.919
three-quarter strut Jake but if I've got
0:28:04.799,0:28:10.200
a group if it's two three four Birds I'm
0:28:07.919,0:28:11.640
gonna put that full Strutter out uh they
0:28:10.200,0:28:13.380
usually won't tolerate that they're
0:28:11.640,0:28:15.299
going to come you know you still gotta
0:28:13.380,0:28:17.100
call that bird in but if you can call
0:28:15.299,0:28:18.960
them in or they see that decoy spread
0:28:17.100,0:28:21.240
it's over they're going to come look up
0:28:18.960,0:28:22.799
on it and one thing it reminds me of is
0:28:21.240,0:28:24.960
that second season of strutting in the
0:28:22.799,0:28:26.760
Bluegrass on open the morning we'd set
0:28:24.960,0:28:27.900
up on four times that we had roosted the
0:28:26.760,0:28:30.600
morning before
0:28:27.900,0:28:34.559
or the evening before and what happened
0:28:30.600,0:28:38.580
you uh we had uh ended up having one Tom
0:28:34.559,0:28:40.620
standing on or uh hen that we had on the
0:28:38.580,0:28:42.900
ground breeding it and then we had
0:28:40.620,0:28:44.940
another Tom standing on uh oh Ricky
0:28:42.900,0:28:47.400
Bobby that's what we nicknamed it decoy
0:28:44.940,0:28:49.980
I'm standing on top of that on that four
0:28:47.400,0:28:51.840
strut decoy yeah that was crazy but like
0:28:49.980,0:28:53.520
you said that group of gobblers and it
0:28:51.840,0:28:56.039
go back you know goes back to scouting
0:28:53.520,0:28:57.179
we knew that those four long Bears ran
0:28:56.039,0:28:58.620
in there and when they came in that
0:28:57.179,0:29:00.419
filter he ends and there stood that
0:28:58.620,0:29:03.179
other Strutter I mean they marched right
0:29:00.419,0:29:06.659
to him yeah it was pretty yeah pretty
0:29:03.179,0:29:08.279
memorable hunt right there yeah Let's uh
0:29:06.659,0:29:10.200
let's go back we talked about the Scout
0:29:08.279,0:29:12.299
and we've talked about our decoy spreads
0:29:10.200,0:29:14.460
and stuff like that now
0:29:12.299,0:29:15.840
you know talking about setting up on
0:29:14.460,0:29:17.159
roosted birds there a little bit you
0:29:15.840,0:29:18.779
know we just talked about that but what
0:29:17.159,0:29:20.399
about what about these pieces of
0:29:18.779,0:29:22.440
property that maybe you didn't get to
0:29:20.399,0:29:24.299
scout you know a lot of people's got got
0:29:22.440,0:29:26.580
a pretty heavy work schedule and they
0:29:24.299,0:29:29.039
can't just go out and Scout like some
0:29:26.580,0:29:30.299
other people can what about that uh
0:29:29.039,0:29:32.279
hunting ground that you haven't made
0:29:30.299,0:29:33.779
them Scout too much or just that running
0:29:32.279,0:29:36.059
and gunning style hunting you want to
0:29:33.779,0:29:37.679
talk about that a little bit yeah no
0:29:36.059,0:29:39.659
no because you're right all over work
0:29:37.679,0:29:40.940
for Foxpro and get to and get to scout
0:29:39.659,0:29:43.080
every day
0:29:40.940,0:29:47.640
some of us have to keep the world going
0:29:43.080,0:29:49.620
John but as uh you're right you're the
0:29:47.640,0:29:51.539
vast majority you know it's hard it's
0:29:49.620,0:29:54.240
got a whole lot idiots uh because it
0:29:51.539,0:29:55.799
does take time uh and and you know John
0:29:54.240,0:29:57.779
even with all the scouting you've done
0:29:55.799,0:30:00.059
before you know before season and myself
0:29:57.779,0:30:01.559
still you get in the season you you
0:30:00.059,0:30:03.000
think hey man we ain't hit that piece of
0:30:01.559,0:30:04.260
property let's go try it or you know a
0:30:03.000,0:30:05.700
lot of people hunting puppies around
0:30:04.260,0:30:08.460
they may strike out on a new piece of
0:30:05.700,0:30:10.380
public ground uh well and other things
0:30:08.460,0:30:12.899
like if you might do all the scouting in
0:30:10.380,0:30:15.659
the world to try to make it all come
0:30:12.899,0:30:18.419
together on opening morning and
0:30:15.659,0:30:20.520
you know you turkey doesn't cooperate it
0:30:18.419,0:30:23.580
though right that's right but you know
0:30:20.520,0:30:25.919
hands drag him off Coyote team whatever
0:30:23.580,0:30:28.500
happens right and you got to get a plan
0:30:25.919,0:30:30.899
that's exactly right so last year you
0:30:28.500,0:30:32.520
know I hunted a a piece of property that
0:30:30.899,0:30:34.020
I'd never hunted before and actually
0:30:32.520,0:30:38.399
didn't get permission to hunt it until
0:30:34.020,0:30:40.080
the Sunday before season opened uh and
0:30:38.399,0:30:41.460
then like you said that week during work
0:30:40.080,0:30:42.899
it was hard to get down there so
0:30:41.460,0:30:45.480
literally the first time I ever stepped
0:30:42.899,0:30:47.580
foot on it was the day before season and
0:30:45.480,0:30:50.039
uh beautiful piece of property like I
0:30:47.580,0:30:52.620
said it never scouted it and basically
0:30:50.039,0:30:54.899
you know looked at it on a you know from
0:30:52.620,0:30:56.640
one of the you know property apps where
0:30:54.899,0:31:00.299
you can look at uh you know the lay of
0:30:56.640,0:31:02.520
the land look at Google Earth and uh and
0:31:00.299,0:31:04.200
notice the different attributes of it
0:31:02.520,0:31:06.480
sort of the ridge tops and where a
0:31:04.200,0:31:09.179
couple Fields were and and things of
0:31:06.480,0:31:11.039
that nature and and as I hunt as I
0:31:09.179,0:31:13.080
approached that property John I know I
0:31:11.039,0:31:15.000
had an idea it was going to be good so I
0:31:13.080,0:31:17.640
did not go in there just guns of Blazing
0:31:15.000,0:31:19.140
and running all over the place
0:31:17.640,0:31:20.640
started out and hunted it very
0:31:19.140,0:31:22.440
conservative
0:31:20.640,0:31:24.960
um sort of middle property and just
0:31:22.440,0:31:26.760
listen and there was the first didn't
0:31:24.960,0:31:28.080
hunt the first day but went down there
0:31:26.760,0:31:30.480
the evening and in one of those little
0:31:28.080,0:31:33.120
Fields a bird was gobbling so sort of
0:31:30.480,0:31:35.640
made note of it and uh went back the
0:31:33.120,0:31:36.899
second day and got on some turkeys but
0:31:35.640,0:31:39.000
couldn't do nothing with them but again
0:31:36.899,0:31:41.159
back in that there was a corner where
0:31:39.000,0:31:42.960
there's a little pasture feel and I
0:31:41.159,0:31:45.299
heard of bird gobble like two times back
0:31:42.960,0:31:47.159
there so now again putting a pattern
0:31:45.299,0:31:48.779
together we said hey a couple different
0:31:47.159,0:31:50.940
times we've been here back there on that
0:31:48.779,0:31:52.919
corner there's a bit of bird Goblin well
0:31:50.940,0:31:57.120
this there was this particular property
0:31:52.919,0:31:59.100
another individual could hunt it so
0:31:57.120,0:32:01.020
went in there to hunting on Monday
0:31:59.100,0:32:03.419
morning and the guy drove his truck
0:32:01.020,0:32:05.100
across the field literally sitting there
0:32:03.419,0:32:08.100
with decoys out and the man drove his
0:32:05.100,0:32:09.600
truck across the field okay so he said
0:32:08.100,0:32:12.120
all right let's give him a break but
0:32:09.600,0:32:14.480
what we did we had another day we
0:32:12.120,0:32:17.460
slipped down there middle of the day uh
0:32:14.480,0:32:19.679
and said let's go back there let's slip
0:32:17.460,0:32:21.659
in to that seat to that little pasture
0:32:19.679,0:32:23.580
field let's get back in there and get
0:32:21.659,0:32:24.899
set up and we'll just do some blind
0:32:23.580,0:32:28.080
calling and we'll see if we can't get
0:32:24.899,0:32:30.659
that thing going that bird going and so
0:32:28.080,0:32:33.360
as we went in we took our time really
0:32:30.659,0:32:35.220
slow uh you know and listening and
0:32:33.360,0:32:39.480
watching and was able to sneak into that
0:32:35.220,0:32:41.700
pasture field and get set up and uh John
0:32:39.480,0:32:44.640
we what we you know rap I don't know I
0:32:41.700,0:32:46.919
think I called one time no response
0:32:44.640,0:32:50.580
um in about 15 minutes later on his own
0:32:46.919,0:32:52.320
bird gobbles on his own nice and and I
0:32:50.580,0:32:53.940
said okay so you know I don't know that
0:32:52.320,0:32:56.340
he heard us before or maybe he just got
0:32:53.940,0:32:59.220
by himself or what's going on but he's
0:32:56.340,0:33:02.460
not far called to him I think cut to him
0:32:59.220,0:33:04.440
and ran a set of Yelps at him and uh it
0:33:02.460,0:33:05.940
was uh you know it was a matter of
0:33:04.440,0:33:08.399
minutes and that bird was standing in
0:33:05.940,0:33:09.899
front of us on our decoys but but again
0:33:08.399,0:33:11.580
it goes back we'd never been on that
0:33:09.899,0:33:13.140
property sort of look at it like I said
0:33:11.580,0:33:15.720
on Google Earth just look at how the
0:33:13.140,0:33:17.220
land laid uh went into it conservative
0:33:15.720,0:33:19.140
didn't go running all over the place
0:33:17.220,0:33:22.919
didn't go out walking every Ridge Top
0:33:19.140,0:33:25.799
you know uh and just sort of scouted as
0:33:22.919,0:33:27.539
we hunted to be honest right and uh and
0:33:25.799,0:33:29.340
learned it as we went and but like I
0:33:27.539,0:33:30.600
said a couple trips in just paying
0:33:29.340,0:33:32.760
attention to what that bird was doing
0:33:30.600,0:33:36.600
and and had him dead was that a couple
0:33:32.760,0:33:38.519
times right so so I'm not I you know I
0:33:36.600,0:33:40.799
don't want to say I'm super conservative
0:33:38.519,0:33:42.480
turkent I like to move and I like to you
0:33:40.799,0:33:44.820
know get after them I don't like to deer
0:33:42.480,0:33:46.320
hunt them but but at the same time if I
0:33:44.820,0:33:47.640
know I got a piece of property that
0:33:46.320,0:33:48.960
could be decent I'm not going to go on
0:33:47.640,0:33:51.539
there and ruin it I'm going to take my
0:33:48.960,0:33:54.120
time with it right right and you I think
0:33:51.539,0:33:56.580
that's a good point doing some scouting
0:33:54.120,0:33:59.220
with with maps iconx maps and stuff like
0:33:56.580,0:34:01.200
that to help you learn layer the lay of
0:33:59.220,0:34:03.240
the land and finding places where you
0:34:01.200,0:34:04.860
think turkey like might like to frequent
0:34:03.240,0:34:06.720
and it helps you put a plant plan
0:34:04.860,0:34:08.820
together uh you get that playing
0:34:06.720,0:34:11.280
together you come in and just start you
0:34:08.820,0:34:13.619
know come in on the property let out
0:34:11.280,0:34:15.659
some Yelps cut at them whatever see if
0:34:13.619,0:34:18.359
you can get a bird to strike nothing
0:34:15.659,0:34:19.919
happens move however far you think you
0:34:18.359,0:34:21.780
can before you need to call again just
0:34:19.919,0:34:24.300
see if you can't get one get one going
0:34:21.780,0:34:26.220
once you get a bird struck if he's in a
0:34:24.300,0:34:28.200
spot that you think you can get on him
0:34:26.220,0:34:29.820
pour it to him you know I think it's one
0:34:28.200,0:34:31.260
of those things you know if it's just
0:34:29.820,0:34:33.540
because you strike a bird doesn't mean
0:34:31.260,0:34:35.220
you need to go in there and just if you
0:34:33.540,0:34:37.020
know it's not going to work yep don't
0:34:35.220,0:34:39.359
pressure you I mean Drive some other
0:34:37.020,0:34:41.099
time that's a great point but yeah
0:34:39.359,0:34:42.599
running and gunning hunting can be a lot
0:34:41.099,0:34:44.760
of fun especially you know there's
0:34:42.599,0:34:46.200
nothing better you you go on to us to a
0:34:44.760,0:34:48.839
place and say you're you're wanting to
0:34:46.200,0:34:50.760
work this Ridge it looks really good and
0:34:48.839,0:34:52.440
you you get there on the property and
0:34:50.760,0:34:54.540
you let out some calls nothing answers
0:34:52.440,0:34:57.480
back you go on in there a few hundred
0:34:54.540,0:34:59.280
yards try it again nothing walk another
0:34:57.480,0:35:02.160
couple hundred yards
0:34:59.280,0:35:03.540
let out a few Yips nothing then you cut
0:35:02.160,0:35:04.740
at him get a little bit more serious and
0:35:03.540,0:35:05.960
all of a sudden he cuts you off with
0:35:04.740,0:35:09.720
that double
0:35:05.960,0:35:11.880
yes James on son I mean that's that's a
0:35:09.720,0:35:13.380
great feeling right there and that's a
0:35:11.880,0:35:15.060
great Point what you do what you just
0:35:13.380,0:35:17.640
made because there's a couple things to
0:35:15.060,0:35:19.200
that is you know it's it's easy to go to
0:35:17.640,0:35:20.940
a property and call one time and nothing
0:35:19.200,0:35:22.859
there so I ain't nothing here but like
0:35:20.940,0:35:25.260
you said if the property if the land
0:35:22.859,0:35:27.420
lays where you can move some
0:35:25.260,0:35:29.520
that means simply you don't think it but
0:35:27.420,0:35:31.200
you might move 200 yards and it make all
0:35:29.520,0:35:32.280
the difference in how that bird hears
0:35:31.200,0:35:34.200
you and
0:35:32.280,0:35:35.579
who's to say he didn't answer you the
0:35:34.200,0:35:38.280
first time with Laya land you just
0:35:35.579,0:35:40.200
didn't hear him right uh but but yeah
0:35:38.280,0:35:41.460
you know like you said going back to
0:35:40.200,0:35:43.740
running and gun and if you take your
0:35:41.460,0:35:45.060
time don't be crazy with it uh and
0:35:43.740,0:35:48.119
slipping out a ridge like that and
0:35:45.060,0:35:49.980
cutting at them uh you can easily strike
0:35:48.119,0:35:52.440
a bird and uh
0:35:49.980,0:35:53.760
and and having almost run over top of
0:35:52.440,0:35:56.160
you but like you said that's a great
0:35:53.760,0:35:58.260
point you made about if it's just
0:35:56.160,0:35:59.940
because he gobbles does not mean you
0:35:58.260,0:36:02.099
have to go in there and try to try to
0:35:59.940,0:36:04.140
kill him if his setup's not right don't
0:36:02.099,0:36:06.359
ruin it yeah they can they can become so
0:36:04.140,0:36:07.740
call Shy call shy so easily there ain't
0:36:06.359,0:36:10.200
no seats trying to force something ain't
0:36:07.740,0:36:11.339
gonna work that's right well tell us
0:36:10.200,0:36:14.280
about uh
0:36:11.339,0:36:17.640
not all states allow this but our state
0:36:14.280,0:36:19.560
of Kentucky uh you can hunt all day you
0:36:17.640,0:36:20.880
can hunt afternoons yeah some places you
0:36:19.560,0:36:23.940
can only hunt mornings but for people
0:36:20.880,0:36:26.640
that can hunt afternoons uh when you
0:36:23.940,0:36:29.000
think about afternoon uh turkey hunting
0:36:26.640,0:36:31.560
and you know I've gotten to where I I
0:36:29.000,0:36:34.560
really each year I enjoy it a little
0:36:31.560,0:36:37.140
more to be honest uh and and don't get
0:36:34.560,0:36:38.339
me wrong at daylight I want to be out
0:36:37.140,0:36:39.780
there just because I think it's special
0:36:38.339,0:36:41.339
just being in the Spring Woods at
0:36:39.780,0:36:43.680
daylight when when everything wakes up
0:36:41.339,0:36:46.079
and turkeys are gobbling on the lamb uh
0:36:43.680,0:36:47.520
but but I've gotten where I really enjoy
0:36:46.079,0:36:49.200
the afternoon hunt in the middle of the
0:36:47.520,0:36:51.020
afternoon hunting even even the later
0:36:49.200,0:36:53.700
you know hunting of the of the evening
0:36:51.020,0:36:55.200
uh but one of my favorite times in the
0:36:53.700,0:36:56.880
middle of the day especially as our
0:36:55.200,0:36:59.280
season progresses and those gobblers
0:36:56.880,0:37:01.079
start to lose their hands you take 10 11
0:36:59.280,0:37:04.440
o'clock you know they start losing hens
0:37:01.079,0:37:05.880
and striking one another day but as far
0:37:04.440,0:37:07.740
as you know late afternoon and evening
0:37:05.880,0:37:11.040
one of the things I've gotten to wear
0:37:07.740,0:37:13.980
the way I hunt that John is and you you
0:37:11.040,0:37:16.560
know this uh you might have an area
0:37:13.980,0:37:18.060
where a gobbler he flies down with hands
0:37:16.560,0:37:19.800
in the woods or something and you can't
0:37:18.060,0:37:20.940
do nothing with them but but all of a
0:37:19.800,0:37:22.440
sudden you know as you hunt you just
0:37:20.940,0:37:24.480
like a couple a couple after bones in a
0:37:22.440,0:37:26.339
rower like Holly that bird you know he's
0:37:24.480,0:37:30.300
come to that field two or three evenings
0:37:26.339,0:37:31.560
in a row now and uh and so basically
0:37:30.300,0:37:32.880
especially you get a day with the Sun
0:37:31.560,0:37:34.079
out and it's pretty warm they're not
0:37:32.880,0:37:36.000
gonna be in the fields you know with it
0:37:34.079,0:37:38.339
really warm slipping their middle of the
0:37:36.000,0:37:40.560
afternoon whenever you know he's not in
0:37:38.339,0:37:43.200
the field and and whether using decoys
0:37:40.560,0:37:44.640
or not uh and then that late when that
0:37:43.200,0:37:47.339
you know the Shadows start getting in
0:37:44.640,0:37:48.839
that field uh it's very common all of a
0:37:47.339,0:37:49.980
sudden here all of a sudden he steps in
0:37:48.839,0:37:52.079
the field and
0:37:49.980,0:37:54.240
and then you can have a great hunt by
0:37:52.079,0:37:56.400
you know by hunting late in the day yep
0:37:54.240,0:37:59.099
yep you may you made a good point when
0:37:56.400,0:38:01.440
it gets when it gets warm in the spring
0:37:59.099,0:38:03.480
the sun's beating down them old gobblers
0:38:01.440,0:38:06.180
get hot they like to clean the Shadows
0:38:03.480,0:38:08.160
to the shade right and and you know
0:38:06.180,0:38:09.960
until you know going on that you know
0:38:08.160,0:38:11.880
most people know but if you're new to it
0:38:09.960,0:38:13.859
you take a rainy day birds are gonna go
0:38:11.880,0:38:15.000
to the fields but but the E like you
0:38:13.859,0:38:16.140
said going back you know going back to
0:38:15.000,0:38:17.339
the original question the afternoon's
0:38:16.140,0:38:19.740
evening I've gotten to where I really
0:38:17.339,0:38:21.599
enjoy the afternoon and evenings and uh
0:38:19.740,0:38:24.480
you know as as we get older I'm not
0:38:21.599,0:38:26.880
gonna lie sometimes I really enjoyed
0:38:24.480,0:38:29.579
finding a good spot to set up of an
0:38:26.880,0:38:31.440
afternoon or an evening and just sit
0:38:29.579,0:38:33.300
there and and chill out for a little bit
0:38:31.440,0:38:36.359
and call a little and just and just see
0:38:33.300,0:38:39.119
what happens right me me personally I do
0:38:36.359,0:38:41.820
like afternoon turkey hunting but uh if
0:38:39.119,0:38:44.280
it gets too late I'm not the one that
0:38:41.820,0:38:46.800
hit those fields after it gets real late
0:38:44.280,0:38:49.680
today like what you're talking about
0:38:46.800,0:38:52.740
just because my mind starts
0:38:49.680,0:38:55.500
transitioning into uh roosting that bird
0:38:52.740,0:38:59.099
yeah I can't Roost it but those early
0:38:55.500,0:39:01.260
afternoons at Mid afternoons man if you
0:38:59.099,0:39:04.619
can get a bird to if you can get a bird
0:39:01.260,0:39:06.300
to gobble after lunch yeah if you can
0:39:04.619,0:39:08.880
get put this way if you can strike a
0:39:06.300,0:39:10.680
bird one gobbles at you and then you
0:39:08.880,0:39:13.920
give him just a few seconds there or a
0:39:10.680,0:39:15.780
minute or two and you call at him again
0:39:13.920,0:39:18.660
kind of heat checking him if that bird
0:39:15.780,0:39:21.500
immediately answers you back man it's a
0:39:18.660,0:39:24.599
it's a dead Turkey right there
0:39:21.500,0:39:27.180
you better get ready yeah
0:39:24.599,0:39:29.700
I could you know you're you're exactly
0:39:27.180,0:39:31.619
right that I because I agree 100 if he
0:39:29.700,0:39:33.300
gets like you need to in my opinion
0:39:31.619,0:39:35.760
depending on how many days you got to
0:39:33.300,0:39:37.859
hunt and whether you have a place to
0:39:35.760,0:39:40.140
yourself there's factors but I'm like
0:39:37.859,0:39:43.020
you I go my mind goes to roasting but
0:39:40.140,0:39:44.820
you know my mind does go back to a bird
0:39:43.020,0:39:46.500
I killed you know the property I used to
0:39:44.820,0:39:48.839
be able to hunt behind my house you
0:39:46.500,0:39:50.400
remember that that piece big cattle farm
0:39:48.839,0:39:54.540
very wide open
0:39:50.400,0:39:56.099
uh but it had a bird that used it every
0:39:54.540,0:39:58.740
evening I would go back there that bird
0:39:56.099,0:40:00.180
was there but in the mornings he would
0:39:58.740,0:40:02.339
fly down on the neighbor with those
0:40:00.180,0:40:04.440
hands and I couldn't I couldn't hunt the
0:40:02.339,0:40:05.880
neighbor's property uh so there was no
0:40:04.440,0:40:08.099
sense of me going there and you know
0:40:05.880,0:40:11.820
calling that turkey and and getting him
0:40:08.099,0:40:13.740
used to my calling uh but so him I said
0:40:11.820,0:40:15.660
listen I can't hunt this bird of the of
0:40:13.740,0:40:18.359
the morning I have to Honey by the
0:40:15.660,0:40:21.300
evening uh and so but basically going
0:40:18.359,0:40:22.800
again on scouting that's but you know I
0:40:21.300,0:40:24.359
said okay I'm going in and we'd go in
0:40:22.800,0:40:26.940
the middle and I went in there one time
0:40:24.359,0:40:28.320
middle of the afternoon got set up and
0:40:26.940,0:40:30.119
just like clockwork like he'd always
0:40:28.320,0:40:32.880
done the evening here they come feeding
0:40:30.119,0:40:33.960
over on this cattle pasture and uh you
0:40:32.880,0:40:35.940
know as soon as he come in there and he
0:40:33.960,0:40:37.980
saw a jack decoy and called to him and
0:40:35.940,0:40:40.800
he come running and had him killed but
0:40:37.980,0:40:42.180
but uh so there's there's different you
0:40:40.800,0:40:44.099
know there's different variables each
0:40:42.180,0:40:44.820
piece of property you hunt
0:40:44.099,0:40:46.859
um
0:40:44.820,0:40:49.380
and an evening hunt could land itself
0:40:46.859,0:40:51.960
you know to be the best option for you
0:40:49.380,0:40:53.460
so absolutely don't think uh you know
0:40:51.960,0:40:54.780
turkeys don't gobble as often in the
0:40:53.460,0:40:57.000
evening so I'm not gonna hunt it might
0:40:54.780,0:40:58.380
be a it might be the time to kill a bird
0:40:57.000,0:41:00.540
on a certain piece of properties yes
0:40:58.380,0:41:03.180
that's that's for sure and maybe you
0:41:00.540,0:41:04.619
know afternoons and evenings all the
0:41:03.180,0:41:06.119
time you got to hunt maybe that's what
0:41:04.619,0:41:07.980
it tastes to fill your turkey tags
0:41:06.119,0:41:10.200
you're wanting to feel but I will say
0:41:07.980,0:41:12.320
one thing I do like killing them in the
0:41:10.200,0:41:12.320
morning
0:41:13.400,0:41:18.839
I tell you what's one of the best things
0:41:15.599,0:41:20.280
about it not you know man there's a lot
0:41:18.839,0:41:22.740
of good things about like just here in
0:41:20.280,0:41:24.900
the woods come to life and all that type
0:41:22.740,0:41:27.079
of stuff but you know I'm a I like to
0:41:24.900,0:41:29.700
eat I'm a fan of eat
0:41:27.079,0:41:33.540
I like breakfast and there's nothing
0:41:29.700,0:41:35.820
better than being say 8 30 9 o'clock
0:41:33.540,0:41:38.280
being sitting in a diner one of these
0:41:35.820,0:41:40.020
old you know greasy spoon gas stations
0:41:38.280,0:41:41.220
down here always serve breakfast be
0:41:40.020,0:41:43.260
sitting there in your camo and there's
0:41:41.220,0:41:46.200
always that one old timer or maybe two
0:41:43.260,0:41:48.660
or three of them boys y'all been out
0:41:46.200,0:41:51.300
turkey hunting oh yeah we've been
0:41:48.660,0:41:53.760
getting after them hey look it said
0:41:51.300,0:41:56.940
y'all out awful early needs to be in
0:41:53.760,0:41:59.400
there after him yeah one in the back of
0:41:56.940,0:42:02.460
the truck it's time to eat eggs over
0:41:59.400,0:42:06.000
easy bacon and toast
0:42:02.460,0:42:08.280
right you you're all over it
0:42:06.000,0:42:09.839
then you get down by turkey hunt store
0:42:08.280,0:42:11.940
you go up there and check them out yeah
0:42:09.839,0:42:14.099
I was just part of it you know I I love
0:42:11.940,0:42:16.500
everything about that turkey hunting you
0:42:14.099,0:42:19.500
know yeah it's uh it's a special season
0:42:16.500,0:42:21.660
that's for sure the old timers are fun
0:42:19.500,0:42:24.000
but I I don't know that's probably
0:42:21.660,0:42:26.040
probably wrong but I even like it too
0:42:24.000,0:42:27.720
when you all sudden Here Comes two or
0:42:26.040,0:42:30.000
three more in camo and the first thing
0:42:27.720,0:42:33.240
they say is oh you can't kill him this
0:42:30.000,0:42:35.040
morning can you ain't doing nothing
0:42:33.240,0:42:37.200
I don't know we had a pretty good
0:42:35.040,0:42:38.880
morning you know so yeah I know what
0:42:37.200,0:42:40.980
you're saying it's let me tell you
0:42:38.880,0:42:42.900
something it's that because you know how
0:42:40.980,0:42:44.220
it is you roast one and you think okay I
0:42:42.900,0:42:46.560
think I know what he's going to do and
0:42:44.220,0:42:48.000
we're gonna sit up and whenever you get
0:42:46.560,0:42:50.280
emotion you're going on next morning he
0:42:48.000,0:42:52.380
starts gobbling and that first gobble
0:42:50.280,0:42:55.200
when you know he's coming your direction
0:42:52.380,0:42:57.180
and you say okay yep yes you know he's
0:42:55.200,0:42:59.220
headed our way right off the roost it's
0:42:57.180,0:43:01.800
yeah yeah there's definitely uh key
0:42:59.220,0:43:03.420
times in turkey hunting yeah that I look
0:43:01.800,0:43:05.520
for I've already thought about for the
0:43:03.420,0:43:07.740
upcoming season the first one is is
0:43:05.520,0:43:09.180
you're sitting there in the in the dark
0:43:07.740,0:43:10.859
and
0:43:09.180,0:43:13.560
you're starting to see a little bit more
0:43:10.859,0:43:15.359
birds start waking up start songbirds
0:43:13.560,0:43:17.280
get to chirping and singing and carrying
0:43:15.359,0:43:19.680
on and you're sitting there thinking
0:43:17.280,0:43:21.599
man I hope I sit up in the right spot I
0:43:19.680,0:43:24.420
I know I roosted this birdie should just
0:43:21.599,0:43:25.920
be like 100 150 yards 200 yards right
0:43:24.420,0:43:27.180
over here to the right I hope he's there
0:43:25.920,0:43:28.619
but I don't know and it gets a little
0:43:27.180,0:43:30.180
bit more light a little bit more light
0:43:28.619,0:43:31.619
birds are still chatter and you're
0:43:30.180,0:43:35.160
sitting there thinking
0:43:31.619,0:43:36.839
do I treat you up to him do I call man I
0:43:35.160,0:43:38.819
wish the crows would get him fired up I
0:43:36.839,0:43:40.440
wish I would hoot should I owl who you
0:43:38.819,0:43:42.900
know you're starting to get worried and
0:43:40.440,0:43:45.079
all sudden yeah yeah just out of the
0:43:42.900,0:43:45.079
blue
0:43:45.810,0:43:51.180
[Music]
0:43:48.680,0:43:52.800
you know it kind of jump starts you get
0:43:51.180,0:43:54.720
you you know will spark to your heart
0:43:52.800,0:43:56.760
and then the next part is just what you
0:43:54.720,0:43:58.680
said when you know that birds get closer
0:43:56.760,0:44:00.300
when you answered your call and he's
0:43:58.680,0:44:03.300
getting closer every time that's that
0:44:00.300,0:44:06.000
next part and I tell you what is on that
0:44:03.300,0:44:07.800
Tail fan tip of that Tail fan starts
0:44:06.000,0:44:09.300
coming over her eyes or around the
0:44:07.800,0:44:10.980
corner you're like
0:44:09.300,0:44:14.400
ain't no better siding there right there
0:44:10.980,0:44:16.380
the the Tail fan and one it always gets
0:44:14.400,0:44:18.900
me is when you see the crown of that
0:44:16.380,0:44:21.000
head when it's in the in the woods it is
0:44:18.900,0:44:22.800
as wide as a brand new baseball and when
0:44:21.000,0:44:24.480
you see that sucker come it's you and
0:44:22.800,0:44:26.520
it's just gleaming you know just glowing
0:44:24.480,0:44:29.280
in the woods that's
0:44:26.520,0:44:30.720
that's always every time I see the first
0:44:29.280,0:44:31.980
time each year when I see the crown on
0:44:30.720,0:44:34.400
one of his head come through the woods
0:44:31.980,0:44:36.720
that's what gets me yeah
0:44:34.400,0:44:38.520
well let's move on I got another
0:44:36.720,0:44:39.060
question for you here
0:44:38.520,0:44:40.859
um
0:44:39.060,0:44:42.839
what do you think are some of the
0:44:40.859,0:44:45.180
biggest mistakes that you see turkey
0:44:42.839,0:44:48.420
hunters make
0:44:45.180,0:44:50.640
uh well for one like we've talked about
0:44:48.420,0:44:53.579
already a bunch is they don't Scout they
0:44:50.640,0:44:57.540
don't put time in before season uh and
0:44:53.579,0:44:59.520
the next one is is I just my opinion I
0:44:57.540,0:45:02.940
think a lot of turkey hunters ruin their
0:44:59.520,0:45:07.200
ground they they over hunt over call
0:45:02.940,0:45:09.480
their ground uh right off the bat and
0:45:07.200,0:45:11.520
I'm telling you man it don't it if a
0:45:09.480,0:45:13.980
turkey isn't bothered
0:45:11.520,0:45:16.140
he can respond really good and he's very
0:45:13.980,0:45:17.700
killable you let a turkey get a little
0:45:16.140,0:45:18.900
bit of pressure on him get bumped once
0:45:17.700,0:45:20.720
or twice he turns into a different
0:45:18.900,0:45:23.040
animal he just does
0:45:20.720,0:45:25.500
and that's one of the biggest things and
0:45:23.040,0:45:27.900
two I don't you know John you know this
0:45:25.500,0:45:30.000
I mean Heck from the time we started the
0:45:27.900,0:45:32.400
the equipment and the gear is
0:45:30.000,0:45:33.660
good night it's so much better you look
0:45:32.400,0:45:35.220
at decoys
0:45:33.660,0:45:37.680
it's you know one of the biggest things
0:45:35.220,0:45:40.140
that's changed and and they and they
0:45:37.680,0:45:43.200
help so much but I don't think people
0:45:40.140,0:45:44.579
realize how good turkeys see right and
0:45:43.200,0:45:45.780
people think they can just set up
0:45:44.579,0:45:48.480
anywhere
0:45:45.780,0:45:50.099
them Birds they if you're if you're out
0:45:48.480,0:45:51.960
if they can get your outline your
0:45:50.099,0:45:53.640
Skyline a little bit in a finch row or
0:45:51.960,0:45:55.800
you you're set up to where that bird
0:45:53.640,0:45:57.119
sees you move just a little man it don't
0:45:55.800,0:45:59.520
take nothing to get them weary and
0:45:57.119,0:46:01.560
nervous and so I I would have to say
0:45:59.520,0:46:03.720
over hunting ground and and they're set
0:46:01.560,0:46:07.260
up not being hit in their setups right
0:46:03.720,0:46:09.119
yeah I totally agree with you and I
0:46:07.260,0:46:10.740
think probably the biggest the biggest
0:46:09.119,0:46:12.359
thing is and you know some people don't
0:46:10.740,0:46:14.460
have as much ground as others to hunt
0:46:12.359,0:46:16.200
especially if you just got one place to
0:46:14.460,0:46:18.359
hunt you kind of Gotta Throw all your
0:46:16.200,0:46:20.520
eggs in one basket but man
0:46:18.359,0:46:22.800
we've talked about it earlier if you get
0:46:20.520,0:46:23.760
on a bird and you know it's not going to
0:46:22.800,0:46:26.400
work out
0:46:23.760,0:46:28.020
don't keep hammering I think that's a I
0:46:26.400,0:46:29.040
think that's the number one thing is
0:46:28.020,0:46:31.560
being
0:46:29.040,0:46:35.339
is doing too much you got to be low
0:46:31.560,0:46:37.680
impact it's a it's a short season but at
0:46:35.339,0:46:39.540
the same time it's a long season it's a
0:46:37.680,0:46:41.220
long season that's right you don't want
0:46:39.540,0:46:43.079
to be caught up in that third week hunt
0:46:41.220,0:46:44.400
the same bird that you've messed up on
0:46:43.079,0:46:46.680
four times
0:46:44.400,0:46:48.540
he's heard you run this you know your
0:46:46.680,0:46:51.000
slate call for three weeks now that's
0:46:48.540,0:46:52.859
right he knows that he is
0:46:51.000,0:46:56.099
tell you something else you know that
0:46:52.859,0:46:59.460
you and I have seen when uh
0:46:56.099,0:47:01.140
we've hunted with other people and you
0:46:59.460,0:47:03.359
know you might go up and say you haven't
0:47:01.140,0:47:05.940
even called yet you walk in a field and
0:47:03.359,0:47:07.619
you just walk up on a gobbler and a hen
0:47:05.940,0:47:08.700
or something you bump them out of the
0:47:07.619,0:47:10.619
field
0:47:08.700,0:47:12.000
don't don't go up there and start
0:47:10.619,0:47:13.619
calling
0:47:12.000,0:47:16.500
you know what I mean because because
0:47:13.619,0:47:19.260
that that that turkey he's not a subject
0:47:16.500,0:47:21.060
yeah he's not associating you with with
0:47:19.260,0:47:23.040
danger in your turkey calling right then
0:47:21.060,0:47:24.300
he doesn't know who he didn't know if
0:47:23.040,0:47:27.180
you were you know somebody working on
0:47:24.300,0:47:28.800
the power line or the farmer you know he
0:47:27.180,0:47:30.240
don't know what you are they're just
0:47:28.800,0:47:31.800
going to ease off and probably be fine
0:47:30.240,0:47:34.200
but if you as soon as they get bumped
0:47:31.800,0:47:36.660
you start calling all of a sudden he
0:47:34.200,0:47:39.060
ties that sound he's here into 10 bucks
0:47:36.660,0:47:41.460
you know just let them Birds rest and
0:47:39.060,0:47:42.780
and by the next morning you can probably
0:47:41.460,0:47:44.940
go in there and get on him to be honest
0:47:42.780,0:47:46.560
it's like that's that's key I mean
0:47:44.940,0:47:47.940
that's that's just being Reckless when
0:47:46.560,0:47:50.640
you do that a lot of people don't think
0:47:47.940,0:47:52.800
about that yeah but that bird is spooked
0:47:50.640,0:47:53.819
if you back out everything's gonna be
0:47:52.800,0:47:55.800
all right because they're used to
0:47:53.819,0:47:57.359
getting spooked by something daily but
0:47:55.800,0:47:59.700
if you go up there and spook them and
0:47:57.359,0:48:02.160
that's I still kill him and start
0:47:59.700,0:48:04.319
cutting at him and calling yeah you hurt
0:48:02.160,0:48:06.240
yourself so bad you don't realize it but
0:48:04.319,0:48:08.099
you really hurt yourself when you hurt
0:48:06.240,0:48:09.900
yourself exactly right that's that same
0:48:08.099,0:48:11.760
thing for coyotes too that's I mean
0:48:09.900,0:48:14.280
turkeys and coyotes actually have a lot
0:48:11.760,0:48:17.040
in common when it comes to Cotton uh
0:48:14.280,0:48:20.280
they they learn quickly on stuff like
0:48:17.040,0:48:22.440
that and they become very caution and
0:48:20.280,0:48:26.040
when a turkey or a coyote becomes call
0:48:22.440,0:48:28.140
Shy they can come very very very hard to
0:48:26.040,0:48:30.359
hunt and get killed and sometimes
0:48:28.140,0:48:33.060
impossible to get killed when you're
0:48:30.359,0:48:34.920
talking about calling them up that's
0:48:33.060,0:48:36.300
right I mean and you know going back to
0:48:34.920,0:48:38.220
you know and you're right some people
0:48:36.300,0:48:39.540
don't have access to a lot of ground and
0:48:38.220,0:48:42.359
different things but John yo you
0:48:39.540,0:48:43.740
remember when we got into this you know
0:48:42.359,0:48:45.660
we didn't have a whole whole lot of
0:48:43.740,0:48:47.220
ground to hunt that had turkeys no and
0:48:45.660,0:48:48.900
and probably one of the best spots we
0:48:47.220,0:48:51.240
had to hunt was a little piece of ground
0:48:48.900,0:48:53.880
your grandpa on it what but 32 Acres
0:48:51.240,0:48:55.560
that's right and and so that's you know
0:48:53.880,0:48:56.760
and really going back to it that's one
0:48:55.560,0:48:58.740
of the times I feel like I really
0:48:56.760,0:49:00.960
learned how to become a good turkey
0:48:58.740,0:49:02.400
hunter because you you start thinking
0:49:00.960,0:49:03.660
about just like okay wait a minute now
0:49:02.400,0:49:05.940
I've got
0:49:03.660,0:49:08.280
you know I've scouted before season I've
0:49:05.940,0:49:09.960
got three turkeys I've got two tags but
0:49:08.280,0:49:12.660
I've only got three turkeys that I can
0:49:09.960,0:49:14.160
legit hunt so I have to be very smart
0:49:12.660,0:49:15.660
about this so just because you don't
0:49:14.160,0:49:17.520
have a whole lot of ground to hunt
0:49:15.660,0:49:20.099
doesn't it just means you have to hunt
0:49:17.520,0:49:22.380
smarter in my opinion yeah uh it's easy
0:49:20.099,0:49:23.819
to watch shows and stuff and talks about
0:49:22.380,0:49:26.160
running and gun and everybody likes to
0:49:23.819,0:49:27.780
run and Gun and strike one have him run
0:49:26.160,0:49:30.780
over you but if you don't have the land
0:49:27.780,0:49:33.180
that that uh you know that that aids in
0:49:30.780,0:49:35.339
that don't do it right you know you have
0:49:33.180,0:49:37.680
hunt your property's how they need to be
0:49:35.339,0:49:39.300
hunted and uh that's a that's a bit like
0:49:37.680,0:49:41.099
just going basketball that's a big
0:49:39.300,0:49:43.319
difference in success and failure and
0:49:41.099,0:49:46.440
and uh and rolling in a spot real quick
0:49:43.319,0:49:48.240
I I think that's the reason that uh some
0:49:46.440,0:49:49.680
of these public land spots it can be
0:49:48.240,0:49:52.440
good for turkey hunting you kind of get
0:49:49.680,0:49:54.720
a bad rap is because people being too
0:49:52.440,0:49:56.579
Reckless or being too aggressive yeah
0:49:54.720,0:49:59.940
you always got your newcomers to the
0:49:56.579,0:50:02.579
sports that just make mistakes and man I
0:49:59.940,0:50:05.599
make mistakes every year I'm liable to
0:50:02.579,0:50:05.599
make some more of this spring I mean
0:50:08.300,0:50:12.900
that's how you learn that's you know
0:50:10.619,0:50:15.480
it's a reason we know what not to do now
0:50:12.900,0:50:17.700
because we made those mistakes yeah yeah
0:50:15.480,0:50:18.839
yeah that's good stuff yeah I totally
0:50:17.700,0:50:21.300
agree with you I think the biggest
0:50:18.839,0:50:23.099
mistake that turkey hunters make myself
0:50:21.300,0:50:24.780
is you know you hear people talking
0:50:23.099,0:50:27.119
about over calling and this type of
0:50:24.780,0:50:29.280
stuff all the time no it's it's trying
0:50:27.119,0:50:31.560
to do too much trying to hunt birds when
0:50:29.280,0:50:33.480
you know you can't get them killed uh
0:50:31.560,0:50:35.579
bumping birds and then calling to them
0:50:33.480,0:50:38.760
just that type of stuff being just a
0:50:35.579,0:50:41.339
little too extra I guess would say uh
0:50:38.760,0:50:44.040
that's right but uh that's good stuff
0:50:41.339,0:50:46.079
let me uh be quiet about running out of
0:50:44.040,0:50:48.180
time here we've been on here quite a
0:50:46.079,0:50:49.559
quite a while it's easy to get uh deep
0:50:48.180,0:50:51.240
into a podcast when you're talking about
0:50:49.559,0:50:53.339
something you love that's for sure but
0:50:51.240,0:50:55.859
uh yeah I sit here and talk to you all
0:50:53.339,0:50:57.300
day about turkey well I'm going I want
0:50:55.859,0:50:58.440
to talk to you about turkey calls a
0:50:57.300,0:51:02.339
little bit I just got a question for you
0:50:58.440,0:51:03.660
out here yeah we're winding down
0:51:02.339,0:51:06.540
you know you've been running some Fox
0:51:03.660,0:51:11.220
Pro calls for last yep five years I
0:51:06.540,0:51:13.760
guess uh what you if say if I put a
0:51:11.220,0:51:15.900
challenge out there to you
0:51:13.760,0:51:17.880
this year for strutting in the Bluegrass
0:51:15.900,0:51:19.380
you can only take three calls out there
0:51:17.880,0:51:22.140
with you I'm talking about I'm not
0:51:19.380,0:51:25.200
talking about a combo pack and another
0:51:22.140,0:51:27.300
combo I'm talking about individual calls
0:51:25.200,0:51:28.680
if you can go if turkey season was
0:51:27.300,0:51:31.559
coming in in the morning you was gonna
0:51:28.680,0:51:34.440
go out there and hunt what three calls
0:51:31.559,0:51:37.380
are you taking with you well I would say
0:51:34.440,0:51:38.520
it's hard but I I feel pretty certain I
0:51:37.380,0:51:42.480
know which ones I would take to be
0:51:38.520,0:51:46.020
honest there's uh two two diaphragms one
0:51:42.480,0:51:47.819
is uh it's called a wide v-cut uh ever
0:51:46.020,0:51:49.500
since you started running it's one of
0:51:47.819,0:51:51.720
the ghost fur I think it's out of ghost
0:51:49.500,0:51:53.880
spur combo package a wide V cut really
0:51:51.720,0:51:56.819
really like that call and then there's a
0:51:53.880,0:51:59.280
v-cut slash I think is what it's called
0:51:56.819,0:52:01.380
um that's another diaphragm that I found
0:51:59.280,0:52:04.020
that I really love and then I'm taking
0:52:01.380,0:52:05.760
one friction call and it's actually the
0:52:04.020,0:52:07.920
that honey pot and it's actually glass
0:52:05.760,0:52:09.599
with a little [ __ ] you flip it over and
0:52:07.920,0:52:13.040
it's got a little slight surface the
0:52:09.599,0:52:14.940
Bittersweet the Bittersweet but in that
0:52:13.040,0:52:16.920
you know I guess because they've only
0:52:14.940,0:52:19.859
got three so I'm combining you know two
0:52:16.920,0:52:22.079
there I guess but that that glass I can
0:52:19.859,0:52:23.940
you know it's it's super clear you can
0:52:22.079,0:52:25.260
get a very clear note it cuts good and
0:52:23.940,0:52:27.119
then like I said you flip it over and
0:52:25.260,0:52:29.579
you got that little slake Circle it's a
0:52:27.119,0:52:33.300
two in one yeah for clucks and purse
0:52:29.579,0:52:35.579
tree Yelps uh but yeah no it's it's like
0:52:33.300,0:52:37.260
I said uh you know there's different you
0:52:35.579,0:52:38.880
know there's still other calls of theirs
0:52:37.260,0:52:40.140
I really like but those three if I was
0:52:38.880,0:52:41.579
just taking three I would say it would
0:52:40.140,0:52:44.280
be those three right there those two
0:52:41.579,0:52:45.660
diaphragms in a Bittersweet well yep you
0:52:44.280,0:52:48.119
still got all kinds of room in your
0:52:45.660,0:52:49.800
turkey vest there so I'm gonna give you
0:52:48.119,0:52:53.339
one more option you get to take a fourth
0:52:49.800,0:52:58.140
one What's it gonna be oh good night
0:52:53.339,0:52:59.460
you know I love diaphragms uh mouths
0:52:58.140,0:53:01.260
um
0:52:59.460,0:53:03.599
and you've put me on the spot now I
0:53:01.260,0:53:05.579
can't remember the name of this one it's
0:53:03.599,0:53:08.460
the it's it's the white it's the white
0:53:05.579,0:53:09.839
with the orange latex it's a little
0:53:08.460,0:53:13.380
combo cut
0:53:09.839,0:53:16.440
oh the the with the white tape
0:53:13.380,0:53:19.079
no it's a yeah yeah white tape but it's
0:53:16.440,0:53:20.280
got orange latex as the as the as with
0:53:19.079,0:53:22.920
the Reed with the cut in it yeah it's
0:53:20.280,0:53:24.800
like a cutter style call yes smaller
0:53:22.920,0:53:29.280
type yeah yeah
0:53:24.800,0:53:31.619
that's a really really nice uh diaphragm
0:53:29.280,0:53:33.960
air for sure it uh definitely want to
0:53:31.619,0:53:36.839
definitely one of my favorites that that
0:53:33.960,0:53:38.579
combo pack has got three diaphragms in
0:53:36.839,0:53:40.740
it and they're they look like they're a
0:53:38.579,0:53:42.839
small frame but they're actually a
0:53:40.740,0:53:46.020
regular frame call but they're smaller
0:53:42.839,0:53:47.640
tape the tape's cut down yeah right that
0:53:46.020,0:53:49.740
one is one of my like I said whenever
0:53:47.640,0:53:52.020
you first gave me three it it was hard
0:53:49.740,0:53:53.880
for me not to include it there but but I
0:53:52.020,0:53:56.220
I know I wanted a friction call with me
0:53:53.880,0:53:58.200
uh but if that was and like I said I
0:53:56.220,0:54:00.000
heck I can
0:53:58.200,0:54:01.260
and like I said I'm looking at it I can
0:54:00.000,0:54:02.940
look at it in my head right now but I
0:54:01.260,0:54:04.859
can't remember the exact name of it but
0:54:02.940,0:54:06.780
uh but that would be the one I would
0:54:04.859,0:54:09.059
tell you man you know and I'll tell you
0:54:06.780,0:54:11.220
whenever we started that strut and you
0:54:09.059,0:54:13.800
know Foxpro was the you know a sponsor
0:54:11.220,0:54:15.540
of it and uh I didn't even know Foxboro
0:54:13.800,0:54:18.000
made turkey calls
0:54:15.540,0:54:20.040
um and I was no I'm just being honest I
0:54:18.000,0:54:22.740
was in order to not to cut you off here
0:54:20.040,0:54:26.099
but that combo pack is the hybrid spur
0:54:22.740,0:54:28.319
combo package okay that white uh tape
0:54:26.099,0:54:30.660
diaphragm we're talking about it I love
0:54:28.319,0:54:32.099
that I love that diaphragm but but yeah
0:54:30.660,0:54:33.960
so I you know I didn't know anything
0:54:32.099,0:54:35.160
about Fox Pro and their turkey calls and
0:54:33.960,0:54:36.900
I was a little bit hesitant and I'm
0:54:35.160,0:54:39.059
telling I'm telling you I've been more
0:54:36.900,0:54:41.520
than impressed uh with their turkey
0:54:39.059,0:54:43.500
lineup I really have and the thing with
0:54:41.520,0:54:45.540
their diaphragms that has I'm as
0:54:43.500,0:54:49.020
impressed with as anything is how well
0:54:45.540,0:54:50.760
they hold up yep uh other calls or other
0:54:49.020,0:54:52.920
companies I was using I'm telling you I
0:54:50.760,0:54:54.359
was having a before season if I had a
0:54:52.920,0:54:55.980
certain diaphragm I liked I would buy
0:54:54.359,0:54:58.319
three of them because I knew they would
0:54:55.980,0:55:01.440
the the latex would tear
0:54:58.319,0:55:03.780
and I would have to have more and and
0:55:01.440,0:55:06.540
Foxboro it just amazed me at how good
0:55:03.780,0:55:08.819
they hold up all year it really it
0:55:06.540,0:55:10.559
really has it's a very very they're
0:55:08.819,0:55:12.119
they're I don't think they get enough
0:55:10.559,0:55:14.520
credit for the for their turkey calls
0:55:12.119,0:55:16.500
just because I tell you what it's you
0:55:14.520,0:55:18.300
know I see it a lot talk about turkey
0:55:16.500,0:55:19.619
season coming up and running Fox Pro
0:55:18.300,0:55:21.960
calls and they'll get the question
0:55:19.619,0:55:24.420
you're going to use your electronic call
0:55:21.960,0:55:26.280
to try to call in turkeys well one thing
0:55:24.420,0:55:27.980
is there is a handful of states that do
0:55:26.280,0:55:30.839
allow electronic costs
0:55:27.980,0:55:32.040
yeah but other than that I'm like you
0:55:30.839,0:55:34.619
know hunting here in Kentucky of course
0:55:32.040,0:55:36.660
it's it's not legal and the surrounding
0:55:34.619,0:55:38.640
states that we hunt but the thing is
0:55:36.660,0:55:39.920
like no we're going to use Fox Road
0:55:38.640,0:55:42.480
turkey calls
0:55:39.920,0:55:45.300
y'all but turkey calls like yeah we got
0:55:42.480,0:55:47.579
a full full lineup of diaphragms with
0:55:45.300,0:55:50.579
three different combo packs and several
0:55:47.579,0:55:52.800
individuals we got a great friction call
0:55:50.579,0:55:54.839
line with uh yeah you know with all the
0:55:52.800,0:55:56.880
honey pot series we got a slate we got a
0:55:54.839,0:55:58.380
crystal we got a glass call like you
0:55:56.880,0:56:00.119
said the glass with a slate on the
0:55:58.380,0:56:03.119
bottom the Bittersweet and we also got
0:56:00.119,0:56:05.220
two box calls that's uh and I'll tell
0:56:03.119,0:56:08.579
you my like I said I've said it earlier
0:56:05.220,0:56:10.559
my son's 15 so uh this is last year
0:56:08.579,0:56:12.720
youth hunting but his mama told him last
0:56:10.559,0:56:14.579
year after he killed one he said that
0:56:12.720,0:56:16.380
she said that's it she said your daddy's
0:56:14.579,0:56:18.540
not calling no more in for you said you
0:56:16.380,0:56:21.359
gonna have to learn do it yourself and
0:56:18.540,0:56:22.980
uh so he's been practicing and you know
0:56:21.359,0:56:25.260
when you go back to ease of use for a
0:56:22.980,0:56:26.339
new turkey hunter that I sound like I
0:56:25.260,0:56:29.160
don't think you can beat a slight call
0:56:26.339,0:56:31.020
no and going back to the fox Pro so he
0:56:29.160,0:56:33.540
was you know I put it in his hand a
0:56:31.020,0:56:36.119
couple weeks ago he'd never really tried
0:56:33.540,0:56:39.059
it much in a matter of minutes yeah he
0:56:36.119,0:56:41.220
had a very decent sounding Yelp coming
0:56:39.059,0:56:43.200
off that thing so it's uh you know
0:56:41.220,0:56:46.440
that's I would say this if I'm a new
0:56:43.200,0:56:48.300
turkey hunter I'm that slight cause I
0:56:46.440,0:56:50.460
think it sounds realistic and super easy
0:56:48.300,0:56:51.960
to use yep and talking about the ball
0:56:50.460,0:56:54.000
you know everybody can run a box call
0:56:51.960,0:56:55.500
and uh that's uh you know it's your
0:56:54.000,0:56:58.200
traditional style box call but it's
0:56:55.500,0:56:59.819
actually got a striker stuck up in the
0:56:58.200,0:57:01.559
bottom of it there and it's got a piece
0:56:59.819,0:57:03.059
of slate it's like a rectangular piece
0:57:01.559,0:57:04.740
of slate on the bottom side of the box
0:57:03.059,0:57:06.780
and that's called the Counter-Strike
0:57:04.740,0:57:09.420
you'll check it out it's pretty pretty
0:57:06.780,0:57:11.400
nifty little Boxcar for sure and you
0:57:09.420,0:57:13.400
know and I'll tell you not to not to
0:57:11.400,0:57:16.920
turn this into you know
0:57:13.400,0:57:18.660
but but yeah but but I mean this you
0:57:16.920,0:57:21.000
talk about those those friction calls
0:57:18.660,0:57:23.700
are quality calls all their money you
0:57:21.000,0:57:26.280
you go compare them to some of the other
0:57:23.700,0:57:27.920
uh high-end turkey calls and look at
0:57:26.280,0:57:31.260
price
0:57:27.920,0:57:34.079
is fair price as as you'll find in my
0:57:31.260,0:57:35.760
opinion uh I was just uh yesterday at
0:57:34.079,0:57:38.040
work a guy was talking to him about
0:57:35.760,0:57:39.780
turkey calls and and uh and he was
0:57:38.040,0:57:42.660
asking me what I use and like you said
0:57:39.780,0:57:44.760
he he knew coyote calls and stuff like
0:57:42.660,0:57:46.619
that from Foxboro I said I use Foxpro
0:57:44.760,0:57:48.359
calls and so we I got him online he was
0:57:46.619,0:57:50.040
looking at me so oh yeah he said he's
0:57:48.359,0:57:51.660
that's a lot better price than what he
0:57:50.040,0:57:54.540
was looking at you know so I'm like you
0:57:51.660,0:57:57.599
know uh for the quality that they are
0:57:54.540,0:58:00.359
the very very fair priced hey and that
0:57:57.599,0:58:02.460
that call that might be a little bit uh
0:58:00.359,0:58:03.480
cheaper than some of these other brands
0:58:02.460,0:58:05.819
guess what
0:58:03.480,0:58:08.460
it probably won't sound better too right
0:58:05.819,0:58:10.680
if you don't you don't believe me you go
0:58:08.460,0:58:12.059
listen you go watch all these uh Foxpro
0:58:10.680,0:58:14.880
turkey hunts we've been putting out the
0:58:12.059,0:58:18.000
last couple years list of the calling
0:58:14.880,0:58:19.980
check out the results go watch the last
0:58:18.000,0:58:22.140
three seasons of strutting in the
0:58:19.980,0:58:24.300
Bluegrass I think the first season we
0:58:22.140,0:58:25.800
put what we'll do put four big old Toms
0:58:24.300,0:58:28.619
on the ground and next season we put six
0:58:25.800,0:58:31.740
or seven y'all put up seven on her last
0:58:28.619,0:58:34.260
year I mean you know the things work on
0:58:31.740,0:58:35.700
every one of them yeah and you know I
0:58:34.260,0:58:37.260
can't remember the exact name of it John
0:58:35.700,0:58:38.339
with that first year there's a SL I
0:58:37.260,0:58:40.680
still got it down there and I still
0:58:38.339,0:58:43.020
snake at my vest every now and then uh
0:58:40.680,0:58:44.700
it's a flash Pro slate and on the bottom
0:58:43.020,0:58:47.099
it's got the emblem of the turkey skull
0:58:44.700,0:58:49.140
and yeah uh that's still one of my
0:58:47.099,0:58:51.780
favorites yeah we're still still using
0:58:49.140,0:58:54.059
it we discontinued that call it was a
0:58:51.780,0:58:55.380
great pot call too I love that thing we
0:58:54.059,0:58:57.059
pretty much just went to a different
0:58:55.380,0:58:58.619
style pot you know it's made out of
0:58:57.059,0:59:01.020
honey locusts it's still the same
0:58:58.619,0:59:03.240
material on top the friction material
0:59:01.020,0:59:05.460
but we redesigned the pot style and
0:59:03.240,0:59:06.960
stuff like that they're uh at Honeypot
0:59:05.460,0:59:08.760
series pretty slick it's pretty steady
0:59:06.960,0:59:11.520
absolutely
0:59:08.760,0:59:12.900
elbow tell us uh tell us where we can
0:59:11.520,0:59:14.819
watch strutting in the Bluegrass it's
0:59:12.900,0:59:16.079
coming up tell us tell us where we can
0:59:14.819,0:59:18.420
watch it before we get off here so
0:59:16.079,0:59:20.040
everybody can check you out yeah the
0:59:18.420,0:59:22.079
easiest way to do it is you know there's
0:59:20.040,0:59:23.819
three three ways uh Kentucky Department
0:59:22.079,0:59:26.280
of Fish and wildlife's Facebook page
0:59:23.819,0:59:28.680
Instagram or their YouTube channel
0:59:26.280,0:59:31.200
that's where uh going back to what we
0:59:28.680,0:59:33.660
said earlier first seven days of uh
0:59:31.200,0:59:37.559
Kentucky season which starts April 15th
0:59:33.660,0:59:39.839
uh each each night we will we will Air
0:59:37.559,0:59:42.660
uh that day's action so so it's
0:59:39.839,0:59:44.160
basically a live day by day series uh
0:59:42.660,0:59:46.079
that we'll be putting out so I would
0:59:44.160,0:59:48.480
love for yeah absolutely anybody that
0:59:46.079,0:59:50.099
wants to tune in and keep up with us uh
0:59:48.480,0:59:51.720
greatly appreciate it and like you said
0:59:50.099,0:59:53.460
heck you can go back to their Facebook
0:59:51.720,0:59:56.040
page and find videos you can go back and
0:59:53.460,0:59:58.500
watch all of them or go on YouTube and
0:59:56.040,1:00:01.280
uh and get to this the strutting series
0:59:58.500,1:00:04.380
and uh they're all on there yeah
1:00:01.280,1:00:06.119
you can go back and watch the last three
1:00:04.380,1:00:08.940
seasons a lot of awesome turkey hunting
1:00:06.119,1:00:10.859
action on there uh you can go to all the
1:00:08.940,1:00:12.900
fox Pro stuff check out our turkey hunts
1:00:10.859,1:00:16.020
from the last couple years uh we're on
1:00:12.900,1:00:17.640
carbon TV Roku and YouTube
1:00:16.020,1:00:19.319
um like I said
1:00:17.640,1:00:21.299
Department of Fish and Wildlife
1:00:19.319,1:00:23.640
strutting in the Bluegrass brought to
1:00:21.299,1:00:26.339
you by Foxpro game call starts April
1:00:23.640,1:00:28.380
15th first seven days you're gonna be
1:00:26.339,1:00:30.020
able to see some live turkey hunting
1:00:28.380,1:00:32.160
action from the Bluegrass State
1:00:30.020,1:00:35.760
guarantee you're going to see a lot of
1:00:32.160,1:00:37.680
hard gobbling hard strutting big old
1:00:35.760,1:00:40.440
Kentucky long beards get to flopping
1:00:37.680,1:00:42.359
they'd guarantee it and we hope you guys
1:00:40.440,1:00:43.740
have enjoyed this episode and you hope
1:00:42.359,1:00:46.520
you join us again right here on the
1:00:43.740,1:00:46.520
Foxpro podcast