FOXPRO's Jon Collins discusses coyote and hog hunting, day and night hunting with the "TX Killer," Anthony Amantine.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls man
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we've got a fun one for you welcome back
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to the Foxpro podcast I'm excited about
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this episode we have got the Texas
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killer Anthony Amantine on the line
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what's going on Anthony
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what's going on John you've been you've
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been doing all right but hey I saw were
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you I saw in your Instagram stories
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there I don't know if it's this morning
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or years to be holding up pretty big
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pretty good sized bass
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it's been crazy with the Piston
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um folks folks at following my social
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media don't see too much fishing but
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whenever it turns on I'm all over it
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right and it started on Super Bowl
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weekend and we were catching six seven
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Pounders just average out of that little
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Lake and we've been we've been going
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after this big one there's there's one
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that we I caught one personally that I
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know for a fact went over 10 pounds and
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I lost it right up on the side of the
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dock I don't know it's a heartbreaker so
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yeah I've been after them ever since and
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yesterday I caught one that was 6.25
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they've already laid their eggs but
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still a good sized bass I'm pretty
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stoked right now I don't know dude
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that's awesome and I was Tom talking
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earlier with you said uh he was on
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vacation last week and got to had the
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opportunity to do a little coyote
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hunting oh yeah yeah you know when you
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when you hit it hard would work and it's
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been non-stop sometimes I just take a
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you know take time off to hunt I call I
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call it my my kill vacation you know
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right and
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accumulation you kill basement There You
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Go Kill basement and uh I uh I I told my
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wife I said it's going to be non-stop
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hunting for me I'm gonna hunt every
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single night and I did it was seven days
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straight straight hunting pigs and
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coyotes awesome awesome and how many
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coyotes you say you killed
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13. I killed 13 myself and then I had a
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guest come out and he got three himself
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nice nice That's pretty good especially
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for this time of year you know kind of
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late season stuff getting into last week
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of March and into April or in April now
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so man that's you know sometimes calling
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be pretty tough you know there's been a
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lot of coyote skills yeah it's it was
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really weird and and John is this is
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this this Ranch was 1100 Acres but I'm
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killing a huge majority of these coyotes
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on 11 acres oh man of that of that it's
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it's all in one corner of this property
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that's it's it's bordered up to core
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property and another piece of property
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that they don't call on yeah so the the
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it's like a rotation of coyotes coming
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through there you know and it's it's
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been awesome in that corner but back to
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the calling
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crazy you said that because
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um I was on another piece of property
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where we we killed over 30 coyotes in I
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think it was like eight or nine hours I
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went back to that same spot to do some
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calling it was the toughest hunt I've
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ever had they just they just wasn't
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responding they just weren't responding
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and I I think it's the time of the year
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Well I you know you was talking about
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one cool thing you said said you killing
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all these coyotes off like a little 11
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acre pasture or whatever it is that kind
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of It kind of shows you that you don't
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always have to have big acres to stack
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up the coyotes sometimes you just gotta
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have the right the right Acres you know
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those rights acreage you nailed it you
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nailed it that's pretty good stuff well
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guys and gals is listening if you ain't
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following Anthony on Instagram and
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YouTube you are missing out Anthony's
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pages are actually some of my personal
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favorites to follow tons of entertaining
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and important informative content
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Anthony you don't uh you care to tell us
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a bit more about yourself
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um sure
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um I've uh I I I'll be 100 honest with
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everybody here I I haven't been doing
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this my entire life like a lot of the
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OG's out there you know there's guys
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that they've been hunting since they
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were kids and and I wasn't I wasn't
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around that kind of stuff when I was
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younger so I got into the game really
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late but I have been hunting for almost
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20 years now and
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um I I got into it working on a ranch it
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was a horse ranch
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um I was out there just doing regular
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old hand work and I started noticing
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that there was a huge pig and coyote
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problem uh there was no hunting on the
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property
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um eventually I got in
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um I had access to hunt you know so I I
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learned a lot on my own uh learning from
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my friends
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um you know watching shows back then it
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was TV shows and reading magazines you
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know right
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um but uh I I got hooked and and when I
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mean I got hooked my life is dedicated
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to what I'm doing and it's it's part of
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my job and uh it's part of my lifestyle
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there's no doubt you're all in that's
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for sure I'm all in well that's that's
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awesome I know one thing you or
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straight up a Hog's worst nightmare talk
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to us about hog hunting a little bit
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okay so
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um you know you know back to you know
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being on that ranch and seeing what the
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Halls were like I couldn't believe it we
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work on fence and you'll see these pigs
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running across the field broad daylight
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and I'm like are those pigs in there
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like yeah they're everywhere and I'm
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like okay so I started looking into it
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and I couldn't believe that you can hunt
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you know at this time I didn't know so
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it was like you could hunt coyotes all
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year long by any means necessary and I
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was like whoa like there must be what's
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what's going on here you know so I
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started looking into it and of course
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you know anybody that knows anything
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about hunting they know there's an
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invasive species so
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um they have to be put in check in the
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numbers that I was seeing around the
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ranch and all the other ranches that I
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got access to it was just jaw-dropping
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and it's it's Non-Stop action and you
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have to be on them so let's just say
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you're out there two three two three
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weeks out of the year that's that's
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doing nothing right you have to be on
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top of them every single week and
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I've I don't know what it was John I
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just got addicted to it and I started
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getting into the night game with night
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vision and thermals and all right
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different rifles and it it turned into
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an addiction dude it's uh I'll tell you
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what that's some of my favorite content
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you put out is is some of this hog stuff
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and I tell you what what were my
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absolute favorite like you said pretty
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much any means necessary but my favorite
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vids is when you all are cruising around
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on the canned ham and yeah you guys did
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hear me right I said can hang on you
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know what I can't Can-Am is well he's
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turned his Can-Am into the canned ham
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yeah yeah
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that rig is uh that's a that's one of my
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major that's one of my key tools if I
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don't have it I won't hunt man man y'all
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gotta go check that stuff out he's gonna
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get to cruising around on these ranches
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and find these Hogs and just start be
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right on their hind end and somebody
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hangs out to the side or out the front
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window
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yeah I don't like doing that it happens
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though and I don't want people to think
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I'm intentionally doing it but it just
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happens and I've I've almost flipped the
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rig and I broke tie rods and it's it's
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sketchy so I I try not to but there's so
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many sometimes that it's hard to avoid
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them you know it's hard to avoid them
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those are the coolest videos
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it's something else my co-worker Rich he
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does it with his Toyota which is a lot
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safer right but with the buggy you got
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to do your best not to hit those big
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ones they'll roll you well it's hard to
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come up with a cool name for a Toyota
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but
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yeah the canned ham Works dude the cam
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Hand Works that's right what about uh
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what about what's your favorite caliber
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for Hogs I mean you shooting I mean how
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many are you shooting a year I mean
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hundreds hundreds a year thousands I
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don't know I I'll be honest with you
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John I just don't keep a number on it
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um it's definitely in the hundreds but
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uh I I bounce around from different
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calibers
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um I'll have to say my my number one
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choice will probably be 308 yeah um I do
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shoot six five a lot six five Creedmoor
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yeah um I do shoot two two three uh 762
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by 39 so I bounce from different
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cartridges but I'll have to say at the
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end of the day 308 is probably my
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favorite I got you I got you well I know
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uh all the kill shot reels and kill shot
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vids they ain't uh they ain't twitching
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much so I know which a lot of us got to
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do with some good Marksmanship as well
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but uh yes sir the rigs are dialed in
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you cut that right and speaking of the
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rigs you shoot some really nice you know
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coyote and hog rigs both ARs and bolt
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guns yes sir once you watch your
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favorite you a bulk man or Arman you
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know like put this way say if I come in
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Anthony I said dude you got to give one
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of them up we're gonna take both or ar
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bolt gun nice
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and if folks know that folks are seeing
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it on my page they they know I have a
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true love for Bowl guns and that's where
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if if you've been in the game for quite
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some time and I'm not talking about you
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know nothing against the younger folks
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but if you if you've been in the game
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for a while you started with a bolt
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action yep you started with the boat
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that's where you learned that's that it
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just starts there for me and then I got
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into the ARs and I love the ARs I have
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plenty of them but they have their place
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and at the end of the day when it comes
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to you know Marksmanship accuracy
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reliability
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I I just I just love both both actions
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yeah hey hashtag boat gang for Life bowl
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game for life that's right John's
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looking at the hashtag yeah I know
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what's going on you know I'm a boat gun
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man yeah you are yeah you are hashtag
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boat gang I'm a member card carrying
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member of the boat
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but you do hey you do run some pretty
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cool AR rigs too you know yeah very
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efficient very efficient you know setups
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so yeah I I love them I still love my
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ARS it's just I got to a point where I
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started getting really sloppy
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um you know you you you miss a first
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shot or you missed a follow-up and you
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just start dumping you know right and I
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I felt like that was really damaging
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from a from a Content perspective you
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know
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um I I just didn't like what I was
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seeing personally so I just made it a
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goal this year that I'm putting my ARS
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away so I separated all my ARS my bolt
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guns I put them in a different shades
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and I'm running nothing but bolt actions
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for 2023 and I feel like it's going to
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be something that's going to stick
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around for quite some time well I mean
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you know there's definitely advantages
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to the AR setup especially for uh you
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know mag capacity a lot of times you can
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run mags detachable mags and bolt guns
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as well but uh one big thing I see
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especially for for hog hunting and
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coyote hunting is if you are running AR
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style at night with a thermal or night
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vision or whatever you don't have to
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come up out of that gun to work your
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boat you know you're always right there
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exactly exactly they both have their
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their pros and their cons and I'm gonna
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tell you right now if you are not
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comfortable running a boat
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and you're trying to get up on a group
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of hogs you're going to make a mistake
0:11:44.459,0:11:48.860
you're going to hate it
0:11:46.100,0:11:51.839
you got to be able to run that bolt and
0:11:48.860,0:11:54.120
it's slower you know but
0:11:51.839,0:11:55.560
um you know the AR definitely has its
0:11:54.120,0:11:57.600
place I will tell you that I I
0:11:55.560,0:11:59.820
definitely stack them up a lot easier
0:11:57.600,0:12:01.200
with the AR but yeah
0:11:59.820,0:12:03.180
um but it goes back to the you know
0:12:01.200,0:12:05.040
delivering the content sensitivity and
0:12:03.180,0:12:07.079
stuff like that I just prefer the bolt
0:12:05.040,0:12:08.760
actually well you know and it translates
0:12:07.079,0:12:10.260
over to the coyote stuff too you know we
0:12:08.760,0:12:11.820
already touched kind of like at you know
0:12:10.260,0:12:13.019
on night hunting you know not having to
0:12:11.820,0:12:14.579
come up out of the site you know
0:12:13.019,0:12:17.300
especially if you call them multiple
0:12:14.579,0:12:19.740
coyotes and stuff but for daytime stuff
0:12:17.300,0:12:21.420
I'm telling you I truly believe if
0:12:19.740,0:12:23.279
you're a daytime Hunter I mean I know
0:12:21.420,0:12:24.720
there's always uh
0:12:23.279,0:12:26.940
um you know different stuff that goes on
0:12:24.720,0:12:28.980
and people's more uh comfortable with
0:12:26.940,0:12:32.640
different platforms and everything but I
0:12:28.980,0:12:34.920
truly believe that you can actually if
0:12:32.640,0:12:36.720
you'll get everything just right you'll
0:12:34.920,0:12:38.940
actually kill more coyotes during
0:12:36.720,0:12:40.860
daytime hunting with a bolt gun I think
0:12:38.940,0:12:42.600
you'll be a lot more efficient and it's
0:12:40.860,0:12:44.279
for multiple reasons seasons and you
0:12:42.600,0:12:46.260
kind of said one of them you can get a
0:12:44.279,0:12:47.579
little from time to time you get a
0:12:46.260,0:12:50.040
little sloppy with an AR because you
0:12:47.579,0:12:52.019
know you got this yeah right there yes
0:12:50.040,0:12:53.820
sir yes sir I'll tell you another
0:12:52.019,0:12:56.760
another thing that happens I think it's
0:12:53.820,0:12:59.040
for daytime coyote calling if when you
0:12:56.760,0:13:01.680
do have those ARs and it's just personal
0:12:59.040,0:13:03.420
opinion okay I'm not saying this is the
0:13:01.680,0:13:06.600
gospel or scripture or nothing like that
0:13:03.420,0:13:08.940
but okay I think you can kill a lot more
0:13:06.600,0:13:10.980
multiple coyotes if you'll use your call
0:13:08.940,0:13:12.480
if you'll use that Foxpro unit that's
0:13:10.980,0:13:14.339
the reason we got presets on these
0:13:12.480,0:13:17.820
things you know I had my first several
0:13:14.339,0:13:20.040
presets or or hows coyote fights and pup
0:13:17.820,0:13:22.260
distresses and the main reason that for
0:13:20.040,0:13:24.839
that is for stopping coyotes and calling
0:13:22.260,0:13:27.540
coyotes back in after that first shot
0:13:24.839,0:13:30.360
and I want to make every shot that I
0:13:27.540,0:13:31.920
take count so I'm I'm you rarely see me
0:13:30.360,0:13:33.360
shooting it running coyotes the only
0:13:31.920,0:13:35.700
time I'm shooting and running coyotes if
0:13:33.360,0:13:37.680
it's a last resort The Last Resort
0:13:35.700,0:13:40.139
that's right that's right and that's
0:13:37.680,0:13:42.180
that's where I think if you if you use
0:13:40.139,0:13:43.920
your call more to try to get coyote
0:13:42.180,0:13:45.660
stopped or called back in for a good
0:13:43.920,0:13:47.760
shot opportunity on that second third
0:13:45.660,0:13:49.980
and fourth coyote I think just think you
0:13:47.760,0:13:52.260
can efficiently kill kill multiples on
0:13:49.980,0:13:53.700
stand with a bolt gun you can't ARS if
0:13:52.260,0:13:56.180
you take that you take that you take
0:13:53.700,0:13:58.860
that mindset out you know what I mean
0:13:56.180,0:14:01.019
that's just me it's personal preface I
0:13:58.860,0:14:03.600
like no I I totally agree with you I've
0:14:01.019,0:14:05.760
been seeing it recently and I I just did
0:14:03.600,0:14:08.399
a video on um yesterday on on YouTube
0:14:05.760,0:14:09.899
talking about patience being paid a lot
0:14:08.399,0:14:11.820
of folks think okay let's just say we
0:14:09.899,0:14:13.920
have a pair coming in and this can be
0:14:11.820,0:14:15.660
day or night you have a pair coming in
0:14:13.920,0:14:17.180
you smoke that first one especially if
0:14:15.660,0:14:20.040
you're running suppressed
0:14:17.180,0:14:22.800
there's gonna be a good chance that
0:14:20.040,0:14:25.980
second Kyle is going to stop yes yes
0:14:22.800,0:14:29.220
there is a really good chance if you if
0:14:25.980,0:14:31.440
you uh how if you if you throw a call up
0:14:29.220,0:14:32.880
what whatever do everything you can to
0:14:31.440,0:14:35.100
try to stop that dog there's going to be
0:14:32.880,0:14:37.260
a good chance he's going to stop yep but
0:14:35.100,0:14:39.420
when you're behind that AR the first
0:14:37.260,0:14:43.519
thing that comes to your mind is I got
0:14:39.420,0:14:43.519
29 more rounds I can send at them
0:14:43.760,0:14:48.959
yeah pray and prayers pray and pray
0:14:46.380,0:14:50.880
however it goes pray and pray yeah it
0:14:48.959,0:14:52.920
drives me crazy yeah though you can
0:14:50.880,0:14:54.300
you're definitely gonna kill you have a
0:14:52.920,0:14:56.040
better chance of hitting a coyote if
0:14:54.300,0:15:00.000
he's standing still versus running I
0:14:56.040,0:15:02.040
want to go ahead yes sir yes sir
0:15:00.000,0:15:03.660
well let's let's talk about the coyote
0:15:02.040,0:15:05.339
caliber stuff for a little bit you you
0:15:03.660,0:15:06.959
told us what your favorite uh hog
0:15:05.339,0:15:08.820
caliber is what you what's your favorite
0:15:06.959,0:15:10.279
coyote caliber which I know you're 308
0:15:08.820,0:15:13.380
and your six fives
0:15:10.279,0:15:14.880
coyote out there but do you do you see
0:15:13.380,0:15:16.920
yourself yeah if you know you're
0:15:14.880,0:15:19.380
dedicated to Coyote stands for an
0:15:16.920,0:15:20.639
evening or whatever does that uh make a
0:15:19.380,0:15:23.160
decision on which caliber you're
0:15:20.639,0:15:25.680
carrying you know there's three of them
0:15:23.160,0:15:29.100
that I bounce back and forth from and
0:15:25.680,0:15:31.260
it's the same calibers that I use on
0:15:29.100,0:15:35.760
pigs but it's a different weight
0:15:31.260,0:15:39.120
so my 308 I love using 308 on coyotes
0:15:35.760,0:15:40.980
but it's a 115 grain bullet going about
0:15:39.120,0:15:42.300
three but going about three thousand
0:15:40.980,0:15:43.740
Thirty One hundred feet per second
0:15:42.300,0:15:46.800
depending on what barrel length I'm
0:15:43.740,0:15:48.480
using yep and it takes care of business
0:15:46.800,0:15:51.000
right right
0:15:48.480,0:15:53.040
um another one that I like to use is my
0:15:51.000,0:15:57.000
six five Creedmoor
0:15:53.040,0:15:59.040
um I'm slinging 122s on the 65 Creedmoor
0:15:57.000,0:16:01.320
does a really good job on those coyotes
0:15:59.040,0:16:04.079
especially at distance
0:16:01.320,0:16:05.519
um and I have to say and I know it's
0:16:04.079,0:16:07.560
going to make a lot of people cringe but
0:16:05.519,0:16:10.500
I love shooting my two two three on
0:16:07.560,0:16:12.839
coyote oh I absolutely love it there's
0:16:10.500,0:16:15.779
been tens of thousands of coyotes killed
0:16:12.839,0:16:17.880
with the 223. yeah two two three exactly
0:16:15.779,0:16:20.100
exactly I'm not gonna say it's my
0:16:17.880,0:16:21.660
favorite choice and I pick a lot I you
0:16:20.100,0:16:23.940
know I like others over it but I'll
0:16:21.660,0:16:26.040
never bad math a 223. you know if
0:16:23.940,0:16:29.160
somebody's going to carry that dude take
0:16:26.040,0:16:30.959
it and mow them down yes sir yes sir it
0:16:29.160,0:16:33.959
gets it gets the job done but I got some
0:16:30.959,0:16:36.959
other builds in the works I got a 22 250
0:16:33.959,0:16:39.000
and a 243 in the works not sure when
0:16:36.959,0:16:41.160
they're going to get done but
0:16:39.000,0:16:42.899
um I'm venturing off to other calibers
0:16:41.160,0:16:44.399
and I know I'm going to get even deeper
0:16:42.899,0:16:46.019
into it now that I'm building more boat
0:16:44.399,0:16:47.519
guns so
0:16:46.019,0:16:49.320
um but but right now those are my three
0:16:47.519,0:16:52.079
those are my three times if you're
0:16:49.320,0:16:55.620
especially if you're talking bolt gun uh
0:16:52.079,0:16:58.920
22 250 will do everything a 223 will do
0:16:55.620,0:17:00.720
and guess what a little bit more a
0:16:58.920,0:17:02.579
little bit more that's right a little
0:17:00.720,0:17:04.199
bit more a little bit quicker a little
0:17:02.579,0:17:05.220
bit quicker you see now the next thing
0:17:04.199,0:17:08.000
you're going to be doing you're going to
0:17:05.220,0:17:11.579
be building your 22 Creed
0:17:08.000,0:17:13.799
yeah they tried talking me into that uh
0:17:11.579,0:17:17.640
two months ago and I was like I don't
0:17:13.799,0:17:20.040
know yet man and it's filthy I gotta I
0:17:17.640,0:17:22.079
gotta try it I gotta try dude I'm I'm
0:17:20.040,0:17:24.600
you know I haven't shot mine I've got
0:17:22.079,0:17:25.860
two 22 Creeds and I haven't shot them in
0:17:24.600,0:17:28.980
a while because you know been running
0:17:25.860,0:17:30.059
some some some other stuff but man I
0:17:28.980,0:17:32.580
tell you what
0:17:30.059,0:17:37.500
well I'm running my 22 Creeds I'm
0:17:32.580,0:17:41.840
shooting an 80 grain ELD at over 3 400
0:17:37.500,0:17:45.059
feet per second absolutely smokes
0:17:41.840,0:17:48.179
got some good weight too yes added some
0:17:45.059,0:17:51.179
good weight right there I love I I'm
0:17:48.179,0:17:54.840
real big on rounds anywhere from you
0:17:51.179,0:17:56.760
know like a 60 68 75 eight I love that
0:17:54.840,0:17:59.280
range you know almost all the way up to
0:17:56.760,0:18:01.620
a 90 grain that's just a perfect weight
0:17:59.280,0:18:03.179
for coyotes you know and I tell you what
0:18:01.620,0:18:05.760
when you get to running the heavier
0:18:03.179,0:18:08.400
stuff in a in a 2-2 Force the the 22
0:18:05.760,0:18:11.400
cows like say if you're comparing your
0:18:08.400,0:18:14.580
22s to your 243s you know those six
0:18:11.400,0:18:17.400
millimeter stuff and say that 80 grain
0:18:14.580,0:18:20.580
range at 75 to 80 grain range I swear
0:18:17.400,0:18:23.000
especially like on coyote size game
0:18:20.580,0:18:26.580
um I think the the two two four stuff
0:18:23.000,0:18:30.620
actually performs better when it hits an
0:18:26.580,0:18:33.179
animal than the six millimeter stuff and
0:18:30.620,0:18:35.340
I'm talking about like at 80 grain range
0:18:33.179,0:18:36.780
it's something about that BC and just
0:18:35.340,0:18:38.700
how those bullets are constructed I
0:18:36.780,0:18:41.640
think it makes a difference dude yeah
0:18:38.700,0:18:43.320
yeah that's I I'm throwing an 87
0:18:41.640,0:18:44.400
um out of my six millimeter Creedmoor
0:18:43.320,0:18:47.220
which I'm having problems getting
0:18:44.400,0:18:48.720
projectiles but yep if I had all the
0:18:47.220,0:18:50.700
projectiles that I needed for that six
0:18:48.720,0:18:52.200
millimeter Creedmoor I'll probably be
0:18:50.700,0:18:54.240
shooting at the most but yeah
0:18:52.200,0:18:55.799
availability is killing me right now so
0:18:54.240,0:18:57.900
I can't shoot that gun as much as I want
0:18:55.799,0:19:00.120
yeah six Creed's another another
0:18:57.900,0:19:02.640
favorite I actually don't even own a six
0:19:00.120,0:19:04.260
Creed we've got several uh six Creeds
0:19:02.640,0:19:06.900
there at Foxboro we go on trips there's
0:19:04.260,0:19:09.299
been a couple of them I've shot and
0:19:06.900,0:19:11.160
watched other guys mow down coyotes and
0:19:09.299,0:19:13.140
stuff with them dude out the six Creeds
0:19:11.160,0:19:14.580
that's an awesome round too yeah it's an
0:19:13.140,0:19:16.260
awesome little round that's an awesome
0:19:14.580,0:19:17.940
little round you know you was talking
0:19:16.260,0:19:19.260
you mentioned the six five Creedmoor
0:19:17.940,0:19:20.640
there earlier
0:19:19.260,0:19:23.400
um you know it's one of those calibers
0:19:20.640,0:19:25.320
that some for some reason I really
0:19:23.400,0:19:28.200
understood it but a lot of people love
0:19:25.320,0:19:30.840
to hate on that and it means yeah zero
0:19:28.200,0:19:32.640
sense to me Anthony I mean uh it's a
0:19:30.840,0:19:34.320
it's a caliber it doesn't it doesn't
0:19:32.640,0:19:37.080
kick you don't have no kick anybody can
0:19:34.320,0:19:40.140
shoot it yeah any guys can shoot it and
0:19:37.080,0:19:43.020
it'll it crosses over well from the big
0:19:40.140,0:19:45.120
game world to the to the hog world and
0:19:43.020,0:19:47.220
and to the coyote World it takes care of
0:19:45.120,0:19:49.559
all all those you know chicks off all
0:19:47.220,0:19:51.840
those boxes and I don't understand the
0:19:49.559,0:19:55.440
hate it's it's an excellent excellent
0:19:51.840,0:19:57.660
caliber I I think it is and and I and I
0:19:55.440,0:19:59.940
understand where a lot of the hate I
0:19:57.660,0:20:02.580
think a lot of the hate is coming from
0:19:59.940,0:20:05.160
some some distance big game Hunters
0:20:02.580,0:20:07.340
that's the only thing I can think of
0:20:05.160,0:20:10.919
um and and
0:20:07.340,0:20:12.660
I think it's just turned into like I
0:20:10.919,0:20:15.000
don't even know how to explain it just a
0:20:12.660,0:20:17.520
thing to talk about on social media you
0:20:15.000,0:20:19.500
know right it's it's like me with Chevy
0:20:17.520,0:20:23.000
trucks like I just want to pick on Kevin
0:20:19.500,0:20:23.000
hey you know what I'm saying
0:20:23.299,0:20:27.720
but I saw you down in Texas a couple
0:20:25.860,0:20:29.280
months ago I don't I told you I said you
0:20:27.720,0:20:31.820
just you just hush your mouth I've got
0:20:29.280,0:20:31.820
two ships
0:20:33.940,0:20:40.520
[Laughter]
0:20:40.700,0:20:45.000
but to do this the truth about the six
0:20:43.200,0:20:47.640
five stuff I think there's two sides of
0:20:45.000,0:20:49.679
it it's all about bandwagon stuff people
0:20:47.640,0:20:51.840
jumped on the back under the bandwagon
0:20:49.679,0:20:54.299
with the 6.5 and I think it got on some
0:20:51.840,0:20:56.820
people's nerves so when in return they
0:20:54.299,0:21:01.440
jumped on the bandwagon of hating it yep
0:20:56.820,0:21:03.480
yep yep I 100 agree 100 agree but hey
0:21:01.440,0:21:06.120
any of you guys out there ain't never
0:21:03.480,0:21:07.020
tried a 6.5 Creedmoor and you're on the
0:21:06.120,0:21:09.660
fence
0:21:07.020,0:21:11.640
man that is a as a great caliber I mean
0:21:09.660,0:21:13.980
it's a great caliber for your kids to
0:21:11.640,0:21:16.500
shoot for say you season deer stuff and
0:21:13.980,0:21:18.480
it's cool for an adult to use it too and
0:21:16.500,0:21:21.960
hang on hey there ain't never been a
0:21:18.480,0:21:25.100
deer coyote or a hog it's ever walked a
0:21:21.960,0:21:27.539
6.5 Creedmoor won't drop in his tracks
0:21:25.100,0:21:29.820
it's all about that shooter too you know
0:21:27.539,0:21:32.280
you make it count it's going to happen
0:21:29.820,0:21:34.620
yeah and another thing that I like about
0:21:32.280,0:21:37.320
that that Creedmoor is availability I
0:21:34.620,0:21:39.360
can go to Walmart I can go to academy I
0:21:37.320,0:21:41.520
can go online I'm finding the ammo
0:21:39.360,0:21:43.500
everywhere yeah yeah all right that's a
0:21:41.520,0:21:46.440
that's a big that's a big factor out
0:21:43.500,0:21:48.179
there yep have you ever shot speaking of
0:21:46.440,0:21:50.299
six fives you ever shot done anything
0:21:48.179,0:21:54.600
with a 6'5 PRC
0:21:50.299,0:21:59.220
no so my boss and good friend he he has
0:21:54.600,0:22:03.179
a uh a rifle built in 65 PRC and I'm not
0:21:59.220,0:22:08.179
gonna lie it's it's another level it's
0:22:03.179,0:22:08.179
the Magnum version of that cruise yeah
0:22:08.460,0:22:15.360
seen several coyotes get leveled by it
0:22:11.760,0:22:18.059
and I'll be 100 honest with you for the
0:22:15.360,0:22:20.580
cost you know to shoot it I'm like it's
0:22:18.059,0:22:22.220
I think it's over like it's a lot of
0:22:20.580,0:22:26.039
guns
0:22:22.220,0:22:29.840
no doubt no doubt it's brutal yeah we've
0:22:26.039,0:22:33.059
uh me and my brother both have uh 6.5
0:22:29.840,0:22:35.580
prcs built and you know we've shot
0:22:33.059,0:22:38.340
several coyotes with them and
0:22:35.580,0:22:41.760
um a few deer my kids are both killed
0:22:38.340,0:22:45.659
deer with my 6.5 PRC they look they love
0:22:41.760,0:22:48.840
to shoot it uh nice Antelope mule deer
0:22:45.659,0:22:51.059
man it's it it man it's it's the
0:22:48.840,0:22:53.280
business it it's it's nice we like it
0:22:51.059,0:22:55.500
that's awesome that's awesome well let's
0:22:53.280,0:22:57.360
uh let's talk about coyotes what got you
0:22:55.500,0:22:58.740
yeah what Anthony what got you in the
0:22:57.360,0:23:01.260
coyote hunting when did you start how
0:22:58.740,0:23:02.760
long you been doing it so
0:23:01.260,0:23:04.500
um this is funny I was just on a live
0:23:02.760,0:23:06.120
feed the other day talking about my
0:23:04.500,0:23:09.780
first experience with a buddy of mine
0:23:06.120,0:23:10.980
his name is Jeffrey uh I told him I said
0:23:09.780,0:23:12.360
hey there's Coyote's out here at this
0:23:10.980,0:23:13.919
Ranch you know I just I just want to
0:23:12.360,0:23:16.080
learn you know can you can you show me
0:23:13.919,0:23:18.299
the road because back then
0:23:16.080,0:23:20.340
uh there were several companies on TV
0:23:18.299,0:23:22.020
that had TV shows and there was a few
0:23:20.340,0:23:24.960
names you know some guys that were doing
0:23:22.020,0:23:27.299
stuff on TV so I wanted to try it you
0:23:24.960,0:23:30.840
know and he comes out with his hand call
0:23:27.299,0:23:33.600
and starts blowing and sure enough and
0:23:30.840,0:23:35.820
this is the same 11 Acre Corner John
0:23:33.600,0:23:37.500
that I was talking about yeah the same
0:23:35.820,0:23:39.840
corner but the terrain has changed a
0:23:37.500,0:23:43.559
little bit but uh he calls in this
0:23:39.840,0:23:45.000
coyote like 200 something yards I mean I
0:23:43.559,0:23:47.940
was kind of nervous because I thought it
0:23:45.000,0:23:52.740
was somebody's dog it was a huge fluffy
0:23:47.940,0:23:54.419
coyote and uh he levels it at like 150
0:23:52.740,0:23:56.400
yards or something like that and we go
0:23:54.419,0:24:00.539
out there and sure enough it was a 40
0:23:56.400,0:24:02.039
pound dog and I'm just I was just like I
0:24:00.539,0:24:04.799
can't believe this just happened like
0:24:02.039,0:24:07.380
just blowing this call we were able to
0:24:04.799,0:24:10.380
lure this predator in you know in broad
0:24:07.380,0:24:13.980
daylight yep and and he will tell you
0:24:10.380,0:24:16.820
anything has never stopped since I have
0:24:13.980,0:24:20.159
never stopped since
0:24:16.820,0:24:23.039
it lit a fire it did and
0:24:20.159,0:24:25.679
um you know back then my finances wasn't
0:24:23.039,0:24:27.480
there for fancy guns and e-collars and
0:24:25.679,0:24:29.700
all that so I just had to buy the cheap
0:24:27.480,0:24:32.400
little hand calls I could get you know
0:24:29.700,0:24:34.980
and try and I I'm gonna tell you right
0:24:32.400,0:24:38.360
now I had way more
0:24:34.980,0:24:40.860
losses than I had who wins you know so
0:24:38.360,0:24:45.179
it was hard you know everybody makes
0:24:40.860,0:24:47.520
their eye stands yeah yeah and I I you
0:24:45.179,0:24:50.460
know it took me I'll just be 100 honest
0:24:47.520,0:24:52.860
with you it took me years to to figure
0:24:50.460,0:24:54.900
out different techniques and and one of
0:24:52.860,0:24:56.400
the worst one of the worst things that I
0:24:54.900,0:24:58.620
was doing and I didn't know that I was
0:24:56.400,0:25:01.380
doing was I was never playing the wind
0:24:58.620,0:25:03.059
yep I was never playing in the wind and
0:25:01.380,0:25:04.679
when I started playing that win I'm
0:25:03.059,0:25:07.200
gonna tell you right now that the game
0:25:04.679,0:25:10.559
changed it was over then oh man every
0:25:07.200,0:25:13.559
every single move that a coyote makes is
0:25:10.559,0:25:14.940
dictated by its nose and if you're not
0:25:13.559,0:25:17.100
hunting the wind and you don't have the
0:25:14.940,0:25:20.460
win in your favor your haunts are over
0:25:17.100,0:25:23.220
before they ever got started it's just
0:25:20.460,0:25:24.779
yes sir yes sir you're right but you
0:25:23.220,0:25:26.820
know there is and then you know there
0:25:24.779,0:25:28.679
it's a learning curve from coyote for
0:25:26.820,0:25:30.659
coyote it don't matter what you've came
0:25:28.679,0:25:32.520
from in the past hunting when you come
0:25:30.659,0:25:35.820
to Coyote it's it's a learning curve
0:25:32.520,0:25:37.020
it's not it's everybody thanks and it's
0:25:35.820,0:25:39.720
uh what's actually the reason we do is
0:25:37.020,0:25:41.340
podcast it's reason we uh do Foxpro
0:25:39.720,0:25:42.960
hunting TV you know we're wanting to
0:25:41.340,0:25:45.539
educate everybody and we don't want to
0:25:42.960,0:25:47.640
see people struggle but like I said
0:25:45.539,0:25:49.679
earlier though you can you can be the
0:25:47.640,0:25:53.220
best in the world have the best
0:25:49.679,0:25:55.140
equipment hunt the best spots
0:25:53.220,0:25:56.580
um hunt at the best time the whole nine
0:25:55.140,0:25:59.640
yards guess what you still gonna have
0:25:56.580,0:26:00.659
dry stands yes sir yes sir and you're
0:25:59.640,0:26:03.480
still going to learn you're still going
0:26:00.659,0:26:05.520
to be learning too oh man for sure for
0:26:03.480,0:26:08.279
sure I'm still learning I will never sit
0:26:05.520,0:26:09.900
there and clean and to be uh tell
0:26:08.279,0:26:11.700
everybody I'm a professional there's no
0:26:09.900,0:26:13.200
way because every day we're still
0:26:11.700,0:26:16.320
learning we're still learning exactly
0:26:13.200,0:26:18.299
exactly are you talking about uh talking
0:26:16.320,0:26:20.640
about running the hand calls and stuff
0:26:18.299,0:26:23.720
like that and that uh the other there in
0:26:20.640,0:26:23.720
the past what are you running now
0:26:25.460,0:26:31.740
I do carry a mouth call
0:26:28.620,0:26:35.279
um it's an old crack call like a a
0:26:31.740,0:26:39.480
cottontail call yeah yep um and uh my
0:26:35.279,0:26:42.360
x24 my x24 goes everywhere I go but I
0:26:39.480,0:26:44.760
have my hand called just in case I gotta
0:26:42.360,0:26:47.039
make something happen really quick
0:26:44.760,0:26:50.039
um but it's usually just one Cottontail
0:26:47.039,0:26:52.919
hand call and my x-24 that's what goes
0:26:50.039,0:26:55.919
with me everywhere at x24 money
0:26:52.919,0:26:58.440
man that thing I was a little nervous at
0:26:55.919,0:27:00.600
first because you know I I run around
0:26:58.440,0:27:02.460
with Chris Robinson and I I chat with
0:27:00.600,0:27:04.620
you know James O'Neal and the O'Neill
0:27:02.460,0:27:07.140
Ops Team you know they got the big old
0:27:04.620,0:27:08.460
Fancy e-collar from Fox Road and I was
0:27:07.140,0:27:10.200
getting the x24 and I'm like I'm getting
0:27:08.460,0:27:12.900
the I'm getting the runt of the list
0:27:10.200,0:27:15.000
yeah legendary yeah I talked to O'Neill
0:27:12.900,0:27:17.100
boys I talked to Chris Robinson they all
0:27:15.000,0:27:19.320
run these big X waves well this this
0:27:17.100,0:27:21.679
stupid Collins guy in Kentucky says I
0:27:19.320,0:27:24.480
need to run this little x-24.
0:27:21.679,0:27:25.919
exactly exactly so you thought you
0:27:24.480,0:27:28.380
thought I was doing you dirty didn't you
0:27:25.919,0:27:29.580
yeah I thought so too and so I was like
0:27:28.380,0:27:34.140
you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna try
0:27:29.580,0:27:36.900
the x24 and now they won x24 Hey listen
0:27:34.140,0:27:39.299
it when we came to uh me and Tori cook
0:27:36.900,0:27:41.220
went down there and hunted with Chris uh
0:27:39.299,0:27:42.960
Tori was running a little late I'd got
0:27:41.220,0:27:44.880
there around lunch time or whatever and
0:27:42.960,0:27:46.620
Chris said hey we might be able to call
0:27:44.880,0:27:49.140
up some midday coyotes you want to go
0:27:46.620,0:27:50.640
and I said I said sure let's do it he
0:27:49.140,0:27:52.320
said you bring your call with you I said
0:27:50.640,0:27:54.679
I figured you had a call here and I
0:27:52.320,0:27:58.020
figure toys bring
0:27:54.679,0:27:59.760
let's go out anyway we made just just
0:27:58.020,0:28:02.460
two stands I think and they were dry
0:27:59.760,0:28:03.600
stands I'm talking about at 12 30 and 1
0:28:02.460,0:28:06.720
o'clock right in the middle of the day
0:28:03.600,0:28:09.299
okay son High you know yeah
0:28:06.720,0:28:11.880
did do no good but when we got back to
0:28:09.299,0:28:13.380
the house Tori showed up well we decided
0:28:11.880,0:28:15.480
to go back out and I said towards you
0:28:13.380,0:28:18.299
bring your x-24 and he said yep I said
0:28:15.480,0:28:21.720
let's bring it bring it with you dude we
0:28:18.299,0:28:23.700
way laid the coyotes and uh put this way
0:28:21.720,0:28:26.659
at the end of the trip Chris was asking
0:28:23.700,0:28:26.659
if he could get his hands
0:28:27.419,0:28:30.419
I don't know what it is that call is
0:28:29.340,0:28:32.279
magical
0:28:30.419,0:28:35.120
I don't remember he wouldn't stop
0:28:32.279,0:28:39.600
talking about it it is perfect because
0:28:35.120,0:28:42.179
it's compact it's plenty loud I mean I
0:28:39.600,0:28:43.740
still I still haven't gone above 20 on
0:28:42.179,0:28:47.299
the volume and I know it goes higher
0:28:43.740,0:28:52.020
than that 40. you just at half volume
0:28:47.299,0:28:54.840
he goes up to 40. yes oh man I had no
0:28:52.020,0:28:57.000
idea I didn't see folks uh
0:28:54.840,0:28:59.220
okay so I got to talk about this real
0:28:57.000,0:29:00.840
quick you remember when I talked to you
0:28:59.220,0:29:02.000
before I said don't be scared to Crank
0:29:00.840,0:29:04.799
That Thing Up
0:29:02.000,0:29:08.039
coyotes up from another County exactly
0:29:04.799,0:29:10.620
guy I'm on this I'm on this x24 and I'm
0:29:08.039,0:29:13.140
at volume 12 or 13 or something like
0:29:10.620,0:29:15.659
that and I'm barely seeing any animals
0:29:13.140,0:29:17.460
responding I talked to John and I'm like
0:29:15.659,0:29:20.039
John what's your volume setting at he
0:29:17.460,0:29:21.659
says man Crank That Thing Up it's like
0:29:20.039,0:29:23.399
when the Cottontail or animals in
0:29:21.659,0:29:25.500
distress he think it's you think it's
0:29:23.399,0:29:28.980
just muted it's screaming as hard as you
0:29:25.500,0:29:32.580
can I'm like all right so I cranked this
0:29:28.980,0:29:34.799
thing up to 20 and I mean at 20. that's
0:29:32.580,0:29:36.980
halfway I'm starting this all these
0:29:34.799,0:29:39.840
calls started coming in and I was like
0:29:36.980,0:29:42.840
unbelievable yeah I'm not telling you
0:29:39.840,0:29:45.059
put the rabbit on 40. but hey run that
0:29:42.840,0:29:48.539
thing on up in the 20s stretch that
0:29:45.059,0:29:50.340
thing up to 26 28 let her hit 30 or 32
0:29:48.539,0:29:53.520
every once while and dial her back down
0:29:50.340,0:29:57.179
the way I look at it is it uh rabbit
0:29:53.520,0:29:59.159
screaming on volume 28 or 30 on x24 I've
0:29:57.179,0:30:01.500
never seen it spook an animal I've never
0:29:59.159,0:30:04.440
seen a spook a coyote and the thing is
0:30:01.500,0:30:06.179
is this is you know if a coyote can't
0:30:04.440,0:30:08.820
hear you you can't hear the call he
0:30:06.179,0:30:11.279
can't come in he can't come right he
0:30:08.820,0:30:13.200
can't he can't come and I was always
0:30:11.279,0:30:15.419
worried I was that guy that and nobody
0:30:13.200,0:30:17.039
ever told me this it was something that
0:30:15.419,0:30:19.799
I was just kept telling I kept telling
0:30:17.039,0:30:21.179
myself yeah anything take it easy it's
0:30:19.799,0:30:22.919
it's you know I'm around a bunch of
0:30:21.179,0:30:25.080
woods and sometimes the passage are
0:30:22.919,0:30:26.880
really tight so I think when I crank it
0:30:25.080,0:30:30.000
up too loud that I'm spooking the game
0:30:26.880,0:30:32.220
right and I was telling myself that for
0:30:30.000,0:30:34.440
years there's nothing wrong with running
0:30:32.220,0:30:36.299
those lower volumes in those mid-range
0:30:34.440,0:30:38.039
volumes but if you've been on stand for
0:30:36.299,0:30:41.100
a few minutes and allowed you know the
0:30:38.039,0:30:43.559
loudest you've got is 20 on that x24 or
0:30:41.100,0:30:44.640
you know those expect series calls and
0:30:43.559,0:30:46.140
you've been there for a few minutes
0:30:44.640,0:30:48.539
nothing showing up
0:30:46.140,0:30:50.039
dude crank it thing on up I mean there
0:30:48.539,0:30:52.260
could be coyotes on out there in front
0:30:50.039,0:30:54.240
of you somewhere or off to the side it's
0:30:52.260,0:30:55.679
just you know they're past that point of
0:30:54.240,0:30:59.039
being able to hear your call at volume
0:30:55.679,0:31:01.380
20. yep you see what I'm saying so it
0:30:59.039,0:31:04.440
worked don't break it break her on up
0:31:01.380,0:31:07.200
there it worked it was a it was a game
0:31:04.440,0:31:10.320
changer that that night we it was my
0:31:07.200,0:31:12.360
personal record night and it was all
0:31:10.320,0:31:14.880
about the volume I never changed my
0:31:12.360,0:31:17.640
calls it was the same sequence that I
0:31:14.880,0:31:20.279
used the same secret calls that I used I
0:31:17.640,0:31:22.620
just went up the volume yeah yeah I went
0:31:20.279,0:31:24.720
up in volume that's that's pretty good
0:31:22.620,0:31:26.880
stuff it just it shows you what you call
0:31:24.720,0:31:28.440
you know and like I said don't be afraid
0:31:26.880,0:31:30.419
to go even louder than that especially
0:31:28.440,0:31:33.059
like it when you're running a house you
0:31:30.419,0:31:35.340
know but I'm I like running my house
0:31:33.059,0:31:37.200
loud I'll run those things and it don't
0:31:35.340,0:31:39.179
matter if it's Fox Pro house or mfk
0:31:37.200,0:31:42.419
house I'm running all those at like
0:31:39.179,0:31:44.100
between 28 and 34. that's great to hear
0:31:42.419,0:31:45.899
that's great to hear I'm definitely
0:31:44.100,0:31:47.760
going to get on to that uh here this
0:31:45.899,0:31:49.919
spring because you were telling me that
0:31:47.760,0:31:52.500
summer dogs is where it's at and I'm
0:31:49.919,0:31:54.360
like oh man I'm over here itching for it
0:31:52.500,0:31:55.799
and I tell you what too when it comes
0:31:54.360,0:31:58.080
those summer coyotes when they're when
0:31:55.799,0:32:00.539
they're really territorial uh they they
0:31:58.080,0:32:02.640
how good in the summer months or a lot
0:32:00.539,0:32:05.039
they're really vocal uh in the summer
0:32:02.640,0:32:06.659
months and it seems like if they'll
0:32:05.039,0:32:08.399
they're really good about answering you
0:32:06.659,0:32:11.220
back it seemed like you'll get more
0:32:08.399,0:32:13.679
vocal responses when you're rather loud
0:32:11.220,0:32:16.980
on your call like like if you're howling
0:32:13.679,0:32:18.779
at 26 I think you're it's you got a
0:32:16.980,0:32:20.960
better chance getting a coyote to answer
0:32:18.779,0:32:25.740
you and how back if you was running on
0:32:20.960,0:32:28.140
34 versus 26 or 35.
0:32:25.740,0:32:30.539
that is so good to hear I can't wait
0:32:28.140,0:32:32.220
right right I mean wait I'm definitely
0:32:30.539,0:32:33.899
gonna be cranking it up and same thing
0:32:32.220,0:32:35.880
for the pup distresses and stuff too
0:32:33.899,0:32:38.159
I'll run a pup distresses at low volume
0:32:35.880,0:32:41.460
as well but you know I'll crank them
0:32:38.159,0:32:44.220
things up 30 32 34. you know I'm you
0:32:41.460,0:32:46.559
know it's just like say uh
0:32:44.220,0:32:48.419
say you like coyote fights if you ever
0:32:46.559,0:32:50.159
heard like you know get around a couple
0:32:48.419,0:32:54.179
guys fighting or whatever you ever heard
0:32:50.159,0:32:57.360
of a quiet fight no no no it's it's loud
0:32:54.179,0:32:58.679
dude there's there's screaming and you
0:32:57.360,0:33:00.720
know what doing whatever and people
0:32:58.679,0:33:02.399
around them are hollering the same thing
0:33:00.720,0:33:04.860
with coyotes you know when they get in a
0:33:02.399,0:33:08.220
fight and get to going on it ain't quiet
0:33:04.860,0:33:10.200
it's a loud Affair it's loud it's
0:33:08.220,0:33:12.360
definitely loud yeah so crazy I've been
0:33:10.200,0:33:14.580
around it I've been close to some coyote
0:33:12.360,0:33:16.679
fights and I've seen it yep and it's
0:33:14.580,0:33:18.120
it's pretty it's bone killing I mean you
0:33:16.679,0:33:21.240
can't believe that it's happening at
0:33:18.120,0:33:22.620
close but it is loud it is loud we're
0:33:21.240,0:33:25.860
talking about the coyote hunting her a
0:33:22.620,0:33:28.559
little bit and I know uh for you night
0:33:25.860,0:33:31.140
hunting is you know night time is is the
0:33:28.559,0:33:32.539
right time so for me yeah I know you
0:33:31.140,0:33:35.340
like tonight huh
0:33:32.539,0:33:36.539
no next time I come down to Texas we're
0:33:35.340,0:33:38.159
going to do some day stands you know
0:33:36.539,0:33:39.240
when I showed up at Chris's I told him I
0:33:38.159,0:33:41.760
said you know I know you got to a show
0:33:39.240,0:33:45.620
called a night crew we're gonna change
0:33:41.760,0:33:45.620
the name of it after he's three days
0:33:49.279,0:33:55.580
it's not going out tonight and John's
0:33:52.380,0:33:55.580
like man I'm going to bed
0:33:55.860,0:34:00.480
what and I'm like I'm like no man you
0:33:58.799,0:34:02.460
gotta try this thermal stuff man you
0:34:00.480,0:34:04.640
gotta try it you're like I'm a daytime
0:34:02.460,0:34:07.320
Hunter man I gotta have my sleep
0:34:04.640,0:34:09.540
we killed nine this afternoon what we
0:34:07.320,0:34:11.700
gonna do tonight yeah I know you guys
0:34:09.540,0:34:13.800
I'm not gonna lie you guys destroyed
0:34:11.700,0:34:16.020
them that was awesome that was a that
0:34:13.800,0:34:17.460
was some good footage yeah and we hit we
0:34:16.020,0:34:19.560
hit him just right you know it don't
0:34:17.460,0:34:22.200
work that way every time I gotta I gotta
0:34:19.560,0:34:25.859
say everything everything worked out
0:34:22.200,0:34:27.839
great you know we hit I don't know moon
0:34:25.859,0:34:31.099
phase barometric pressure whatever you
0:34:27.839,0:34:34.500
want to say everything fell in the sink
0:34:31.099,0:34:37.440
yeah and it was wild because it was the
0:34:34.500,0:34:39.839
weather was horrible it was we had we
0:34:37.440,0:34:41.339
had a snow ice storm coming from nowhere
0:34:39.839,0:34:43.560
and I'm like oh they're they're not
0:34:41.339,0:34:45.359
gonna see anything you you guys
0:34:43.560,0:34:47.399
destroyed them yeah and we didn't go
0:34:45.359,0:34:52.020
hunting that we we hunted before it and
0:34:47.399,0:34:53.520
after it and after it wow wow but it was
0:34:52.020,0:34:55.080
it's a fun hunt I'd definitely be back
0:34:53.520,0:34:57.540
down in that country again and you never
0:34:55.080,0:34:59.940
know you got let me get a nap or two in
0:34:57.540,0:35:02.460
during the day I might go out for a
0:34:59.940,0:35:05.720
couple hours in the evening I ain't
0:35:02.460,0:35:10.460
staying out all night yeah yeah yeah
0:35:05.720,0:35:10.460
hey that song goes down I get sleepy
0:35:10.760,0:35:15.599
he was pretty serious about it too so I
0:35:13.619,0:35:17.400
was like I know I know he's not lying
0:35:15.599,0:35:19.800
about that because all your contents
0:35:17.400,0:35:22.440
during the day and that's that's what
0:35:19.800,0:35:25.380
caught my attention on social media was
0:35:22.440,0:35:26.940
I remember probably three or four years
0:35:25.380,0:35:29.280
ago
0:35:26.940,0:35:32.160
um I saw you on on Instagram and I was
0:35:29.280,0:35:34.280
like who is this guy like it's probably
0:35:32.160,0:35:36.660
longer than that yeah
0:35:34.280,0:35:38.579
back and forth for
0:35:36.660,0:35:41.040
shoot dude five or six years probably
0:35:38.579,0:35:43.500
yeah it has yeah it hadn't been longer
0:35:41.040,0:35:46.339
than that and I'm just watching I'm like
0:35:43.500,0:35:49.260
there's no way he's doing this and he's
0:35:46.339,0:35:51.300
folks understand how much work it is to
0:35:49.260,0:35:54.660
be able to run a camera and be the
0:35:51.300,0:35:56.119
shooter like there's so much I got so
0:35:54.660,0:35:58.800
much respect for that man it's
0:35:56.119,0:36:01.440
unbelievable but you're doing it on a
0:35:58.800,0:36:02.940
different level and like it's just
0:36:01.440,0:36:04.140
awesome to watch and I was like I can't
0:36:02.940,0:36:06.060
believe he's doing this during the
0:36:04.140,0:36:08.040
daytime that's what blows my mind I
0:36:06.060,0:36:09.480
appreciate the kind words but man I
0:36:08.040,0:36:11.400
Gotta Give It Up to the coyotes too
0:36:09.480,0:36:13.500
because it takes it takes the right
0:36:11.400,0:36:15.900
coyote stand and the right coyotes to
0:36:13.500,0:36:17.280
make it work there's definitely a lot of
0:36:15.900,0:36:19.740
them get away from you trying to do that
0:36:17.280,0:36:20.940
type of stuff you know definitely when
0:36:19.740,0:36:23.040
you're doing that type of stuff trying
0:36:20.940,0:36:24.900
to sell film there's a lot of stands
0:36:23.040,0:36:27.480
that I would make if I was just calling
0:36:24.900,0:36:29.760
and killing or if I had a cameraman uh
0:36:27.480,0:36:31.260
that I won't make if I'm self-film and
0:36:29.760,0:36:33.359
if that makes sense because it's just
0:36:31.260,0:36:35.040
stuff can go wrong and I know I can't
0:36:33.359,0:36:36.900
handle it so I won't haunt those spots
0:36:35.040,0:36:38.760
then of course if the coyotes come out
0:36:36.900,0:36:41.339
they gotta come out in the right spot
0:36:38.760,0:36:43.200
they gotta make the right
0:36:41.339,0:36:44.820
you know they got to travel the right
0:36:43.200,0:36:46.920
way I gotta get them yeah you know it's
0:36:44.820,0:36:48.180
there's a lot to it so I guess you hope
0:36:46.920,0:36:50.099
for the coyotes you know when they read
0:36:48.180,0:36:52.760
the script they they do me pretty good
0:36:50.099,0:36:54.839
they do pretty good
0:36:52.760,0:36:57.660
let's talk about this let's talk about
0:36:54.839,0:37:00.060
your night hunting stuff because they
0:36:57.660,0:37:02.220
you've got like I said you guys go walk
0:37:00.060,0:37:04.380
go to these channels go check them out
0:37:02.220,0:37:06.720
he's on YouTube Instagram the Instagram
0:37:04.380,0:37:09.119
reels dude are fire I mean you've got
0:37:06.720,0:37:12.060
all kinds of awesome content so yeah
0:37:09.119,0:37:14.700
would you say would you say 95 of your
0:37:12.060,0:37:17.339
hunting is that night or or less or more
0:37:14.700,0:37:19.100
what do you think it's probably more
0:37:17.339,0:37:23.839
like 99
0:37:19.100,0:37:26.160
[Laughter]
0:37:23.839,0:37:27.599
you made with you buddy and he hadn't
0:37:26.160,0:37:29.579
called that coyote up you said that was
0:37:27.599,0:37:32.760
during the daytime right that was during
0:37:29.579,0:37:35.220
the daytime yeah and and I tried it for
0:37:32.760,0:37:37.200
a few years during the daytime and I
0:37:35.220,0:37:39.000
just wasn't good at it you know I was
0:37:37.200,0:37:42.240
getting frustrated I was getting busted
0:37:39.000,0:37:44.880
I just wasn't good at it yeah um but the
0:37:42.240,0:37:47.700
night when I got into the night game
0:37:44.880,0:37:49.260
I was I was noticing how much closer I
0:37:47.700,0:37:51.960
was getting to the animals or they were
0:37:49.260,0:37:53.520
getting closer to me and I was it was
0:37:51.960,0:37:56.880
the cover of Darkness that was helping
0:37:53.520,0:37:58.920
me the most you know so right um I was
0:37:56.880,0:38:01.740
just hooked because the kill rate just
0:37:58.920,0:38:04.500
went out of the roof you know yes yes
0:38:01.740,0:38:06.660
um but it is a big part of my life and
0:38:04.500,0:38:08.040
it's nighttime man it's it's like like
0:38:06.660,0:38:09.960
right now the only thing I'm thinking
0:38:08.040,0:38:13.680
about is sunset you know right right
0:38:09.960,0:38:14.940
I'll load up and I'm gone yep you uh I
0:38:13.680,0:38:17.280
know you're a thermal guide do you ever
0:38:14.940,0:38:19.079
still run night vision stuff anymore is
0:38:17.280,0:38:21.480
it all right
0:38:19.079,0:38:25.140
this straight up thermal I I you know I
0:38:21.480,0:38:29.280
got I got PBS 30s 26 I got nods I got
0:38:25.140,0:38:31.740
all kinds of night vision and uh every
0:38:29.280,0:38:34.320
once in a while I'll pull it out just to
0:38:31.740,0:38:36.599
play with it you know but when it comes
0:38:34.320,0:38:38.460
to footage and and actually being
0:38:36.599,0:38:40.320
effective with the equipment I can't
0:38:38.460,0:38:42.660
it's it's really difficult with night
0:38:40.320,0:38:45.300
vision versus thermal right
0:38:42.660,0:38:48.740
um so always always fall back to Thermal
0:38:45.300,0:38:51.480
and uh when I first got into the game
0:38:48.740,0:38:53.280
uh you couldn't touch these things for
0:38:51.480,0:38:55.920
under 10 grand you know it was it was
0:38:53.280,0:38:59.040
ungodly expensive you know yeah
0:38:55.920,0:39:00.839
um and that you couldn't record your
0:38:59.040,0:39:03.480
battery life was sure you know it was it
0:39:00.839,0:39:06.599
was it was rough you know but over the
0:39:03.480,0:39:09.240
years technology has just been evolving
0:39:06.599,0:39:12.240
it's just every year it's worth the new
0:39:09.240,0:39:15.000
thermal is coming out you know and so uh
0:39:12.240,0:39:16.260
I just try to keep up with it and uh and
0:39:15.000,0:39:17.940
try to show people what the equipment
0:39:16.260,0:39:20.040
can do and that's what really got me
0:39:17.940,0:39:22.560
hooked right and it kind of goes along
0:39:20.040,0:39:24.540
with your line of work too right yes sir
0:39:22.560,0:39:26.760
yes sir I'm in the night vision industry
0:39:24.540,0:39:29.400
so it's it's definitely something that
0:39:26.760,0:39:31.260
uh I'm interacting with on a daily basis
0:39:29.400,0:39:33.300
right and which company is it that you
0:39:31.260,0:39:35.880
work for I work for ultimate night
0:39:33.300,0:39:37.619
vision there you go so I work for
0:39:35.880,0:39:38.820
ultimately you better be a nighttime
0:39:37.619,0:39:41.220
owner if you're gonna work for that
0:39:38.820,0:39:43.079
outfit you're right about that you're
0:39:41.220,0:39:44.579
right about that yeah I was talking with
0:39:43.079,0:39:46.859
the boss and he's like oh we got to be
0:39:44.579,0:39:48.180
careful hiring you know more night who
0:39:46.859,0:39:52.940
got too many nights
0:39:48.180,0:39:52.940
[Laughter]
0:39:54.200,0:39:59.339
yeah
0:39:56.599,0:40:02.280
hopefully hopefully you boys let me come
0:39:59.339,0:40:04.560
back down next winter or fall sometime
0:40:02.280,0:40:06.060
and we'll uh we'll mix it up a little
0:40:04.560,0:40:08.700
bit you can maybe you can get me y'all
0:40:06.060,0:40:10.800
some night stuff and uh uh we'll go make
0:40:08.700,0:40:12.900
some day stands as well oh man that'll
0:40:10.800,0:40:16.020
be awesome I'll be awesome I got some
0:40:12.900,0:40:18.599
spots that that will that will keep us
0:40:16.020,0:40:20.400
busy during the day so we we might put
0:40:18.599,0:40:22.200
some miles on the vehicles and and and
0:40:20.400,0:40:24.359
hit some spots it's gonna be awesome
0:40:22.200,0:40:26.400
that works for me we'll make uh we'll
0:40:24.359,0:40:28.859
make Chris take some of his honey holes
0:40:26.400,0:40:31.079
as well oh yeah yeah he's got his honey
0:40:28.859,0:40:32.099
hole he keeps us out of it most of the
0:40:31.079,0:40:33.200
time especially when it comes to
0:40:32.099,0:40:35.880
competition
0:40:33.200,0:40:37.020
when the cops come he's like all right I
0:40:35.880,0:40:38.900
got to save that spot for the
0:40:37.020,0:40:41.880
competition
0:40:38.900,0:40:44.460
all right dude that country is wild too
0:40:41.880,0:40:46.500
down there there was a few stands we
0:40:44.460,0:40:48.359
went and set up on during the day like
0:40:46.500,0:40:49.339
like I'd turn around and there'd be a
0:40:48.359,0:40:52.440
house
0:40:49.339,0:40:53.880
yeah like a soccer mom opened up a
0:40:52.440,0:40:55.680
garage door getting in the van and
0:40:53.880,0:40:57.240
leaving out a garage and I'm like and
0:40:55.680,0:40:58.800
like I could pick up a rock and throw
0:40:57.240,0:41:01.020
and hit his house and I'm like yeah
0:40:58.800,0:41:03.300
we're gonna make a stand here oh yeah
0:41:01.020,0:41:04.920
it's gonna be wanting that Thicket yeah
0:41:03.300,0:41:06.000
three minutes of calling her coming one
0:41:04.920,0:41:08.720
rolling out
0:41:06.000,0:41:12.960
yeah it's it's so crazy
0:41:08.720,0:41:14.520
they killed one of their biggest bobcats
0:41:12.960,0:41:17.220
um we went me and Chris went back out
0:41:14.520,0:41:19.140
there this winter and we we literally
0:41:17.220,0:41:21.060
drove by the house we can see everybody
0:41:19.140,0:41:23.940
at the dinner table sitting down eating
0:41:21.060,0:41:25.320
dinner watching TV I can see I could see
0:41:23.940,0:41:28.980
the meal on there that's how close we
0:41:25.320,0:41:30.720
was to their house was watching yeah and
0:41:28.980,0:41:32.099
and they knew we were coming they knew
0:41:30.720,0:41:33.480
we were going to be out there and then
0:41:32.099,0:41:35.339
and they got a serious cat problem
0:41:33.480,0:41:37.800
because they got this huge Chicken Coop
0:41:35.339,0:41:39.060
behind their house yeah and so
0:41:37.800,0:41:41.160
um you know we're back there calling
0:41:39.060,0:41:43.680
cats and coyotes you know but yeah some
0:41:41.160,0:41:45.180
some of these places is a trip man and
0:41:43.680,0:41:47.160
but they're some of the properties are
0:41:45.180,0:41:49.140
so beautiful but there's definitely
0:41:47.160,0:41:51.180
house some houses are definitely nearby
0:41:49.140,0:41:52.680
you just you know you just got to be
0:41:51.180,0:41:54.780
respectful you know let them know you're
0:41:52.680,0:41:56.339
coming and hey we're not going to be out
0:41:54.780,0:41:59.579
of there and that's what we did on the
0:41:56.339,0:42:01.440
way in you know he uh he texted it and
0:41:59.579,0:42:03.000
called you know and let them know it was
0:42:01.440,0:42:04.740
coming and I you know I just you know
0:42:03.000,0:42:06.480
because I do the same stuff here but you
0:42:04.740,0:42:08.520
know I might be going on a full Hundred
0:42:06.480,0:42:09.839
Acre piece of property and even a house
0:42:08.520,0:42:11.880
on it but just letting them know yeah
0:42:09.839,0:42:13.500
yeah you know so it was it wasn't
0:42:11.880,0:42:15.960
nothing out of the ordinary for me but
0:42:13.500,0:42:19.079
then uh we parked right there at the
0:42:15.960,0:42:20.579
edge of the yard uh you know 75 yards
0:42:19.079,0:42:21.660
away from the house and there we I just
0:42:20.579,0:42:22.680
said you know yeah we're gonna walk go
0:42:21.660,0:42:24.060
back here in this pasture field
0:42:22.680,0:42:25.920
somewhere nah
0:42:24.060,0:42:28.460
put on his little horse lot there at the
0:42:25.920,0:42:28.460
corner of the yard
0:42:28.859,0:42:34.140
up too yeah I know I'm telling you
0:42:32.280,0:42:36.599
because Christmas got some good little
0:42:34.140,0:42:38.700
spots man I I love hunting with Chris
0:42:36.599,0:42:40.920
man he's he's always getting us onto
0:42:38.700,0:42:44.339
something yeah I understand you know
0:42:40.920,0:42:45.960
Dory was calling Tori cook was calling
0:42:44.339,0:42:47.640
and he kind of looked over at me and you
0:42:45.960,0:42:49.820
know I look back I tell what he was
0:42:47.640,0:42:52.200
thinking he's like is he serious
0:42:49.820,0:42:54.660
I think we're gonna make a stand here so
0:42:52.200,0:42:56.520
we set up here and sure enough Tori's
0:42:54.660,0:42:58.859
one spot a coyote you know come I think
0:42:56.520,0:43:00.300
thing came to woodpeckers dressed or
0:42:58.859,0:43:02.579
something anyway look there's coyote
0:43:00.300,0:43:04.319
come right out of that thing wow it's
0:43:02.579,0:43:06.780
awesome it's cool stuff it's cool stuff
0:43:04.319,0:43:10.020
that's awesome that's awesome I hope you
0:43:06.780,0:43:12.060
guys come back next year man we'll I the
0:43:10.020,0:43:14.040
the goal next year is to double up what
0:43:12.060,0:43:17.280
you guys did this year that would be
0:43:14.040,0:43:19.440
epic dude I'll I'll be half definitely
0:43:17.280,0:43:20.880
be happy with that I'd I'll definitely
0:43:19.440,0:43:23.460
be back if you guys have me that's for
0:43:20.880,0:43:25.020
sure yeah it's gonna be it'll be fun and
0:43:23.460,0:43:27.180
then we gotta try to call some pigs too
0:43:25.020,0:43:29.940
with the fox bro I'm telling you it's
0:43:27.180,0:43:32.160
fun man well Chris Chris has done it
0:43:29.940,0:43:34.560
more than anybody I ever know he he can
0:43:32.160,0:43:38.060
call him in man it's crazy well have you
0:43:34.560,0:43:40.859
have you tried calling the Hogs before
0:43:38.060,0:43:43.020
I've tried several times and it just I
0:43:40.859,0:43:46.319
can hear them yep and I tried to call
0:43:43.020,0:43:48.599
them and it just never worked and I it's
0:43:46.319,0:43:50.400
just you know it's one of the right
0:43:48.599,0:43:52.560
place at the right times that type of
0:43:50.400,0:43:55.319
situation you know yeah it's gonna
0:43:52.560,0:43:57.060
happen I I just need to do it more and I
0:43:55.319,0:43:59.220
haven't been doing it much oh yeah maybe
0:43:57.060,0:44:01.220
we can get uh Chris let us in on the
0:43:59.220,0:44:04.560
secret oh
0:44:01.220,0:44:07.380
try to learn from him so I mean that's
0:44:04.560,0:44:09.480
what I do I when I hunt with him man he
0:44:07.380,0:44:12.060
has no idea how much how much rubs off
0:44:09.480,0:44:14.520
on me man but it I've learned so much
0:44:12.060,0:44:16.020
from that guy man and that's that's
0:44:14.520,0:44:17.700
probably one of the main reasons why I
0:44:16.020,0:44:19.740
have so much success calling some of
0:44:17.700,0:44:20.819
these dogs man because you got rough
0:44:19.740,0:44:22.140
shoulders with the folks that know what
0:44:20.819,0:44:23.640
they're doing you know well that's one
0:44:22.140,0:44:25.560
of the cool things too you know you
0:44:23.640,0:44:28.020
could be a terrific coyote Hunter and
0:44:25.560,0:44:31.380
you can go hunt with somebody else and
0:44:28.020,0:44:33.960
uh it seems like everybody that I hunt
0:44:31.380,0:44:35.520
with I learned something from and you
0:44:33.960,0:44:38.640
know I try to I try to take something
0:44:35.520,0:44:41.339
from from everybody from Chris yep uh
0:44:38.640,0:44:43.319
from Toy cook from Big Al Morris you
0:44:41.339,0:44:44.819
know Jeff Ryder and you know just all
0:44:43.319,0:44:47.819
these guys I've hunted with over the
0:44:44.819,0:44:50.280
years a lot of my Colin style uh the way
0:44:47.819,0:44:51.300
I set up on stands well I got all that
0:44:50.280,0:44:52.619
stuff
0:44:51.300,0:44:54.119
um you know there's there's pieces
0:44:52.619,0:44:55.859
everybody that's in that you know I'm
0:44:54.119,0:44:57.780
taking stuff from Al that I'll use on
0:44:55.859,0:44:59.400
stand or getting set up stuff I'll use
0:44:57.780,0:45:00.599
some Chris Rock that's awesome you know
0:44:59.400,0:45:02.400
you're putting putting it all together
0:45:00.599,0:45:05.520
and I think it makes you a better coyote
0:45:02.400,0:45:07.619
Hunter it does no matter how good of a
0:45:05.520,0:45:09.839
coyote Hunter you think you are you got
0:45:07.619,0:45:11.819
to be open-minded and try to be
0:45:09.839,0:45:13.319
open-minded yeah you got to be
0:45:11.819,0:45:16.200
open-minded there's so many people out
0:45:13.319,0:45:18.780
there to just in their ways it's my way
0:45:16.200,0:45:20.579
or the highway yeah and you're never
0:45:18.780,0:45:21.780
going to grow that way you're never
0:45:20.579,0:45:23.520
going to grow
0:45:21.780,0:45:26.280
dude I got a couple questions here I
0:45:23.520,0:45:29.339
want to ask you go for it
0:45:26.280,0:45:31.800
I know you run an x-24 and you love it
0:45:29.339,0:45:33.359
watch your uh watch your three favorite
0:45:31.800,0:45:34.980
sounds what sounds you have the most
0:45:33.359,0:45:37.560
luck out of I want you to tell me your
0:45:34.980,0:45:41.099
top three favorite sounds
0:45:37.560,0:45:44.640
baby Cottontail awesome Sam
0:45:41.099,0:45:46.579
I love bait it's an OG call from Fox Pro
0:45:44.640,0:45:50.700
been around forever
0:45:46.579,0:45:54.720
too I love baby Cottontail I love
0:45:50.700,0:45:57.140
lucious lips yeah yep yep and I I and
0:45:54.720,0:46:02.460
this is new this is a new one
0:45:57.140,0:46:05.280
mfk pound town oh dude yes yes I I can't
0:46:02.460,0:46:08.520
I can't get over it man and and I
0:46:05.280,0:46:10.200
remember I did a poll on IG about what
0:46:08.520,0:46:11.880
call to get you know I was did a little
0:46:10.200,0:46:13.859
poll and everybody's like man Fox bro
0:46:11.880,0:46:15.839
Fox you know if you get the fox Pro get
0:46:13.859,0:46:18.359
the mfk calls and they were telling me
0:46:15.839,0:46:21.000
about all these different mfk sounds yep
0:46:18.359,0:46:24.420
but one of them that kept arising in the
0:46:21.000,0:46:28.619
DMS was pound pound yep and I started
0:46:24.420,0:46:30.480
using it and I use mfk pound town to see
0:46:28.619,0:46:31.920
so like there's some buddies of mine
0:46:30.480,0:46:34.200
that I hunt with dope don't blow it
0:46:31.920,0:46:35.940
right off the bat right me just kind of
0:46:34.200,0:46:37.859
just come with the smoke right off the
0:46:35.940,0:46:41.099
beginning yeah right off the beginning
0:46:37.859,0:46:43.200
they'll use it but me I like to use my
0:46:41.099,0:46:45.359
cottontails I like to use the the birds
0:46:43.200,0:46:47.460
I like to do all of my distress calls
0:46:45.359,0:46:48.599
first if that doesn't work in the first
0:46:47.460,0:46:51.420
eight minutes
0:46:48.599,0:46:53.700
I'm going to fire up that mfk pound town
0:46:51.420,0:46:57.060
and boy if
0:46:53.700,0:46:58.740
it's almost it's guaranteed about a 75
0:46:57.060,0:47:01.020
chance there's gonna be a dog coming in
0:46:58.740,0:47:02.640
yep so it's crazy you've got a you've
0:47:01.020,0:47:05.940
got a great rabbit
0:47:02.640,0:47:08.339
uh Cokes are sound and a fight
0:47:05.940,0:47:10.740
yup that's awesome that's awesome that's
0:47:08.339,0:47:12.839
good stuff and you and you play them uh
0:47:10.740,0:47:14.400
sound like you like me I there has been
0:47:12.839,0:47:16.440
times I'll start right off the bat with
0:47:14.400,0:47:18.540
some sort of aggressive pup distress or
0:47:16.440,0:47:21.060
fight you know whatever the circumstance
0:47:18.540,0:47:23.579
will be but in general I like starting
0:47:21.060,0:47:26.160
light and building up intensity using
0:47:23.579,0:47:27.960
it's hard it's easy to build up and get
0:47:26.160,0:47:29.160
coyotes to come in it's hard to start
0:47:27.960,0:47:32.040
off hot
0:47:29.160,0:47:36.119
and then and then reduce your and then
0:47:32.040,0:47:37.920
reduce exactly exactly start off soft
0:47:36.119,0:47:40.740
with the with the distress calls
0:47:37.920,0:47:43.680
whatever and then if that doesn't work
0:47:40.740,0:47:44.940
fired up fired up with that msk don't it
0:47:43.680,0:47:46.380
doesn't have to be Pound Town it could
0:47:44.940,0:47:49.859
be some other challenge you know or
0:47:46.380,0:47:51.839
whatever but that mfk pound town you
0:47:49.859,0:47:54.960
never know too when there's a
0:47:51.839,0:47:56.760
35 pound bobcatel out there in the
0:47:54.960,0:47:59.700
pasture or in the wood Lots it's ready
0:47:56.760,0:48:02.099
to eat a baby Cottontail too right yep
0:47:59.700,0:48:03.839
yep yep you never know you never know
0:48:02.099,0:48:05.940
there's been plenty of situations this
0:48:03.839,0:48:07.680
this winter uh where I use that
0:48:05.940,0:48:10.319
Cottontail and all the other calls and
0:48:07.680,0:48:13.200
then as soon as I put that an mfk call
0:48:10.319,0:48:14.460
in there just dog just pops up I don't
0:48:13.200,0:48:17.180
know like he was sitting there just
0:48:14.460,0:48:17.180
waiting yeah
0:48:24.680,0:48:29.460
what about that what if I gave you one
0:48:27.540,0:48:33.240
Sam tell me like if I told you you said
0:48:29.460,0:48:36.000
Anthony you know hey we want you to hunt
0:48:33.240,0:48:38.040
this winter this fall whatever and you
0:48:36.000,0:48:39.480
can pick one sound to have on your x24
0:48:38.040,0:48:43.280
we're going to delete everything else
0:48:39.480,0:48:43.280
what what sound you putting on there
0:48:47.839,0:48:53.700
and the only reason why I'm saying this
0:48:50.760,0:48:56.119
is because I am riddled with cottontails
0:48:53.700,0:48:56.119
yep
0:48:56.300,0:49:03.000
flat out works I mean yes coyotes love a
0:49:00.480,0:49:06.839
love a cup baby Cottontail yeah they
0:49:03.000,0:49:10.560
love it and it's Bobcats a hog will eat
0:49:06.839,0:49:12.180
them every baby Cottontail man yep I
0:49:10.560,0:49:14.599
mean you come out here and we'll drive
0:49:12.180,0:49:17.400
down the county road and you will see
0:49:14.599,0:49:19.260
cottontails run over on the road yeah I
0:49:17.400,0:49:20.880
mean they're everywhere they know
0:49:19.260,0:49:23.700
exactly what they taste like and know
0:49:20.880,0:49:26.040
exactly what they sound like exactly and
0:49:23.700,0:49:29.819
it's an easy it's an easy meal for them
0:49:26.040,0:49:31.980
an easy meal baby Cottontail 100 one
0:49:29.819,0:49:33.599
more question what uh what's your
0:49:31.980,0:49:35.160
favorite time of year hunt it sounds
0:49:33.599,0:49:37.440
like you haven't done a summertime stuff
0:49:35.160,0:49:40.920
yet so you're mainly fall winter and
0:49:37.440,0:49:42.960
spring I'm a I'm a mainly a fall winter
0:49:40.920,0:49:45.359
a little bit of spring like right now
0:49:42.960,0:49:47.280
they're starting to lose a fur right now
0:49:45.359,0:49:49.380
they're about to start getting nasty
0:49:47.280,0:49:52.319
yeah our Texas dogs are nasty in the
0:49:49.380,0:49:54.060
summertime right um but when you told me
0:49:52.319,0:49:55.880
you know when we sat down to talk you
0:49:54.060,0:49:59.040
were talking about summer dogs
0:49:55.880,0:50:03.660
you you saw my reaction I'm like what
0:49:59.040,0:50:05.220
yeah like I I I avoid summer dogs you
0:50:03.660,0:50:06.720
know and don't get me wrong about that
0:50:05.220,0:50:08.700
if I got an opportunity I'm going to
0:50:06.720,0:50:10.500
take a shot at them but yep I'm not
0:50:08.700,0:50:11.880
posting up near no tree or anything in
0:50:10.500,0:50:14.040
the summertime and calling dogs getting
0:50:11.880,0:50:16.560
tore up by mosquitoes I just ain't doing
0:50:14.040,0:50:18.500
it that's the thing if you could if you
0:50:16.560,0:50:20.060
can Wade through the mosquitoes
0:50:18.500,0:50:23.220
rattlesnakes
0:50:20.060,0:50:25.800
all that nasty stuff man there's some
0:50:23.220,0:50:27.540
Dynamite calling it really man you it
0:50:25.800,0:50:29.960
blew my mind here
0:50:27.540,0:50:32.760
[Laughter]
0:50:29.960,0:50:34.680
but you're right though because some of
0:50:32.760,0:50:37.380
the best content that you put out with
0:50:34.680,0:50:40.200
Summer dogs oh man that's some crazy
0:50:37.380,0:50:43.140
coyote interactions and they come hard
0:50:40.200,0:50:45.240
you say come hard you said you set up on
0:50:43.140,0:50:47.339
a wood lot or whatever where that's
0:50:45.240,0:50:49.380
holding coyotes and there's a den in
0:50:47.339,0:50:51.900
there there's a Denon family you know a
0:50:49.380,0:50:54.059
male and female's got a den of pups and
0:50:51.900,0:50:56.579
you you walk up in her bedroom or close
0:50:54.059,0:50:58.680
to it and scream at them you know howl
0:50:56.579,0:51:00.359
at them and then start playing some baby
0:50:58.680,0:51:02.640
puppy sounds like you gotta hold one of
0:51:00.359,0:51:05.099
their pups dude they're coming and
0:51:02.640,0:51:07.680
they're coming oh so crazy that is so
0:51:05.099,0:51:10.260
crazy I gotta try it I gotta try it so
0:51:07.680,0:51:13.079
so you winter time guy I'm a winner as
0:51:10.260,0:51:16.079
of today yeah yep I'm a wintertime guy
0:51:13.079,0:51:18.599
and it's a lot of it you know a lot of
0:51:16.079,0:51:20.760
it has to do with um delivering the
0:51:18.599,0:51:22.020
content like so well you know our dogs
0:51:20.760,0:51:23.640
fur up a little bit there's nothing
0:51:22.020,0:51:26.099
there's nothing like the northern dog
0:51:23.640,0:51:27.960
you know but or even your dogs out there
0:51:26.099,0:51:30.140
uh you know towards Kentucky and all
0:51:27.960,0:51:30.140
that but
0:51:30.800,0:51:37.140
uh they look really they look like
0:51:34.680,0:51:39.420
15 20 pound animals man in the
0:51:37.140,0:51:41.180
summertime and it's just like it's like
0:51:39.420,0:51:43.680
there's nothing to show there you know
0:51:41.180,0:51:46.380
so in the winter time when they fur up
0:51:43.680,0:51:48.119
they just look real good and oh let's
0:51:46.380,0:51:49.619
make sure the photos you know a lot
0:51:48.119,0:51:52.140
better looking coyote during that time
0:51:49.619,0:51:53.520
frame and like you said yeah they nasty
0:51:52.140,0:51:54.960
in the summer but I'll be traveling
0:51:53.520,0:51:56.520
quite a bit this summer maybe I'll swing
0:51:54.960,0:51:58.260
by and we'll knock some we'll knock some
0:51:56.520,0:52:00.859
nasty off them coyote Center in Texas
0:51:58.260,0:52:00.859
too so
0:52:01.160,0:52:05.640
Anthony man I appreciate you being on
0:52:03.960,0:52:07.500
here why don't you uh want you to tell
0:52:05.640,0:52:10.380
everybody what your uh Instagram
0:52:07.500,0:52:12.480
username name is and uh where they find
0:52:10.380,0:52:17.119
you on YouTube so they can yeah
0:52:12.480,0:52:19.559
um my my YouTube is a.m that's
0:52:17.119,0:52:22.980
a-m-a-n-t-i-n-e and it is the same thing
0:52:19.559,0:52:25.920
on Instagram a.m and team
0:52:22.980,0:52:28.920
um or put in TX killer and uh it might
0:52:25.920,0:52:30.900
pop up but uh John man I appreciate you
0:52:28.920,0:52:33.660
having me on here man it's an honor to
0:52:30.900,0:52:35.400
be able to chat with you and and just
0:52:33.660,0:52:37.859
gain a lot of knowledge is all I can say
0:52:35.400,0:52:39.780
is it's been an honor man and uh
0:52:37.859,0:52:41.640
hopefully I can share my experiences
0:52:39.780,0:52:43.920
with everybody else and hopefully those
0:52:41.640,0:52:45.300
folks can learn as well man Anthony we
0:52:43.920,0:52:46.800
appreciate you being on here I
0:52:45.300,0:52:49.140
appreciate you I appreciate your
0:52:46.800,0:52:50.700
friendship and we hope everyone enjoyed
0:52:49.140,0:52:54.079
this episode we hope you join us again
0:52:50.700,0:52:54.079
right here on the Foxpro podcast