FOXPRO's Jon Collins and Al Morris discuss the right sounds and hunting tactics for spring time coyote calling.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls
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here we go again we've got another great
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Foxpro podcast for you guys and gals I'm
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John Collins and we have the only
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four-time worlds coyote Colin Champion
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joining us Mr Big Al Morris what's going
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on Big Al how are you John Collins I'm
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doing pretty good I heard you've been uh
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you've turned into a a goat Rancher no I
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got one goat and she had a stillborn
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baby and we've been trying to figure out
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if she's going to have another one but
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uh no I am not a goat herder but I do
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have a few goats for the grandkids to
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play Earth around here so it's always
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good but I hate to lose them oh I don't
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yeah me and Al we've been trying to get
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this uh podcast going was going to try
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to shoot for it this afternoon and and
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holler at the house but just just give
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me a little bit of time I'm working on
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something he sent me a picture of his
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goats but anyways sound like he kind of
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got her under control anyway
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we do the best we can do that's for sure
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and you know I've got some nasty weather
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out there right
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it's unbelievable we just hit over 800
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inches you know
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um of snow that's falling up here above
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the mountains of we are going to have
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some water come off these mountains you
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got that many you know I don't know what
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it is on the level 20 to 40 feet up
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there on the level and places so good
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great yeah yeah the mule deer it's gonna
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be uh it's gonna be lousy uh spring
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calling for coyotes around this Wasatch
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and into Wyoming and some of this
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country because there's going to be so
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many dead deer and Elk right the winter
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teal I mean it's going to be a boon for
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the for the litters this spring because
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of all the winter kill that's gonna
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happen in this right in some of these
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sections some of the sections aren't bad
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the elk look healthy the deer look
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healthy but boy there's some places that
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they're feeding the deer and the deer
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look emaciated and some elk look
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emaciated in spots so those coyotes
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that's that's just food that's money in
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the bank for a coyote because they're
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going to be able to raise their pups to
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mid-summer on these carcasses oh yeah
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yeah coyote to be in good shape that's
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for sure especially with the with all
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the winter killed off it sounds like
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everyone have plenty of it that much
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snow uh how's it how's it affect the
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turkeys out there because you know we're
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getting on you know turkey season for
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you guys too you still got a lot of snow
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where the turkeys usually stay at
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unbelievable amounts so yeah we'll lose
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lots of turkeys we'll you know on this
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April uh
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uh I can't remember it starts today 15th
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April I think the 15th of April is when
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our early season starts and and I
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guarantee you these guys that draw the
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early uh turkey tags aren't going to be
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able to hunt turkeys uh where they
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normally do because they won't get there
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there's just I mean there's three to ten
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feet of snow down at these lower
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elevations and man there's 20 to 40 feet
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up in the upper elevations and those
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turkeys are going to be pushed down and
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then the sad fact about mariams is if
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they can't find enough food to eat they
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just die they'll stay up to them trees
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and they just die well I mean they can't
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get to nothing especially if there's a
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field tub snow they can't scratch deep
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enough it's pretty wild in just case you
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for you guys don't know Al's in Utah so
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yeah pretty wild well that's what we're
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going to talk about you know we're
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touching on Spring Air you know that's
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what I'd like to discuss on this episode
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of Springtime uh coyote calling and
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coyotes are actually in many places in
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the country are actually having pups
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right now now and some have had their
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pups in the ground for for several days
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already spring is definitely a unique
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time frame for coyote calling scouting
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calling Styles and how a hunter sets up
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on stands can be different Al what do
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you think about Springtime coyote
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calling you like it love it hate it well
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it's been an interesting Journey For Me
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John because I used to just be a contest
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hunter in the early years 97 through
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that old scene oh you want it 97 then we
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we hunted it for 10 11 years 07 we won
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our our second 08 we back to back it for
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our third and then in 16 we won our
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fourth but it's been an interesting
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journey to go from a hide Hunter and
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only you know November December January
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caller to then video on coyotes year
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round and when I do my seminars now John
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I uh I teach everybody they can base the
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entire year of calling around one event
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and that's the coyotes mating in
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February and having their pups 62 days
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later you know if they breed February
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15th uh the last week April first week
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of May those pups Hit the Dirt right now
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it bred in January
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uh there's already pups in the dirt you
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know as we're sitting right now and
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you're seeing some guys have already
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mentioned seeing pups out right or you
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know seeing pups in dens and so you base
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that whole year around it and uh
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you know it's just it's interesting to
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to
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base the whole year around this event
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that happens that they raise these pups
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and springtime
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I mean you are you have coyotes that are
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in the dens with pups and and you have
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coyotes that are not Denning yet they
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still haven't had their pups and then
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you've got the bulk of the Coyotes out
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there that are just hanging out trying
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to survive this late winter early spring
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go down and then once those pups are the
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13 Days their eyes are closed the next
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13 days they stay in the den it's the
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only time coyotes will use dens and I
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had a guy comment it's going to be a
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lousy Denon season for coyotes and I
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said why is that and he said well
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there's snow everywhere I know a Coyote
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Den is there's 10 12 feet of snow
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and I said if you think for a second
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that an old female coyote couldn't then
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dig through 10 feet of snow in about 10
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minutes you're crazy right right she
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knows exactly where those dens are and
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so she can dig those dens even I mean at
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10 000 feet when I ran Three Forks Ranch
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40 miles north of Steamboat Springs
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Colorado I would I would groom snow cat
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trails at 10 11 000 feet and I knew
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where every one of those cow elk that we
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had harvested in October November we
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would take 100 120 public hunters and
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and really try to thin out some of them
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cow elk and we would do the gutless
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method on those elk and those coyotes
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would excavate 20 30 feet of snow no
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problem get to those carcasses all
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winter long so don't think that uh heavy
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snow or or conditions will keep a coyote
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from Denon where they want a den they'll
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just dig through the snow to get to that
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to that uh that's right and you know and
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stuff happens to the insights all the
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time in a coyote swirl so I don't have
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no problem creating a nudie and
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somewhere else they're pretty efficient
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pretty cool animal if they need to
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create a new DN for themselves they're
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gonna they're gonna do it and they're
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going to find a spot to get up coyotes I
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cannot believe the survivability of a
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coyote and it's just a it's it's an
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homage to him I mean I just saw where uh
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Sean Hayden and those guys killed a
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coyote that had no eyes oh I saw that a
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blind blind couch
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John called him in and and uh and
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harvest him and he said he has no eyes
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you know and then I killed that coyote
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in Alberta that I don't know how long a
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snare would have to be on the upper and
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lower jaw to wear to the Bone and it
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actually wore out an upper canine on the
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right side and a lower canine on the
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left lower left but that cable was
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around that Coyote's mouth long enough
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to wear to the Bone yeah that's that's
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pretty wild and that Rancher said he
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never understood why when he would feed
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those cows in minus 30 conditions one of
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those cows would poop and he said that
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Brazen coyote would run in and start
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licking at that warm poop because he had
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to lick it before it froze or he
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wouldn't get to eat yeah and that coyote
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did that for over two years and that
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Rancher never got him killed never and
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then we kill a coyote that didn't he
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didn't have the snare around his mouth
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but when we skinned out the hide we
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couldn't skin past the about halfway
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down his face and he had wore that cable
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into his bone and it had obviously
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rusted or broke he finally can you
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imagine what that coyote thought when
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that cable come off of his mouth and
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good girl and I've actually died I
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actually saw a coyote in a very similar
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situation that I'd I caught up and
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killed a few Decembers ago uh and he
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only had about a quarter of his bottom
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jaw and had like three teeth on his
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bottom that's all he had because that's
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all the jobs unbelievable but he was up
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good grief lived well too because he was
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a great big old Joker I don't know about
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like a 40 pound male that it had been
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around a while you know what happened to
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him I don't know if he got his mouth
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stuck in a foothole or a snare or
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somebody shot it off run over who knows
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what happened you know my good Trapper
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Buddies say why do you always blame the
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traps or why do you blame the snares and
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everything else just hairs on them yeah
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I know it's a it's a cinch that uh you
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know other things can happen out there
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in the wild hell I've seen Eagles come
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down and Chase coyotes and try to kill
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them and they've just got they're just
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survivors and so this spring season
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we're talking about you know there they
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can be in such a a vast difference of
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where they're at with pups whether they
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got pups and just they just had pups
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they're just getting ready to have pups
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I've killed coyotes in mid-april that
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hadn't you know still they don't have up
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that you know she's big pregnant and and
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uh you know I try to avoid I I I've
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always kind of let them do their thing
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from about now April 1st I kind of shut
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it down uh me and Garvin killed a female
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one time and and uh when we hit her we
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hit her back and when we got up there
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there was little puppies laying
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everywhere yeah and that'll you know as
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much as I I I get after coyotes for what
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they do
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we still love them and I still hate to I
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hate to shoot a pregnant female that's
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gonna you know that's all we looked at
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is that was you know eight pups we were
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never gonna get a chance to call in
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because we killed them right there out
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of their mama and so people think we're
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heartless these you know I love it when
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the pita guys say I'm this heartless
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Barbarian that that uh you know hell I
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got a little choked up over losing a
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baby goat this morning and then you know
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I I don't think that the the true uh
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people that the for the ethical
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treatment of animals I don't think they
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truly understand that we are
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conservationists we hunt coyotes because
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we want more deer we want more elk we
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want more turkeys we want more rabbits
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we want more pheasants we want more
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Quail because those coyotes are eating
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the deer the turkeys the quail the the
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pheasants and and if you'll hunt coyotes
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where you deer hunt you'll have more
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deer and if you can get if you can kill
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that female you know what is it John I
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was watching that pyramid it's been on
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Facebook one female raising pups what
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did they say 28 bonds I've seen it yeah
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and you know you you'll see people you
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know say it's BS and all that but I'd
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say some of that's more true than a lot
0:11:33.959,0:11:38.820
of people want to admit I mean they can
0:11:35.880,0:11:42.060
do they can wreak havoc they really can
0:11:38.820,0:11:44.700
so the big thing for the guy that wants
0:11:42.060,0:11:47.220
an insight as to how to call coyotes in
0:11:44.700,0:11:48.959
April you've really gotta you've really
0:11:47.220,0:11:52.980
got to be willing to do this shotgun
0:11:48.959,0:11:55.380
approach and um because if that female
0:11:52.980,0:11:58.500
and that male have just dug a Dan and
0:11:55.380,0:12:01.560
she goes and lays puppies in a den they
0:11:58.500,0:12:05.160
will not howl for about 14 days two
0:12:01.560,0:12:07.140
weeks they go dark and so you're you're
0:12:05.160,0:12:08.880
scouting if you're using Holland for
0:12:07.140,0:12:10.920
scouting you can't rely on the howling
0:12:08.880,0:12:12.959
this time of year because if they've got
0:12:10.920,0:12:14.459
pups in the den they will go dark for
0:12:12.959,0:12:15.959
about two weeks they won't they don't
0:12:14.459,0:12:17.279
want anybody to know where they're at
0:12:15.959,0:12:19.440
they don't want anybody to know where
0:12:17.279,0:12:21.300
their dens are because I do think that
0:12:19.440,0:12:24.660
there are Den Raiders I think there are
0:12:21.300,0:12:26.940
rogue coyotes and and you can say that
0:12:24.660,0:12:29.640
the Wolves up in some of this country
0:12:26.940,0:12:32.040
and that has wolves them wolves dig them
0:12:29.640,0:12:38.540
pups out the the you know I think
0:12:32.040,0:12:38.540
Badgers I think foxes I think uh or uh
0:12:40.700,0:12:45.120
about seeing other coyotes um you know I
0:12:43.980,0:12:46.620
mean you've talked about calling
0:12:45.120,0:12:48.899
summertime coyotes and Springtime
0:12:46.620,0:12:50.519
coyotes over the last few years and I've
0:12:48.899,0:12:53.220
made a remark to you about you can
0:12:50.519,0:12:55.440
almost tell which coyotes are part of a
0:12:53.220,0:12:57.480
den and which coyotes aren't when they
0:12:55.440,0:12:59.880
come to these puppy sounds some of these
0:12:57.480,0:13:00.899
coyotes got their ears laid back and
0:12:59.880,0:13:02.760
they're and they're kind of like
0:13:00.899,0:13:04.680
creeping sneaking like they look like
0:13:02.760,0:13:06.360
they're in Hunt mode I bet they're
0:13:04.680,0:13:09.000
coming they're going to kill that you're
0:13:06.360,0:13:10.920
gonna kill those [ __ ] yes you know then
0:13:09.000,0:13:12.480
you got those coyotes that come in you
0:13:10.920,0:13:14.459
can tell they're frantic their eyes are
0:13:12.480,0:13:15.660
big around as saucers or ears straight
0:13:14.459,0:13:17.519
up there and they're looking left and
0:13:15.660,0:13:19.380
right as they're coming in but you can
0:13:17.519,0:13:21.600
tell just by the look on their face that
0:13:19.380,0:13:24.779
they're they're worried they're coming
0:13:21.600,0:13:26.100
yeah protect those puppies you know so
0:13:24.779,0:13:28.139
there's there's definitely two different
0:13:26.100,0:13:29.639
types of coyotes when it comes like pups
0:13:28.139,0:13:32.399
in a den for sure
0:13:29.639,0:13:35.940
you know and that's when the dog and you
0:13:32.399,0:13:37.980
know and and we we say we we like to dog
0:13:35.940,0:13:39.800
and I I I'll never have any better
0:13:37.980,0:13:44.100
dogging dogs than I've got right now
0:13:39.800,0:13:46.380
Ted's 14 grits 13 a little bit seven or
0:13:44.100,0:13:48.779
eight and and Ari's four or five coming
0:13:46.380,0:13:50.820
down and those are the two daughters of
0:13:48.779,0:13:54.240
Ted and grit and that those four dogs
0:13:50.820,0:13:56.760
are just amazing dogs and and really the
0:13:54.240,0:14:00.480
dogging doesn't get good
0:13:56.760,0:14:02.339
until end of May 1st of June and then it
0:14:00.480,0:14:04.740
just gets better in July and August as
0:14:02.339,0:14:06.540
those puppies get older and get into
0:14:04.740,0:14:10.260
more trouble and Mom and Dad are trying
0:14:06.540,0:14:12.600
to protect them but this time of year
0:14:10.260,0:14:14.820
um you know even listening to you talk
0:14:12.600,0:14:17.459
to Tori on some of his sound Gathering
0:14:14.820,0:14:20.160
and whatnot how you know the social
0:14:17.459,0:14:22.980
structure of a coyote and that was the
0:14:20.160,0:14:25.260
biggest thing John that I've noticed
0:14:22.980,0:14:28.680
since we brought on mfk
0:14:25.260,0:14:30.899
is I didn't realize how many vocals that
0:14:28.680,0:14:33.839
we lacked as far as in the Foxborough
0:14:30.899,0:14:36.660
Library we had some excellent vocals but
0:14:33.839,0:14:39.959
we didn't have a lot of the fights right
0:14:36.660,0:14:42.120
and and and those serious fights like
0:14:39.959,0:14:45.300
Town town and then all the fights you
0:14:42.120,0:14:47.820
know stanky little B and and bougie and
0:14:45.300,0:14:51.060
and all those pups that he's
0:14:47.820,0:14:54.779
I really think I'm I am so excited to go
0:14:51.060,0:14:56.459
out there and and I've I've I've touted
0:14:54.779,0:14:58.920
this a couple times now and we might as
0:14:56.459,0:15:02.300
well get it official out here I'm doing
0:14:58.920,0:15:03.860
the same sequence 24 7
0:15:02.300,0:15:08.579
365
0:15:03.860,0:15:10.680
day night it doesn't matter and I just
0:15:08.579,0:15:14.579
proved it to myself in Texas last week
0:15:10.680,0:15:18.180
nighttime that I can set up and use C5
0:15:14.579,0:15:21.959
young coyote Hal and then I use little B
0:15:18.180,0:15:24.060
whimper pup how and I let I let C5 how
0:15:21.959,0:15:26.820
three times I'll let little B do her
0:15:24.060,0:15:29.820
little 20 30 second binge and then I
0:15:26.820,0:15:32.220
just sit there and listen and I am
0:15:29.820,0:15:35.220
amazed how many coyotes will answer that
0:15:32.220,0:15:38.820
and if they answer it then I can go
0:15:35.220,0:15:42.360
either into a distress I can go into a
0:15:38.820,0:15:46.320
pup distress I can go into a pup fight I
0:15:42.360,0:15:47.180
mean typically in in November I was
0:15:46.320,0:15:50.699
um
0:15:47.180,0:15:52.920
November through January and in fact uh
0:15:50.699,0:15:54.779
I'm excited this week
0:15:52.920,0:15:57.120
um I don't know when this podcast will
0:15:54.779,0:16:01.380
air but I mean the first coyote I called
0:15:57.120,0:16:04.860
in in January was a shotgun coyote at 15
0:16:01.380,0:16:07.860
yards and I did the same sequence in
0:16:04.860,0:16:09.420
January that I just did in March and I
0:16:07.860,0:16:13.380
know I'm going to do the same sequence
0:16:09.420,0:16:15.120
next month in May and June July I'm
0:16:13.380,0:16:18.360
gonna open up with just single
0:16:15.120,0:16:20.820
non-aggressive house and then in
0:16:18.360,0:16:23.399
November December October November
0:16:20.820,0:16:26.120
December I will do 10 12 minutes of
0:16:23.399,0:16:28.920
rabbit distress after those lone house
0:16:26.120,0:16:30.899
this time of year I don't think I'm
0:16:28.920,0:16:33.600
gonna do rabbit distress I'm gonna go
0:16:30.899,0:16:34.980
straight to pup because because there's
0:16:33.600,0:16:36.899
probably going to be there should be
0:16:34.980,0:16:38.940
pups in the ground if they're not in the
0:16:36.899,0:16:41.339
ground soon to be in the ground I'm
0:16:38.940,0:16:43.860
gonna skip the prey distress and go
0:16:41.339,0:16:46.500
straight to the pup distress and then
0:16:43.860,0:16:49.800
I'll go to pup fights you know the
0:16:46.500,0:16:52.500
little bee stinks fight I really like it
0:16:49.800,0:16:54.180
um what's your favorite fight of the pup
0:16:52.500,0:16:58.019
well you know especially talking about
0:16:54.180,0:17:00.660
this early spring for April and may as
0:16:58.019,0:17:01.980
well you know just those fights you're
0:17:00.660,0:17:03.480
talking about they got a good three week
0:17:01.980,0:17:05.819
and a good eight week I'll probably
0:17:03.480,0:17:07.380
start out with a three week play it for
0:17:05.819,0:17:09.419
a couple minutes if nothing comes I'll
0:17:07.380,0:17:11.339
switch into that night yeah cause both
0:17:09.419,0:17:13.740
of those sounds are are money but
0:17:11.339,0:17:15.480
probably my first sounds out you know
0:17:13.740,0:17:17.520
but after the howling like you talked
0:17:15.480,0:17:19.020
about your Hal and then instead of going
0:17:17.520,0:17:21.179
into a prey distress you're gonna go
0:17:19.020,0:17:23.459
straight into pups uh we've got some
0:17:21.179,0:17:26.160
good small puppy sounds I tell you what
0:17:23.459,0:17:27.900
I know pups three one four has been
0:17:26.160,0:17:30.419
money
0:17:27.900,0:17:32.400
um Brian Trussell has video of 10
0:17:30.419,0:17:34.740
coyotes coming to pups three one four
0:17:32.400,0:17:38.460
two weeks ago yep uh coyote pup three
0:17:34.740,0:17:41.280
one four ten Town pups uh the old canine
0:17:38.460,0:17:43.140
puppies two canine pups too yeah people
0:17:41.280,0:17:45.000
don't think about that Sam but how many
0:17:43.140,0:17:47.100
coyotes is that thing caught in and then
0:17:45.000,0:17:49.679
we're talking about the mfk library
0:17:47.100,0:17:51.960
what's the cool thing about that he Tori
0:17:49.679,0:17:54.480
has recorded pups with her eyes closed
0:17:51.960,0:17:56.100
you know right one week two weeks you
0:17:54.480,0:17:58.140
know these three week stuff got all
0:17:56.100,0:18:00.480
these got milk sounds that he's got on
0:17:58.140,0:18:02.179
there those are those are and this those
0:18:00.480,0:18:05.700
were the sounds that are gonna work
0:18:02.179,0:18:07.559
right now because there are those size
0:18:05.700,0:18:11.400
pups in the dirt and there's gonna be
0:18:07.559,0:18:13.500
that size pups for another 45 days yep I
0:18:11.400,0:18:15.179
mean they don't have to have pups you
0:18:13.500,0:18:16.980
know it we already know there's pups in
0:18:15.179,0:18:19.020
the dirt and it's the last week of March
0:18:16.980,0:18:20.820
first week of April yep um we know
0:18:19.020,0:18:23.340
there's going to be pups in the dirt the
0:18:20.820,0:18:25.260
entire time through April into the first
0:18:23.340,0:18:27.299
couple three weeks of May and they could
0:18:25.260,0:18:29.580
even get pups as late as the end of May
0:18:27.299,0:18:32.460
yep I've been out there with Jeff Ryder
0:18:29.580,0:18:34.919
in Kansas and we little tiny pups the
0:18:32.460,0:18:37.200
last week of May that's that's one of
0:18:34.919,0:18:38.760
the crazy things to me yeah with with
0:18:37.200,0:18:41.460
the coyotes themselves
0:18:38.760,0:18:44.039
all the coyotes from the East Coast the
0:18:41.460,0:18:45.480
west coast and everywhere in between you
0:18:44.039,0:18:46.919
can basically bet probably the average
0:18:45.480,0:18:49.320
drop date is going to be somewhere
0:18:46.919,0:18:52.320
between what April 10th and April 15th
0:18:49.320,0:18:54.600
right for dropping yeah no yeah if they
0:18:52.320,0:18:56.640
breed at a peak of the breeding is
0:18:54.600,0:18:59.640
supposed to be February 15th so if you
0:18:56.640,0:19:01.860
count 62 days from February 15th that's
0:18:59.640,0:19:04.980
the last week April first week of Mayday
0:19:01.860,0:19:07.320
the fire and so if they bred just a week
0:19:04.980,0:19:10.500
or two early that means they're they're
0:19:07.320,0:19:13.320
dropping that April 10th to the 15th you
0:19:10.500,0:19:15.900
know yep and and that's Nationwide
0:19:13.320,0:19:17.640
that's that's what I think is wild you
0:19:15.900,0:19:20.400
know no that's crazy that they do it
0:19:17.640,0:19:22.559
from Old Mexico to Northern Alberta up
0:19:20.400,0:19:25.679
into Saskatchewan and that country in
0:19:22.559,0:19:30.360
Alaska and they're doing it from Maine
0:19:25.679,0:19:32.640
to California right and that's why you
0:19:30.360,0:19:34.620
know that's what's been awesome and
0:19:32.640,0:19:36.360
that's that's been the journey for me is
0:19:34.620,0:19:39.960
that I started having to call a year
0:19:36.360,0:19:43.679
around and then getting the dogs it and
0:19:39.960,0:19:46.679
but a guy doesn't need decoy dogs you'll
0:19:43.679,0:19:48.780
still get these amazing call-ins if you
0:19:46.679,0:19:51.059
just use some of these vocals of these
0:19:48.780,0:19:54.720
pups this pup distress the pup fights
0:19:51.059,0:19:57.660
the major fights and then you know pup
0:19:54.720,0:20:00.120
screams pup distress three I don't leave
0:19:57.660,0:20:01.919
a stand I've never left a stand that I
0:20:00.120,0:20:04.080
didn't play those two sounds right or
0:20:01.919,0:20:07.340
it's a very rare thing because of the
0:20:04.080,0:20:10.860
dramatic callings I get from just those
0:20:07.340,0:20:14.120
those coyote coyotes chewing on a coyote
0:20:10.860,0:20:16.980
they're so social they're so territorial
0:20:14.120,0:20:18.900
they're so you know protective of their
0:20:16.980,0:20:21.240
pups that those sounds are just money
0:20:18.900,0:20:22.740
sounds and those this time of year is
0:20:21.240,0:20:25.380
when those sounds are really going to
0:20:22.740,0:20:27.120
kick in right right well let's get uh
0:20:25.380,0:20:28.380
let's get right back to that sequence we
0:20:27.120,0:20:30.059
were talking about out you know we
0:20:28.380,0:20:32.580
mentioned you'd let out a set of howls
0:20:30.059,0:20:34.200
and maybe answer with another set and
0:20:32.580,0:20:36.600
then instead of going to prey distress
0:20:34.200,0:20:38.520
you go to puppy sounds when he's talking
0:20:36.600,0:20:40.980
about hitting on those small small puppy
0:20:38.520,0:20:43.799
stuff stuff like they've got milk type
0:20:40.980,0:20:46.980
sounds the early one two and three week
0:20:43.799,0:20:50.039
stuff from mfk uh 10 Town pups coyote
0:20:46.980,0:20:52.200
pup 314 K9 plus two all those type of
0:20:50.039,0:20:53.640
sounds after you run those sound how
0:20:52.200,0:20:57.299
long are you going to run those type of
0:20:53.640,0:20:59.520
sounds Al in your seat I'm gonna let him
0:20:57.299,0:21:01.799
eat that five to eight minutes okay so
0:20:59.520,0:21:03.660
you know my house take me to two to
0:21:01.799,0:21:05.760
three minutes then I'm gonna play
0:21:03.660,0:21:07.320
another puppy sound for another five to
0:21:05.760,0:21:09.840
eight minutes depending on if I think
0:21:07.320,0:21:12.059
I'm getting any play or not and then I'm
0:21:09.840,0:21:13.679
gonna go to the pup fight okay you know
0:21:12.059,0:21:15.900
so are you gonna are you just picking
0:21:13.679,0:21:18.380
one coyote puppy sound are you gonna
0:21:15.900,0:21:21.780
play multiple like
0:21:18.380,0:21:23.640
I'll play an mfk puppy sound I got milk
0:21:21.780,0:21:27.120
and then I'll do the pups three one four
0:21:23.640,0:21:30.299
or the Toontown or the wigged out pup
0:21:27.120,0:21:33.780
you know I'll I'll do uh I'll do those
0:21:30.299,0:21:36.240
guys and then then I'll make it every
0:21:33.780,0:21:38.400
time I call John I try to create a
0:21:36.240,0:21:39.539
scenario that if a coyote's sitting
0:21:38.400,0:21:42.960
there look
0:21:39.539,0:21:45.299
he has to come look he has to make his
0:21:42.960,0:21:47.520
way towards me because he doesn't he
0:21:45.299,0:21:50.400
they heard house well they're
0:21:47.520,0:21:52.260
territorial I mean and that's what I
0:21:50.400,0:21:54.000
tell everybody you got five reasons
0:21:52.260,0:21:55.919
coyotes are gonna come they gotta eat
0:21:54.000,0:21:57.720
they're gonna protect their territory
0:21:55.919,0:21:59.780
they're gonna breed they're gonna
0:21:57.720,0:22:02.460
protect their pups and they're curious
0:21:59.780,0:22:05.159
so those are five cylinders we're gonna
0:22:02.460,0:22:07.080
fire on so the first cylinder I fired on
0:22:05.159,0:22:09.720
was the territorial there's coyotes in
0:22:07.080,0:22:11.340
their area they know every voice it's
0:22:09.720,0:22:12.840
just like I know that's John Collins
0:22:11.340,0:22:15.419
from
0:22:12.840,0:22:18.840
um Kentucky my Kentucky windage guy
0:22:15.419,0:22:21.780
because of these boys and and you know
0:22:18.840,0:22:24.659
it's a big owl from my voice and these
0:22:21.780,0:22:26.340
coyotes when they hear strange coyotes I
0:22:24.659,0:22:28.380
honestly think it freaks some of them
0:22:26.340,0:22:29.760
out they're like holy [ __ ] what are
0:22:28.380,0:22:32.820
those two coyotes doing in our area
0:22:29.760,0:22:36.120
let's roll right and so honestly I have
0:22:32.820,0:22:38.940
played C5 young coyote Hal and little B
0:22:36.120,0:22:40.740
whimper pup pow and I'm snicking the
0:22:38.940,0:22:43.380
safety off there's coyotes coming to
0:22:40.740,0:22:46.500
those two sounds yep and at two to three
0:22:43.380,0:22:47.940
minutes they're there and once I get
0:22:46.500,0:22:51.179
through that two to three minutes I'm
0:22:47.940,0:22:55.140
gonna go to to pups three one four and
0:22:51.179,0:22:57.440
got milk got milk to the the older you
0:22:55.140,0:23:00.600
know the the three week the eight week
0:22:57.440,0:23:03.299
uh some of that stuff those pups that
0:23:00.600,0:23:05.700
are just in a den whimpering yep and
0:23:03.299,0:23:08.159
some of those sounds then I want to go
0:23:05.700,0:23:10.860
to the fights if nothing showed up there
0:23:08.159,0:23:12.360
but I maybe a coyote howled at a mile a
0:23:10.860,0:23:15.059
mile and a half away I know he's it's
0:23:12.360,0:23:17.700
gonna take him 12 minutes if he comes at
0:23:15.059,0:23:20.159
a pretty good clip if you know you can
0:23:17.700,0:23:22.260
just barely hear a coyote out in my
0:23:20.159,0:23:24.000
country he's a mile to a mile and a half
0:23:22.260,0:23:25.740
away and I've done the time it takes
0:23:24.000,0:23:26.520
them seven to twelve minutes to get
0:23:25.740,0:23:28.799
there
0:23:26.520,0:23:30.600
so you need to play some sounds in there
0:23:28.799,0:23:32.580
that are going to fill that Gap if
0:23:30.600,0:23:34.320
there's anything closer but it's still
0:23:32.580,0:23:37.919
going to Intrigue any coyotes that are
0:23:34.320,0:23:40.620
coming right so about that you know five
0:23:37.919,0:23:42.659
to eight minutes into these pups I'll go
0:23:40.620,0:23:45.120
into some fights and then I'll play
0:23:42.659,0:23:47.100
fights for two to four six minutes there
0:23:45.120,0:23:49.679
and then I'll go to the serious fights
0:23:47.100,0:23:53.220
and then I'll throw some pup screams in
0:23:49.679,0:23:54.840
there and then if I really honestly
0:23:53.220,0:23:57.840
think there's been some coyotes there
0:23:54.840,0:24:00.179
that maybe you're too timid to come to a
0:23:57.840,0:24:03.539
fight or or maybe they don't have any
0:24:00.179,0:24:06.240
pup affiliations or whatever this time
0:24:03.539,0:24:08.820
of year I'll start to play the kid goat
0:24:06.240,0:24:11.880
distress the fawn deer distress the
0:24:08.820,0:24:15.539
antelope fawns I'll play them at the 12
0:24:11.880,0:24:17.580
15 minute Mark to fire on their stomachs
0:24:15.539,0:24:19.740
they still gotta eat and it's cold all
0:24:17.580,0:24:22.260
right you know and so I'll reverse it
0:24:19.740,0:24:24.600
I'll play some of that distress later
0:24:22.260,0:24:28.020
in the you know and Hell the other night
0:24:24.600,0:24:30.600
in Texas a Nutty nut hatch was getting
0:24:28.020,0:24:32.400
some play woodpecker we'd play the
0:24:30.600,0:24:33.720
vocals and we knew there was Coyotes out
0:24:32.400,0:24:36.179
there but they didn't show up to the
0:24:33.720,0:24:38.220
vocals we would then go to Mrs MC
0:24:36.179,0:24:40.500
Cottontail I would play some of those
0:24:38.220,0:24:42.480
odd distresses kid goat distress got a
0:24:40.500,0:24:45.059
sakayote from Texas
0:24:42.480,0:24:47.039
um I just think you've got to fire on
0:24:45.059,0:24:49.020
those cylinders they're just coyotes
0:24:47.039,0:24:51.480
everybody wants to make a coyote a
0:24:49.020,0:24:53.640
really smart you know animal that can
0:24:51.480,0:24:55.260
out think a human and and I think at the
0:24:53.640,0:24:57.539
end of the day they're just really good
0:24:55.260,0:24:59.400
at living in their environment and if
0:24:57.539,0:25:01.260
you can fire on those howls if you can
0:24:59.400,0:25:03.720
fire on those pups if you can fire on
0:25:01.260,0:25:04.980
the pup distress if you can fire on the
0:25:03.720,0:25:07.140
fight
0:25:04.980,0:25:09.000
um that's awesome but you still there's
0:25:07.140,0:25:11.220
a there's a group of coyotes out there
0:25:09.000,0:25:12.720
that may be only ruled by their stomach
0:25:11.220,0:25:14.820
this time of year they don't have any
0:25:12.720,0:25:16.440
skin in the game on any of these dens or
0:25:14.820,0:25:19.260
well they've all got it they've all got
0:25:16.440,0:25:21.900
to eat so they've all got to eat and so
0:25:19.260,0:25:23.820
they're I will play distress but I'll
0:25:21.900,0:25:26.460
play it the end of the sequence instead
0:25:23.820,0:25:28.799
of like November October November when I
0:25:26.460,0:25:31.380
play the distress at the after I do the
0:25:28.799,0:25:33.539
two howls I'll play the rabbit for 10-15
0:25:31.380,0:25:36.059
minutes you know right right yeah I'm
0:25:33.539,0:25:37.799
I'm right there with you yeah only thing
0:25:36.059,0:25:39.120
I do different with Prager stress if I
0:25:37.799,0:25:40.980
do run it during the spring and summer
0:25:39.120,0:25:42.600
months I'm usually playing stuff that I
0:25:40.980,0:25:44.820
normally wouldn't run in the fall and
0:25:42.600,0:25:47.520
winter like the kid goat distress Fawn
0:25:44.820,0:25:50.100
distress those type of sounds you know
0:25:47.520,0:25:51.720
we talk about uh we talk about triggers
0:25:50.100,0:25:53.580
all the time just trying to trigger a
0:25:51.720,0:25:55.140
coyote that's basically what Al's pretty
0:25:53.580,0:25:56.580
much touching on you're gonna have
0:25:55.140,0:25:58.260
coyotes that's going to show up to the
0:25:56.580,0:25:59.520
house they're gonna you're gonna howl
0:25:58.260,0:26:01.740
and they're gonna start coming right to
0:25:59.520,0:26:03.659
them and you can have coyote show up in
0:26:01.740,0:26:06.059
your stand that will actually show up to
0:26:03.659,0:26:08.520
the house nothing shows up to that you
0:26:06.059,0:26:10.320
start playing some of those young coyote
0:26:08.520,0:26:12.000
sounds some of those young puppies house
0:26:10.320,0:26:13.440
and you might have to skip through two
0:26:12.000,0:26:15.360
or three of them before you finally get
0:26:13.440,0:26:17.039
a trigger from a coyote if they still
0:26:15.360,0:26:18.419
and some of them still may not trigger
0:26:17.039,0:26:19.860
to those that's when you start bouncing
0:26:18.419,0:26:21.960
into these fights start out with those
0:26:19.860,0:26:23.460
pup fights maybe play one or two of
0:26:21.960,0:26:25.740
those when you get into the sub adult
0:26:23.460,0:26:27.299
and adult type coyote fights and you
0:26:25.740,0:26:29.400
just never know what might trigger them
0:26:27.299,0:26:30.960
it's you know how you know this that
0:26:29.400,0:26:32.880
you've had Coyotes out there in front of
0:26:30.960,0:26:34.320
you howled at them they're there they
0:26:32.880,0:26:37.200
may not answer they might answer they
0:26:34.320,0:26:39.299
may not but they don't come to you you
0:26:37.200,0:26:40.679
can play a sound like got milk the
0:26:39.299,0:26:42.960
coyote can sit there and listen to the
0:26:40.679,0:26:44.760
whole thing never advance and you could
0:26:42.960,0:26:46.260
play a couple more puppy sounds steal
0:26:44.760,0:26:47.940
nothing then all of a sudden you might
0:26:46.260,0:26:50.820
play and I'm just gonna pull sound out
0:26:47.940,0:26:53.580
of there just say mfk Boon pup seven
0:26:50.820,0:26:55.679
week all set now coyote perks up says
0:26:53.580,0:26:57.480
that sounds like my baby over what's
0:26:55.679,0:26:58.980
going on income and it triggers that
0:26:57.480,0:27:02.039
coyote and he comes running right in and
0:26:58.980,0:27:04.740
you you know Big Apple horses want to
0:27:02.039,0:27:07.320
dial him up in right no that's what
0:27:04.740,0:27:09.720
makes that Library so cool that uh
0:27:07.320,0:27:12.960
Tori's put together is because he has
0:27:09.720,0:27:16.260
the you know in weeks you know from one
0:27:12.960,0:27:19.100
week three weeks five weeks seven weeks
0:27:16.260,0:27:22.260
nine weeks you know 16 weeks
0:27:19.100,0:27:25.320
these coyotes I mean you're going to be
0:27:22.260,0:27:27.179
able for the next four months you're
0:27:25.320,0:27:30.120
going to be able to play sounds age
0:27:27.179,0:27:32.520
appropriate for that demographic and and
0:27:30.120,0:27:35.340
it I think I can't help but think I'm
0:27:32.520,0:27:37.020
gonna get more call-ins because of us I
0:27:35.340,0:27:39.779
think he's got stuff recorded all the
0:27:37.020,0:27:41.580
way up to 16 week coyotes and that's
0:27:39.779,0:27:43.620
just that's just cool stuff you can kind
0:27:41.580,0:27:46.200
of plan on those coyotes those puppies
0:27:43.620,0:27:48.779
being born in mid-april that April 10th
0:27:46.200,0:27:51.419
to 15th whatever somewhere in that time
0:27:48.779,0:27:53.640
frame and from from that point on you
0:27:51.419,0:27:55.679
can just start increasing the week you
0:27:53.640,0:27:57.480
know you play the three week stuff you
0:27:55.679,0:27:59.279
know at the end of April first of May
0:27:57.480,0:28:01.919
then you bump up to the five six seven
0:27:59.279,0:28:03.659
eight week stuff you know as as the
0:28:01.919,0:28:08.340
spring and summer goes on
0:28:03.659,0:28:10.740
what amazes me John is here in July
0:28:08.340,0:28:13.320
I'll be able to play that three week old
0:28:10.740,0:28:15.900
stuff and it still gets some players
0:28:13.320,0:28:17.520
still you know it still triggers and
0:28:15.900,0:28:21.059
when we're talking about these triggers
0:28:17.520,0:28:24.900
that and and honestly that's I mean and
0:28:21.059,0:28:28.020
and I think the x-24 playing that stuff
0:28:24.900,0:28:29.880
out in 24-bit I think I'm getting more
0:28:28.020,0:28:31.799
triggers right than the rest of it
0:28:29.880,0:28:33.240
playing in 16-bit I don't know how to
0:28:31.799,0:28:35.580
explain it to somebody other than I've
0:28:33.240,0:28:38.520
been proven I've been proven a theory
0:28:35.580,0:28:41.640
that I really believe that playing stuff
0:28:38.520,0:28:44.460
in 24 bit and and uh I mean I'm so
0:28:41.640,0:28:47.100
excited for the X360 and the x48 that's
0:28:44.460,0:28:49.559
coming right well that we won't get too
0:28:47.100,0:28:51.419
deep into the new calls well you know
0:28:49.559,0:28:53.640
because you know quite frankly man I
0:28:51.419,0:28:55.260
really don't know what some of the
0:28:53.640,0:28:58.080
features are going to be but what we do
0:28:55.260,0:29:02.700
know about the X360 is that things won't
0:28:58.080,0:29:04.919
be one bad dude the uh Fox Fusion is
0:29:02.700,0:29:06.419
going to be out of this world and I
0:29:04.919,0:29:08.340
don't mind getting people's interest
0:29:06.419,0:29:10.440
peaked now because it won't be available
0:29:08.340,0:29:12.299
until the end of summer early fall but
0:29:10.440,0:29:15.480
I'm just telling you it's something to
0:29:12.299,0:29:18.840
look forward to but back to the spring
0:29:15.480,0:29:21.600
um spring is transition and with all the
0:29:18.840,0:29:24.360
new animals you know the deer all hit
0:29:21.600,0:29:26.100
the ground in mid-june all the
0:29:24.360,0:29:28.740
whitetails are having their fawns those
0:29:26.100,0:29:31.260
those females are gonna start really
0:29:28.740,0:29:33.179
hammering these female coyotes are
0:29:31.260,0:29:36.600
really going to start hammering our deer
0:29:33.179,0:29:40.440
and our our baby elk our baby deer
0:29:36.600,0:29:42.779
um Antelope and uh man that is the time
0:29:40.440,0:29:44.880
we really if you can do yourself one
0:29:42.779,0:29:46.860
favor get out there and kill just one of
0:29:44.880,0:29:49.440
those females that's that's killing
0:29:46.860,0:29:51.659
those fawns because that pyramid is true
0:29:49.440,0:29:54.179
and you can really do some good
0:29:51.659,0:29:55.919
mitigation and and that one Fawn you
0:29:54.179,0:29:58.440
save might be that buck that turns into
0:29:55.919,0:30:00.299
the 200 inch giant or the 180 that you
0:29:58.440,0:30:03.899
want to shoot there's a whitetail in
0:30:00.299,0:30:07.260
Ohio and and uh it's just everybody
0:30:03.899,0:30:09.960
needs to to gear up for these spring Sun
0:30:07.260,0:30:12.179
early summer coyotes with uh you gotta
0:30:09.960,0:30:14.340
have a full range of sounds you've got
0:30:12.179,0:30:17.100
to be able to go from the house to the
0:30:14.340,0:30:19.200
to the pups to the pup distresses to the
0:30:17.100,0:30:21.419
fights the pup fights and the the big
0:30:19.200,0:30:23.820
major fights and then the the distress
0:30:21.419,0:30:26.039
that that puff screams and pup three and
0:30:23.820,0:30:28.140
I really think that's you know you're
0:30:26.039,0:30:29.940
you're covering everything and then if
0:30:28.140,0:30:31.799
you can do those weird distresses you
0:30:29.940,0:30:33.600
you know kitten distress this time of
0:30:31.799,0:30:36.059
year spend money for me Porky fine
0:30:33.600,0:30:38.820
distress those odd distresses are the
0:30:36.059,0:30:40.620
that I really think that guys listen and
0:30:38.820,0:30:42.539
if you want to have some effect on the
0:30:40.620,0:30:44.340
spring I mean that's your game plan
0:30:42.539,0:30:46.320
that's you we just laid it out for you
0:30:44.340,0:30:47.880
yep that's right well I got a good
0:30:46.320,0:30:49.740
question for you here out that I wrote
0:30:47.880,0:30:53.159
down I wanted to ask you
0:30:49.740,0:30:57.059
how does spring coyote calling affect
0:30:53.159,0:31:00.120
coyote population uh can the pup survive
0:30:57.059,0:31:01.919
you know what what point do these pups
0:31:00.120,0:31:05.240
have to be what age do they have to be
0:31:01.919,0:31:09.480
for like you can kill mama or
0:31:05.240,0:31:12.419
I just blanked his name anyway I met an
0:31:09.480,0:31:15.679
old boy that all he did was kill coyos
0:31:12.419,0:31:20.460
for The Sheepman here in in this area
0:31:15.679,0:31:22.500
and uh on uh uh God it's on the tip of
0:31:20.460,0:31:24.840
my tongue and anyway I put this on
0:31:22.500,0:31:26.640
Predator Masters years ago and man you
0:31:24.840,0:31:29.279
should have seen and we'll get some play
0:31:26.640,0:31:31.860
on this right here on this podcast he
0:31:29.279,0:31:33.120
was telling me about how when he was a
0:31:31.860,0:31:35.220
younger man
0:31:33.120,0:31:37.020
uh Sheepman calls him and says man
0:31:35.220,0:31:39.299
they're just into my lamps I just had my
0:31:37.020,0:31:40.799
lambs and damn this this male and female
0:31:39.299,0:31:42.299
come in and they've already killed a
0:31:40.799,0:31:43.860
couple of my lamps
0:31:42.299,0:31:45.899
so
0:31:43.860,0:31:47.039
I want to say his name first name was
0:31:45.899,0:31:49.559
Roland
0:31:47.039,0:31:51.179
um anyway
0:31:49.559,0:31:53.460
he went up there
0:31:51.179,0:31:55.559
and he got the calling and I don't he
0:31:53.460,0:31:57.360
didn't tell me at the time I didn't
0:31:55.559,0:31:59.700
remember asking him if he'd held him in
0:31:57.360,0:32:01.679
or whether he'd distressed him in but it
0:31:59.700,0:32:05.760
was an open read call so he could have
0:32:01.679,0:32:07.559
done either he was a him and and uh Bill
0:32:05.760,0:32:09.960
Austin were buddies
0:32:07.559,0:32:12.179
and Bill Austin was a famous guy that
0:32:09.960,0:32:17.700
you know he had Bill Austin's who would
0:32:12.179,0:32:20.580
uh Sunrise serenade and female uh uh
0:32:17.700,0:32:22.380
invitation and Bill Austin's the guy
0:32:20.580,0:32:25.440
that coined all those terms and Randy
0:32:22.380,0:32:28.140
Anderson everybody me everybody that uh
0:32:25.440,0:32:32.760
ever quotes the female invitation is
0:32:28.140,0:32:34.799
quoting that from Bill Austin and uh
0:32:32.760,0:32:37.620
think of this old man's name but anyway
0:32:34.799,0:32:40.919
he calls in this pair and he sees the
0:32:37.620,0:32:42.899
female is big and Pregnant and he was so
0:32:40.919,0:32:45.240
excited to kill this big pregnant female
0:32:42.899,0:32:48.120
he said it was only an 80-yard shot he
0:32:45.240,0:32:51.320
was shooting he's 220 Swift and he shot
0:32:48.120,0:32:55.260
right over her and she got away oh man
0:32:51.320,0:32:58.260
and he was distraught
0:32:55.260,0:32:58.260
right
0:32:58.880,0:33:03.360
four days later well it was his
0:33:01.320,0:33:07.020
livelihood yeah
0:33:03.360,0:33:10.380
four days later he goes in there and he
0:33:07.020,0:33:13.080
I think he held him in the first time
0:33:10.380,0:33:16.980
and four days later he went in there and
0:33:13.080,0:33:18.960
killed that female and when he got up to
0:33:16.980,0:33:21.360
her he could tell she'd had all her
0:33:18.960,0:33:24.240
puppies so he cut her open and counted
0:33:21.360,0:33:26.760
the fallopian tube you know connections
0:33:24.240,0:33:31.559
and that coyote had had eight puppies
0:33:26.760,0:33:34.200
really and he counted eight puppies on
0:33:31.559,0:33:37.019
his tally because he knew he'd killed it
0:33:34.200,0:33:40.740
those puppies could only have been three
0:33:37.019,0:33:42.120
three days old maximum
0:33:40.740,0:33:44.940
and
0:33:42.120,0:33:46.140
that Rancher says hey you didn't get
0:33:44.940,0:33:47.519
these Coyotes out he said well yeah
0:33:46.140,0:33:49.740
there's a male but he doesn't have any
0:33:47.519,0:33:51.419
Puffs to feed and he said no I don't
0:33:49.740,0:33:53.460
think you understand the severity of the
0:33:51.419,0:33:55.440
situation there's males got two or three
0:33:53.460,0:33:59.100
of these little ones with him and he's
0:33:55.440,0:34:01.919
killing Lambs really and he went back in
0:33:59.100,0:34:03.539
there a month uh two months later two
0:34:01.919,0:34:05.760
and a half months later three months I
0:34:03.539,0:34:08.099
can't remember the exact time frame
0:34:05.760,0:34:10.320
but when he got there sure enough he
0:34:08.099,0:34:12.179
found the the lamb carcasses and he
0:34:10.320,0:34:14.700
found several dens
0:34:12.179,0:34:17.540
and when he called those coyotes in he
0:34:14.700,0:34:22.500
called the male and three pups really
0:34:17.540,0:34:24.359
and that male so he told me and no I
0:34:22.500,0:34:26.460
have no reason that he would lie to me
0:34:24.359,0:34:28.520
and he was a government Trapper his
0:34:26.460,0:34:30.899
entire life he lived to be 85 years old
0:34:28.520,0:34:32.879
he knew coyotes if you anybody knows
0:34:30.899,0:34:35.280
what a government Trapper is especially
0:34:32.879,0:34:38.099
West they they know coyotes that's for
0:34:35.280,0:34:40.980
sure so he told me that a coyote pup
0:34:38.099,0:34:43.320
could get three days of Mama's milk and
0:34:40.980,0:34:45.300
then that male got two or three I can't
0:34:43.320,0:34:47.159
remember he said two or three pups were
0:34:45.300,0:34:50.339
with him when he shot that male but he
0:34:47.159,0:34:53.220
got them all out of that uh
0:34:50.339,0:34:54.899
sheep ranchers fought but he said all
0:34:53.220,0:34:58.260
they could have got was three days of
0:34:54.899,0:35:00.060
milk at the most and then that Dad took
0:34:58.260,0:35:02.160
her by just letting them lick whatever
0:35:00.060,0:35:04.080
he was regurgitating and whatever you
0:35:02.160,0:35:06.660
know juices and whatever he said they
0:35:04.080,0:35:08.820
had they had to have their eyes closed
0:35:06.660,0:35:11.220
for 13 days then they had to be in the
0:35:08.820,0:35:14.040
den for the next you know
0:35:11.220,0:35:15.599
30 15 days and then they were poking
0:35:14.040,0:35:17.940
around and then he showed I think it was
0:35:15.599,0:35:20.240
90 days after they were born he killed
0:35:17.940,0:35:24.839
like two of the pups in the the adult
0:35:20.240,0:35:26.820
dad and he was he was the most shocked
0:35:24.839,0:35:29.040
of anybody he looked at me and said you
0:35:26.820,0:35:31.619
can tell me I'm lying but he said I saw
0:35:29.040,0:35:33.839
it with my own two eyes that male got
0:35:31.619,0:35:35.520
two or three of those pups through by
0:35:33.839,0:35:37.859
just letting them lick whatever he was
0:35:35.520,0:35:40.380
had in his mouth man and they had no
0:35:37.859,0:35:43.440
milk that's that's absolutely I honestly
0:35:40.380,0:35:45.540
believe that's how tough a coyote is is
0:35:43.440,0:35:47.460
they can have a couple days a couple
0:35:45.540,0:35:49.859
three days of mom's milk and then that
0:35:47.460,0:35:51.900
male would go in there and let him lick
0:35:49.859,0:35:53.520
on his whatever he was eating and
0:35:51.900,0:35:55.740
whatever he was regurgitating and
0:35:53.520,0:35:57.540
whatever they could survive on and he
0:35:55.740,0:35:59.640
said they didn't all make it and he said
0:35:57.540,0:36:01.140
in fact more than half of them died well
0:35:59.640,0:36:03.200
you know what kind of that's kind of a
0:36:01.140,0:36:05.160
testament to how good of a parent
0:36:03.200,0:36:08.520
coyotes are as well you know that's
0:36:05.160,0:36:10.680
pretty good stuff no and he he was
0:36:08.520,0:36:12.359
absolutely he said nobody will believe
0:36:10.680,0:36:14.220
you you'll see tell other he said I've
0:36:12.359,0:36:15.540
told guys that I've told guys that story
0:36:14.220,0:36:17.700
my whole life and everybody calls
0:36:15.540,0:36:19.500
[ __ ] and he said but I saw with my
0:36:17.700,0:36:22.079
own two eyes that that male got a couple
0:36:19.500,0:36:25.440
three of his pups through and he he did
0:36:22.079,0:36:27.300
it with only three days of uh
0:36:25.440,0:36:28.800
you know that Mom could only have been
0:36:27.300,0:36:31.079
with him for three days and then the
0:36:28.800,0:36:34.079
male did the rest and so that just tells
0:36:31.079,0:36:36.300
you how tough they are and so don't ever
0:36:34.079,0:36:38.880
underestimate the survivability of these
0:36:36.300,0:36:41.460
coyotes because it just every time I
0:36:38.880,0:36:44.099
hear something about a blind coyote or a
0:36:41.460,0:36:46.800
story like that that Roland told me I
0:36:44.099,0:36:48.900
just I uh it doesn't surprise me anymore
0:36:46.800,0:36:50.520
hey we was talking about uh you know him
0:36:48.900,0:36:52.260
killing that blind coyote like this
0:36:50.520,0:36:55.200
coyote actually didn't have eyes I mean
0:36:52.260,0:36:57.780
he was blind yeah we saw a question on
0:36:55.200,0:37:00.420
Facebook not too long ago asking about
0:36:57.780,0:37:01.920
how a coyote uses his nose and stuff
0:37:00.420,0:37:04.800
like that and I actually made a comment
0:37:01.920,0:37:07.740
on this post that said that in general
0:37:04.800,0:37:11.339
every move that a coyote makes is
0:37:07.740,0:37:13.200
dictated by its nose this coat has
0:37:11.339,0:37:15.420
survived by its nose it didn't have to
0:37:13.200,0:37:17.040
see stuff it went around its life I mean
0:37:15.420,0:37:18.960
this wasn't like it was a puppy coyote
0:37:17.040,0:37:21.060
this is adult coyote just killed what
0:37:18.960,0:37:23.160
was it last week his past week anyway
0:37:21.060,0:37:25.220
yeah that coyote has survived was
0:37:23.160,0:37:28.320
nothing but being able to hear
0:37:25.220,0:37:29.880
and smell and taste you know what I mean
0:37:28.320,0:37:31.619
it could not say something you didn't
0:37:29.880,0:37:34.800
have a walking cane how would he know
0:37:31.619,0:37:37.560
where a soap weed was a cactus I mean
0:37:34.800,0:37:41.339
wow good Heavens wow you know just when
0:37:37.560,0:37:43.800
you think about that and uh that coyotes
0:37:41.339,0:37:45.900
lived with no eyes obviously other
0:37:43.800,0:37:47.700
coyotes probably you know when they'd
0:37:45.900,0:37:49.800
get a kill or something which the air or
0:37:47.700,0:37:52.320
hell and Maybe not maybe that coyote was
0:37:49.800,0:37:54.240
just one tough dude well I guarantee you
0:37:52.320,0:37:56.460
it was tough I mean just it just I think
0:37:54.240,0:37:58.800
it just reiterates what I said every
0:37:56.460,0:38:02.700
move that a coyote makes is dictated but
0:37:58.800,0:38:06.960
we can talk about that so you know I uh
0:38:02.700,0:38:08.220
I used to John when I used to set up
0:38:06.960,0:38:10.980
um the only thing I ever worried about
0:38:08.220,0:38:13.500
was the wind you know the sun was
0:38:10.980,0:38:17.099
optional the you know I always wanted
0:38:13.500,0:38:20.579
the wind in my face yep and now the last
0:38:17.099,0:38:23.460
five ten years videoing and whatnot
0:38:20.579,0:38:25.140
um I'll take a crosswind I'll take I'll
0:38:23.460,0:38:28.020
look straight downwind if that's the
0:38:25.140,0:38:30.240
only opening is straight downwind I will
0:38:28.020,0:38:31.500
call to that opening and try and shoot
0:38:30.240,0:38:34.200
him before they can get to where they
0:38:31.500,0:38:36.300
can smell me right you know and I know
0:38:34.200,0:38:37.740
some guys uh I know guys that have gone
0:38:36.300,0:38:39.359
at the world championship told me we
0:38:37.740,0:38:41.040
hunted all day and the only thing we did
0:38:39.359,0:38:42.720
was look downwind because every Kyle was
0:38:41.040,0:38:45.000
two to three hundred four hundred yards
0:38:42.720,0:38:47.579
downwind yep and those guys were some
0:38:45.000,0:38:49.140
Shooters and they had done and I mean
0:38:47.579,0:38:51.839
that's the thing we get asked about wind
0:38:49.140,0:38:54.359
all the time and and I think just the
0:38:51.839,0:38:57.119
easiest way to sum up sum up hunting the
0:38:54.359,0:38:58.980
wind uh when it comes to coyotes is the
0:38:57.119,0:39:01.380
main thing you got to worry about is
0:38:58.980,0:39:03.900
when you start calling is that your win
0:39:01.380,0:39:05.880
it's not blowing from you to where a
0:39:03.900,0:39:09.240
coyote sitting at if that happens one
0:39:05.880,0:39:10.859
smells you it's over with but hey if it
0:39:09.240,0:39:12.660
takes a win at you back if it takes a
0:39:10.859,0:39:15.240
win in your face Crosswinds left and
0:39:12.660,0:39:16.500
right whatever you can uh hunt to get a
0:39:15.240,0:39:18.119
coyote killed you just don't want them
0:39:16.500,0:39:19.800
to smell you just gotta be able to kill
0:39:18.119,0:39:22.440
them before they get downwind of you
0:39:19.800,0:39:24.000
right out man that's a good way to sum
0:39:22.440,0:39:25.800
it up
0:39:24.000,0:39:27.420
um this spring calling
0:39:25.800,0:39:30.720
um end of summer and we'll we'll do
0:39:27.420,0:39:33.720
another podcast on summer calling but
0:39:30.720,0:39:35.880
um this spring I I like it so the the
0:39:33.720,0:39:38.520
weather's breaking it's not so cold
0:39:35.880,0:39:40.140
typically and you can get you're
0:39:38.520,0:39:41.660
starting to access some areas you
0:39:40.140,0:39:44.400
haven't been able to access all winter
0:39:41.660,0:39:46.440
and you've got all this you've it's
0:39:44.400,0:39:47.820
gonna you got the most coyotes hitting
0:39:46.440,0:39:49.980
the ground we're gonna have the most
0:39:47.820,0:39:54.300
coyotes for the year coming up in the
0:39:49.980,0:39:55.500
next 30 days and uh just that ability to
0:39:54.300,0:39:58.079
uh
0:39:55.500,0:40:00.180
um go around and access other areas that
0:39:58.079,0:40:02.099
you haven't been able to especially in
0:40:00.180,0:40:04.740
our country because of snow it's not a
0:40:02.099,0:40:06.119
factor for you guys and and in your
0:40:04.740,0:40:07.220
country because you can pretty much
0:40:06.119,0:40:11.640
access
0:40:07.220,0:40:13.560
it still is kind of a a renewal so to
0:40:11.640,0:40:15.660
speak because all these all these call
0:40:13.560,0:40:18.119
Shy coyotes you may have had trouble
0:40:15.660,0:40:20.400
with in the past this past year guess
0:40:18.119,0:40:23.160
what when those pups hit the ground it
0:40:20.400,0:40:24.660
resets their crazy you know they're just
0:40:23.160,0:40:26.339
like they called that's different this
0:40:24.660,0:40:28.680
time that's why I tell everybody this is
0:40:26.339,0:40:31.740
the this is what sets the rest of the
0:40:28.680,0:40:33.660
year a Colin and uh yeah they'll they'll
0:40:31.740,0:40:36.599
raise their pups they'll and then they
0:40:33.660,0:40:37.859
kick them out and uh in the fall and
0:40:36.599,0:40:39.960
they they kick them out because they
0:40:37.859,0:40:41.099
want to grow the pups for the following
0:40:39.960,0:40:42.900
year and they don't want those pups
0:40:41.099,0:40:44.820
eating food that they want for their
0:40:42.900,0:40:46.619
next crop and it's just a really
0:40:44.820,0:40:49.320
interesting the life cycle of a coyote
0:40:46.619,0:40:52.560
if a guy can go in there insert yourself
0:40:49.320,0:40:54.540
and with this x-24 with all the sound
0:40:52.560,0:40:56.820
options we have now there is no better
0:40:54.540,0:40:58.740
Library there is no we have the largest
0:40:56.820,0:41:01.320
Library we have the best library and now
0:40:58.740,0:41:04.619
teaming up with mfk we have no holes
0:41:01.320,0:41:07.079
there's no there's no vocals there's no
0:41:04.619,0:41:09.900
pups there's no there's nothing missing
0:41:07.079,0:41:12.300
if you add some of that mfk library to
0:41:09.900,0:41:14.040
the Foxpro Library you're going to have
0:41:12.300,0:41:16.020
the tools in your Tackle Box you're
0:41:14.040,0:41:18.420
going to have the lures in you in that
0:41:16.020,0:41:19.740
tackle box that you take fishing it's
0:41:18.420,0:41:22.380
the same thing when we're calling
0:41:19.740,0:41:25.400
coyotes we're we're throwing out those
0:41:22.380,0:41:28.079
Downs as lures as we would for bass or
0:41:25.400,0:41:30.300
stripers or walleye whatever you like to
0:41:28.079,0:41:32.940
fish and we're trying to get them to
0:41:30.300,0:41:35.579
bite and that's the what are they going
0:41:32.940,0:41:37.619
to bite on and you it changes it can
0:41:35.579,0:41:39.599
change day to day but
0:41:37.619,0:41:43.380
um if you arm yourself with some of this
0:41:39.599,0:41:46.079
I mean I really I really have come full
0:41:43.380,0:41:49.200
circle since we've got this mfk library
0:41:46.079,0:41:52.200
and I've got them all now and got all
0:41:49.200,0:41:54.900
the sounds and it's just it really has
0:41:52.200,0:41:57.960
come full circle for me that I can go in
0:41:54.900,0:42:00.839
there arm up and play this scenario of
0:41:57.960,0:42:03.599
strange coyotes in an area then I can go
0:42:00.839,0:42:07.380
to distress if I don't go to pray this
0:42:03.599,0:42:09.660
dress I go to uh pups and then some pup
0:42:07.380,0:42:12.660
distress and then some pup fights and
0:42:09.660,0:42:16.079
then some major fights and then if it's
0:42:12.660,0:42:17.640
this time of year I can play uh prey
0:42:16.079,0:42:19.859
distress of some you know weird
0:42:17.640,0:42:21.599
description after it and then I can do
0:42:19.859,0:42:24.540
the pup screens and the pup distress
0:42:21.599,0:42:26.160
three and if there's a coyote there I
0:42:24.540,0:42:28.740
honestly think they have to come look
0:42:26.160,0:42:30.540
and that's what I've been I've proved
0:42:28.740,0:42:33.300
that you know if you just watch our
0:42:30.540,0:42:36.000
videos when we were out in uh when were
0:42:33.300,0:42:38.520
we in Arizona November October is
0:42:36.000,0:42:39.839
October October yeah end of October I
0:42:38.520,0:42:41.760
think it was actually it was actually
0:42:39.839,0:42:44.339
first out first like first week or two
0:42:41.760,0:42:47.040
October who was it I mean so that's
0:42:44.339,0:42:49.440
Prime prey distress time but if you
0:42:47.040,0:42:51.960
remember I opened up every stand with C5
0:42:49.440,0:42:53.820
and little B winter yeah oh yeah we had
0:42:51.960,0:42:55.920
coyotes Lantern had coyotes come to it
0:42:53.820,0:42:58.800
as well yes yeah we didn't even have to
0:42:55.920,0:43:01.140
play any distress they were there I
0:42:58.800,0:43:03.780
really think that you've got you've got
0:43:01.140,0:43:05.520
those five cylinders that'll make a
0:43:03.780,0:43:07.500
coyote come and you know other guys
0:43:05.520,0:43:12.060
calling can call them stages other guys
0:43:07.500,0:43:14.339
can can you know go to their their
0:43:12.060,0:43:15.839
special sounds I I like watching some of
0:43:14.339,0:43:17.339
these guys that have sounds they won't
0:43:15.839,0:43:19.500
air on their videos because they think
0:43:17.339,0:43:22.260
they're so special the secret sounds the
0:43:19.500,0:43:24.780
secrets the secret sounds and here me
0:43:22.260,0:43:26.760
and you we Have No Secrets you can watch
0:43:24.780,0:43:29.339
everything we do you can listen to
0:43:26.760,0:43:32.880
everything we play on this Foxpro
0:43:29.339,0:43:36.180
hunting TV and you know you'll see this
0:43:32.880,0:43:37.920
first of January we we howl and and it
0:43:36.180,0:43:40.500
was really fun for my first coyote of
0:43:37.920,0:43:41.760
2023 to be a shotgun coyote at 15 yards
0:43:40.500,0:43:43.319
everybody makes a big deal out of
0:43:41.760,0:43:45.660
shotgun coyotes but it's just how you
0:43:43.319,0:43:46.980
set up yep and it was Heavy wind and we
0:43:45.660,0:43:49.260
just happened to set up close to the
0:43:46.980,0:43:51.720
call because of the way that stand laid
0:43:49.260,0:43:55.319
out and coyote come by us at seven yards
0:43:51.720,0:43:57.720
goes up noses the collar at at uh 10
0:43:55.319,0:43:59.160
yards and then he took off so fast I
0:43:57.720,0:44:01.380
missed with my first shot and killed him
0:43:59.160,0:44:03.480
with the second but and then the next
0:44:01.380,0:44:06.119
stand you'll see on this this week's
0:44:03.480,0:44:07.440
episode is is that coyote jumping five
0:44:06.119,0:44:11.160
feet into the tree to get that
0:44:07.440,0:44:13.500
woodpecker I was playing woodpecker bag
0:44:11.160,0:44:15.319
on Tom I so mad at him why didn't he
0:44:13.500,0:44:19.640
roll that coyote up
0:44:15.319,0:44:23.339
I'm awesome I'm calling you out son
0:44:19.640,0:44:25.440
and but Tom was so flustered because
0:44:23.339,0:44:27.060
we've done done this our whole lives you
0:44:25.440,0:44:28.859
know Tom's called his whole life I've
0:44:27.060,0:44:32.099
called my whole life you've called your
0:44:28.859,0:44:35.640
whole life but to see a coyote run past
0:44:32.099,0:44:39.540
us at 35 yards if he'd had a shot all he
0:44:35.640,0:44:41.520
had was my AR-10 308 and that coyote
0:44:39.540,0:44:43.319
runs by us at 35 yards and runs out
0:44:41.520,0:44:45.900
there to the 50 60 yards we put the
0:44:43.319,0:44:47.819
collar out in this metal and that sucker
0:44:45.900,0:44:50.280
launched five I wonder how many
0:44:47.819,0:44:52.440
woodpeckers that coyote has ate out of a
0:44:50.280,0:44:54.420
tree yeah you guys need to check his
0:44:52.440,0:44:57.119
show out this this show will actually
0:44:54.420,0:44:59.400
when this airs uh that show will be at
0:44:57.119,0:45:01.680
will come out not this past weekend but
0:44:59.400,0:45:03.420
the weekend before make sure you guys go
0:45:01.680,0:45:06.180
watch at the very first stand on our
0:45:03.420,0:45:10.020
owls going to mow down a coyote with a
0:45:06.180,0:45:11.760
shotgun at 15 Steps and then the next
0:45:10.020,0:45:13.260
stand is the stand he's just sitting
0:45:11.760,0:45:15.180
there telling you about there's this
0:45:13.260,0:45:17.940
coyote comes darkney and they have got
0:45:15.180,0:45:20.400
the x-24 set up in this tree and this
0:45:17.940,0:45:23.460
coyote comes in and just launches itself
0:45:20.400,0:45:25.520
I mean jumps what five six foot up an
0:45:23.460,0:45:25.520
hour
0:45:30.319,0:45:33.619
it's not like he just jumps up there and
0:45:32.520,0:45:36.859
nips at it
0:45:33.619,0:45:39.060
like he was tackling a tree it's crazy
0:45:36.859,0:45:41.040
he was trying to get him a bird before
0:45:39.060,0:45:44.339
the bird flew off it's like he had done
0:45:41.040,0:45:50.339
that before yes and then Tom Tom ran my
0:45:44.339,0:45:53.540
uh clear that magazine I had a 308 165 a
0:45:50.339,0:45:53.540
Hornady he ran or dry
0:45:54.200,0:45:57.200
yeah
0:45:57.920,0:46:03.660
no when you're that excited and it's it
0:46:01.319,0:46:05.880
wasn't his gun he wasn't used to it it
0:46:03.660,0:46:07.560
happened really fast he just I got him
0:46:05.880,0:46:09.359
out from behind the camera got him in
0:46:07.560,0:46:12.300
front of it but the very next stand he
0:46:09.359,0:46:15.240
got to redeem himself he did he did yeah
0:46:12.300,0:46:17.640
we got the one on a chest yeah no we got
0:46:15.240,0:46:20.040
him to come right out at you know 50 60
0:46:17.640,0:46:22.380
yards and he he shot him just like we
0:46:20.040,0:46:25.560
should but he was still you could see
0:46:22.380,0:46:27.180
the adrenaline in Tom uh just to have
0:46:25.560,0:46:28.800
that close experience and it was the
0:46:27.180,0:46:31.740
sounds we didn't do anything different I
0:46:28.800,0:46:34.500
played C5 little B one for pup how you
0:46:31.740,0:46:36.119
can play Thor female sword you can add
0:46:34.500,0:46:38.640
different howls and there's so many
0:46:36.119,0:46:40.440
howls now that I mean I still haven't
0:46:38.640,0:46:42.060
played through them all and I know
0:46:40.440,0:46:44.760
there's going to be better howls to use
0:46:42.060,0:46:48.000
but that's just it a guy's got to get
0:46:44.760,0:46:50.640
out and use these sounds and um I just
0:46:48.000,0:46:51.660
really think it'll it'll open up a whole
0:46:50.640,0:46:53.819
nother
0:46:51.660,0:46:56.099
it'll it'll take you to the next level
0:46:53.819,0:46:58.020
John and that's the I guess that's the
0:46:56.099,0:46:59.280
what everybody listens to a podcast for
0:46:58.020,0:47:01.800
is what's going to take them to that
0:46:59.280,0:47:03.900
next level get them a Next Level caller
0:47:01.800,0:47:05.520
and I just think this is it I mean and
0:47:03.900,0:47:07.260
that's and that's the thing I also
0:47:05.520,0:47:09.060
mentioned earlier about secret sounds
0:47:07.260,0:47:10.920
and we don't have secrets I mean that's
0:47:09.060,0:47:12.900
that's the reason we do Foxpro hunting
0:47:10.920,0:47:15.180
TV that's a reason we do is podcasts we
0:47:12.900,0:47:16.859
want to see you guys be successful we're
0:47:15.180,0:47:18.960
going to show you what's working for us
0:47:16.859,0:47:20.760
what sounds we're running how we're
0:47:18.960,0:47:22.020
setting up our stands everything we're
0:47:20.760,0:47:24.660
doing and then of course we're going to
0:47:22.020,0:47:26.760
talk about it on this podcast uh we want
0:47:24.660,0:47:29.040
you guys to be successful we do not want
0:47:26.760,0:47:30.660
you to take a Foxpro unit and go out
0:47:29.040,0:47:33.000
there and struggle we'll show you what
0:47:30.660,0:47:34.680
what you can put into play and I'll have
0:47:33.000,0:47:38.520
the coyote rolling into you year round
0:47:34.680,0:47:40.740
and uh Hey and hey we know that putting
0:47:38.520,0:47:43.200
it on video it looks easy but it's not
0:47:40.740,0:47:45.300
we didn't show you the seven stands you
0:47:43.200,0:47:46.980
know you'll hear me on that video say we
0:47:45.300,0:47:49.859
made three or four stands that morning
0:47:46.980,0:47:52.859
and blanked nothing in some really good
0:47:49.859,0:47:54.900
area and then the wind picks up you know
0:47:52.859,0:47:56.339
all morning long we had no wind it was
0:47:54.900,0:47:57.839
perfect and we couldn't call a coyote
0:47:56.339,0:47:59.400
and then all sudden the wind starts
0:47:57.839,0:48:02.280
blowing and we started calling coyotes
0:47:59.400,0:48:04.380
and it was just I I don't understand I
0:48:02.280,0:48:07.380
don't know we haven't figured out all
0:48:04.380,0:48:10.560
the parameters that make a good call-in
0:48:07.380,0:48:11.880
stand but we we have established that if
0:48:10.560,0:48:14.700
you can uh
0:48:11.880,0:48:16.440
if you can use some of these sounds in
0:48:14.700,0:48:18.839
some of these scenarios we set you up in
0:48:16.440,0:48:20.700
we're successful from California Vermont
0:48:18.839,0:48:22.980
Texas to Alberta and points in between
0:48:20.700,0:48:24.660
that's right that's right well we're
0:48:22.980,0:48:26.880
starting to starting to run out of time
0:48:24.660,0:48:28.859
here but I've got just a couple more
0:48:26.880,0:48:30.359
questions I want to ask you just some
0:48:28.859,0:48:32.579
quick hit stuff you know always got to
0:48:30.359,0:48:34.380
see if I can't tell you to you know get
0:48:32.579,0:48:35.900
you to tell some of your deep deep
0:48:34.380,0:48:39.240
Secrets
0:48:35.900,0:48:42.720
fire away John Collins well the thing is
0:48:39.240,0:48:45.119
I want to know what are your top three
0:48:42.720,0:48:46.740
favorite sounds for spring and what I'm
0:48:45.119,0:48:48.660
gonna what I want you to tell me I know
0:48:46.740,0:48:52.079
you're going to open your stand up with
0:48:48.660,0:48:54.240
with a house we know you love the C5
0:48:52.079,0:48:55.680
young coyote house and a little B
0:48:54.240,0:48:57.119
whimper house so I'm gonna go ahead and
0:48:55.680,0:49:00.000
give you those we know you're going to
0:48:57.119,0:49:02.700
play them watch your what what other
0:49:00.000,0:49:05.460
three sounds have you got to have in
0:49:02.700,0:49:08.819
your sound sequence for April May and
0:49:05.460,0:49:10.140
first part of June you've got to have
0:49:08.819,0:49:13.980
um
0:49:10.140,0:49:16.859
you know pups314 has just really come
0:49:13.980,0:49:19.560
it's head and shoulders as far as the
0:49:16.859,0:49:23.760
pup sounds that uh Steve Dillon put on
0:49:19.560,0:49:27.599
uh record that pops the pup pie we call
0:49:23.760,0:49:28.920
him three one four is just uh a go-to
0:49:27.599,0:49:32.300
sound
0:49:28.920,0:49:35.760
um you know that uh pops canine pups too
0:49:32.300,0:49:37.800
is pretty unbeatable and then I'm
0:49:35.760,0:49:40.619
probably gonna go with the got milk you
0:49:37.800,0:49:42.900
know one of those two
0:49:40.619,0:49:46.740
um that's gonna be this time of year
0:49:42.900,0:49:49.200
that's going to be my go-to go-to after
0:49:46.740,0:49:51.420
I've opened up those are going to be my
0:49:49.200,0:49:53.220
three sounds that I play next that's
0:49:51.420,0:49:55.920
going to get me to that 12 15 minute
0:49:53.220,0:49:57.359
Mark when and then the bulkier coyouts
0:49:55.920,0:49:59.700
are going to come between 7 and 12
0:49:57.359,0:50:03.119
minutes yeah I mean that through the
0:49:59.700,0:50:06.119
years that's been my number one 75 of
0:50:03.119,0:50:08.819
everything I call comes between 7 and 12
0:50:06.119,0:50:11.640
minutes so those sounds that you pick
0:50:08.819,0:50:13.740
you know the the hows are important and
0:50:11.640,0:50:15.599
then the next couple three sounds that
0:50:13.740,0:50:17.400
get you to that seven to twelve minutes
0:50:15.599,0:50:19.560
are going to be the most important
0:50:17.400,0:50:22.920
sounds you play awesome that's good
0:50:19.560,0:50:24.540
stuff Hal yeah I coyote pup three one
0:50:22.920,0:50:26.220
four I've been pile them up that sound
0:50:24.540,0:50:28.319
ever since Steve put that one out that's
0:50:26.220,0:50:30.960
one of my favorite it actually became a
0:50:28.319,0:50:34.319
favorite that one in 10. is number two
0:50:30.960,0:50:37.200
nutty nut puffers yup that's just been
0:50:34.319,0:50:39.300
you know a Nutty nut hack she's one of
0:50:37.200,0:50:43.380
my favorite distress sounds a Nutty nut
0:50:39.300,0:50:45.720
pup is I mean it and puffs 314 you will
0:50:43.380,0:50:46.980
Al Morris will be playing those all of
0:50:45.720,0:50:49.140
the month of April and all the month of
0:50:46.980,0:50:51.000
May yep and and two more sounds that are
0:50:49.140,0:50:53.460
very comparable from the that I think
0:50:51.000,0:50:56.040
are real this like close on our heels
0:50:53.460,0:50:58.079
from Fox Pro that are newer sounds are
0:50:56.040,0:51:00.000
10 Town pups kind of similar to Coyote
0:50:58.079,0:51:02.700
pup three one four and then another
0:51:00.000,0:51:05.339
sound is similar to nutty nut puff is HP
0:51:02.700,0:51:08.400
coyote puff that is an absolute killer
0:51:05.339,0:51:11.160
as well and wigged out has killed me a
0:51:08.400,0:51:12.839
bunch of coyotes so yep and then some
0:51:11.160,0:51:15.900
some other good honorable mentions that
0:51:12.839,0:51:18.359
we haven't discussed uh mfk broke pups
0:51:15.900,0:51:20.579
that is one awesome sound right there
0:51:18.359,0:51:21.839
and then probably my favorite uh pups
0:51:20.579,0:51:24.900
down from them when you get up to the
0:51:21.839,0:51:29.119
three week five weeks all that stuff man
0:51:24.900,0:51:33.599
yeah especially for for May through June
0:51:29.119,0:51:34.760
July is mfk Boon pup seven week I don't
0:51:33.599,0:51:37.920
know what it is
0:51:34.760,0:51:39.900
a lot of coyotes to it well and he's got
0:51:37.920,0:51:40.500
a great Boone house you know some of
0:51:39.900,0:51:43.619
those
0:51:40.500,0:51:45.240
the moon house are amazing they're just
0:51:43.619,0:51:47.940
they're right there with little B and
0:51:45.240,0:51:51.180
and then he's I think he I think mfk has
0:51:47.940,0:51:53.940
a pup fight it's called and it's awesome
0:51:51.180,0:51:56.040
too they've got some several pup fights
0:51:53.940,0:51:57.960
since the thing or so several of the pup
0:51:56.040,0:51:59.280
fights and don't don't skip over them
0:51:57.960,0:52:01.020
you know we'll start playing some of
0:51:59.280,0:52:02.700
them see what works for you a lot of
0:52:01.020,0:52:05.220
great sounds out there from the Foxpro
0:52:02.700,0:52:07.559
Library awesome sounds from mfk library
0:52:05.220,0:52:08.819
as well put them into play they're out
0:52:07.559,0:52:11.280
there you can put them on your Fox Pro
0:52:08.819,0:52:13.800
collar I never thought I'd ever need you
0:52:11.280,0:52:15.720
know I thought who why a tx1000 it's
0:52:13.800,0:52:17.160
only got you know it can hold a thousand
0:52:15.720,0:52:19.680
sounds I'll never have a thousand sounds
0:52:17.160,0:52:21.240
well now the x48 is coming and it can
0:52:19.680,0:52:23.760
hold 2 000 and guess what I'm gonna have
0:52:21.240,0:52:26.460
one thousand fill it up I'm going to
0:52:23.760,0:52:29.160
fill it up I I guarantee you cannot have
0:52:26.460,0:52:31.619
enough sounds because there is if you
0:52:29.160,0:52:33.359
can sit there and watch a coyote react
0:52:31.619,0:52:35.099
you can sit there and go through your
0:52:33.359,0:52:38.400
libraries and you'll find those little
0:52:35.099,0:52:40.380
triggers that I mean I'm amazed how I I
0:52:38.400,0:52:42.660
can still revert back to Vol squeaks if
0:52:40.380,0:52:44.640
I Kyle's hung up at three 400 yards I
0:52:42.660,0:52:46.260
can switch back to full squeaks I did it
0:52:44.640,0:52:47.760
the other night in Texas we've done all
0:52:46.260,0:52:49.920
this howling we've done all this other
0:52:47.760,0:52:51.240
stuff I was doing the pop fights I was
0:52:49.920,0:52:54.059
doing all these sounds that I thought I
0:52:51.240,0:52:56.579
needed to do and man I switched over to
0:52:54.059,0:52:58.260
ball squeaks and building squirrel and
0:52:56.579,0:53:00.660
dang if those coyotes didn't kick up
0:52:58.260,0:53:02.520
their heels and running and never and so
0:53:00.660,0:53:04.500
you just you don't know what's going to
0:53:02.520,0:53:07.079
trigger them off that's why having more
0:53:04.500,0:53:09.839
sounds and the access to more sounds for
0:53:07.079,0:53:12.540
a good price is important it's good
0:53:09.839,0:53:15.119
value Foxpro and mfk gives you good
0:53:12.540,0:53:17.460
value that's right from the and the best
0:53:15.119,0:53:19.260
sounds on the market well I appreciate
0:53:17.460,0:53:21.300
you coming on oh buddy
0:53:19.260,0:53:23.220
hey John it's always a good time I can't
0:53:21.300,0:53:25.500
wait to share another stand with you and
0:53:23.220,0:53:28.200
uh you know we're Foxpro we do it right
0:53:25.500,0:53:31.140
we do it year round and me and you we
0:53:28.200,0:53:33.059
live for this that's right hey we gotta
0:53:31.140,0:53:35.940
hey we gotta get us a hunt going for his
0:53:33.059,0:53:37.380
summer oh yeah no you're coming to
0:53:35.940,0:53:38.819
Wyoming I ought to just drive over there
0:53:37.380,0:53:40.680
and meet you and your brother and we'll
0:53:38.819,0:53:42.540
all show up with them mangy dogs and
0:53:40.680,0:53:44.760
we'll go hit them hey that sounds like a
0:53:42.540,0:53:46.500
plan to me we hope everyone enjoyed this
0:53:44.760,0:53:49.579
episode we hope you join us again right
0:53:46.500,0:53:49.579
here on the Foxpro podcast