FOXPRO's Jon Collins and OnX Hunt's Dylan Dowson Discuss the benefits of using the OnXmaps in the field.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls
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hello everyone I'm John Collins welcome
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back to the Foxpro podcast on this
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episode we're going to dive pretty deep
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into the Onyx hunt app and how I can
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help us become better coyote Hunters
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we've got Dylan Dawson on the line from
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Onyx how's it going Dylan
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it's going well I I appreciate the
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opportunity to get on and catch up and
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and chat some uh predator hunting with
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uh with you guys yeah yeah you've been
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able to you've been able to get out and
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do any kind of hunting this spring I
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know you all have had some nasty weather
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up that way but it's starting to it's
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starting to look like it's a little bit
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better weather anyway
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yeah I know it's definitely it's
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Greening up for sure it finally feels
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like springtime uh winter was pretty
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late this year so it's still as far as
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like bear hunting goes it's still pretty
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difficult to get up into some spots that
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I like to get up into but that being
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said I haven't uh haven't been out a ton
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this spring we had our Second Son about
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three weeks ago or so so I've been kind
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of pretty close to home and uh yeah
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yeah
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plenty busy with that but uh no we'll
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get after it here soon
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um you know going turkey on once and
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then uh definitely plan on doing some
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some bear hunting here soon yeah do you
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have any luck during turkey season just
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got out one time you said
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yeah I just got one got out one time
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real quick um I was with uh
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um a buddy of mine who actually shot a a
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turkey with me so that was was fun we
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found some success pretty early and I've
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walked around and picked up some
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elkhorns and that's pretty much been it
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for the springtime well it's it's always
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good when you pick up some of that that
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brown gold that's for sure uh those
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turkeys you all got up at Europe or
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Montana is that correct yep yeah y'all
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got Miriam's up here they Rios what are
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they in your your Park so on on the
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Eastern side of the state it's it's more
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of like your true Miriam
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um more towards central western uh it's
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kind of like a mop bird if you will kind
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of a mix
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um not not the real white tip Birds by
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any means but yeah no it's uh I enjoy
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turkey hunting a little bit you know
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it's it's fun to get out and get after
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it but uh typically I spend most of my
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time uh bear hunting and stuff and
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yeah I've actually found a lot of
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success calling in Bears
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um it's it's pretty exciting when it all
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comes comes full circle and works yeah
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I've you know
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have done quite a bit of bear hunting
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but it's always been in the fall you
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know I've hunted over bait some which is
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okay but I've done a lot of spot and
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stalk hunting up in uh up in the
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Northwest like Oregon and States like
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that and man that's man that's a blast
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but I've always wanted a spring bear
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hunt and those those spots I've hunted
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in the Northwest you got to draw the
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spring tag and I've never had a chance
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to go do it but I've always heard that
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they're very susceptible to calling in
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the spring months and that'd be a
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perfect time for us to put the fox Pro
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to use but I just never have had the
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opportunity to hunt them in the spring
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well come out to Montana we got um
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over-the-counter lots of barriers around
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I believe for non-residents it's
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somewhere around 200 230 dollars for a
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tag oh man um relatively yeah relatively
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reasonable and uh plenty of bears to go
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around so you are welcome to come out
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and shoot some of our Montana bears take
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you up on it sometime like I said I'd
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love to call one up sometimes so it'd be
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yeah that'd be kind of kind of one of
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those dream hunts I mean I've killed a
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lot of bears but like I said I've never
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actually caught I did I take it back I
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did call one up once on this in the like
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on the Snake River right there on Idaho
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Oregon border and but it was fall and I
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had a bear tag that fall but I had
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already filled it we was just calling
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coyotes and sure enough we had a we had
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a pretty nice looking bear come within
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60 yards just straight on to the call
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yeah I think we caught it up with
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Jackrabbit distress I think but
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yeah I uh I typically only call to bears
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I'll take that back I've definitely
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called up some bears that I haven't seen
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But typically when you see them
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um and maybe they just need to step out
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for a shot or you know they head into
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Timber and you're not able to relocate
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like you know throwing a few what I
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typically have used is like a just a
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fawn bleed golf on stress call yep
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um it seems like they just cannot help
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themselves I've even had barriers win me
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like bumped him off a road they've seen
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me they've winded me and I'll blow that
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call a couple times and they will it
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sounds almost made up almost a hundred
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percent of the times run back up on the
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road and look it's almost like something
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switches and they they can't help
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themselves but but come check it out um
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yeah we've called in a couple bears from
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uh one I remember was oh five six
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hundred yards away and just got on it
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real loud and um finally it hurt us and
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and started our way and we lost sight of
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it and we were looking you know 100 200
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yards out in front of us well that bear
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was like 15 yards below us standing up
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on a stump looking for for whatever was
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making that noise and we were you know
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looking over it the whole time so they
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uh it's it's exciting when it happens
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good grief you got me talked into it we
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want to plan on this next spring that
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sounds like a good collaboration huh to
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me
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100 100 yep I you know and that is wild
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you're talking about the coming to the
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deer bleach you know I guess they've
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they've come out of hibernation for the
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winter and I'm sure you know they're
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they're looking to start putting fat
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back on I guarantee you they eat every
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single Fawn and Elk calf they trip over
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so I can understand
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and that's when I first realized that
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when I first I remember the first time I
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used that I didn't really expect it to
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work and I've been with several people
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since that like
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you know I'm overconfident with it at
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this point because I've seen it work
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um numerous times and you know like I
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remember one time I was with somebody
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and we
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my example there we bumped a bear off
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the road in front of us it smelled us
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wind was blowing right at it and I was
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like get ready I'm gonna blow his call
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and he's like there's no way that bear's
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coming back like that bear is probably
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you know quarter mile away still running
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right now and
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um sure enough blew that thing twice and
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it stepped right back up on the road
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like 40 yards in front of us so it's
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it's uh you know when they when you see
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that first hand you really realize like
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okay those bears are doing some damage
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on Cavs and fawns and any any easy meal
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like that like if uh cow elk or
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something there isn't isn't there to
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protect them like you know that's just
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that's an easy meal no no doubt like I
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said I guarantee you they they're gonna
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eat ever ever elk calf or or Fawn uh the
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day trip across that that's for sure
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there's no doubt in my mind but uh we of
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course we ain't got through no spring
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bear hunting this year like I said I've
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never been able to do it in my life a
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lot of fall Bearer hunting but we uh
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actually just finished up our turkey
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season we had a pretty dagger on good
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good turkey season but I'm definitely
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kind of looking forward to getting back
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back after the coyotes for too long but
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but let's let's get to talking about
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Onyx hunt you know us coyote Hunters
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rely on the app pretty heavy Onyx is
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just as important tool for us as any
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piece of equipment we take out in the
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field I mean I'd literally use the app
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every single day and the Foxpro crew you
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know we hunt all over the country we
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have coyote stands mapped out in dozens
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of States maybe in almost every one of
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them if it wasn't for Onyx you know
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there's no way we could keep up with
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them all
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Dylan I think the first thing we've got
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to talk about is how Onyx can help you
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find new property to hunt would you like
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to talk on that a little bit
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yeah for sure and I mean for anybody who
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might not be familiar
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um you know Onyx essentially I'll give a
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super quick 10 000 foot view of it so
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essentially we we started out
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um our founder Eric Siegfried started
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out by he was creating a product for
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himself and then it was kind of a aha
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moment of what he had and how valuable
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it would be to everybody but
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um essentially what he did is he he
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moved to a different part of Montana
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didn't really know where he could go
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couldn't go what was Private what was
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public and so he
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um went to the County Assessors pulled
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all the plot maps every Everything
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available private public private
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landowner names boundaries etc etc and
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he put that on a Micro SD chip and
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formatted that chip to work in His
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Garment so he essentially was just doing
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it for himself
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um to get a leg up and to understand in
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real time where he was physically at in
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relation to the those boundaries because
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as you guys probably know a lot of times
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in in Montana here you know there's
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little quarter sections by half sections
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and tiny little slivers of public land
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that will get you into big swaths of
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public land but there's no fences
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there's no private public signs there's
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there's nothing and it's a hundred
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percent on us to know where we're at
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right
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um and people are watching I mean a lot
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of stuff especially you know as you get
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into some big game hunting and whatever
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there's a lot of leased up private
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property and and they keep a real close
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eye and you know not that you'd want to
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accidentally cross over
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um anyways but you know there's just so
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many areas that you can go explore and
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hunt and call and do all sorts of cool
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stuff on but if you don't know how to
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get there if you don't know where you
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are at in relation to the map you're
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just asking for trouble so essentially
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if he was uh he was smart enough to
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solve that problem for himself started
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on X and then today
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you know 12 13 years later
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um we we really just have it on the
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phone so it essentially turns your phone
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into a handheld GPS device you can see
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your GPS location private public lands
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who owns the private properties
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um the public obviously shows whether
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it's State Forest BLM Etc
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um and then that's just kind of the tip
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of the iceberg from there we have a a
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ton of different GPS functionality that
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that's some really really cool stuff
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that I'm sure we'll get into offline
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maps 3D maps aerial Topo anything you
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might want I feel like we kind of have
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uh have got any out there so yeah I mean
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from a quick glance at it whether you're
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on your phone on the app or on the
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computer on the desktop version
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um you know if you're looking for easy
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to access public lands they're right
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there in your face if you're looking to
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uh go door knocking and get uh
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landowners names like you also have that
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so for finding permission and for places
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to go call like you know it's it's
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pretty helpful
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for sure and it's kind of funny talking
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about you know started using liking
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garments and stuff like that that's
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actually my first experience with it I
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told you earlier that I got a brother
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that lives in Wyoming well of course he
0:11:06.180,0:11:09.779
originally lived right here in Kentucky
0:11:07.320,0:11:11.459
and we didn't know nothing about Wyoming
0:11:09.779,0:11:12.779
when he moved out there for a job you
0:11:11.459,0:11:14.100
know I immediately started going out
0:11:12.779,0:11:16.200
there and visiting because I always
0:11:14.100,0:11:18.420
dreamed to make coyote stands in Wyoming
0:11:16.200,0:11:21.300
but you didn't know where to hunt and we
0:11:18.420,0:11:24.180
found out about RX and bought the like
0:11:21.300,0:11:26.040
the SD card for the state and we would
0:11:24.180,0:11:28.380
plug it into a Garmin that you actually
0:11:26.040,0:11:30.480
used you know for your for your truck or
0:11:28.380,0:11:32.640
car you know just to go from point A to
0:11:30.480,0:11:34.019
point B and would bring the map up and
0:11:32.640,0:11:35.760
would find stuff and then of course we
0:11:34.019,0:11:37.680
would pull the card out and then put it
0:11:35.760,0:11:39.480
in our handheld garment to make sure we
0:11:37.680,0:11:41.279
were you know that's one of the things a
0:11:39.480,0:11:43.860
lot of people don't think about is
0:11:41.279,0:11:46.320
it finds you places to hunt
0:11:43.860,0:11:47.579
but it also keeps you on the places you
0:11:46.320,0:11:49.320
can hunt less like you was talking about
0:11:47.579,0:11:52.200
the boundaries and stuff you might you
0:11:49.320,0:11:53.760
know it keeps you it lets you know the
0:11:52.200,0:11:56.399
area boundaries whether it's state
0:11:53.760,0:11:58.260
ground BLM National Forest Private
0:11:56.399,0:11:59.519
ground or whatever it you know it's all
0:11:58.260,0:12:01.200
you got to do is keep an eye on it it's
0:11:59.519,0:12:03.000
going to keep you inside the boundaries
0:12:01.200,0:12:04.860
of the places that you can hunt and keep
0:12:03.000,0:12:06.480
you from hitting keep you from getting
0:12:04.860,0:12:09.839
in trouble
0:12:06.480,0:12:11.339
yep no absolutely it it really does so
0:12:09.839,0:12:14.100
whether you're getting permission or
0:12:11.339,0:12:15.240
you're out there you know in the field
0:12:14.100,0:12:17.279
um and moving around to different
0:12:15.240,0:12:19.260
locations or anything like that you can
0:12:17.279,0:12:20.459
see where you're at uh you can see where
0:12:19.260,0:12:22.440
you're going make sure you're not going
0:12:20.459,0:12:25.980
to trespass like a lot of times what
0:12:22.440,0:12:28.380
I'll do is if I am you know pretty close
0:12:25.980,0:12:30.480
to a border or say I'm going through a
0:12:28.380,0:12:33.300
real small sliver of public land to get
0:12:30.480,0:12:35.579
into a bigger sloth all just to kind of
0:12:33.300,0:12:39.120
cover my own butt like I'll uh I'll turn
0:12:35.579,0:12:40.920
my tracker on within the app so that way
0:12:39.120,0:12:42.899
if somebody does come up and say Hey you
0:12:40.920,0:12:45.720
trust Pastor hey I saw you on this land
0:12:42.899,0:12:47.519
or whatever it's I have a track exactly
0:12:45.720,0:12:49.200
where I've been and it's right there
0:12:47.519,0:12:50.639
it's perfect like hey I you know I
0:12:49.200,0:12:53.100
understand there's a lot of private
0:12:50.639,0:12:55.380
around that's why I made sure to uh you
0:12:53.100,0:12:58.019
know hit this one strip of of BLM or
0:12:55.380,0:13:00.360
this public land and so on so forth so
0:12:58.019,0:13:03.240
that's uh that's came in handy a couple
0:13:00.360,0:13:05.579
times yeah yes I I've actually used that
0:13:03.240,0:13:07.139
feature as well uh me and my brother in
0:13:05.579,0:13:08.579
Wyoming just like he's was talking about
0:13:07.139,0:13:11.700
earlier it might be just a little
0:13:08.579,0:13:14.459
bottleneck strip of BLM or whatever that
0:13:11.700,0:13:18.060
can get you into that's covered on two
0:13:14.459,0:13:20.519
sides of private but it'll end up
0:13:18.060,0:13:24.000
opening up to you know tens of thousands
0:13:20.519,0:13:25.860
of Acres of BLM and we've used a Tracker
0:13:24.000,0:13:28.320
and I was in we've never we've never
0:13:25.860,0:13:30.720
been stopped and say hey you you crossed
0:13:28.320,0:13:34.079
over onto our private ground or whatever
0:13:30.720,0:13:36.240
but we've had the mindset to know that
0:13:34.079,0:13:39.000
hey let's let's hit the tracking option
0:13:36.240,0:13:40.920
here just so in case that ever rise as
0:13:39.000,0:13:44.399
we say no man right here check this out
0:13:40.920,0:13:45.959
we were we were totally on BLM we did we
0:13:44.399,0:13:48.060
wouldn't cross foot over on your place
0:13:45.959,0:13:52.079
and here's a proof that we didn't so
0:13:48.060,0:13:54.300
it's a great feature especially for
0:13:52.079,0:13:56.579
calling coyotes and stuff too
0:13:54.300,0:13:58.380
um you know heck even big game like I
0:13:56.579,0:14:01.680
one of my best whitetail bucks in
0:13:58.380,0:14:03.959
Montana was shot on I believe it was a
0:14:01.680,0:14:05.760
quarter by a half section yeah so a
0:14:03.959,0:14:07.920
little little sliver of public that
0:14:05.760,0:14:09.300
jutted out into private private all the
0:14:07.920,0:14:11.040
way around it it was just like a
0:14:09.300,0:14:13.019
peninsula
0:14:11.040,0:14:15.540
um and we went up there just to kind of
0:14:13.019,0:14:17.279
glass and see what was happening and
0:14:15.540,0:14:19.500
sure enough that buck started walking
0:14:17.279,0:14:21.360
right across and looking at the map of
0:14:19.500,0:14:22.980
where that you know hey I was looking at
0:14:21.360,0:14:25.440
the map I was looking at the deer and
0:14:22.980,0:14:27.660
the spotting scope recognized a group of
0:14:25.440,0:14:30.779
trees found those trees on the map made
0:14:27.660,0:14:32.940
110 certainty that that deer was well
0:14:30.779,0:14:35.399
within public land and you know wasn't
0:14:32.940,0:14:37.680
you know if I didn't make a perfect shot
0:14:35.399,0:14:39.839
he wasn't gonna run onto a private and
0:14:37.680,0:14:41.459
so and so forth and you know shot one of
0:14:39.839,0:14:44.040
my best whitetail bucks with that and
0:14:41.459,0:14:45.360
especially calling you know you can you
0:14:44.040,0:14:47.399
don't need a lot I think that's one
0:14:45.360,0:14:49.380
mistake a lot of people make when
0:14:47.399,0:14:53.160
looking for public land is where is this
0:14:49.380,0:14:55.260
like giant swath of public for me to go
0:14:53.160,0:14:58.500
and they they key in on that instead of
0:14:55.260,0:15:01.860
the little half sections or one section
0:14:58.500,0:15:03.180
of public land I mean that's a mile by a
0:15:01.860,0:15:05.820
mile I mean there's there's a lot of
0:15:03.180,0:15:07.680
different stuff within that but that one
0:15:05.820,0:15:10.019
piece or that one one half section of
0:15:07.680,0:15:11.820
public might be better than a lot of the
0:15:10.019,0:15:13.680
the giant swaths of public because it's
0:15:11.820,0:15:15.959
surrounded by private that isn't as
0:15:13.680,0:15:18.720
pressured and a lot of times you could
0:15:15.959,0:15:20.459
be calling coyotes in from you know they
0:15:18.720,0:15:22.800
can they can run from that private land
0:15:20.459,0:15:24.920
onto that public pretty easily exactly
0:15:22.800,0:15:27.480
calling somebody else's coyotes to you
0:15:24.920,0:15:30.660
we've actually exactly we've done that
0:15:27.480,0:15:32.880
numerous times you know if we see if we
0:15:30.660,0:15:35.579
see a small section of public that's
0:15:32.880,0:15:37.260
open to hunting and uh it looks like
0:15:35.579,0:15:38.760
good Coyote Country or the neighboring
0:15:37.260,0:15:40.680
place looks like we'll we'll definitely
0:15:38.760,0:15:43.199
we'll definitely make a stand we've
0:15:40.680,0:15:45.600
actually had uh turkey hunting success
0:15:43.199,0:15:47.300
in Wyoming for Miriam's doing the same
0:15:45.600,0:15:50.639
exact thing see
0:15:47.300,0:15:53.279
seabirds on private and find just this
0:15:50.639,0:15:56.040
little section of of public that has
0:15:53.279,0:15:57.240
access and has open hunting with it and
0:15:56.040,0:15:58.920
and getting there and call those birds
0:15:57.240,0:16:00.300
up we've done that numerous times and
0:15:58.920,0:16:02.220
it'd be just a few you know a few
0:16:00.300,0:16:04.980
hundred acres not not a big piece at all
0:16:02.220,0:16:07.860
and have success on it so it that stuff
0:16:04.980,0:16:09.180
is man you guys does it they pass up all
0:16:07.860,0:16:10.860
these small acreage places you might
0:16:09.180,0:16:13.380
want to take a look at them
0:16:10.860,0:16:15.480
oh yeah absolutely I think I think
0:16:13.380,0:16:16.920
they're they're definitely overlooked
0:16:15.480,0:16:19.139
and I understand you know especially if
0:16:16.920,0:16:21.060
you're driving out to a spot or whatever
0:16:19.139,0:16:23.040
you're you're looking for the areas that
0:16:21.060,0:16:25.560
you can move around the most and spend
0:16:23.040,0:16:27.600
the most time in but if you look there's
0:16:25.560,0:16:30.540
a lot a lot of those smaller chunks and
0:16:27.600,0:16:32.279
I think uh especially when there's not
0:16:30.540,0:16:33.720
pressure all the way around it from that
0:16:32.279,0:16:36.300
those private lands whether they're
0:16:33.720,0:16:38.040
leased up and managed properly or a lot
0:16:36.300,0:16:40.740
of landowners just don't allow hunting
0:16:38.040,0:16:42.300
or maybe a select few individuals I mean
0:16:40.740,0:16:44.519
those deer those coyotes those whatever
0:16:42.300,0:16:48.240
you're hunting they definitely don't
0:16:44.519,0:16:50.100
know okay this one section once I cross
0:16:48.240,0:16:51.899
this fence once I go into this [ __ ]
0:16:50.100,0:16:53.880
it's public like they're just not used
0:16:51.899,0:16:55.560
to being pressured so right you know
0:16:53.880,0:16:57.300
you're hunting different animals there
0:16:55.560,0:16:59.220
maybe coyotes that haven't been called
0:16:57.300,0:17:00.540
to a whole bunch
0:16:59.220,0:17:02.339
um because they've been living on
0:17:00.540,0:17:04.980
private and just not really called that
0:17:02.339,0:17:07.799
yep no that's that's that's good stuff
0:17:04.980,0:17:09.660
and you mentioned too about you know if
0:17:07.799,0:17:12.480
you want to do some door knocking find
0:17:09.660,0:17:14.160
them private ground and uh getting the
0:17:12.480,0:17:16.439
landowner information going on see if
0:17:14.160,0:17:18.179
you can't gain access I've always been
0:17:16.439,0:17:20.040
one of these guys I always look for like
0:17:18.179,0:17:22.439
a weigh-in like just try to get my foot
0:17:20.040,0:17:24.179
in the door I usually try to find if I
0:17:22.439,0:17:25.980
find you know if it has landowner
0:17:24.179,0:17:28.620
information listed which you know it
0:17:25.980,0:17:30.900
almost always does I usually start ask
0:17:28.620,0:17:34.500
especially you're at home you know my
0:17:30.900,0:17:36.960
dad is I was raised up in a uh beef uh
0:17:34.500,0:17:39.000
cattle farming family and my dad still
0:17:36.960,0:17:42.240
does it today and has a lot of farmers
0:17:39.000,0:17:44.160
that he knows and and some that he know
0:17:42.240,0:17:46.140
that I'd have no clue that he is even
0:17:44.160,0:17:47.640
associated with so I'll find a piece you
0:17:46.140,0:17:49.380
know I said man I know there's coyotes
0:17:47.640,0:17:50.820
in there I know I could burn them up if
0:17:49.380,0:17:53.039
I could gain permission of this and I'll
0:17:50.820,0:17:56.039
go asking hey you know
0:17:53.039,0:17:58.500
Joe has a lot of Acres you know do you
0:17:56.039,0:18:00.299
know Joe and like if he does as I hate
0:17:58.500,0:18:01.740
maybe you can go with me and we'll knock
0:18:00.299,0:18:03.299
on his door see if he'll let me have
0:18:01.740,0:18:06.059
permission let you just help me since
0:18:03.299,0:18:07.620
you know him you know he's oh yeah he's
0:18:06.059,0:18:08.820
that's it confidence Builder it's hard
0:18:07.620,0:18:11.100
to say you know it might be hard for
0:18:08.820,0:18:14.160
somebody to say no or whatever if you
0:18:11.100,0:18:16.980
take somebody there yeah but yeah yeah
0:18:14.160,0:18:19.200
no it's honestly I did the same my my
0:18:16.980,0:18:22.080
dad uh my parents on a water treatment
0:18:19.200,0:18:23.460
business where I grew up and so he knows
0:18:22.080,0:18:25.320
all the farmers and ranchers just
0:18:23.460,0:18:27.780
because they typically need some water
0:18:25.320,0:18:30.059
equipment and so on and so forth so we
0:18:27.780,0:18:32.100
get we get some pretty cool access
0:18:30.059,0:18:33.780
um just through that right there but you
0:18:32.100,0:18:36.059
know what I found I don't know about you
0:18:33.780,0:18:38.760
and and where you're at but what I have
0:18:36.059,0:18:40.740
found is I have well I think I've only
0:18:38.760,0:18:43.559
been turned down for hunting coyotes
0:18:40.740,0:18:45.679
like two times at right it's and it's
0:18:43.559,0:18:47.820
because somebody else is out hunting or
0:18:45.679,0:18:49.860
one time
0:18:47.820,0:18:51.299
um this individual landowner was you
0:18:49.860,0:18:52.740
know said I kind of like seeing those
0:18:51.299,0:18:55.740
cats surrounding hearing them and stuff
0:18:52.740,0:18:58.500
but I mean that is it is super super
0:18:55.740,0:19:00.179
rare typically if you asked to go call
0:18:58.500,0:19:02.100
coyotes and shoot coyotes they're like
0:19:00.179,0:19:04.140
yes please come every weekend from now
0:19:02.100,0:19:06.780
until calving season for sure yeah yeah
0:19:04.140,0:19:08.520
we very similar here
0:19:06.780,0:19:10.080
um the only thing that kind of turns me
0:19:08.520,0:19:11.640
away anymore just kind of like what you
0:19:10.080,0:19:13.500
said if you find out you know if you
0:19:11.640,0:19:16.140
might ask me oh sure you can hunt all
0:19:13.500,0:19:17.880
you want uh such and so as being coyote
0:19:16.140,0:19:19.980
hunting here some over the last couple
0:19:17.880,0:19:21.539
years usually if I hear that you know
0:19:19.980,0:19:23.940
I'm one of those guys I'm a I'm pretty
0:19:21.539,0:19:25.919
big on respect you know I don't try to
0:19:23.940,0:19:28.020
step on anybody's toes if I hear that I
0:19:25.919,0:19:30.240
just say you know thank them you know
0:19:28.020,0:19:33.000
and say maybe some other time but I'll
0:19:30.240,0:19:35.100
let such and so just keep hunting it uh
0:19:33.000,0:19:36.900
but yeah that's about the only time that
0:19:35.100,0:19:39.059
I miss out on a spot if somebody's
0:19:36.900,0:19:40.919
already got permission and I know they
0:19:39.059,0:19:42.480
actively hunt it but yeah you don't you
0:19:40.919,0:19:44.580
won't find too many people to know about
0:19:42.480,0:19:47.760
coyote hunting that's for sure
0:19:44.580,0:19:49.980
yep no for sure and it's a really good
0:19:47.760,0:19:52.380
way too for if you are also a big game
0:19:49.980,0:19:55.260
hunter one thing I found is I've had
0:19:52.380,0:19:57.059
some you know some turn down I've been
0:19:55.260,0:19:59.039
turned down before to Big Game hunt and
0:19:57.059,0:20:00.600
and then all of a sudden you come out
0:19:59.039,0:20:03.059
and shoot coyotes a few times and you're
0:20:00.600,0:20:05.880
helping out the landowner and you know
0:20:03.059,0:20:08.100
you kind of it's It's a way to build
0:20:05.880,0:20:10.200
that connection with them and stop in
0:20:08.100,0:20:11.880
show them a couple coyotes and tell them
0:20:10.200,0:20:15.000
kind of what you're seeing and just like
0:20:11.880,0:20:16.559
it's a way to to talk to them
0:20:15.000,0:20:17.760
um and then a year or two goes by and
0:20:16.559,0:20:18.900
they're like hey you know actually if
0:20:17.760,0:20:20.460
you want to come out and hunt deer this
0:20:18.900,0:20:23.280
year it'd be a good year for it type
0:20:20.460,0:20:24.780
type situation so yeah you put in the
0:20:23.280,0:20:26.580
door and you help them out with those
0:20:24.780,0:20:28.020
coyotes it can definitely definitely
0:20:26.580,0:20:31.200
lead to more hun
0:20:28.020,0:20:33.360
yep yep no 100 I mean there's there's
0:20:31.200,0:20:35.280
spots here in Montana on landowners
0:20:33.360,0:20:37.380
property that we we get to deer hunt and
0:20:35.280,0:20:38.940
stuff and that's their stipulation too
0:20:37.380,0:20:40.500
is even if it's during Gear season
0:20:38.940,0:20:43.080
they're like if you see a coyote you
0:20:40.500,0:20:46.260
have to shoot it and so right
0:20:43.080,0:20:49.020
yeah I know it's it's it's pretty fun
0:20:46.260,0:20:50.460
well let's uh let's talk about you know
0:20:49.020,0:20:52.679
we've talked about uh you know how you
0:20:50.460,0:20:55.799
can find property you know find all the
0:20:52.679,0:20:57.900
public stuff from BLM State national
0:20:55.799,0:21:00.419
forest whatever of course you got all
0:20:57.900,0:21:02.220
the private land information there uh
0:21:00.419,0:21:04.140
you know most people know know about
0:21:02.220,0:21:06.960
that but let's talk about actually after
0:21:04.140,0:21:09.000
you gain access to properties let's talk
0:21:06.960,0:21:10.500
about waypoints a little bit you know
0:21:09.000,0:21:13.860
actually setting waypoints you know I
0:21:10.500,0:21:16.440
use Onyx for all of my hunting predator
0:21:13.860,0:21:18.120
hunting turkey hunting deer hunting and
0:21:16.440,0:21:21.120
whatever else you know I might get into
0:21:18.120,0:21:24.000
I'm marking tree stand locations entry
0:21:21.120,0:21:26.820
points feeding sites mineral sites for
0:21:24.000,0:21:28.620
deer roof sites for turkey zones for
0:21:26.820,0:21:30.620
turkey you know just list you know
0:21:28.620,0:21:33.539
coyotes all my coyote stands are marked
0:21:30.620,0:21:36.179
locating locations for turkeys and
0:21:33.539,0:21:37.679
coyotes and the list just goes on and on
0:21:36.179,0:21:38.880
and on but uh you want to talk about
0:21:37.679,0:21:41.280
that a little bit all the different
0:21:38.880,0:21:43.980
options you guys have for uh for your
0:21:41.280,0:21:46.620
waypoints and and maybe something that a
0:21:43.980,0:21:48.840
lot of guys maybe don't think about want
0:21:46.620,0:21:51.720
to actually play some waypoints
0:21:48.840,0:21:53.580
yeah for sure so I think first of all
0:21:51.720,0:21:55.500
you know just like you can on any GPS
0:21:53.580,0:21:57.780
you can Mark waypoints you don't have to
0:21:55.500,0:22:00.780
be there you can Mark potential
0:21:57.780,0:22:02.159
waypoints of areas you want to check out
0:22:00.780,0:22:05.159
um you know all sorts of different stuff
0:22:02.159,0:22:07.200
but there are there's so many things
0:22:05.159,0:22:08.460
that you can do with Waypoint set is is
0:22:07.200,0:22:10.380
pretty cool
0:22:08.460,0:22:12.659
um so if you go into add a waypoint
0:22:10.380,0:22:14.159
first of all you can do a quick mark my
0:22:12.659,0:22:16.020
location if you're in the field and you
0:22:14.159,0:22:17.880
want to really quick reference point
0:22:16.020,0:22:20.039
maybe you don't have you know five
0:22:17.880,0:22:21.299
seconds to go in and edit the Waypoint
0:22:20.039,0:22:23.520
or anything like that you can just mark
0:22:21.299,0:22:25.020
my location drops a quick pin right
0:22:23.520,0:22:26.580
where you're at and then you can edit
0:22:25.020,0:22:28.980
that later but
0:22:26.580,0:22:30.900
um So within the waypoints I mean we
0:22:28.980,0:22:31.919
have oh shoot I don't even know how many
0:22:30.900,0:22:37.280
I'm scrolling through right now
0:22:31.919,0:22:40.799
everywhere from uh truck access ATV
0:22:37.280,0:22:43.260
obviously dear elk [ __ ] so many
0:22:40.799,0:22:44.940
different stuff coyote uh trap like
0:22:43.260,0:22:47.039
there's lots of different options where
0:22:44.940,0:22:48.600
you can customize the actual Waypoint
0:22:47.039,0:22:50.580
what it looks like yeah
0:22:48.600,0:22:52.679
um and then colors and everything
0:22:50.580,0:22:55.980
yep and then you can change it by color
0:22:52.679,0:22:58.380
too so one thing I will do is
0:22:55.980,0:23:01.260
if I Mark a waypoint and I haven't been
0:22:58.380,0:23:03.600
there if it's a potential spot that I
0:23:01.260,0:23:05.820
like the looks of or a potential piece
0:23:03.600,0:23:08.220
of access that I'm not sure about I
0:23:05.820,0:23:10.559
always Mark those yellow everybody can
0:23:08.220,0:23:12.600
you know a buddy of mine might do the
0:23:10.559,0:23:14.940
complete opposite but I Mark all of
0:23:12.600,0:23:17.940
those yellow that indicates to me okay
0:23:14.940,0:23:20.220
at one point I liked this area I like
0:23:17.940,0:23:22.260
this glassing knob I like this accessed
0:23:20.220,0:23:24.360
into some public but I haven't been
0:23:22.260,0:23:26.880
there you know I'm that's my e-scouting
0:23:24.360,0:23:29.159
stuff and once I go to those and it
0:23:26.880,0:23:31.500
checks out and it's good I'll change the
0:23:29.159,0:23:33.000
color add notes Etc but
0:23:31.500,0:23:35.460
um that's just one example of what you
0:23:33.000,0:23:38.280
can do with the colors some people use
0:23:35.460,0:23:42.240
the Colors by year so 2023 colors will
0:23:38.280,0:23:44.820
all be blue 2024 will then be red Etc to
0:23:42.240,0:23:47.880
to differentiate year to year
0:23:44.820,0:23:49.440
um lots of different uses of colors you
0:23:47.880,0:23:52.080
know species maybe all you're you're
0:23:49.440,0:23:54.120
calling coyote waypoints are red maybe
0:23:52.080,0:23:56.520
all your big game stuff is green and
0:23:54.120,0:23:58.020
turkeys blue or whatever lots of
0:23:56.520,0:24:00.600
different stuff there you can also add
0:23:58.020,0:24:02.340
photos to those so yep
0:24:00.600,0:24:05.039
um you know if you come across a really
0:24:02.340,0:24:07.679
good stand and you mark that location
0:24:05.039,0:24:09.600
for future years or to share to a buddy
0:24:07.679,0:24:11.760
or something like that you can actually
0:24:09.600,0:24:13.679
take a photo of that within that
0:24:11.760,0:24:15.720
Waypoint so you could take a photo from
0:24:13.679,0:24:17.880
you know where you set the call like
0:24:15.720,0:24:19.260
what your view is just to get a
0:24:17.880,0:24:21.720
reference point because if you don't hit
0:24:19.260,0:24:24.299
that stand for say two or three years go
0:24:21.720,0:24:26.580
by you might be like wondering okay what
0:24:24.299,0:24:28.080
was it like was it open what like what
0:24:26.580,0:24:31.200
was the setup like so you can just take
0:24:28.080,0:24:33.299
a photo add it in there you can uh jot
0:24:31.200,0:24:35.700
notes down maybe you had a really good
0:24:33.299,0:24:38.220
calling set up and you shot a triple or
0:24:35.700,0:24:39.720
something you can uh in the notes you
0:24:38.220,0:24:42.000
could say like what time of day you were
0:24:39.720,0:24:44.039
there what the weather was like you know
0:24:42.000,0:24:46.799
what call you used all sorts of
0:24:44.039,0:24:48.780
different stuff and and then save it and
0:24:46.799,0:24:50.820
then to access that information all you
0:24:48.780,0:24:52.320
have to do is just tap on that Waypoint
0:24:50.820,0:24:54.360
and all that information gets pulled
0:24:52.320,0:24:55.919
right back up right I need and that's
0:24:54.360,0:24:58.500
one thing that I haven't played with
0:24:55.919,0:25:00.600
much that I am going to start using is
0:24:58.500,0:25:02.640
is adding those notes to those waypoints
0:25:00.600,0:25:04.620
I'm I'm pretty big on the colors you
0:25:02.640,0:25:06.419
know I've got my own system especially
0:25:04.620,0:25:07.799
on public ground if we're hunting big
0:25:06.419,0:25:10.380
tracks of public ground you know I'll
0:25:07.799,0:25:13.679
have a I'll put to just uh the Red X
0:25:10.380,0:25:16.140
down for a coyote stand well if I kill a
0:25:13.679,0:25:17.940
coyote at that X I change that over to
0:25:16.140,0:25:19.620
the Red Coyote you know that's a that's
0:25:17.940,0:25:22.440
a stand I'm going to make every year
0:25:19.620,0:25:25.679
from here to the end of time because I
0:25:22.440,0:25:28.020
know I can kill bioter if I hear coyotes
0:25:25.679,0:25:29.940
in a certain area I'll I'll place a
0:25:28.020,0:25:31.679
little a blue coyote in that certain
0:25:29.940,0:25:35.580
drains because I know coyotes are in
0:25:31.679,0:25:37.380
that and uh and just so on and so on or
0:25:35.580,0:25:39.120
spots where I have seen coyotes as I'm
0:25:37.380,0:25:41.159
driving I put a like a yellow coyote
0:25:39.120,0:25:42.659
tear I want to mark all those spots
0:25:41.159,0:25:43.980
because if a coyote's been there once
0:25:42.659,0:25:45.960
there's a pretty good chance he's going
0:25:43.980,0:25:48.419
to be there there's going to be cow in
0:25:45.960,0:25:51.120
that area from you know now to the end
0:25:48.419,0:25:52.740
of time so I'm big I'm big with the with
0:25:51.120,0:25:55.799
the marking the colors I think it's a
0:25:52.740,0:25:58.559
really really cool feature myself
0:25:55.799,0:26:00.240
yeah and I mean it takes an extra couple
0:25:58.559,0:26:01.919
seconds to do and when you're in the
0:26:00.240,0:26:05.100
field I understand like there's been
0:26:01.919,0:26:06.600
times where I've been busy or like you
0:26:05.100,0:26:08.159
know you got your head on a swivel for
0:26:06.600,0:26:10.200
looking for coyotes coming in so you
0:26:08.159,0:26:12.240
just quickly Mark a waypoint and don't
0:26:10.200,0:26:14.640
take those extra two seconds
0:26:12.240,0:26:16.559
and then it's it's easy to forget about
0:26:14.640,0:26:17.940
them and time goes by and you're like I
0:26:16.559,0:26:19.919
don't even know what this Waypoint was
0:26:17.940,0:26:20.880
for you know I'm just gonna I'm just
0:26:19.919,0:26:23.340
gonna delete it because it's just
0:26:20.880,0:26:25.799
cluttering so one thing I always urge
0:26:23.340,0:26:28.260
people is like take the extra three four
0:26:25.799,0:26:30.419
five seconds Mark the Waypoint when you
0:26:28.260,0:26:33.000
have that time to do that and jot some
0:26:30.419,0:26:35.159
notes down make it make sense because a
0:26:33.000,0:26:37.140
couple years goes by if if you haven't
0:26:35.159,0:26:38.400
been there and all of a sudden you you
0:26:37.140,0:26:40.559
know you might not remember those
0:26:38.400,0:26:42.179
details and things like that so it is
0:26:40.559,0:26:44.340
really really helpful to have that log
0:26:42.179,0:26:46.679
and that information and it's a pretty
0:26:44.340,0:26:48.840
easy way to do it and to tie it to a
0:26:46.679,0:26:50.760
specific point because even if you keep
0:26:48.840,0:26:53.640
a journal and you're writing notes down
0:26:50.760,0:26:56.400
for stand set up and call sequence use
0:26:53.640,0:26:59.400
and all these sorts of things that's
0:26:56.400,0:27:01.679
great but a you can lose that b you
0:26:59.400,0:27:04.020
don't really there's not a great tie to
0:27:01.679,0:27:05.820
exactly the location that that
0:27:04.020,0:27:07.080
information happened at right and the
0:27:05.820,0:27:09.299
app is a pretty good way of doing it
0:27:07.080,0:27:11.400
Heck if you lose your phone you get a
0:27:09.299,0:27:12.900
new phone you just log into the app with
0:27:11.400,0:27:15.059
your same stuff and it's all right there
0:27:12.900,0:27:16.380
so it's it's a it's a pretty seamless
0:27:15.059,0:27:18.360
way and
0:27:16.380,0:27:19.919
um I constantly have to remind myself to
0:27:18.360,0:27:22.679
take the extra minute and just do it
0:27:19.919,0:27:25.500
right oh it's no it's
0:27:22.679,0:27:27.120
no spot on and like I said I I need to
0:27:25.500,0:27:29.220
start using the note stuff more often
0:27:27.120,0:27:30.659
and I and I am going to this year
0:27:29.220,0:27:32.640
because there's just like you said
0:27:30.659,0:27:34.080
there's been many times we might be
0:27:32.640,0:27:37.620
going to a certain area that we've got
0:27:34.080,0:27:39.120
coyote stands you know jotted down like
0:27:37.620,0:27:40.559
crazy you know it looks you know you
0:27:39.120,0:27:43.200
look at her map and there's just point
0:27:40.559,0:27:45.840
after point after Point well we'll look
0:27:43.200,0:27:47.580
at one I'm like man I don't I don't
0:27:45.840,0:27:49.679
remember that stand I don't really know
0:27:47.580,0:27:51.200
what that looks like we'll just go to it
0:27:49.679,0:27:53.700
I know we've killed coyotes here before
0:27:51.200,0:27:54.840
let's just go to it make it then you
0:27:53.700,0:27:56.100
start getting in there and you get in
0:27:54.840,0:27:57.600
there and sit down you're like oh yeah I
0:27:56.100,0:27:59.760
remember his Stan I killed a double here
0:27:57.600,0:28:00.960
year before last or whatever but if you
0:27:59.760,0:28:02.580
had the notes in there you would know
0:28:00.960,0:28:05.100
right off the bat before you ever walked
0:28:02.580,0:28:07.980
in so that's a pretty cool feature
0:28:05.100,0:28:08.760
yeah no it it certainly is
0:28:07.980,0:28:10.500
um
0:28:08.760,0:28:12.559
yeah lots of cool stuff you can do with
0:28:10.500,0:28:14.880
waypoints and really that's just kind of
0:28:12.559,0:28:16.500
waypoints are kind of by themselves but
0:28:14.880,0:28:19.799
there's a lot of other Cool Tools you
0:28:16.500,0:28:22.080
can use like line distance area shape
0:28:19.799,0:28:23.760
um some some new stuff that we can get
0:28:22.080,0:28:26.100
into but like line distance for example
0:28:23.760,0:28:27.419
there's a couple ways of doing it you
0:28:26.100,0:28:29.760
can actually go to your tools line
0:28:27.419,0:28:32.640
distance tap the map tap the map again
0:28:29.760,0:28:34.740
and see that distance there but we now
0:28:32.640,0:28:37.080
actually offer a quick two finger line
0:28:34.740,0:28:39.240
distance so it should be turned on in
0:28:37.080,0:28:41.100
your settings but you can just tap the
0:28:39.240,0:28:43.620
map with your two fingers at the same
0:28:41.100,0:28:45.480
time any two points and it will measure
0:28:43.620,0:28:47.580
the distance between those two points so
0:28:45.480,0:28:50.159
if you're looking at say you know
0:28:47.580,0:28:52.440
exactly where a den is and you want to
0:28:50.159,0:28:53.760
set up you know far enough away but not
0:28:52.440,0:28:55.320
too far
0:28:53.760,0:28:58.320
um say you want to I don't know set up
0:28:55.320,0:29:00.720
300 yards 200 yards from a den you can
0:28:58.320,0:29:02.880
obviously have that marked and then just
0:29:00.720,0:29:06.000
set set both your fingers on the map and
0:29:02.880,0:29:08.340
it'll tell you exactly how far away you
0:29:06.000,0:29:11.220
know any particular point is from that
0:29:08.340,0:29:13.080
so it's a pretty cool way to measure
0:29:11.220,0:29:15.299
distance to figure out you know how how
0:29:13.080,0:29:17.159
long is this shot going to be how far is
0:29:15.299,0:29:18.840
my sound going to carry if I set up here
0:29:17.159,0:29:20.159
and I want to call up into the head end
0:29:18.840,0:29:22.559
of this drainage
0:29:20.159,0:29:25.380
um all sorts of different uses there no
0:29:22.559,0:29:26.940
it's that's great stuff and uh I think
0:29:25.380,0:29:29.039
it's something worth talking about I
0:29:26.940,0:29:32.700
know there's a lot a ton of people that
0:29:29.039,0:29:34.799
use uh the haunted the Onyx hunt app for
0:29:32.700,0:29:36.539
for locating turkeys and like they'll
0:29:34.799,0:29:38.220
they'll find places that they want to
0:29:36.539,0:29:40.080
you know try to locate from and after
0:29:38.220,0:29:42.059
they locate turkeys they'll they'll mark
0:29:40.080,0:29:44.580
them you know I actually do the same
0:29:42.059,0:29:46.980
thing for coyotes I've got spots marked
0:29:44.580,0:29:48.480
where I go listen for coyotes I'll get
0:29:46.980,0:29:50.640
out there and I'll howl use the extra
0:29:48.480,0:29:52.500
dark you know when it's night time set a
0:29:50.640,0:29:54.659
call up on top of the truck or grab a
0:29:52.500,0:29:56.700
mouth diaphragm or whatever and rip out
0:29:54.659,0:29:58.799
some howls and and try to get some
0:29:56.700,0:30:00.600
coyotes to answer and if I do get
0:29:58.799,0:30:02.880
coyotes to answer I try to pinpoint
0:30:00.600,0:30:05.760
where I think they're at on the map and
0:30:02.880,0:30:08.039
that's when I'll place like a a blue uh
0:30:05.760,0:30:09.659
coyote icon where I think those coyotes
0:30:08.039,0:30:13.080
are howling from and the next thing I do
0:30:09.659,0:30:15.779
is start looking on the map to wear a
0:30:13.080,0:30:17.159
good calling location would be to to
0:30:15.779,0:30:19.740
call them up and just like you said
0:30:17.159,0:30:21.480
using your your line distance features
0:30:19.740,0:30:24.779
try to figure at how far off you would
0:30:21.480,0:30:26.760
be from there of course you got uh what
0:30:24.779,0:30:28.620
next thing you do is whenever you get
0:30:26.760,0:30:31.020
the right wind to go back here and Hunt
0:30:28.620,0:30:33.779
that area I'll go make my coyote stand
0:30:31.020,0:30:35.100
and oftentimes oh coyotes especially in
0:30:33.779,0:30:36.659
the spring and summer months when
0:30:35.100,0:30:37.980
they're dinning pups they're pretty
0:30:36.659,0:30:39.179
gonna be in the same area it's pretty
0:30:37.980,0:30:41.159
consistent because you know they're not
0:30:39.179,0:30:42.720
moving those pups really and you can go
0:30:41.159,0:30:44.340
in there and really clean up the coyotes
0:30:42.720,0:30:46.320
what I'll do like if I know I'm going to
0:30:44.340,0:30:47.940
be hunting this weekend and I think I
0:30:46.320,0:30:49.559
can locate some coyotes I'll go to
0:30:47.940,0:30:52.260
several different locations as I've got
0:30:49.559,0:30:54.419
marked on the app and I'll howl from
0:30:52.260,0:30:56.580
those spots and if I get answers back
0:30:54.419,0:30:58.500
I'll mark them and then I for that
0:30:56.580,0:30:59.940
weekend I've got a whole plan of the
0:30:58.500,0:31:01.740
insights I know where there's going to
0:30:59.940,0:31:04.020
be coyotes at that I can go make these
0:31:01.740,0:31:05.580
make these stands and a lot of times you
0:31:04.020,0:31:07.260
can have some real high percentage
0:31:05.580,0:31:09.659
call-ins doing that type of stuff you
0:31:07.260,0:31:12.120
can really really up your odds
0:31:09.659,0:31:13.919
Yeah a hundred percent I I do the same
0:31:12.120,0:31:16.080
thing for Elk honestly you know the
0:31:13.919,0:31:19.320
night before an elk hunt or something I
0:31:16.080,0:31:21.000
will go Cruise some roads and throw off
0:31:19.320,0:31:23.100
some bugles into some different canyons
0:31:21.000,0:31:25.380
and I'm just covering country in the
0:31:23.100,0:31:28.200
pickup in the dark you know hanging out
0:31:25.380,0:31:30.000
and uh I will you know I've got some
0:31:28.200,0:31:32.399
areas where it's okay I bugle here here
0:31:30.000,0:31:34.020
here and here and if I get a bowl to
0:31:32.399,0:31:36.000
respond I'll immediately pull out the
0:31:34.020,0:31:37.740
app and say okay he was down the
0:31:36.000,0:31:39.960
drainage on the other face like I'm
0:31:37.740,0:31:42.539
guessing he was out here Mark that
0:31:39.960,0:31:44.640
Waypoint and more often times than not
0:31:42.539,0:31:46.500
if you're the first person in that area
0:31:44.640,0:31:48.000
the next morning like you'll get on that
0:31:46.500,0:31:48.720
same bowl and it's you know it's the
0:31:48.000,0:31:50.760
same
0:31:48.720,0:31:52.140
same thing and actually that's I use
0:31:50.760,0:31:54.059
that same
0:31:52.140,0:31:56.399
um mindset that you have there to to
0:31:54.059,0:31:57.960
shoot a archery elk last year
0:31:56.399,0:32:00.059
um bull was bugling in the morning it
0:31:57.960,0:32:02.520
was dark and I pinpointed kind of where
0:32:00.059,0:32:06.840
he was on the map and using the map I
0:32:02.520,0:32:09.059
was able to stock into where he was
0:32:06.840,0:32:10.860
um it was dark out but I was using the
0:32:09.059,0:32:13.140
map and the topography and stuff to know
0:32:10.860,0:32:14.880
okay if I wrap around this way that I'll
0:32:13.140,0:32:16.980
be out of sight
0:32:14.880,0:32:19.380
um and five minutes after legal shoot
0:32:16.980,0:32:21.419
light I was 40 yards from a big six
0:32:19.380,0:32:23.880
point because of it so it you know you
0:32:21.419,0:32:25.679
can use it for those things in the dark
0:32:23.880,0:32:29.100
and pinpoint where those animals are if
0:32:25.679,0:32:31.200
they're being vocal and yeah that's it's
0:32:29.100,0:32:33.480
much better to go into the into the
0:32:31.200,0:32:35.700
weekend knowing hey I had coyotes
0:32:33.480,0:32:38.840
respond in these five locations and
0:32:35.700,0:32:41.760
going into the weekend being like wow
0:32:38.840,0:32:43.919
yeah we might catch one we might call
0:32:41.760,0:32:45.960
one up yeah there's I mean it totally
0:32:43.919,0:32:48.480
changes the way you might call the way
0:32:45.960,0:32:50.640
you'll set up if you know that you're
0:32:48.480,0:32:52.440
going to be calling the couch for a fact
0:32:50.640,0:32:54.960
and where they're most likely going to
0:32:52.440,0:32:56.520
be at same thing same thing like for the
0:32:54.960,0:32:58.380
Elk it's like he was talking about put
0:32:56.520,0:33:00.720
you within 40 yards of a big bugling
0:32:58.380,0:33:04.500
bull did you kill did you kill that bull
0:33:00.720,0:33:05.840
I did yeah yeah it was uh yeah it was it
0:33:04.500,0:33:08.520
was a good morning
0:33:05.840,0:33:09.659
no doubt anytime you could make six but
0:33:08.520,0:33:10.940
six on the ground it's been a good
0:33:09.659,0:33:14.760
morning
0:33:10.940,0:33:17.519
yeah but uh you know just using the maps
0:33:14.760,0:33:18.960
in a lot of people use the maps and
0:33:17.519,0:33:21.240
think like okay I'm gonna find where I'm
0:33:18.960,0:33:24.120
gonna go I'm gonna Mark campway points
0:33:21.240,0:33:25.980
and things like that but it's uh it's
0:33:24.120,0:33:28.380
pretty easy to overlook those type of
0:33:25.980,0:33:30.779
things of you know go use it in the dark
0:33:28.380,0:33:32.820
you can see the topography on your map
0:33:30.779,0:33:35.580
in the dark you can navigate you know
0:33:32.820,0:33:37.200
whether I'm on a Pacquiao or just now
0:33:35.580,0:33:39.539
getting back to my vehicle in the dark
0:33:37.200,0:33:40.799
yeah I can get a bearing and just go
0:33:39.539,0:33:42.059
straight at it but that's probably not
0:33:40.799,0:33:44.340
going to be the best way I'm going to
0:33:42.059,0:33:46.260
study the maps and the topography and
0:33:44.340,0:33:48.299
say okay if I go straight at my vehicle
0:33:46.260,0:33:49.260
after a calling session or something in
0:33:48.299,0:33:51.419
the dark
0:33:49.260,0:33:52.980
I'm going to drop down this Canyon back
0:33:51.419,0:33:54.720
up the other side and do it once more
0:33:52.980,0:33:57.480
again yeah but if I just follow the
0:33:54.720,0:33:59.940
topography on the phone and know exactly
0:33:57.480,0:34:02.220
where I'm at well that just saved me you
0:33:59.940,0:34:04.740
know a thousand feet or 500 feet of
0:34:02.220,0:34:07.620
vertical right incline Decline and and
0:34:04.740,0:34:09.599
uh use it that way so I think that's a
0:34:07.620,0:34:12.419
pretty underutilized
0:34:09.599,0:34:13.980
um time to use the the map I'll tell you
0:34:12.419,0:34:15.599
another thing comes in pretty handy and
0:34:13.980,0:34:18.119
you just reminded me of it talking about
0:34:15.599,0:34:20.099
uh you know smashing a big six point
0:34:18.119,0:34:21.359
bull you know dragging out coyotes
0:34:20.099,0:34:23.460
pretty easy you just don't have to have
0:34:21.359,0:34:25.800
no help dragging a coyote out but uh
0:34:23.460,0:34:27.540
when a man gets a bull elk on the ground
0:34:25.800,0:34:29.820
if anybody's ever done it they know what
0:34:27.540,0:34:31.980
it's like trying to pack a elk out and
0:34:29.820,0:34:34.619
trying to do it by yourself is
0:34:31.980,0:34:36.419
absolutely horrible I mean it's it's
0:34:34.619,0:34:38.520
pretty cool I mean I mean it's it's
0:34:36.419,0:34:39.960
worth the effort but a lot of times
0:34:38.520,0:34:42.480
that's when you find out if you got any
0:34:39.960,0:34:44.280
good buddies or not and one good thing
0:34:42.480,0:34:46.500
about this you can Mark where you've
0:34:44.280,0:34:48.000
killed that bull where you're at and you
0:34:46.500,0:34:50.280
can share your waypoints you can share
0:34:48.000,0:34:52.740
waypoints you can share photo with with
0:34:50.280,0:34:55.200
your Hunting Buddies and they can they
0:34:52.740,0:34:58.740
can really pay off as well
0:34:55.200,0:35:01.140
100 and actually that okay you do have
0:34:58.740,0:35:02.880
to have sir the one caveat there is to
0:35:01.140,0:35:04.440
share right now you do have to have
0:35:02.880,0:35:07.080
service right right
0:35:04.440,0:35:09.960
um but once I shot that bull last year I
0:35:07.080,0:35:12.240
did I I marked Waypoint and before me
0:35:09.960,0:35:13.800
and my cousin got to working them up I
0:35:12.240,0:35:16.619
sent that Waypoint to my dad and uncle
0:35:13.800,0:35:18.480
and I was like hey bulldown um I'll be
0:35:16.619,0:35:20.339
right here if you guys are done with
0:35:18.480,0:35:21.720
your morning hunt or whatever if you
0:35:20.339,0:35:24.119
could come help and they showed up they
0:35:21.720,0:35:26.099
walked right to the Waypoint outside of
0:35:24.119,0:35:27.780
that you know it's like even if you can
0:35:26.099,0:35:29.460
make a phone call you're like yeah go
0:35:27.780,0:35:33.060
about a mile up the Ridge and then
0:35:29.460,0:35:34.859
you'll see a dead uh pine tree turn
0:35:33.060,0:35:36.300
right there come down the ridge go to
0:35:34.859,0:35:37.920
it's like
0:35:36.300,0:35:40.500
odds are they're not going to find you
0:35:37.920,0:35:42.300
you know it's it's pretty tough
0:35:40.500,0:35:45.359
um I've also done that in the past two
0:35:42.300,0:35:47.579
in the middle of of dark or once it got
0:35:45.359,0:35:49.859
dark you know I shot a elk right at last
0:35:47.579,0:35:52.020
Light and I marked a waypoint sent it to
0:35:49.859,0:35:53.700
a buddy and in the dark he just walked
0:35:52.020,0:35:55.560
right to me and no problem at all and
0:35:53.700,0:35:58.020
and helped out otherwise it would have
0:35:55.560,0:36:00.420
been you know a fiasco and honestly not
0:35:58.020,0:36:02.099
safe trying to figure out where I was
0:36:00.420,0:36:04.020
throughout the night in the the
0:36:02.099,0:36:06.180
mountains in the dark but yeah you can
0:36:04.020,0:36:08.820
share waypoints uh you can share folders
0:36:06.180,0:36:11.400
as you alluded to so if you have an
0:36:08.820,0:36:12.780
entire property marked up
0:36:11.400,0:36:14.820
um from different stands different
0:36:12.780,0:36:17.160
coyote locations all of that information
0:36:14.820,0:36:19.380
marked up you could put that entire
0:36:17.160,0:36:21.480
property into a folder and then share
0:36:19.380,0:36:22.140
that folder so
0:36:21.480,0:36:23.640
um
0:36:22.140,0:36:25.260
if you have a hunting buddy you're going
0:36:23.640,0:36:27.060
out with or whatever you know you can
0:36:25.260,0:36:30.000
just send them meet up locations with a
0:36:27.060,0:36:32.880
single individual waypoints or entire
0:36:30.000,0:36:34.500
hunt plans with 50 waypoints and line
0:36:32.880,0:36:37.140
distance and all sorts of cool stuff in
0:36:34.500,0:36:39.300
there yeah it's I use those features
0:36:37.140,0:36:42.000
pretty often it's just like if we do
0:36:39.300,0:36:43.440
locate coyotes a lot of times we'll you
0:36:42.000,0:36:45.540
know either be hunting I'll have
0:36:43.440,0:36:47.820
somebody hunting with me a hunting buddy
0:36:45.540,0:36:50.420
or I'll have a cameraman who's who's
0:36:47.820,0:36:53.400
also you know a Avid coyote Hunter so
0:36:50.420,0:36:55.619
I'm all I'm all up for getting advice so
0:36:53.400,0:36:57.660
usually I'll send waypoints share them
0:36:55.619,0:37:00.180
I'll say you know hey right here's where
0:36:57.660,0:37:01.619
coyotes are howling at this right here
0:37:00.180,0:37:03.300
is where I'm thinking about setting up
0:37:01.619,0:37:04.560
take a look at that see what you think
0:37:03.300,0:37:06.599
see if we need to do something different
0:37:04.560,0:37:08.040
and you know you put two heads together
0:37:06.599,0:37:09.960
and maybe come up with a different plan
0:37:08.040,0:37:12.359
or get reassurance if they think it's a
0:37:09.960,0:37:12.960
good setup as well I do that a lot
0:37:12.359,0:37:15.180
um
0:37:12.960,0:37:17.460
we've got a few properties leased here
0:37:15.180,0:37:20.700
at home and I own a couple properties
0:37:17.460,0:37:22.920
that we deer hunt quite a bit we've got
0:37:20.700,0:37:25.320
those properties you know their own
0:37:22.920,0:37:26.820
folder with all the tree stand locations
0:37:25.320,0:37:28.140
and stuff like that we have guests come
0:37:26.820,0:37:30.060
in I can share that with them they'll
0:37:28.140,0:37:31.619
know where everything's at we've got
0:37:30.060,0:37:33.900
leases in other states we've got a
0:37:31.619,0:37:35.940
couple leases in Ohio uh there's a few
0:37:33.900,0:37:37.800
of us that's got that folder we know
0:37:35.940,0:37:39.119
exactly where all the stands are at the
0:37:37.800,0:37:40.560
same thing if you have a guest that
0:37:39.119,0:37:42.960
comes in you want them to hunt a certain
0:37:40.560,0:37:44.220
stand it's easy it's easy for them to
0:37:42.960,0:37:46.440
find it and everybody like I said you
0:37:44.220,0:37:48.119
can share it with with buddies and you
0:37:46.440,0:37:49.619
can help you get a game plan go and say
0:37:48.119,0:37:51.000
Hey you know anything about hunting this
0:37:49.619,0:37:53.339
thing the wind's gonna be coming out of
0:37:51.000,0:37:55.500
this I think deer coming out of here you
0:37:53.339,0:37:57.240
know and so on so on and so on it can uh
0:37:55.500,0:37:58.859
it's a it's a really good tool that I
0:37:57.240,0:38:01.619
use quite a bit
0:37:58.859,0:38:04.140
yeah for sure and honestly too sharing
0:38:01.619,0:38:06.180
uh your tracks is really really valuable
0:38:04.140,0:38:08.579
especially if you know you want to get
0:38:06.180,0:38:10.260
to a stand in the dark or something as
0:38:08.579,0:38:12.839
you know there's there's ways you can go
0:38:10.260,0:38:15.420
into an area and really mess it up along
0:38:12.839,0:38:16.680
the way or there's some smart ways to
0:38:15.420,0:38:18.060
get into an area and it doesn't matter
0:38:16.680,0:38:20.760
if you're Whitetail hunting trying to
0:38:18.060,0:38:21.900
get into your stand and not cover you
0:38:20.760,0:38:24.660
know the area you want to hunt with
0:38:21.900,0:38:27.119
scent or coyote hunting not ridgelining
0:38:24.660,0:38:29.760
and exposing yourself on a Skyline like
0:38:27.119,0:38:31.920
there's uh there's right and wrong ways
0:38:29.760,0:38:34.800
to get into areas and if you have that
0:38:31.920,0:38:36.359
track and you share it whether you know
0:38:34.800,0:38:38.640
if you're sharing it to somebody to go
0:38:36.359,0:38:40.260
into there or if you're just following
0:38:38.640,0:38:41.579
it the next time you go in there A lot
0:38:40.260,0:38:43.079
of times what I'll do is I'll track
0:38:41.579,0:38:44.940
myself
0:38:43.079,0:38:47.579
um especially bear hunting there's some
0:38:44.940,0:38:50.040
I find myself in some really really bad
0:38:47.579,0:38:51.599
spots bear hunting for some reason right
0:38:50.040,0:38:53.640
um in the mountains just areas that you
0:38:51.599,0:38:55.140
look around you're like I never ever
0:38:53.640,0:38:57.060
want to come back here again this is
0:38:55.140,0:38:59.040
horrible yeah if I if I feel a bear in
0:38:57.060,0:39:01.800
his hole I'll never get it out anyway
0:38:59.040,0:39:03.839
yeah exactly or you get clipped out or
0:39:01.800,0:39:05.880
just all sorts of stuff and so what I
0:39:03.839,0:39:09.300
found is it's better to track yourself
0:39:05.880,0:39:10.560
almost all the time and then you know if
0:39:09.300,0:39:13.020
you don't need the track at the end of
0:39:10.560,0:39:15.960
it just delete it but I'll save tracks
0:39:13.020,0:39:18.000
and mark them red and that tells me like
0:39:15.960,0:39:20.040
okay this is not a good way to go into
0:39:18.000,0:39:22.020
that the spot right now I might hunt
0:39:20.040,0:39:24.180
that same area again track myself again
0:39:22.020,0:39:26.520
find a good route you know it's amazing
0:39:24.180,0:39:29.099
what like an old elk Trail will do you
0:39:26.520,0:39:31.200
could be 10 yards below an elk Trail the
0:39:29.099,0:39:33.900
whole time and just struggling on on
0:39:31.200,0:39:35.940
screen and just nasty stuff right and
0:39:33.900,0:39:37.859
you find find that out Trail and all of
0:39:35.940,0:39:39.900
a sudden you're jogging down off the
0:39:37.859,0:39:41.460
side of the mountain so right
0:39:39.900,0:39:43.740
um you know I might go into that same
0:39:41.460,0:39:45.960
area again track myself if I find a good
0:39:43.740,0:39:48.480
one then I'll save it green or something
0:39:45.960,0:39:50.160
and just note like go this way like
0:39:48.480,0:39:52.440
don't drop down here you're gonna get
0:39:50.160,0:39:55.140
clipped out right right yeah that's all
0:39:52.440,0:39:57.240
it's all good stuff uh let's let's move
0:39:55.140,0:40:00.060
on to another topic here real quick what
0:39:57.240,0:40:02.339
about uh what about maplay players Dylan
0:40:00.060,0:40:04.980
it's a it can be a very important tool
0:40:02.339,0:40:07.560
what kind of what kind of layers you
0:40:04.980,0:40:09.119
clicking off or you know what private
0:40:07.560,0:40:11.099
lands information all your government
0:40:09.119,0:40:12.540
lands and so on what what all do you
0:40:11.099,0:40:13.619
like to click off or states that you
0:40:12.540,0:40:15.980
hunt
0:40:13.619,0:40:18.420
for sure so it definitely
0:40:15.980,0:40:20.040
there's a lot of different layers a ton
0:40:18.420,0:40:21.839
of different information and the cool
0:40:20.040,0:40:25.140
thing about it is you can customize it
0:40:21.839,0:40:27.060
to what what you want So based on the
0:40:25.140,0:40:29.760
hunt the time of year
0:40:27.060,0:40:31.200
um where I'm at I might have layers on
0:40:29.760,0:40:33.060
differently
0:40:31.200,0:40:35.880
um you know if I'm elk hunting and I'm
0:40:33.060,0:40:38.640
I'm looking for a burn area like I'll
0:40:35.880,0:40:40.320
have historic wildfires on if I am not
0:40:38.640,0:40:42.119
necessary if I don't care about a burn
0:40:40.320,0:40:44.400
in that particular area I'll turn it off
0:40:42.119,0:40:46.260
just to declutter my map but there's
0:40:44.400,0:40:48.900
there's a lot to it I mean we could we
0:40:46.260,0:40:50.760
could chat heck for 45 minutes just on
0:40:48.900,0:40:53.460
the layers but some of the some of the
0:40:50.760,0:40:54.900
key ones are you know you go into your
0:40:53.460,0:40:56.220
state
0:40:54.900,0:40:58.800
um the private lands the government
0:40:56.220,0:41:00.060
lands are always important to have on in
0:40:58.800,0:41:02.220
my opinion because then you know
0:41:00.060,0:41:04.320
obviously what's private was public if
0:41:02.220,0:41:07.440
it's private you got a landowner name
0:41:04.320,0:41:09.119
um hunting districts pretty important um
0:41:07.440,0:41:11.700
for a lot of things especially a big
0:41:09.119,0:41:13.500
game one thing to note so like Montana
0:41:11.700,0:41:15.839
for example
0:41:13.500,0:41:18.480
we have different hunting districts
0:41:15.839,0:41:20.760
based on species a lot of times so you
0:41:18.480,0:41:22.260
can actually go within that and choose
0:41:20.760,0:41:24.180
what species you want to see so if I'm
0:41:22.260,0:41:25.740
antelope hunting I'll go turn those
0:41:24.180,0:41:27.599
units on
0:41:25.740,0:41:30.000
um so on and so forth
0:41:27.599,0:41:32.339
and then there's lots of other cool
0:41:30.000,0:41:35.099
things one thing that
0:41:32.339,0:41:37.619
um really is beneficial is so Montana we
0:41:35.099,0:41:40.260
we call it block management but what it
0:41:37.619,0:41:42.920
is is there's a lot of different
0:41:40.260,0:41:46.440
um different opportunities in each state
0:41:42.920,0:41:48.839
that allows the public to access private
0:41:46.440,0:41:52.020
property so Montana's is called block
0:41:48.839,0:41:54.119
management a lot of times it's you know
0:41:52.020,0:41:56.520
that that's what it is is private
0:41:54.119,0:41:58.380
property that they have worked with
0:41:56.520,0:42:00.079
um either fishing game or some sort of
0:41:58.380,0:42:03.240
organization to
0:42:00.079,0:42:05.280
offer the public access
0:42:03.240,0:42:06.960
um during hunting seasons so you can
0:42:05.280,0:42:08.760
check that opens up a lot of really cool
0:42:06.960,0:42:09.960
opportunities
0:42:08.760,0:42:13.380
um and then there's always some
0:42:09.960,0:42:15.540
state-specific uh layers there that may
0:42:13.380,0:42:17.940
or may not benefit you but
0:42:15.540,0:42:20.460
um you go into current conditions we've
0:42:17.940,0:42:23.339
got active Wildfire we actually update
0:42:20.460,0:42:26.480
that hourly during Fire season so if
0:42:23.339,0:42:26.480
there's a fire
0:42:26.579,0:42:30.480
um you know we we have that perimeter
0:42:28.200,0:42:31.800
and then hourly it gets updated and lets
0:42:30.480,0:42:33.960
you know kind of where that fire is at
0:42:31.800,0:42:36.619
what it's doing uh we've got drought
0:42:33.960,0:42:39.480
data air quality precipitation
0:42:36.619,0:42:43.140
CWD smoke forecast
0:42:39.480,0:42:45.420
um and then you go into uh land and
0:42:43.140,0:42:47.160
access and these are all kind of folders
0:42:45.420,0:42:49.200
and then there's layers within the
0:42:47.160,0:42:51.660
folders here so just kind of going down
0:42:49.200,0:42:53.579
in order uh you know lots of stuff here
0:42:51.660,0:42:56.760
that might not pertain to you based on
0:42:53.579,0:42:58.200
where you live but Wilderness Area slope
0:42:56.760,0:42:59.819
angle
0:42:58.200,0:43:02.160
um you've got your section lines which
0:42:59.819,0:43:04.440
is usually pretty important
0:43:02.160,0:43:07.800
um all sorts of different stuff in there
0:43:04.440,0:43:10.140
go down roads trails and wreck I always
0:43:07.800,0:43:12.540
have Trails turned on if you live in an
0:43:10.140,0:43:15.180
area that is has a lot of forest service
0:43:12.540,0:43:17.339
or yes public lands with Trails on it
0:43:15.180,0:43:19.740
it's very helpful to have those turned
0:43:17.339,0:43:22.020
on if not maybe not so much but it's not
0:43:19.740,0:43:23.940
going to hurt to leave those on
0:43:22.020,0:43:26.280
um motorized roads and trails that's
0:43:23.940,0:43:28.319
always a good one to turn on as well you
0:43:26.280,0:43:30.660
can always tap on those roads and trails
0:43:28.319,0:43:32.520
and really anything on the map and more
0:43:30.660,0:43:34.140
information about that will will come up
0:43:32.520,0:43:36.000
so if you're ever looking at anything on
0:43:34.140,0:43:37.800
the app and you're like I don't know
0:43:36.000,0:43:39.300
what this purple color means you know it
0:43:37.800,0:43:41.880
doesn't I'm sure it's saying something
0:43:39.300,0:43:43.560
but I don't understand it just tap on it
0:43:41.880,0:43:45.780
and then more information about that
0:43:43.560,0:43:46.920
location will come up and more often
0:43:45.780,0:43:50.160
times than not we'll answer your
0:43:46.920,0:43:51.839
questions there oh man especially like
0:43:50.160,0:43:53.520
to Road access and stuff I want to make
0:43:51.839,0:43:57.240
sure all that stuff's on especially
0:43:53.520,0:43:59.400
hunting these Western States BLM man you
0:43:57.240,0:44:01.859
can get on some of these two tracks and
0:43:59.400,0:44:04.380
some of these bigger tracks BLM you can
0:44:01.859,0:44:06.119
make coyote stands for a week you know
0:44:04.380,0:44:07.680
going out of certain two tracks I
0:44:06.119,0:44:09.839
definitely want all that stuff turned on
0:44:07.680,0:44:11.700
but yeah there's a lot of a lot of map
0:44:09.839,0:44:13.859
layers there that you can turn on that
0:44:11.700,0:44:15.180
can really they can really help you out
0:44:13.859,0:44:17.579
for all sorts of different kind of
0:44:15.180,0:44:19.020
hunting yeah I'll I'll cover just a
0:44:17.579,0:44:21.300
couple more here that I think will be
0:44:19.020,0:44:23.339
good so if you go into trees crops and
0:44:21.300,0:44:25.500
cover uh Timber Cuts so if you're out
0:44:23.339,0:44:27.119
west and you're you know calling Bears
0:44:25.500,0:44:29.700
or calling coyotes in the mountains and
0:44:27.119,0:44:31.859
it's really you know it's really thick
0:44:29.700,0:44:34.500
if you turn on that Timber cuts it will
0:44:31.859,0:44:36.780
show you areas that have been cut
0:44:34.500,0:44:39.839
um giving you some more more line of
0:44:36.780,0:44:41.640
sight historic Wildfire layer it'll show
0:44:39.839,0:44:44.520
you all the historic fires where they
0:44:41.640,0:44:46.859
were what year crop distribution so
0:44:44.520,0:44:48.300
we'll actually show you last year's crop
0:44:46.859,0:44:50.400
data
0:44:48.300,0:44:52.079
um based on aerial imagery so if you're
0:44:50.400,0:44:54.720
looking for a corn field if you're
0:44:52.079,0:44:57.180
looking for all sorts of stuff
0:44:54.720,0:44:58.920
um you can actually turn that on and see
0:44:57.180,0:45:00.660
what the crop was planted last year
0:44:58.920,0:45:02.579
right which will give you a pretty good
0:45:00.660,0:45:03.359
indication of what might be there this
0:45:02.579,0:45:05.579
year
0:45:03.359,0:45:07.560
and then uh we've got some Wildlife
0:45:05.579,0:45:09.240
specific layers as well but yeah there's
0:45:07.560,0:45:11.700
there's a lot of different stuff what I
0:45:09.240,0:45:13.079
always tell people is to turn them on
0:45:11.700,0:45:15.599
turn them off see what it does to your
0:45:13.079,0:45:18.359
Maps see what is important for you in
0:45:15.599,0:45:20.339
that specific area and you know you're
0:45:18.359,0:45:22.440
not gonna break anything you can turn
0:45:20.339,0:45:23.760
them off turn them on a thousand times
0:45:22.440,0:45:26.099
yeah
0:45:23.760,0:45:28.200
um and I think a lot of people forget to
0:45:26.099,0:45:31.200
go into layers and see what's available
0:45:28.200,0:45:32.460
and and customize them and that's uh you
0:45:31.200,0:45:34.500
know it's it's pretty helpful when you
0:45:32.460,0:45:36.180
get the hang of it right there there's
0:45:34.500,0:45:39.060
one layer that I think a lot of people
0:45:36.180,0:45:40.740
miss miss out on here in the East and
0:45:39.060,0:45:42.599
it's a well-known layer and it is the
0:45:40.740,0:45:44.700
public lands uh stuff at government
0:45:42.599,0:45:45.960
lands the thing is like a lot of people
0:45:44.700,0:45:47.640
think in the eastern states or
0:45:45.960,0:45:50.520
Midwestern states that it's mainly
0:45:47.640,0:45:52.560
private which it is but I think a lot of
0:45:50.520,0:45:53.880
times a lot of hunters it don't matter
0:45:52.560,0:45:56.160
if you're a predator Hunter turkey
0:45:53.880,0:45:57.420
hunter deer hunter or whatever you miss
0:45:56.160,0:45:58.859
out on a lot of ground that you could
0:45:57.420,0:46:00.660
potentially hunt it's just like here in
0:45:58.859,0:46:02.400
the state of Kentucky yeah it's it's
0:46:00.660,0:46:03.960
mostly private ground there's a lot of
0:46:02.400,0:46:06.780
it's you know a lot of private
0:46:03.960,0:46:09.300
landowners but there's also over a
0:46:06.780,0:46:10.680
million Acres of public land hunting
0:46:09.300,0:46:11.819
right here in the state of Kentucky that
0:46:10.680,0:46:13.319
a lot of people don't know about you
0:46:11.819,0:46:14.819
tell them you're like yeah there's over
0:46:13.319,0:46:16.380
a million Acres of public land access
0:46:14.819,0:46:18.420
and they're like really I didn't know
0:46:16.380,0:46:20.520
Kentucky had any public land like the
0:46:18.420,0:46:23.160
Daniel Boone National Forest by itself
0:46:20.520,0:46:25.680
which is open to hunting is over 600 000
0:46:23.160,0:46:27.300
Acres of it or is in Kentucky so just
0:46:25.680,0:46:29.099
because you're in a Midwestern State or
0:46:27.300,0:46:30.660
Eastern State make sure you've got if
0:46:29.099,0:46:33.660
you're looking for more property to hunt
0:46:30.660,0:46:36.180
turn on at government lands uh layer it
0:46:33.660,0:46:37.740
can open your world up to a whole lot
0:46:36.180,0:46:40.319
more hunt
0:46:37.740,0:46:42.240
yeah no for sure there there's more
0:46:40.319,0:46:43.680
opportunity than than what I think a lot
0:46:42.240,0:46:45.599
of people realize
0:46:43.680,0:46:46.920
um and if you just if you're looking for
0:46:45.599,0:46:49.140
a quick place to go where you don't have
0:46:46.920,0:46:50.819
to make a phone call or something go
0:46:49.140,0:46:52.680
check it out you know I don't think it's
0:46:50.819,0:46:54.359
a lot of times as public grounds they're
0:46:52.680,0:46:56.819
not completely overrun with people
0:46:54.359,0:46:58.800
especially if you're not going for you
0:46:56.819,0:47:01.200
know the deer opener or something of
0:46:58.800,0:47:03.720
that nature exactly
0:47:01.200,0:47:05.700
exactly well Dylan you do you guys have
0:47:03.720,0:47:07.859
any new features out for Onyx that you'd
0:47:05.700,0:47:10.440
like to talk about I know uh I know the
0:47:07.859,0:47:13.440
new Apple carplay is pretty sweet and uh
0:47:10.440,0:47:15.060
of course the three 3D maps is a pretty
0:47:13.440,0:47:16.500
impressive deal as well you want to talk
0:47:15.060,0:47:19.680
about those a little bit
0:47:16.500,0:47:20.819
yeah yeah apple carplay is super cool uh
0:47:19.680,0:47:22.920
0:47:20.819,0:47:25.079
um that version of it is coming shortly
0:47:22.920,0:47:26.520
we're waiting on some approvals and
0:47:25.079,0:47:29.520
stuff from their side of things but
0:47:26.520,0:47:31.020
basically if you have apple carplay in
0:47:29.520,0:47:33.480
your vehicle you just plug your phone in
0:47:31.020,0:47:35.099
get your phone hooked up to it and now
0:47:33.480,0:47:36.540
you can just look at Onyx right there
0:47:35.099,0:47:38.460
it'll show waypoints it'll show
0:47:36.540,0:47:39.780
everything you've marked up
0:47:38.460,0:47:42.599
um so as you're driving down the road
0:47:39.780,0:47:44.579
it's uh way more convenient to look and
0:47:42.599,0:47:47.400
say oh there's a piece of public coming
0:47:44.579,0:47:49.980
up on the right down here or oh my turn
0:47:47.400,0:47:51.599
my Waypoint to turn left is you know
0:47:49.980,0:47:53.280
right up here on the map than it is to
0:47:51.599,0:47:55.440
constantly be checking your phone so
0:47:53.280,0:47:57.420
that's pretty cool um it's gone over
0:47:55.440,0:47:58.920
super well
0:47:57.420,0:48:02.280
um the 3D stuff we're actually coming
0:47:58.920,0:48:03.960
out with a much improved 3D that by the
0:48:02.280,0:48:06.300
time that this goes live there's a good
0:48:03.960,0:48:09.060
chance we'll be available
0:48:06.300,0:48:10.680
um so that will be pretty cool always
0:48:09.060,0:48:13.020
making improvements on that side of
0:48:10.680,0:48:15.300
things as well and then a couple other
0:48:13.020,0:48:18.060
really cool ones one of them's on your
0:48:15.300,0:48:21.780
phone it's called Compass mode so if you
0:48:18.060,0:48:23.760
uh tap the My Location dot or button in
0:48:21.780,0:48:24.839
the bottom right hand corner tap it
0:48:23.760,0:48:27.180
again
0:48:24.839,0:48:29.339
uh there's a new icon that comes up in
0:48:27.180,0:48:31.740
the bottom right and if you tap that it
0:48:29.339,0:48:34.020
turns uh turns your phone into Compass
0:48:31.740,0:48:35.940
mode and it kind of shows you a
0:48:34.020,0:48:38.280
rangefinder so it's one of those tools
0:48:35.940,0:48:41.220
that you have to see it to really
0:48:38.280,0:48:43.319
understand the the value and the aha
0:48:41.220,0:48:46.740
moment but essentially what it does is
0:48:43.319,0:48:48.720
at the top of the map it shows a a
0:48:46.740,0:48:51.420
degree so I could say like 45 degrees
0:48:48.720,0:48:53.579
Northeast or whatever get that bearing
0:48:51.420,0:48:56.280
and then if you zoom in
0:48:53.579,0:48:57.060
um there's like a ruler if you will from
0:48:56.280,0:48:59.940
your
0:48:57.060,0:49:02.280
current location to wherever whichever
0:48:59.940,0:49:05.280
direction you're looking at so let's say
0:49:02.280,0:49:07.079
you shoot a coyote at oh well we'll say
0:49:05.280,0:49:08.400
it's a long shot you want to go try and
0:49:07.079,0:49:10.140
recover it and you might not be able to
0:49:08.400,0:49:13.079
see it well when you get over there
0:49:10.140,0:49:15.000
let's just say it's you know 562 yards
0:49:13.079,0:49:19.680
long shot
0:49:15.000,0:49:22.800
um so you can actually type in 562 and
0:49:19.680,0:49:24.599
it will from your current location it
0:49:22.800,0:49:26.700
will put a waypoint exactly that
0:49:24.599,0:49:28.560
distance and then you line up the exact
0:49:26.700,0:49:30.420
Direction it is you can zoom in to make
0:49:28.560,0:49:32.700
sure it's in the right spot and then you
0:49:30.420,0:49:34.200
can add that Waypoint so you know then
0:49:32.700,0:49:35.760
you're going over there to look for a
0:49:34.200,0:49:37.619
waypoint and that Coyote's going to be
0:49:35.760,0:49:39.599
right within that vicinity instead of
0:49:37.619,0:49:41.220
going over there and being like man was
0:49:39.599,0:49:42.180
it this Ridge or is this the next one
0:49:41.220,0:49:43.680
you know
0:49:42.180,0:49:44.640
um I think we've all been there trying
0:49:43.680,0:49:47.160
to find
0:49:44.640,0:49:48.839
something and uh just scratching your
0:49:47.160,0:49:51.119
head especially if you have to drop down
0:49:48.839,0:49:52.380
lose elevation and lose sight right you
0:49:51.119,0:49:54.420
get over there and everything has
0:49:52.380,0:49:56.880
changed so lots of cool applications for
0:49:54.420,0:49:58.619
that but that's uh that's one use case
0:49:56.880,0:50:00.599
there that can be huge for these night
0:49:58.619,0:50:03.720
Hunters you know if they can get a range
0:50:00.599,0:50:05.460
on on a coyote shot at night because man
0:50:03.720,0:50:06.960
yep it can be hard enough trying to find
0:50:05.460,0:50:08.700
one during the daylight you shoot one of
0:50:06.960,0:50:10.760
the pitch black dark then you go try to
0:50:08.700,0:50:13.800
fight it that's a whole nother thing
0:50:10.760,0:50:15.540
oh for sure and I you know they're tough
0:50:13.800,0:50:17.220
to see once in a while I've I've shot
0:50:15.540,0:50:19.859
coyotes in stubble fields that were
0:50:17.220,0:50:22.260
pretty tall stubble yes and you're
0:50:19.859,0:50:24.480
walking around like I didn't get up like
0:50:22.260,0:50:26.339
how like right it should be right here
0:50:24.480,0:50:27.420
and then you just catch it from a
0:50:26.339,0:50:29.160
different angle and it's like oh yeah
0:50:27.420,0:50:30.900
there it is but you know it's it's
0:50:29.160,0:50:32.400
pretty astounding
0:50:30.900,0:50:35.099
um they obviously have some pretty good
0:50:32.400,0:50:36.780
camouflage oh yeah and I know like
0:50:35.099,0:50:38.579
especially if you're not used to terrain
0:50:36.780,0:50:40.319
it's one thing it always gets me when I
0:50:38.579,0:50:42.119
do come back out west and Hunt I don't
0:50:40.319,0:50:44.339
like that Sagebrush country special
0:50:42.119,0:50:46.980
Sagebrush Flats man it all looks the
0:50:44.339,0:50:48.480
same of me you know you shoot a guy when
0:50:46.980,0:50:50.819
I turn your light man that's pretty
0:50:48.480,0:50:52.440
awesome now I gotta find a thing you
0:50:50.819,0:50:53.819
know that can that can be that could be
0:50:52.440,0:50:56.460
pretty tough
0:50:53.819,0:50:58.800
walk around inside for sure for for
0:50:56.460,0:51:00.300
several minutes before you find it
0:50:58.800,0:51:02.819
yeah and that's another one of those
0:51:00.300,0:51:05.339
things just do your due diligence before
0:51:02.819,0:51:08.040
you get up it's easy to make a shot and
0:51:05.339,0:51:09.599
like you know for coyotes if you're
0:51:08.040,0:51:10.980
you're calling you might sit there and
0:51:09.599,0:51:12.839
try and see if another one's gonna pop
0:51:10.980,0:51:14.819
up but yeah a lot of times it's really
0:51:12.839,0:51:16.140
easy to to make that shot shoot that
0:51:14.819,0:51:18.240
bear or whatever and be like sweet let's
0:51:16.140,0:51:19.980
go get it and then you get halfway over
0:51:18.240,0:51:21.839
there and you're like was it this Ridge
0:51:19.980,0:51:24.540
where are we at like oh yeah you know
0:51:21.839,0:51:27.900
it's just it turns pretty messy pretty
0:51:24.540,0:51:30.240
quick and if you just do you know take
0:51:27.900,0:51:32.160
an extra one minute collect your
0:51:30.240,0:51:34.980
thoughts Mark exactly where you shot
0:51:32.160,0:51:39.359
from range the animal range where you
0:51:34.980,0:51:41.940
shot two you know import that into Onyx
0:51:39.359,0:51:44.099
on a waypoint well now at least you have
0:51:41.940,0:51:45.420
a waypoint to go to
0:51:44.099,0:51:46.920
um you know not saying you should just
0:51:45.420,0:51:48.300
put your blinders on and not pay
0:51:46.920,0:51:50.520
attention and just go to the Waypoint
0:51:48.300,0:51:53.460
but at least you get a reference and you
0:51:50.520,0:51:55.920
get over there and you're like wow yeah
0:51:53.460,0:51:57.900
or was it standing 50 yards to my right
0:51:55.920,0:52:01.140
like at least you have a reference point
0:51:57.900,0:52:03.480
and uh it's really helpful not only for
0:52:01.140,0:52:05.040
recovering game but putting stocks on
0:52:03.480,0:52:06.540
things too
0:52:05.040,0:52:08.940
um so many times you know you're sitting
0:52:06.540,0:52:10.260
up there for hours you finally glass up
0:52:08.940,0:52:11.880
a bear and you grab your pack because
0:52:10.260,0:52:13.859
there's only 20 minutes of daylight left
0:52:11.880,0:52:15.839
and you know you're making a Mad Dash
0:52:13.859,0:52:17.700
over there and then you get over there
0:52:15.839,0:52:18.960
and you you don't know exactly where
0:52:17.700,0:52:20.760
you're at in relation to where the
0:52:18.960,0:52:22.140
barrel was feeding and you end up
0:52:20.760,0:52:24.359
bumping it because you're in a rush or
0:52:22.140,0:52:26.099
whatever so you know even if you're
0:52:24.359,0:52:29.160
limited on time if you take that extra
0:52:26.099,0:52:31.200
one minute mark it on the map
0:52:29.160,0:52:33.059
it's it's going to save you so much time
0:52:31.200,0:52:35.700
especially if you're going to go forth
0:52:33.059,0:52:37.440
and put in all that effort and sweat to
0:52:35.700,0:52:39.900
hike down to the bottom of the other
0:52:37.440,0:52:42.059
side only to bump that bear because you
0:52:39.900,0:52:44.760
were being you know unconscious no
0:52:42.059,0:52:46.800
that's that's great stuff I've got uh
0:52:44.760,0:52:48.720
we're starting to get towards the end of
0:52:46.800,0:52:50.280
this deal I got three questions I want
0:52:48.720,0:52:53.819
to ask you kind of put you on a spot
0:52:50.280,0:52:58.319
type perfect one of them one of them is
0:52:53.819,0:53:01.319
four Onyx users What what tool
0:52:58.319,0:53:05.040
it's on onyx app that coyote Hunter
0:53:01.319,0:53:07.140
should be taking advantage of uh to that
0:53:05.040,0:53:09.480
could really help them out maybe maybe a
0:53:07.140,0:53:11.880
layer or some kind of feature that maybe
0:53:09.480,0:53:14.700
most people don't think about uh just
0:53:11.880,0:53:17.220
straight up coyote hunting
0:53:14.700,0:53:18.780
that's a good one um specifically for
0:53:17.220,0:53:21.180
coyote hunting let's see
0:53:18.780,0:53:23.579
what I'll start with this and see if I
0:53:21.180,0:53:25.319
can think of uh a coyote specific one
0:53:23.579,0:53:28.559
but one of the things within the app
0:53:25.319,0:53:30.960
that most people it just it it doesn't
0:53:28.559,0:53:33.059
click and it's amazing
0:53:30.960,0:53:34.800
um you know because it's so it's such a
0:53:33.059,0:53:37.680
key part of the app is the offline map
0:53:34.800,0:53:39.240
so you know we we talked to Folks at
0:53:37.680,0:53:41.040
trade shows and all sorts of things and
0:53:39.240,0:53:43.680
they're like yeah I've used on X for
0:53:41.040,0:53:45.420
years I love it it's best tool ever you
0:53:43.680,0:53:46.680
know and then when I get out there you
0:53:45.420,0:53:48.660
know I'll take screenshots or something
0:53:46.680,0:53:51.059
so I can kind of tell where I'm at and
0:53:48.660,0:53:53.400
it's like you know you almost just want
0:53:51.059,0:53:55.200
to smack your your palm to your forehead
0:53:53.400,0:53:57.300
because it's like you can use the maps
0:53:55.200,0:53:58.740
without cell service but right a lot of
0:53:57.300,0:54:01.200
folks still don't realize that and it's
0:53:58.740,0:54:04.020
so basic but I I always want to harp on
0:54:01.200,0:54:06.180
that because you know it's so important
0:54:04.020,0:54:08.099
um as long as you save the area ahead of
0:54:06.180,0:54:10.319
time so if you're gonna go out and make
0:54:08.099,0:54:12.660
a bunch of stands and and you're gonna
0:54:10.319,0:54:15.359
hunt this general area all you have to
0:54:12.660,0:54:17.640
do is go into the the app go to offline
0:54:15.359,0:54:18.960
maps download that area ahead of time
0:54:17.640,0:54:20.220
and then when you're out there it
0:54:18.960,0:54:22.020
doesn't matter if you have no cell
0:54:20.220,0:54:23.940
service it doesn't matter you've got no
0:54:22.020,0:54:26.579
internet no anything you have everything
0:54:23.940,0:54:28.020
that you need still works just like you
0:54:26.579,0:54:31.200
were sitting on your couch at home so
0:54:28.020,0:54:33.359
that's one thing that I constantly when
0:54:31.200,0:54:35.760
we're out there it's a good one
0:54:33.359,0:54:37.559
yeah and I mean that's coyote that's
0:54:35.760,0:54:39.660
really anything right you know one of
0:54:37.559,0:54:42.119
the things for coyote specific I think
0:54:39.660,0:54:44.160
you hit it really is marking the
0:54:42.119,0:54:46.140
waypoints and and doing the things that
0:54:44.160,0:54:48.720
you're doing with them
0:54:46.140,0:54:50.400
um really really as you were explaining
0:54:48.720,0:54:53.640
that to me it was like yeah that would
0:54:50.400,0:54:56.460
be so valuable marking a specific color
0:54:53.640,0:54:59.160
for where you hear them where you've had
0:54:56.460,0:55:01.020
success and shot one from a stand
0:54:59.160,0:55:02.640
um and adding those notes in you know I
0:55:01.020,0:55:04.319
think it's it's one of those things you
0:55:02.640,0:55:06.839
can use that for different species and
0:55:04.319,0:55:08.339
things but especially coyote hunting and
0:55:06.839,0:55:10.920
setting up stands you're constantly
0:55:08.339,0:55:13.260
moving constantly checking out new areas
0:55:10.920,0:55:15.240
and if you don't keep track of that
0:55:13.260,0:55:17.400
you're going to be you know not being
0:55:15.240,0:55:20.220
super efficient in the field yep no it's
0:55:17.400,0:55:21.599
that's good stuff my my other two
0:55:20.220,0:55:23.599
questions are going to be a lot easier
0:55:21.599,0:55:25.980
for you
0:55:23.599,0:55:28.440
what's your favorite species of animal
0:55:25.980,0:55:31.380
to hunt Dylan
0:55:28.440,0:55:33.119
oh so for I get this question a lot
0:55:31.380,0:55:36.119
actually and it's uh
0:55:33.119,0:55:38.339
I'm gonna kind of cheat a little bit so
0:55:36.119,0:55:39.780
um with my bow I would say if I'm
0:55:38.339,0:55:41.819
archery hunting it's got to be elk in
0:55:39.780,0:55:43.859
September it's just yeah it's one of
0:55:41.819,0:55:48.059
those things that's it's tough to beat
0:55:43.859,0:55:49.020
um and then rifle I would say mule deer
0:55:48.059,0:55:51.720
um awesome
0:55:49.020,0:55:53.940
I don't discriminate I usually meal dear
0:55:51.720,0:55:55.380
hunt until I see a big white tail one a
0:55:53.940,0:55:57.720
white tail that gets me excited and then
0:55:55.380,0:55:59.339
it turns into a whitetail hunt but right
0:55:57.720,0:56:01.380
um I would say mule deer with a rifle
0:55:59.339,0:56:03.839
and then you know of course winter
0:56:01.380,0:56:06.720
anytime in the winter it's you know
0:56:03.839,0:56:08.880
calling coyotes is is definitely so I'm
0:56:06.720,0:56:11.760
gonna cheat there and say three answers
0:56:08.880,0:56:13.980
um based on seasonality but uh what
0:56:11.760,0:56:15.599
you're saying is you you're not a you're
0:56:13.980,0:56:16.980
not a ill cone or you're not a coyote
0:56:15.599,0:56:19.460
Hunter you're not a deer hunter you're a
0:56:16.980,0:56:25.140
you're a runner is what you are yeah
0:56:19.460,0:56:28.980
exactly I uh it yes 100 you know
0:56:25.140,0:56:30.720
Springtime fairs all hunt turkeys all
0:56:28.980,0:56:33.599
you know I'll go duck hunting and I'm
0:56:30.720,0:56:35.940
invited all all sorts of stuff it's uh
0:56:33.599,0:56:38.460
it's all fun it's all good stuff awesome
0:56:35.940,0:56:40.680
well watch your uh watch your favorite
0:56:38.460,0:56:42.300
stump your favorite state to do all this
0:56:40.680,0:56:43.859
hunting in what's your favorite state to
0:56:42.300,0:56:46.859
to hunt
0:56:43.859,0:56:48.660
yeah I gotta say Montana it's uh kind of
0:56:46.859,0:56:50.520
a cop-out because I was born and raised
0:56:48.660,0:56:52.920
here but there's so much opportunity
0:56:50.520,0:56:53.640
yeah there's so much opportunity here I
0:56:52.920,0:56:56.339
mean
0:56:53.640,0:56:58.859
I bet there's from mountain lion to Bear
0:56:56.339,0:57:00.900
to Turkey to deer elk I mean we've got
0:56:58.859,0:57:04.559
mushy goat if you get lucky and draw
0:57:00.900,0:57:07.260
tons of coyotes tons of predators
0:57:04.559,0:57:09.000
um Upland waterfowl all like months
0:57:07.260,0:57:11.220
there's just so much opportunity here
0:57:09.000,0:57:13.619
and really there's a season for
0:57:11.220,0:57:14.760
something like something like 10 months
0:57:13.619,0:57:16.859
out of the year
0:57:14.760,0:57:18.780
um you know if you're really looking at
0:57:16.859,0:57:21.240
it between wolves and all sorts of stuff
0:57:18.780,0:57:22.980
so I gotta say Montana
0:57:21.240,0:57:25.260
um I've had the the pleasure to hunt a
0:57:22.980,0:57:27.720
few other states I went to Colorado last
0:57:25.260,0:57:29.880
year on a a mule deer hunt and that was
0:57:27.720,0:57:31.740
pretty dang incredible
0:57:29.880,0:57:33.900
um some really really nice bucks down
0:57:31.740,0:57:36.240
there amazing country you know I've
0:57:33.900,0:57:37.619
hunted Washington for Bears Idaho for
0:57:36.240,0:57:39.359
Bears
0:57:37.619,0:57:41.760
um then in Oregon a little bit got an
0:57:39.359,0:57:44.400
elk on Oregon this year so I've had the
0:57:41.760,0:57:47.280
pleasure of hunting a few other states
0:57:44.400,0:57:50.280
um but Montana is always going to be
0:57:47.280,0:57:51.780
pretty close to the heart oh yeah I love
0:57:50.280,0:57:53.400
it when I ask that question and people
0:57:51.780,0:57:55.740
say they're home state I always thought
0:57:53.400,0:57:59.040
it was odd one somebody will answer it
0:57:55.740,0:58:01.440
was like man I hate my state my favorite
0:57:59.040,0:58:02.940
state is such and so and they'll go on
0:58:01.440,0:58:06.720
but I'm like
0:58:02.940,0:58:09.540
they sound like you need to move 100 if
0:58:06.720,0:58:11.220
uh if my answer had been another state I
0:58:09.540,0:58:14.460
should be moving to that state because
0:58:11.220,0:58:16.380
you know I understand jobs and sometimes
0:58:14.460,0:58:19.140
you can't and it's not that easy but uh
0:58:16.380,0:58:21.000
right yeah there's always stuff arises
0:58:19.140,0:58:23.160
you know family and stuff like that but
0:58:21.000,0:58:25.800
like like if you've got like five states
0:58:23.160,0:58:27.960
that you hold over your own home state
0:58:25.800,0:58:29.520
like you you know I've you know get
0:58:27.960,0:58:31.140
around a lot of people says oh yeah I'd
0:58:29.520,0:58:32.640
rather hunt to estate but I tell you
0:58:31.140,0:58:34.619
what my home state is a close second
0:58:32.640,0:58:36.119
that's different but when you get these
0:58:34.619,0:58:38.520
guys like man I'd rather hunt Anywhere
0:58:36.119,0:58:39.380
But Here you need to do something
0:58:38.520,0:58:42.240
different
0:58:39.380,0:58:43.619
yeah they're spending a lot of money you
0:58:42.240,0:58:45.180
know if they're hunting a big game
0:58:43.619,0:58:46.799
they're spending a lot of money on us
0:58:45.180,0:58:50.160
out of state tags it's crazy like
0:58:46.799,0:58:52.020
Montana I can get a uh and by no means
0:58:50.160,0:58:55.260
I'm not advocating for moving to Montana
0:58:52.020,0:58:58.500
it's uh it's horrible there's no game
0:58:55.260,0:59:00.599
it's it's freezing cold and super hot
0:58:58.500,0:59:01.760
it's not good so don't move super windy
0:59:00.599,0:59:05.640
all the time
0:59:01.760,0:59:08.099
you know Montana I can get an Elk elk
0:59:05.640,0:59:10.200
tag deer tag Bear Tag turkey all my
0:59:08.099,0:59:12.480
fishing conservation
0:59:10.200,0:59:14.760
um Upland everything for like a hundred
0:59:12.480,0:59:15.420
and ten dollars or something yeah
0:59:14.760,0:59:17.819
um
0:59:15.420,0:59:19.500
out of Staters coming here to hunt elk
0:59:17.819,0:59:22.500
and deer are paying over a thousand
0:59:19.500,0:59:24.480
bucks just for that so yeah it's uh yeah
0:59:22.500,0:59:27.119
it's it's pretty crazy how much it is
0:59:24.480,0:59:28.799
yeah that's pretty wild well Dylan I
0:59:27.119,0:59:30.720
appreciate you coming on with us you you
0:59:28.799,0:59:32.579
want to got anything you want to say to
0:59:30.720,0:59:34.980
close this out or anything
0:59:32.579,0:59:37.200
no no I really appreciate the uh the
0:59:34.980,0:59:39.599
conversation always good catching up and
0:59:37.200,0:59:41.579
uh chatting with you guys and yeah I've
0:59:39.599,0:59:44.760
got the edge now to go get out and call
0:59:41.579,0:59:47.760
I last week was uh picking up some deer
0:59:44.760,0:59:49.260
horns and of course when when you don't
0:59:47.760,0:59:50.819
have a rifle or when you're not calling
0:59:49.260,0:59:52.500
or whatever
0:59:50.819,0:59:54.540
um two coyotes were just standing there
0:59:52.500,0:59:56.339
staring at me at like 60 yards and one
0:59:54.540,1:00:00.180
of them even barked at me and I was like
0:59:56.339,1:00:01.799
you asking for it yep exactly it was
1:00:00.180,1:00:04.140
like any other time
1:00:01.799,1:00:06.000
um but yeah no I'm excited to get out
1:00:04.140,1:00:09.480
and uh do some predator hunting whether
1:00:06.000,1:00:11.040
it be coyotes or maybe find a a
1:00:09.480,1:00:12.900
Blackberry to call in real close or
1:00:11.040,1:00:15.240
something like that but no I I
1:00:12.900,1:00:17.460
appreciate the conversation and uh
1:00:15.240,1:00:18.660
hopefully it was a good one well good
1:00:17.460,1:00:20.339
luck to you when you get out there get
1:00:18.660,1:00:22.020
to Colin coyotes like I said we
1:00:20.339,1:00:23.880
appreciate having you on we hope
1:00:22.020,1:00:25.200
everyone enjoyed this episode we hope
1:00:23.880,1:00:27.920
you join us again right here on the
1:00:25.200,1:00:27.920
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