Torry Cook of MFK Game Calls discusses coyote vocals and his experiences raising coyotes.
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welcome to the foxpro podcast
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brought to you by foxpro gamecalls
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hello everyone welcome back to the
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foxpro podcast we've got a great episode
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here for you guys with a very special
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guest we have torrey cook on the line of
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mfk game calls how's it going tori
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oh man can't complain pretty good i
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reckon it's that time of the year
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a little summer coat killing
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that's right man man tory was just uh
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uh kind of joke around a little bit
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neither one of us has the best phone
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service in the world in the in the
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places we live he's talking about said
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you know it's uh part of being a country
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boy i guess he's had what did you say
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had to drive 10 or 15 minutes up the
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road so you call in for us yeah yeah i'm
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sitting in my truck on a hill about 10
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minutes from my house just so i don't
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lose service and uh i think you said you
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had to go next road over something so
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we're in about the same boat
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yeah a rough life ain't it
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i know it
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have you uh have you been getting in it
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in any coyote hunting here lately
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i've been a little bit uh i hadn't done
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much
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hunting on my own other than the trip i
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did back earlier uh with the tennessee
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boys greg and clint and some of them
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that was a pretty good trip where i was
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actually doing some killing but since
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then i've had people in had some boys in
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from west virginia and
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had spike in and uh yeah joy worse
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headed in so i've been kind of sitting
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on the couch waiting on other people to
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get here and haven't done a lot of
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hunting myself i've been behind the
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camera i need a cameraman especially in
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this ticket hey i saw you as i saw you
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as advertising for one
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boy i had a bunch of applications but i
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hadn't found what i'm looking for so if
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you know somebody send them this way
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i hear you but uh sounds like you've had
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some pretty good companies of course we
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know uh oh tim spike davis pretty well
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he's a good friend of mine and good
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friend of fox pros and uh tell you what
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and the west virginia boys that casey
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wood
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right casey wood kyle smith they came
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down and hunted yeah and we had some
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really good hunts i mean we called in
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a lot of coyotes uh coyotes were calling
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really good of course you and i were
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talking about it before we you know went
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live
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uh the coyote vocals that's where it's
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at i mean they were rolling in heavy on
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the vocals and we had some pretty good
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hunts we didn't we didn't kill as many
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coats as we should have killed but right
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that's part of it i'll let them tell
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that story
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i hear you and then you say he was
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hanging out with the tennessee crew old
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clint holton and greg gallagher him's
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two great guys i've actually hunted with
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him myself before man great hospitality
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showed me some coyotes and really took
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good care of me i know you all had a
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good time
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oh that's always a that's a killer trip
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every time i go out there it's one of
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the few trips that i plan on making you
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know year after year we always
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call a bunch of coats kill a bunch of
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coats and just have a good time that's
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why that's one thing with them boys even
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if you don't get into coyotes at least
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you have some good company
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it's hard to beat them
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well i think most everyone that's going
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to be listening on this podcast knows
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about torrey cook and emf game calls
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tori is a world champion caller
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excellent coyote hunter and quite
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frankly a excellent all-around hunter i
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always look forward to looking at your
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pictures and pose tour you know you're
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always in the big bucks killing a bear
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or two everyone's fall seems right it
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seemed like y'all y'all really got it
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going on down there but tori you care to
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tell us a little bit more about yourself
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well like you said i mean just hunting
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and fishing that's what i do and uh of
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course i'm married to my wife by the
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same name tori lynn cook
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a lot of times
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yeah and and i always i always try to
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mention her because i'm always in the
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spotlight and she does so much behind
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the scenes with
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recording just the whole the whole deal
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but we live in a little small
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just 17 miles from the nearest town
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little hole in the wall
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called johnsville arkansas and
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that's what we do we just we pull with
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those couch record sounds
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try to uh
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try to keep some good stuff out there
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you know for everybody to uh
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to put to use and and hopefully it helps
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them kill a lot of coyotes too
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we got three kids got a new grandbaby so
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uh just good all the way around yeah
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just out there living life
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man king can't complain i've been been
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very blessed well tory we really tori
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and tori we appreciate what you guys do
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for the predator hunting community and
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uh
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you know tori we're extremely excited
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you know here at foxpro about the mfk
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and foxpro partnership and i can't say
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enough about the sounds that you guys
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have recorded they are absolutely out of
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this world
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you know i started mixing in the mfk
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sounds into my sets earlier this year
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and immediately saw
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awesome results and i have to say the
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big stand out to me is the coyote vocals
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and that's mainly what i'd like to talk
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about on this episode tori and uh i
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guess first things first let's talk
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about the coyotes themselves uh that
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these sounds have came from
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yeah they're actually several of them
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there are several new codes
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the coyote sounds that will be coming
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out that a lot of people hadn't heard
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about yet
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i think i had recorded raised and
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recorded
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17
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different coats and
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as of right now most of you are familiar
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with the very first ones of course that
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was
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uh boone smack roo jiggy
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uh and then we had bam boozy little b
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stanky and then i've got some coyotes
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that most people have not heard about
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yet
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um
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juice shortcake uh
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dempsey
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there's several of them um
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i've got one i call flip flop that's uh
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she's a [ __ ] coat born to form but
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she's producing some really good sounds
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i've got one called fireball
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that is a standout howler going to be
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some good stuff coming
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from that little coyote got another one
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called big girl
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just hoodlums little heating there's so
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many sounds that
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i mean we just we're testing those
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sounds right now a lot of them and they
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are killer every time that i
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you know
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get a new batch of coyotes i'm always
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trying new stuff
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and uh
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usually along the way get some get some
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standout sounds well i tell you what you
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uh
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pretty interesting names for some of
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them coyotes y'all definitely have a
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knack for for naming them
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well we usually you know people ask me
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about the names and a lot of times
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that's something else i learned after
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raising coyotes is how individual they
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are in their their personalities for
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example right now
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dempsey
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he's the they form a pecking order
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dempsey is the he's the champ he's the
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big male pup he's the heavyweight champ
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so the dempsey name come from of course
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the boxing side of it and flip-flopped i
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mentioned as a [ __ ] cow we noticed
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that she was deformed as they started
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walking around getting up on their feet
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this coyote would flip-flop but back and
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forth she was kind of knock-kneed in the
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back yeah
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and that that's so that's how she got
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her name flip flop usually their name
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you know kind of little heathen is is
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just that he's kind of a mean
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he was the smallest runt pup at the time
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now he's actually caught up and is
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probably the biggest punch he just
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hasn't figured out that he's that big
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yet or he'd probably whoop dempsey but
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you know just
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the names kind of come about i've got
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another one called boujee of course i
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don't use that word but the kids you
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know we got kids and they come around it
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almost backfired because i think most
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people
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call it boogie and stuff like that but
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the kids were coming in and boozy got
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her name
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yeah that she got her name from just
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some of this kid slang type stuff
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and uh so that that
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that sounds
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name where you see
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b-o-u-g-i-e that's actually
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i think
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yeah i think i've called it boogie pup
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too so i guess i'm guilty of that
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either way either way as long as people
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boogie bougie whatever right right
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and she that that particular coyote
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she's got some some of my favorite house
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but you know with i get a lot of
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standout stuff from different coach
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different personalities uh some of them
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excel
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at some of the social interaction type
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sounds and they're not that great at
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howling and you have other ones that
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have just really unique
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long howls and so usually you get you
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know you get something pretty good just
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from the different personality types of
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all the different codes neat deal right
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right well i tell you what tori one cool
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thing about having all those coyotes
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that you've got there i can't imagine
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what all you have learned from these
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coyotes just watching them interact uh
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watching how they interact with each
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other how they interact with the calls
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when you're all doing stuff
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just reading their body language with
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stuff i think that can make somebody
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such a i mean there's so much knowledge
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right there to be gained by watching
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those coyotes i'm sure you've picked up
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on some
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cool little tidbits from these from
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raising these coyotes
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i really think i've learned more in the
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last three to four years raising and
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watching the couch
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then i have all my years hunting
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combined and i get to take that stuff
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you know to the woods
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and apply it
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and it's helped me kill a lot of coats
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there are some things that
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i believed about codes that i'd read
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about
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and
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i have completely changed my mind on
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some of that stuff
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i didn't believe that coyotes educated
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very quick right that's one thing they
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showed me
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right off the bat is how quick they
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educate to certain things it doesn't
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take much at all pretty much any
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anything they take is a positive or a
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negative
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and
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they remember it
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it is amazing how how quick
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the coyotes pick up on stuff
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and something else is they recognize
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each other's house
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and so when you know that very easily
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just like us recognizing you know other
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people's voice and stuff like that
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that's something else that i didn't
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realize was
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such a big deal
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and when
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we go out there and howl
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it actually simplifies things a lot
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because we're just a strange couch to
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them they don't really care about the
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age the sex
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or anything like that of the house
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that they hear it's just a strange coat
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and i picked up on that
0:10:52.560,0:10:57.360
you know watching these goats
0:10:54.959,0:10:59.680
and we let these cows run free range so
0:10:57.360,0:11:01.920
i get to see true
0:10:59.680,0:11:05.279
interaction between them just like you
0:11:01.920,0:11:06.880
would you know in a in a wild scenario
0:11:05.279,0:11:08.880
they're just the only difference is
0:11:06.880,0:11:11.040
they're comfortable with me being close
0:11:08.880,0:11:14.399
and watching right and
0:11:11.040,0:11:15.760
you know something else
0:11:14.399,0:11:17.200
that
0:11:15.760,0:11:20.320
is huge
0:11:17.200,0:11:22.399
i can sit back and watch those goats
0:11:20.320,0:11:23.760
be with the goats while i'm testing them
0:11:22.399,0:11:26.959
with sounds
0:11:23.760,0:11:28.880
and you can turn that call on you know
0:11:26.959,0:11:30.640
they don't know the calls there right
0:11:28.880,0:11:32.399
i've got to remote with me but i'm with
0:11:30.640,0:11:34.160
the coach so it gives you a completely
0:11:32.399,0:11:36.880
different perspective instead of sitting
0:11:34.160,0:11:39.040
behind the call calling to the coach i'm
0:11:36.880,0:11:40.320
with the coach watching how they react
0:11:39.040,0:11:41.519
to a sound
0:11:40.320,0:11:42.720
and
0:11:41.519,0:11:44.800
it's
0:11:42.720,0:11:47.040
it's changed how i call
0:11:44.800,0:11:48.720
uh i know you do this a lot too
0:11:47.040,0:11:51.120
but i don't run a sound very long
0:11:48.720,0:11:53.360
anymore when i'm testing these coats and
0:11:51.120,0:11:55.600
i'm playing different sounds yeah
0:11:53.360,0:11:56.959
when you swap sounds they trigger if
0:11:55.600,0:11:59.839
they're going to trigger on it it's
0:11:56.959,0:12:02.240
usually pretty quick right and
0:11:59.839,0:12:03.920
so you know that's that's a pretty good
0:12:02.240,0:12:05.680
tip don't sit there and burn their ears
0:12:03.920,0:12:07.279
with the same sound over and over go
0:12:05.680,0:12:09.600
ahead and swap i don't even if it's the
0:12:07.279,0:12:11.839
same category like if you're playing pup
0:12:09.600,0:12:14.079
distress swap to another pup distress
0:12:11.839,0:12:15.920
and play it for a minute or two and swap
0:12:14.079,0:12:17.839
to another one you'll trigger coyotes
0:12:15.920,0:12:20.320
that way i don't i don't know what it is
0:12:17.839,0:12:22.320
or just something about the sequence
0:12:20.320,0:12:24.800
the pitch something about those
0:12:22.320,0:12:26.800
change-ups and then going from a pup
0:12:24.800,0:12:29.040
distress to a pup fight to an adult you
0:12:26.800,0:12:31.360
know just those change-ups
0:12:29.040,0:12:33.519
can make the difference in triggering a
0:12:31.360,0:12:35.839
coyote or that coat being in here in
0:12:33.519,0:12:37.519
distance and you're not killing it i
0:12:35.839,0:12:39.360
tell you what that's
0:12:37.519,0:12:40.720
i'm sure i'm not the only one that's
0:12:39.360,0:12:42.959
wondered this but you know i've been on
0:12:40.720,0:12:44.560
coyote stands and and and you know
0:12:42.959,0:12:47.200
you've got coyotes in there you know
0:12:44.560,0:12:48.880
they're up on this big hillside or or
0:12:47.200,0:12:50.959
down in a thicket or whatever it is
0:12:48.880,0:12:53.200
creek bottom and you know the coyotes
0:12:50.959,0:12:54.720
are there you're playing sounds
0:12:53.200,0:12:57.040
switching through sounds and you're
0:12:54.720,0:12:58.480
sitting there thinking you know i know
0:12:57.040,0:13:01.040
coyotes down in there but wonder how
0:12:58.480,0:13:02.720
he's actually reacting is this is this
0:13:01.040,0:13:04.000
does this interesting or is this
0:13:02.720,0:13:06.160
bothering him or he's going the other
0:13:04.000,0:13:07.920
way is that coyote coming
0:13:06.160,0:13:09.200
so i think it's really cool that you've
0:13:07.920,0:13:11.600
had a chance to sit here and just
0:13:09.200,0:13:13.600
monitor these coyotes and
0:13:11.600,0:13:16.320
see how they respond
0:13:13.600,0:13:18.000
positively and negatively and everything
0:13:16.320,0:13:19.279
in between to all these different types
0:13:18.000,0:13:21.680
of sounds
0:13:19.279,0:13:23.680
right uh something else and this will
0:13:21.680,0:13:25.360
relate to the hunting
0:13:23.680,0:13:27.120
early on when i would test them with
0:13:25.360,0:13:29.279
sounds i would let those coyotes go all
0:13:27.120,0:13:31.440
the way in you know run over that call
0:13:29.279,0:13:33.360
circle that call smell it and they would
0:13:31.440,0:13:36.959
figure out pretty quick all right this
0:13:33.360,0:13:38.639
sound we hear this sound we figured out
0:13:36.959,0:13:40.160
you know it's bogus or whatever they're
0:13:38.639,0:13:42.720
thinking i don't know exactly what a
0:13:40.160,0:13:44.160
coyote's thinking but they figure out
0:13:42.720,0:13:46.320
you know it's not what they thought it
0:13:44.160,0:13:47.680
was right well when you go back and play
0:13:46.320,0:13:48.480
that sound i don't care how long you
0:13:47.680,0:13:50.720
wait
0:13:48.480,0:13:52.000
you know i can wait two three days i can
0:13:50.720,0:13:53.839
wait two or three weeks go down there
0:13:52.000,0:13:56.240
and hit them with that sound again and
0:13:53.839,0:13:59.360
it does not trigger them the same way
0:13:56.240,0:14:02.399
they get they they quickly know
0:13:59.360,0:14:04.560
that that's a bogus sound but something
0:14:02.399,0:14:06.000
else i picked up on when i'm testing
0:14:04.560,0:14:07.040
them with new sounds
0:14:06.000,0:14:08.880
if i
0:14:07.040,0:14:10.880
play a sound they hadn't heard and it
0:14:08.880,0:14:13.360
triggers them as soon as i see them
0:14:10.880,0:14:15.360
trigger and react positive to that sound
0:14:13.360,0:14:18.160
i kill that sound and i don't let those
0:14:15.360,0:14:20.399
goats go down there and you know seek it
0:14:18.160,0:14:22.560
out and figure everything out and i can
0:14:20.399,0:14:25.440
continue to trigger that those same
0:14:22.560,0:14:27.199
coyotes over and over and over again
0:14:25.440,0:14:28.880
you know day after day
0:14:27.199,0:14:31.519
they never as long as i don't let them
0:14:28.880,0:14:33.440
figure it out i can continue to trigger
0:14:31.519,0:14:35.760
those coyotes with you know with that
0:14:33.440,0:14:38.160
same sound and if i do let them figure
0:14:35.760,0:14:40.079
it out they shut down on it and i think
0:14:38.160,0:14:41.040
that's something i apply that to my
0:14:40.079,0:14:44.720
hunting
0:14:41.040,0:14:47.199
a lot now you know i just i i try to
0:14:44.720,0:14:48.800
stay away from it you know how it is you
0:14:47.199,0:14:50.720
get favorite sounds right it's just
0:14:48.800,0:14:52.480
really long and i do i've already you
0:14:50.720,0:14:54.480
know that's how i've kind of lived my
0:14:52.480,0:14:56.000
whole coyote hunting careers i grabbed
0:14:54.480,0:14:57.519
my favorites and i sure burned them up
0:14:56.000,0:14:59.440
till they quit working
0:14:57.519,0:15:01.120
yeah yeah and it's one of those deals
0:14:59.440,0:15:02.480
where i think it's still good to play
0:15:01.120,0:15:04.320
those favorites
0:15:02.480,0:15:06.079
but if he hadn't shown up pretty quick i
0:15:04.320,0:15:08.000
mean you know how much ground a coyote
0:15:06.079,0:15:08.800
will cover when they trigger
0:15:08.000,0:15:11.440
so
0:15:08.800,0:15:13.440
i think you know if you if you give him
0:15:11.440,0:15:16.399
a little bit and he hasn't shown up go
0:15:13.440,0:15:18.399
ahead and swap to another sound and
0:15:16.399,0:15:20.320
that way you don't burn up those
0:15:18.399,0:15:22.000
favorites in some of those spots that
0:15:20.320,0:15:24.240
you may you know
0:15:22.000,0:15:26.720
hunt numerous times you know your local
0:15:24.240,0:15:29.519
ground that type stuff right so i guess
0:15:26.720,0:15:31.680
that's pretty much a testament not to
0:15:29.519,0:15:33.839
overrun your sounds and plus i guess on
0:15:31.680,0:15:37.199
the other side of it it shows that you
0:15:33.839,0:15:40.720
can never have too many sounds
0:15:37.199,0:15:42.399
exactly i mean to our ear i know that a
0:15:40.720,0:15:44.480
lot of the pup distresses you almost
0:15:42.399,0:15:46.880
can't distinguish one from the next a
0:15:44.480,0:15:48.000
lot of times but the coyotes can it'll
0:15:46.880,0:15:50.959
just be a
0:15:48.000,0:15:53.120
and i wish i could put my finger on
0:15:50.959,0:15:55.680
this is what they're actually triggering
0:15:53.120,0:15:57.440
on in that specific sound right because
0:15:55.680,0:15:59.600
then you could it would help you you
0:15:57.440,0:16:03.040
know with other sounds but
0:15:59.600,0:16:05.360
they're just certain things i mean that
0:16:03.040,0:16:08.560
that trigger them and another sound that
0:16:05.360,0:16:10.399
sounds very similar to us won't work as
0:16:08.560,0:16:13.600
good right so swapping through those
0:16:10.399,0:16:15.680
sounds you know helps you to find those
0:16:13.600,0:16:17.600
those good sounds that they do trigger
0:16:15.680,0:16:19.759
them well i've actually i've actually
0:16:17.600,0:16:21.519
experienced that a little bit this past
0:16:19.759,0:16:23.120
week when we were in kansas and i'm
0:16:21.519,0:16:25.199
going to save this towards the end of
0:16:23.120,0:16:27.199
the podcast uh when we start talking
0:16:25.199,0:16:29.120
about a a
0:16:27.199,0:16:30.480
a different set of sounds but let's go
0:16:29.120,0:16:32.639
ahead and start talking about some of
0:16:30.480,0:16:34.000
these sounds tori let's talk about the
0:16:32.639,0:16:35.920
mfk
0:16:34.000,0:16:38.079
denning sounds tell us a little bit
0:16:35.920,0:16:41.120
about them
0:16:38.079,0:16:43.360
well the denon sounds are i mean that is
0:16:41.120,0:16:46.800
exactly what they are i recorded those
0:16:43.360,0:16:47.920
sounds when those pups are you know
0:16:46.800,0:16:50.959
newborns
0:16:47.920,0:16:53.519
and then i just work those sounds
0:16:50.959,0:16:56.000
on up you know until they they come out
0:16:53.519,0:16:58.800
of the den and of course that kind of
0:16:56.000,0:17:00.399
overlaps with the puppeteering stuff but
0:16:58.800,0:17:04.000
you know i start out with any of the
0:17:00.399,0:17:05.919
sounds like got milk uh birthday pups
0:17:04.000,0:17:07.439
those little bitty
0:17:05.919,0:17:10.000
in the den
0:17:07.439,0:17:12.079
newborn eyes are still closed pups those
0:17:10.000,0:17:14.000
are gonna be your whimpers and a lot of
0:17:12.079,0:17:16.240
times they're not even they're not
0:17:14.000,0:17:18.799
distressed sounds they are
0:17:16.240,0:17:20.400
hungry pups and pups that are just in
0:17:18.799,0:17:22.959
there whining and making noise in the
0:17:20.400,0:17:25.520
den so it's a it's a very subtle
0:17:22.959,0:17:28.000
way to start out a stand that will a lot
0:17:25.520,0:17:31.200
of times be referred to as pulp distress
0:17:28.000,0:17:34.160
but it's really just a denon sound that
0:17:31.200,0:17:34.960
relates right to the instinctive nature
0:17:34.160,0:17:37.440
of
0:17:34.960,0:17:39.919
you know of those adult coyotes in in
0:17:37.440,0:17:41.840
particular that adult female
0:17:39.919,0:17:43.679
but so those sounds are really good to
0:17:41.840,0:17:45.440
start with and then i just you know go
0:17:43.679,0:17:48.160
right on through anybody that's familiar
0:17:45.440,0:17:50.559
with our library sees the one week two
0:17:48.160,0:17:52.400
week three week four week progression
0:17:50.559,0:17:54.480
and then i start gapping it out as they
0:17:52.400,0:17:56.400
get you know a little a little bigger
0:17:54.480,0:17:59.440
i'll gap you know two or three weeks
0:17:56.400,0:18:01.600
there but and that's another good thing
0:17:59.440,0:18:04.240
that i figured out uh
0:18:01.600,0:18:07.039
early on you know run those different
0:18:04.240,0:18:09.120
age classes of pups and their voice
0:18:07.039,0:18:10.880
changes you know as they age you'll
0:18:09.120,0:18:13.200
you'll hear the rasp and the pitch of
0:18:10.880,0:18:16.320
their voice change and
0:18:13.200,0:18:17.200
those and the cadence will change
0:18:16.320,0:18:18.799
and
0:18:17.200,0:18:21.039
those
0:18:18.799,0:18:23.919
those different change-ups will trigger
0:18:21.039,0:18:25.520
coyotes and those denning sounds those
0:18:23.919,0:18:27.679
denning sounds what's what's really good
0:18:25.520,0:18:29.919
about the den and stuff is you can go
0:18:27.679,0:18:32.240
all the way back as soon as those couch
0:18:29.919,0:18:34.559
pair up even before the pups are in the
0:18:32.240,0:18:36.160
ground those coyotes get into that i
0:18:34.559,0:18:37.600
mean you know from calling them so long
0:18:36.160,0:18:39.760
they get in that
0:18:37.600,0:18:41.360
den in mindset where they're preparing
0:18:39.760,0:18:43.600
dens and even though you don't have pups
0:18:41.360,0:18:46.880
yet you can get into that
0:18:43.600,0:18:48.320
late february march time frame yep all
0:18:46.880,0:18:49.360
the way up until the pups start hitting
0:18:48.320,0:18:50.799
the ground and you can go ahead and
0:18:49.360,0:18:53.120
start running those
0:18:50.799,0:18:55.280
those denon sounds and run them all the
0:18:53.120,0:18:57.600
way of course we all know sounds a call
0:18:55.280,0:19:00.000
year-round but that's your prime time
0:18:57.600,0:19:02.640
right you know and so you know until the
0:19:00.000,0:19:04.559
end of february march on through summer
0:19:02.640,0:19:06.640
those demonstrations they're saying so
0:19:04.559,0:19:08.160
you're saying and i i've actually done
0:19:06.640,0:19:10.320
this a little bit i usually wait till
0:19:08.160,0:19:11.760
till march usually and i don't you know
0:19:10.320,0:19:13.679
it's kind of one of those secret things
0:19:11.760,0:19:15.360
i guess and that's what this these
0:19:13.679,0:19:18.080
podcasts are all about you know this fox
0:19:15.360,0:19:20.000
pro podcast is uh you know and i don't
0:19:18.080,0:19:22.480
think i'm speaking for tori as well on
0:19:20.000,0:19:24.240
this we want you guys to be successful
0:19:22.480,0:19:26.320
and this podcast this is what it's about
0:19:24.240,0:19:28.000
be educational we want you guys to to
0:19:26.320,0:19:30.559
kill more coyotes we want you to be
0:19:28.000,0:19:32.880
successful with our products so uh i
0:19:30.559,0:19:35.440
guess it's one of them secret things
0:19:32.880,0:19:38.480
for years that's when i start my dinning
0:19:35.440,0:19:39.679
season sequences is is in march uh
0:19:38.480,0:19:41.520
probably the second or third week of
0:19:39.679,0:19:42.559
march and and i guess that's a good
0:19:41.520,0:19:44.400
question
0:19:42.559,0:19:46.320
uh toy and i think you pretty much just
0:19:44.400,0:19:47.039
covered it right there i mean when do
0:19:46.320,0:19:48.880
you
0:19:47.039,0:19:50.480
actually start diving into more of your
0:19:48.880,0:19:52.960
dinning season sounds at tail end of
0:19:50.480,0:19:55.520
february like you were just saying
0:19:52.960,0:19:58.000
yeah as soon as those couch pair up and
0:19:55.520,0:20:01.760
are kind of coming out of breeding you
0:19:58.000,0:20:05.039
know so you know typically that
0:20:01.760,0:20:06.640
that mid day basically february until of
0:20:05.039,0:20:08.080
february you know we're getting out of
0:20:06.640,0:20:10.080
the breed and the breeding's tapering
0:20:08.080,0:20:11.360
off and just as soon as that tapers off
0:20:10.080,0:20:12.799
those coyotes even though they hadn't
0:20:11.360,0:20:14.559
had pulp [ __ ]
0:20:12.799,0:20:16.880
their mind switches and it's just
0:20:14.559,0:20:19.120
instinctual they start preparing dens
0:20:16.880,0:20:21.919
digging dens cleaning out old dens
0:20:19.120,0:20:23.360
they've got it on their mind and if you
0:20:21.919,0:20:25.120
know where
0:20:23.360,0:20:26.799
pairs of coats are
0:20:25.120,0:20:27.600
even though they don't have pups yet you
0:20:26.799,0:20:30.000
can
0:20:27.600,0:20:33.039
you can hurt them yeah with those dents
0:20:30.000,0:20:35.600
and poured on them so uh when when do
0:20:33.039,0:20:38.240
you start to transition away
0:20:35.600,0:20:39.600
from the denning type sounds
0:20:38.240,0:20:41.120
so to speak i mean i know you'll
0:20:39.600,0:20:42.880
probably run them a lot all the way
0:20:41.120,0:20:44.480
throughout the year but when you kind of
0:20:42.880,0:20:46.559
start dialing it back on a dinning
0:20:44.480,0:20:49.280
sounds
0:20:46.559,0:20:50.159
usually i mean i'll go
0:20:49.280,0:20:52.640
i'll
0:20:50.159,0:20:54.240
i'll get away from those real little
0:20:52.640,0:20:55.760
denon sounds i might run one for a
0:20:54.240,0:20:57.600
minute or two you know like the birthday
0:20:55.760,0:20:59.760
pups the newborn stuff
0:20:57.600,0:21:01.679
uh i might run those
0:20:59.760,0:21:03.840
later in summer a little bit just for a
0:21:01.679,0:21:06.080
minute or two during the sequence but
0:21:03.840,0:21:08.720
for the most part i start going
0:21:06.080,0:21:09.600
more into the pup distress stuff
0:21:08.720,0:21:11.760
through
0:21:09.600,0:21:13.840
you know this time of the summer and
0:21:11.760,0:21:16.799
i'll run those
0:21:13.840,0:21:19.360
those den and pulp distress sounds
0:21:16.799,0:21:21.360
pretty much all the way up until
0:21:19.360,0:21:24.640
family bust up pop dispersal whatever
0:21:21.360,0:21:27.120
you want to call it um there towards end
0:21:24.640,0:21:28.720
of summer early fall and then you start
0:21:27.120,0:21:32.240
you know jumping over into your prey
0:21:28.720,0:21:34.799
stuff but i run very little prey sounds
0:21:32.240,0:21:36.480
and i know you don't either
0:21:34.799,0:21:39.039
don't run much prey distressed stuff
0:21:36.480,0:21:41.280
until you get into that until after the
0:21:39.039,0:21:44.400
family bust up takes place
0:21:41.280,0:21:47.600
and uh so i'll mix those denim sounds
0:21:44.400,0:21:48.960
in and i typically with just a sequence
0:21:47.600,0:21:51.200
you know i'm going to start with my lone
0:21:48.960,0:21:53.200
house a lot of times i'll answer those
0:21:51.200,0:21:55.840
long house with a pair of group owl i'm
0:21:53.200,0:21:58.320
how heavy this time right here trying to
0:21:55.840,0:22:00.320
get those cows to vocalize and even if
0:21:58.320,0:22:02.720
they don't vocalize they'll show up on
0:22:00.320,0:22:05.760
those howls a lot of times
0:22:02.720,0:22:07.440
and then i usually i'll go from
0:22:05.760,0:22:09.919
those hows
0:22:07.440,0:22:11.440
into so some type of social interaction
0:22:09.919,0:22:12.799
sound and i know before we talked you
0:22:11.440,0:22:14.880
wanted to kind of
0:22:12.799,0:22:17.440
jump into that a little bit
0:22:14.880,0:22:18.880
and the reason i go from the house into
0:22:17.440,0:22:20.799
the social interaction and that's
0:22:18.880,0:22:22.159
something that i didn't even recognize
0:22:20.799,0:22:24.400
until i started
0:22:22.159,0:22:27.360
raising these coyotes when these cows
0:22:24.400,0:22:28.960
are busted up and they howl and they
0:22:27.360,0:22:30.559
come back together
0:22:28.960,0:22:32.240
there's usually like a meet and greet
0:22:30.559,0:22:34.400
it's a real excited
0:22:32.240,0:22:36.640
pecking order is kind of re-established
0:22:34.400,0:22:39.200
you've got one cup it's almost like a
0:22:36.640,0:22:40.720
wrestling match to where it's not
0:22:39.200,0:22:42.559
serious but they're
0:22:40.720,0:22:44.720
it's a meet and greet reestablish
0:22:42.559,0:22:46.400
pecking order and there's just all kinds
0:22:44.720,0:22:48.159
of little funny sounds you've got your
0:22:46.400,0:22:49.360
submissive cows that are whimpering and
0:22:48.159,0:22:51.360
whining but they're not really in
0:22:49.360,0:22:53.280
distress and you've got your other ones
0:22:51.360,0:22:55.360
that are growling and making all this
0:22:53.280,0:22:58.480
you know i call it you know just jibber
0:22:55.360,0:23:00.799
jabber just count noises right and i
0:22:58.480,0:23:02.320
like to throw those sounds in for just
0:23:00.799,0:23:04.880
you know a couple minutes submissive
0:23:02.320,0:23:07.039
beggars one of my favorites submissive
0:23:04.880,0:23:09.360
tap out
0:23:07.039,0:23:12.640
good stuff if you look at that social
0:23:09.360,0:23:14.799
interaction category any of those sounds
0:23:12.640,0:23:17.440
they're related to that meet and greet
0:23:14.799,0:23:19.200
after howling takes place and y'all
0:23:17.440,0:23:20.960
usually go into that and i don't run
0:23:19.200,0:23:23.679
them long you know two or three minutes
0:23:20.960,0:23:26.240
and then i'll go to those denon sounds
0:23:23.679,0:23:28.960
and my pop distresses and usually i'm
0:23:26.240,0:23:31.280
gonna run through two three four and
0:23:28.960,0:23:33.200
again i'm not running them very long i
0:23:31.280,0:23:34.960
may run you know something in a and i
0:23:33.200,0:23:37.120
don't think it matters the order that
0:23:34.960,0:23:38.640
you play them but just skip around
0:23:37.120,0:23:41.440
through two or three of those you know
0:23:38.640,0:23:44.480
denim sounds distress sounds then i'll
0:23:41.440,0:23:46.159
usually go right into the pup fights
0:23:44.480,0:23:49.039
and then from the pup fights i'll go
0:23:46.159,0:23:51.679
into the you know the sub adult or adult
0:23:49.039,0:23:53.679
fights and that's typically
0:23:51.679,0:23:55.520
a sound sequence
0:23:53.679,0:23:57.679
that i run this time of the year and
0:23:55.520,0:23:59.600
that that pretty well covers it if i do
0:23:57.679,0:24:02.000
anything different
0:23:59.600,0:24:04.400
i might mix spawn distress or something
0:24:02.000,0:24:06.240
like that right and usually i'm doing
0:24:04.400,0:24:07.919
that because i'm trying to pull adult
0:24:06.240,0:24:10.080
coyotes
0:24:07.919,0:24:13.039
away and keep those pups from beating
0:24:10.080,0:24:16.240
the adults to the to the call is usually
0:24:13.039,0:24:18.000
why i'm mixing that in and if i run fond
0:24:16.240,0:24:19.600
distress or some you know some type of
0:24:18.000,0:24:21.919
prey distress
0:24:19.600,0:24:24.000
i usually only run it for you know three
0:24:21.919,0:24:26.559
four minutes tops yeah and then i go
0:24:24.000,0:24:28.400
right back into my vocal stuff well i'm
0:24:26.559,0:24:30.880
glad you brought up transition right
0:24:28.400,0:24:33.120
into the social sounds um
0:24:30.880,0:24:34.720
you know i talked with you a couple
0:24:33.120,0:24:36.320
weeks ago about is there some of these
0:24:34.720,0:24:37.520
sounds that i need to be paying
0:24:36.320,0:24:39.360
attention to
0:24:37.520,0:24:42.720
um you know because guys out there i'm
0:24:39.360,0:24:44.880
i'm still learning the mfk library and
0:24:42.720,0:24:46.559
the sounds i've ran i've been
0:24:44.880,0:24:49.120
man i've seen immediate results from
0:24:46.559,0:24:52.480
them i mean really good uh
0:24:49.120,0:24:54.960
call-in dynamic style type call-ins
0:24:52.480,0:24:56.880
hard-charging coyotes seeing coyotes
0:24:54.960,0:25:00.480
enter you know come to the call in ways
0:24:56.880,0:25:02.159
that i haven't haven't seen in the past
0:25:00.480,0:25:03.600
and i mentioned you i said you know is
0:25:02.159,0:25:05.840
there any of these sounds that i need to
0:25:03.600,0:25:07.679
be paying more attention to that i
0:25:05.840,0:25:10.240
haven't used you mentioned the social
0:25:07.679,0:25:13.520
sounds you actually mentioned uh uh tap
0:25:10.240,0:25:15.039
out and and submissive beggar um you see
0:25:13.520,0:25:17.200
i said you know try running those after
0:25:15.039,0:25:18.880
your house see what you think and that's
0:25:17.200,0:25:20.240
what i start actually last week first
0:25:18.880,0:25:21.760
time i ran them
0:25:20.240,0:25:24.159
we were out in kansas hunting with my
0:25:21.760,0:25:27.039
good friend jeff ryder i'd run a set of
0:25:24.159,0:25:29.200
howls wait just a minute or two and i'd
0:25:27.039,0:25:31.200
start playing those submissive type
0:25:29.200,0:25:32.720
sounds submissive beggars submissive tap
0:25:31.200,0:25:35.679
outs of two sounds i kept bouncing in
0:25:32.720,0:25:39.279
between um and man
0:25:35.679,0:25:42.640
it it i think it really it really added
0:25:39.279,0:25:45.120
another level to the call sequence
0:25:42.640,0:25:46.320
and i i didn't actually have any coyotes
0:25:45.120,0:25:48.559
actually come
0:25:46.320,0:25:50.400
i didn't have any coyotes show up to it
0:25:48.559,0:25:52.480
but i know it added to the sequence
0:25:50.400,0:25:54.640
because as soon as i would hit i would
0:25:52.480,0:25:57.200
transition from that into a pup distress
0:25:54.640,0:25:59.440
like a seven week stuff eight week stuff
0:25:57.200,0:26:01.520
some of the eleven week stuff and man
0:25:59.440,0:26:02.960
one it wouldn't be a minute and a half
0:26:01.520,0:26:06.000
into the pup distress stuff and there
0:26:02.960,0:26:07.279
was coyotes absolutely flying to the
0:26:06.000,0:26:09.919
call and
0:26:07.279,0:26:11.679
and they were so keyed in on the call
0:26:09.919,0:26:13.279
that they would come in and not even be
0:26:11.679,0:26:14.640
looking around left to right wasn't even
0:26:13.279,0:26:17.520
trying to circle downwind they would
0:26:14.640,0:26:19.360
come straight line right to the call and
0:26:17.520,0:26:20.559
never take their eyes off that little
0:26:19.360,0:26:21.679
area that they thought the sound was
0:26:20.559,0:26:22.559
coming from
0:26:21.679,0:26:24.080
so
0:26:22.559,0:26:25.679
i've been pretty impressed with the
0:26:24.080,0:26:28.080
social sounds
0:26:25.679,0:26:30.159
well and something else i i should have
0:26:28.080,0:26:32.400
mentioned this right off the bat before
0:26:30.159,0:26:35.440
we got started and you did mention you
0:26:32.400,0:26:37.279
know the mfk foxpro partnership
0:26:35.440,0:26:40.159
i can't tell you how many phone calls
0:26:37.279,0:26:43.200
and messages i've had about you know
0:26:40.159,0:26:46.960
why can't i get the mfk sound library on
0:26:43.200,0:26:49.440
another call or stuff like that and so
0:26:46.960,0:26:51.360
i want to tell people why
0:26:49.440,0:26:52.400
we went with foxpro
0:26:51.360,0:26:54.080
and
0:26:52.400,0:26:55.200
you know just kind of a little backstory
0:26:54.080,0:26:57.520
on that
0:26:55.200,0:26:58.799
and why i love being partnered with
0:26:57.520,0:27:01.440
foxpro
0:26:58.799,0:27:03.120
when we record these sounds i'm using
0:27:01.440,0:27:06.240
i've got a lot of money tied up and a
0:27:03.120,0:27:07.840
lot of time in the audio equipment and
0:27:06.240,0:27:10.159
getting these sounds
0:27:07.840,0:27:11.520
and i'm real big on
0:27:10.159,0:27:13.279
putting out and some of those sounds
0:27:11.520,0:27:15.440
like those social interaction sounds
0:27:13.279,0:27:16.240
they're hard to get they're real subtle
0:27:15.440,0:27:17.760
low
0:27:16.240,0:27:20.880
volume sounds
0:27:17.760,0:27:23.200
and the quality of those sounds
0:27:20.880,0:27:24.240
has to be really good
0:27:23.200,0:27:26.399
and
0:27:24.240,0:27:28.720
that's where the foxpro partnership
0:27:26.399,0:27:31.120
comes in and that's why i want my
0:27:28.720,0:27:33.679
library ringing on foxpro i'm trying to
0:27:31.120,0:27:35.360
produce the best sounds
0:27:33.679,0:27:38.159
for everybody out there to use you know
0:27:35.360,0:27:40.000
they get the highest quality stuff and
0:27:38.159,0:27:41.600
with the foxpro
0:27:40.000,0:27:44.320
side of it
0:27:41.600,0:27:47.039
i get the quality that i'm looking for
0:27:44.320,0:27:49.200
out of my sounds by running them through
0:27:47.039,0:27:52.159
the speakers and the i mean just the
0:27:49.200,0:27:56.080
quality of the remotes that tx 1000 the
0:27:52.159,0:27:57.039
x24 the 24 bit sounds you know that type
0:27:56.080,0:27:59.760
stuff
0:27:57.039,0:28:01.520
is huge to me i mean that is a really
0:27:59.760,0:28:03.520
big deal that
0:28:01.520,0:28:06.159
that i can't get
0:28:03.520,0:28:07.840
if i go another route so you know
0:28:06.159,0:28:09.200
sometimes that's that's kind of hard to
0:28:07.840,0:28:11.520
explain to people because they don't
0:28:09.200,0:28:13.679
understand the difference in
0:28:11.520,0:28:14.480
different audio qualities and stuff like
0:28:13.679,0:28:15.279
that
0:28:14.480,0:28:18.480
but
0:28:15.279,0:28:20.559
that's that's why mfk is proud to be
0:28:18.480,0:28:21.520
partnered with foxpro and why those
0:28:20.559,0:28:23.120
sounds
0:28:21.520,0:28:24.559
sound like they do when they're coming
0:28:23.120,0:28:26.080
out of those calls we're able to keep
0:28:24.559,0:28:27.279
that audio quality
0:28:26.080,0:28:28.240
um
0:28:27.279,0:28:30.159
up there
0:28:28.240,0:28:32.399
so uh right and hey we're and we're
0:28:30.159,0:28:34.640
proud to have you it's a it's a
0:28:32.399,0:28:38.399
it's an excellent great partnership
0:28:34.640,0:28:38.399
we're we're really excited about it
0:28:38.960,0:28:43.279
same here let's talk about we so we've
0:28:41.279,0:28:45.279
talked about uh we've talked about the
0:28:43.279,0:28:46.799
dinning sounds we've we've talked a
0:28:45.279,0:28:48.159
little bit about pup distress and we
0:28:46.799,0:28:50.960
just got finished talking about the
0:28:48.159,0:28:53.039
social type sounds uh you know let's
0:28:50.960,0:28:54.320
talk about the thing that usually
0:28:53.039,0:28:56.159
especially this time of year we're
0:28:54.320,0:28:57.520
starting off with let's talk about the
0:28:56.159,0:29:00.399
howls a little bit you know you got a
0:28:57.520,0:29:03.039
great selection of different types of
0:29:00.399,0:29:04.159
howls from a number of coyotes you guys
0:29:03.039,0:29:05.760
just heard him
0:29:04.159,0:29:08.480
rattle off all the names of these
0:29:05.760,0:29:10.840
coyotes he's got pups and adults let's
0:29:08.480,0:29:13.039
talk about the house a little bit
0:29:10.840,0:29:15.360
territory the howls are one of those i
0:29:13.039,0:29:17.679
mean howling that's that's my thing when
0:29:15.360,0:29:20.480
it comes to coyotes i love the howling
0:29:17.679,0:29:22.399
coyotes love to hear coats howl back i
0:29:20.480,0:29:24.960
mean that that's just where it's at and
0:29:22.399,0:29:26.399
the howls in particular i mean i think
0:29:24.960,0:29:28.399
most people that are familiar with the
0:29:26.399,0:29:31.840
library are familiar with the coyote
0:29:28.399,0:29:34.559
named boone and anyhow that has boone in
0:29:31.840,0:29:35.520
the title boon long winehouse
0:29:34.559,0:29:37.840
is
0:29:35.520,0:29:40.399
he's a very unique guy with some waivers
0:29:37.840,0:29:42.480
in his house that's a killer
0:29:40.399,0:29:44.320
killer howl
0:29:42.480,0:29:47.600
both for getting coyotes to
0:29:44.320,0:29:48.880
to answer and to come in and you know
0:29:47.600,0:29:51.440
just
0:29:48.880,0:29:53.200
those type sounds i love to start a
0:29:51.440,0:29:55.120
stand with because
0:29:53.200,0:29:57.360
for one it gives you a pretty good
0:29:55.120,0:30:00.000
chance this time of year especially to
0:29:57.360,0:30:02.000
get a coyote to vocalize and let you
0:30:00.000,0:30:03.919
know where you're at in relation to them
0:30:02.000,0:30:05.840
and then it also works really good for
0:30:03.919,0:30:07.919
going ahead and pulling those coyotes in
0:30:05.840,0:30:10.000
into you
0:30:07.919,0:30:11.840
there are some other howls that that you
0:30:10.000,0:30:14.159
hadn't even got to test out yet that i'm
0:30:11.840,0:30:15.760
excited to get out there get them in
0:30:14.159,0:30:18.320
your hands get them in everybody else's
0:30:15.760,0:30:19.840
hands uh this coyote that i've got
0:30:18.320,0:30:22.880
called juice
0:30:19.840,0:30:24.000
the bougie homesick house
0:30:22.880,0:30:27.760
little b
0:30:24.000,0:30:31.919
there's some howls from those goats that
0:30:27.760,0:30:34.000
i mean when people start using them
0:30:31.919,0:30:36.240
they're going to be excited and they are
0:30:34.000,0:30:36.240
some
0:30:38.320,0:30:40.720
some of those sounds when you rip them
0:30:39.679,0:30:42.960
off you go ahead and just click your
0:30:40.720,0:30:45.840
safety office what you're telling me
0:30:42.960,0:30:47.600
yeah that there's something about
0:30:45.840,0:30:49.279
different house
0:30:47.600,0:30:51.760
and and i'm sure you've picked up on
0:30:49.279,0:30:53.679
this some there's something about just
0:30:51.760,0:30:55.679
like with the pup distresses certain
0:30:53.679,0:30:57.919
howls trigger coyotes for whatever
0:30:55.679,0:31:00.640
reason and there are some of those howls
0:30:57.919,0:31:02.240
like boon long wine house uh some of the
0:31:00.640,0:31:04.960
like sexy little bee
0:31:02.240,0:31:07.840
bougie homesick house juice
0:31:04.960,0:31:10.880
lonely house juicy house
0:31:07.840,0:31:12.799
some of those house when i play them
0:31:10.880,0:31:14.240
i'm ready you know i'm i'm thinking if
0:31:12.799,0:31:15.679
there's a coyote here he's either going
0:31:14.240,0:31:16.480
to answer
0:31:15.679,0:31:18.000
or
0:31:16.480,0:31:20.559
answer and
0:31:18.000,0:31:22.159
yeah yeah yeah i mean they're just and
0:31:20.559,0:31:24.880
then you've got some of the group owls
0:31:22.159,0:31:26.480
and pear house booroo pear house killer
0:31:24.880,0:31:28.799
pairhow
0:31:26.480,0:31:30.799
sister pair that's a new one that uh
0:31:28.799,0:31:32.559
greg gallagher's been smashing them with
0:31:30.799,0:31:34.240
some
0:31:32.559,0:31:36.559
and then you get into some of the group
0:31:34.240,0:31:38.320
house especially this time of year with
0:31:36.559,0:31:40.399
those house we talked earlier i like to
0:31:38.320,0:31:41.840
go from those loan house
0:31:40.399,0:31:44.399
into
0:31:41.840,0:31:46.240
basically family group house to where a
0:31:44.399,0:31:48.240
lot of times i'll mix a pup highly and i
0:31:46.240,0:31:50.240
don't get a lot of vocal response a lot
0:31:48.240,0:31:53.120
of times to a pup pal but they'll come
0:31:50.240,0:31:56.320
into it and i think it sets that stage
0:31:53.120,0:31:58.640
um but like bam pup house uh
0:31:56.320,0:32:00.880
little b whimper house there's several
0:31:58.640,0:32:02.480
of those pup piles that are that are
0:32:00.880,0:32:04.799
really good and some of these piles that
0:32:02.480,0:32:06.640
i just recorded off dempsey flip flop
0:32:04.799,0:32:08.960
little heath and some of those
0:32:06.640,0:32:11.760
i've been wearing them out in these past
0:32:08.960,0:32:14.960
three or four hunts with those sounds
0:32:11.760,0:32:16.640
but combining those adult loan house
0:32:14.960,0:32:18.960
following them with those
0:32:16.640,0:32:21.840
loan pup piles and then going into those
0:32:18.960,0:32:23.120
family group house you know your
0:32:21.840,0:32:25.600
your
0:32:23.120,0:32:27.200
adults with pup the whole family group
0:32:25.600,0:32:29.120
happy family
0:32:27.200,0:32:31.200
is one of them that i really like uh
0:32:29.120,0:32:33.120
happy yappy group is another one and
0:32:31.200,0:32:35.760
then there's a standout group out that's
0:32:33.120,0:32:37.440
not necessarily you know it's an older
0:32:35.760,0:32:39.679
age class group
0:32:37.440,0:32:40.480
but it's called hollerbach group
0:32:39.679,0:32:42.960
and
0:32:40.480,0:32:45.360
i've had couch run that while it's still
0:32:42.960,0:32:46.960
howling full blast couch run the you
0:32:45.360,0:32:49.440
know run the stream
0:32:46.960,0:32:51.679
it's yeah i haven't i haven't had the
0:32:49.440,0:32:53.600
chance to run and when i say i haven't
0:32:51.679,0:32:55.440
had the chance i've got the chance to
0:32:53.600,0:32:56.799
run all that stuff but
0:32:55.440,0:32:59.679
kind of like what we said earlier when i
0:32:56.799,0:33:01.360
get on a group of sounds it's working
0:32:59.679,0:33:03.519
i'm usually sticking with that till it
0:33:01.360,0:33:05.519
quits working if if it makes sense to
0:33:03.519,0:33:08.000
you so i haven't got to run any of the
0:33:05.519,0:33:10.559
group stuff just yet but i did play with
0:33:08.000,0:33:13.360
some of the pup house last weekend and
0:33:10.559,0:33:15.279
saw some really good results from those
0:33:13.360,0:33:17.120
uh we were playing uh
0:33:15.279,0:33:20.000
i think i played a couple of the 11 week
0:33:17.120,0:33:22.960
cows what i was calling boogie which is
0:33:20.000,0:33:25.120
bougie pup sounds like
0:33:22.960,0:33:26.880
and uh and little b i would run those
0:33:25.120,0:33:28.559
two 11 week
0:33:26.880,0:33:30.640
pup sounds a little bit and there was
0:33:28.559,0:33:32.080
one one particular stand this was like
0:33:30.640,0:33:33.600
mid afternoon i'm talking like four
0:33:32.080,0:33:35.519
o'clock in the afternoon
0:33:33.600,0:33:37.760
98 degrees or something like that
0:33:35.519,0:33:39.760
calling this prairie country in uh in
0:33:37.760,0:33:41.760
kansas and i started off with a with a
0:33:39.760,0:33:43.600
bougie pup hal 11 week
0:33:41.760,0:33:46.000
let it run this whole sequence out pause
0:33:43.600,0:33:48.000
for like a minute and then hit uh the
0:33:46.000,0:33:50.880
little b 11 week cow just kind of
0:33:48.000,0:33:52.320
scanning horizon looking listening and
0:33:50.880,0:33:55.039
all of a sudden i look down at the call
0:33:52.320,0:33:58.080
which is like 30 yards from us there's a
0:33:55.039,0:33:59.600
freaking coyote standing right on top of
0:33:58.080,0:34:01.519
the call i think it must have been
0:33:59.600,0:34:03.679
bedded up and just just come right to
0:34:01.519,0:34:05.440
the call just from the pup sounds what
0:34:03.679,0:34:07.760
it looked like was a
0:34:05.440,0:34:09.839
it looked like an old kind of skanky old
0:34:07.760,0:34:11.359
female coyote it's probably pastor prime
0:34:09.839,0:34:14.000
it's probably actually part of a den but
0:34:11.359,0:34:15.919
didn't have pups herself man she was she
0:34:14.000,0:34:17.760
was wild looking of course
0:34:15.919,0:34:19.280
uh it turned into a pretty dynamite
0:34:17.760,0:34:22.000
stand that we're looking forward to
0:34:19.280,0:34:24.720
showing you guys but um
0:34:22.000,0:34:25.919
just i just like i said i cannot say
0:34:24.720,0:34:28.800
enough
0:34:25.919,0:34:31.359
about the quality of these sounds and
0:34:28.800,0:34:34.800
and how these vocals just stand out
0:34:31.359,0:34:37.919
not just your adult stuff
0:34:34.800,0:34:40.079
as far as howls go but these pup house
0:34:37.919,0:34:41.599
it's just such a great selection uh
0:34:40.079,0:34:42.800
that's going to just kill a lot of
0:34:41.599,0:34:45.359
coyotes
0:34:42.800,0:34:48.159
yeah and exactly what you mentioned that
0:34:45.359,0:34:49.919
scenario that you just described that's
0:34:48.159,0:34:52.000
what people should expect from the pup
0:34:49.919,0:34:54.079
house a lot of times i mean they will
0:34:52.000,0:34:55.760
vocalize to them but a lot of times
0:34:54.079,0:34:58.000
those coyotes just come to those pup
0:34:55.760,0:34:59.359
houses yeah they show up on them
0:34:58.000,0:35:01.920
and
0:34:59.359,0:35:04.800
yeah it's good stuff and just so people
0:35:01.920,0:35:07.520
know how everything is recorded
0:35:04.800,0:35:10.400
when when my wife and i start raising
0:35:07.520,0:35:12.320
these couch we start pretty much day one
0:35:10.400,0:35:14.000
and we start recording them and we try
0:35:12.320,0:35:16.960
to record
0:35:14.000,0:35:19.920
both audio and video of course my audio
0:35:16.960,0:35:21.520
equipment is specific for the audio and
0:35:19.920,0:35:23.839
i do the video stuff separate but we're
0:35:21.520,0:35:27.280
trying to document both with video and
0:35:23.839,0:35:29.040
audio pretty much the entire life cycle
0:35:27.280,0:35:30.560
of these coach so we're recording them
0:35:29.040,0:35:32.400
from day one
0:35:30.560,0:35:34.400
all the way up through
0:35:32.400,0:35:37.280
you know and still going you know i'm
0:35:34.400,0:35:40.160
still recording those oldest codes
0:35:37.280,0:35:41.599
and just so what you get
0:35:40.160,0:35:43.520
in the library
0:35:41.599,0:35:45.680
is a full selection
0:35:43.520,0:35:47.440
of multiple coyotes with different
0:35:45.680,0:35:49.359
personalities
0:35:47.440,0:35:51.680
from day one
0:35:49.359,0:35:52.800
throughout the rest of their life and
0:35:51.680,0:35:55.599
just uh
0:35:52.800,0:35:56.560
you know the assortment of sounds
0:35:55.599,0:36:00.079
is
0:35:56.560,0:36:02.079
i mean it's it's been a huge undertaking
0:36:00.079,0:36:04.800
but something i'm extremely proud of and
0:36:02.079,0:36:06.160
nothing beats seeing other people get
0:36:04.800,0:36:07.520
these sounds like you mentioned i mean
0:36:06.160,0:36:09.920
you want to see people
0:36:07.520,0:36:11.359
be successful and that's that's probably
0:36:09.920,0:36:13.119
the
0:36:11.359,0:36:15.040
the most rewarding part of this whole
0:36:13.119,0:36:16.560
deal is when you
0:36:15.040,0:36:18.640
get these sounds together and then other
0:36:16.560,0:36:20.640
people take them out and you see these
0:36:18.640,0:36:22.800
sounds work not only for you but work
0:36:20.640,0:36:24.720
for other people all across the country
0:36:22.800,0:36:26.960
yeah i mean that's that's cool stuff is
0:36:24.720,0:36:28.960
just straight up cool
0:36:26.960,0:36:30.880
yeah
0:36:28.960,0:36:32.800
well let's uh let's move right along we
0:36:30.880,0:36:34.720
talk you know we've talked about several
0:36:32.800,0:36:35.920
different coyote vocalizations here and
0:36:34.720,0:36:37.520
then
0:36:35.920,0:36:38.960
we've got one left i was wanting to talk
0:36:37.520,0:36:41.440
about it's kind of one of those
0:36:38.960,0:36:43.520
categories that uh
0:36:41.440,0:36:45.440
no matter how long i went into my call
0:36:43.520,0:36:46.960
sequence when i come up on this these
0:36:45.440,0:36:49.359
type of sounds
0:36:46.960,0:36:51.119
it seems like my heart rate
0:36:49.359,0:36:53.359
starts to go up because i'm just
0:36:51.119,0:36:55.920
expecting you know something to respond
0:36:53.359,0:36:58.400
to it and that is the fights so let's
0:36:55.920,0:37:01.119
talk about your coyote fight sounds uh
0:36:58.400,0:37:02.720
you know i've definitely uh used a few
0:37:01.119,0:37:04.480
this year and starting to incorporate
0:37:02.720,0:37:07.040
them into my sequences i've already got
0:37:04.480,0:37:09.359
a handful of favorite fight sounds from
0:37:07.040,0:37:11.200
mfk let's talk about those a little bit
0:37:09.359,0:37:13.200
tori
0:37:11.200,0:37:14.800
the fights are like you said when you
0:37:13.200,0:37:16.720
turn a fight on
0:37:14.800,0:37:18.560
it's usually exciting because you know
0:37:16.720,0:37:21.040
the action may get
0:37:18.560,0:37:23.520
may get quick and and fast
0:37:21.040,0:37:25.920
but the fights
0:37:23.520,0:37:28.160
you know same thing on them we start
0:37:25.920,0:37:29.599
with the little little bitty pup fights
0:37:28.160,0:37:31.440
and those are usually pecking order
0:37:29.599,0:37:32.720
fights and and those pups a lot of
0:37:31.440,0:37:34.320
people don't realize it but those
0:37:32.720,0:37:35.680
coyotes start fighting as soon as they
0:37:34.320,0:37:37.440
come out of the hole at about three
0:37:35.680,0:37:38.880
weeks old that's when they i mean
0:37:37.440,0:37:41.440
they're rough they're little but they're
0:37:38.880,0:37:43.520
bad and they are getting they're getting
0:37:41.440,0:37:45.520
with it with those pecking order type
0:37:43.520,0:37:47.200
fights and then you have and this is
0:37:45.520,0:37:48.880
something else i've learned
0:37:47.200,0:37:51.359
you've got your pecking order type
0:37:48.880,0:37:54.079
fights you've got your food fights and
0:37:51.359,0:37:55.839
then you've got your adult
0:37:54.079,0:37:57.680
that are basically dominant so you've
0:37:55.839,0:37:59.920
got adult food fights and you know
0:37:57.680,0:38:02.160
you're basically picking order
0:37:59.920,0:38:05.040
of those older age classes and those
0:38:02.160,0:38:06.560
different fights whether they be little
0:38:05.040,0:38:09.040
pup pecking order
0:38:06.560,0:38:11.200
food fights all the way up to the adults
0:38:09.040,0:38:14.160
those are different triggers so
0:38:11.200,0:38:16.400
you can play a little pup fight and then
0:38:14.160,0:38:19.520
move right on through to your older age
0:38:16.400,0:38:21.040
class fights and
0:38:19.520,0:38:22.720
you need to be doing that on stand
0:38:21.040,0:38:24.880
because
0:38:22.720,0:38:26.320
the different type fights will trigger
0:38:24.880,0:38:28.880
for a different reason i think those
0:38:26.320,0:38:31.119
coyotes know just by the way the sounds
0:38:28.880,0:38:32.400
are whether it's a food type fight or
0:38:31.119,0:38:34.720
whether it's a
0:38:32.400,0:38:36.160
you know pecking order type fight or a
0:38:34.720,0:38:38.560
breeding fight you know we've got the
0:38:36.160,0:38:42.000
breeding fights like girl fight and some
0:38:38.560,0:38:44.000
of those and those different
0:38:42.000,0:38:45.680
uh to us a lot of times it probably just
0:38:44.000,0:38:47.680
sounds like a bunch of growling but if
0:38:45.680,0:38:49.440
you really dissect and listen to the
0:38:47.680,0:38:51.599
details of those sounds
0:38:49.440,0:38:53.839
you can you'll hear differences like a
0:38:51.599,0:38:56.000
food fight a lot of times has
0:38:53.839,0:38:58.240
snorting and popping and you know you
0:38:56.000,0:39:00.000
hear their teeth or you may even hear
0:38:58.240,0:39:02.320
some of the smacking and stuff from them
0:39:00.000,0:39:03.760
eating and i think those are those
0:39:02.320,0:39:05.200
little subtle things with those
0:39:03.760,0:39:07.760
different fights
0:39:05.200,0:39:09.599
or are big triggers well you know
0:39:07.760,0:39:11.280
speaking on that a little bit tori it's
0:39:09.599,0:39:13.119
something i've noticed you know running
0:39:11.280,0:39:15.760
some of these these fights where like
0:39:13.119,0:39:17.680
you say it has the squealing coyotes or
0:39:15.760,0:39:18.560
pups whatever's in it and then you have
0:39:17.680,0:39:21.280
those
0:39:18.560,0:39:23.119
low tone growls and snarls and cackling
0:39:21.280,0:39:24.240
and all that crazy stuff i've actually
0:39:23.119,0:39:26.240
been out
0:39:24.240,0:39:28.400
and have coyotes respond those type of
0:39:26.240,0:39:29.599
sounds and see and actually get to see
0:39:28.400,0:39:32.400
them from a distance say out there in
0:39:29.599,0:39:34.880
the midwest or out there in wyoming uh
0:39:32.400,0:39:37.040
western states or whatever and see those
0:39:34.880,0:39:39.119
coyotes respond to them
0:39:37.040,0:39:41.280
and when the pup or adult coyote
0:39:39.119,0:39:43.119
whatever is screaming i've seen those
0:39:41.280,0:39:44.960
coyotes kind of slow down and start
0:39:43.119,0:39:47.280
looking real hard and then as soon as it
0:39:44.960,0:39:49.440
goes right back into that snarling and
0:39:47.280,0:39:50.640
growling and cackling all that stuff all
0:39:49.440,0:39:53.200
of a sudden they just turn the burners
0:39:50.640,0:39:54.960
on sonic comes screaming in and i swear
0:39:53.200,0:39:57.599
i think it just adds so much more
0:39:54.960,0:39:59.440
realism to those those sound files and i
0:39:57.599,0:40:02.320
think they come to that stuff just as
0:39:59.440,0:40:04.800
much or more as they do to the to the
0:40:02.320,0:40:06.400
pup distress type squealing that's in
0:40:04.800,0:40:09.040
with those sounds
0:40:06.400,0:40:10.800
i think you're exactly right
0:40:09.040,0:40:12.480
i've had this conversation with a few
0:40:10.800,0:40:13.920
people um
0:40:12.480,0:40:15.520
i think a lot of times you could go
0:40:13.920,0:40:17.520
right from your house right into those
0:40:15.520,0:40:19.119
fights and shorten your stands right on
0:40:17.520,0:40:21.440
up now you would probably leave some
0:40:19.119,0:40:23.359
coats out yeah right
0:40:21.440,0:40:25.440
so it's good to work through that whole
0:40:23.359,0:40:27.040
sequence but if you were
0:40:25.440,0:40:28.960
if you were in a hurry and just wanted
0:40:27.040,0:40:31.440
to burn had plenty of ground and you
0:40:28.960,0:40:32.480
were you know tournament hunting or just
0:40:31.440,0:40:34.800
trying to
0:40:32.480,0:40:36.800
make a pile you could probably go out
0:40:34.800,0:40:38.960
there do two or three house go right
0:40:36.800,0:40:38.960
into
0:40:40.079,0:40:43.520
another thing that's something if
0:40:41.520,0:40:45.440
anybody's ever watched
0:40:43.520,0:40:47.760
the hunts i've recorded over the last
0:40:45.440,0:40:49.920
several years i've actually done it for
0:40:47.760,0:40:52.560
a long time uh just i learned it in
0:40:49.920,0:40:54.640
summertime calling many years ago my
0:40:52.560,0:40:57.359
sequences before i started running a lot
0:40:54.640,0:40:59.040
actually recorded fights i would bump i
0:40:57.359,0:41:01.119
would use two sounds
0:40:59.040,0:41:03.119
i would keep i would keep bumping in
0:41:01.119,0:41:05.200
between some type of coyote growls and
0:41:03.119,0:41:06.880
some type of pup distress i would just
0:41:05.200,0:41:08.319
have it just keep hitting recall button
0:41:06.880,0:41:10.000
going from one to other and i still do
0:41:08.319,0:41:11.760
that some we'll actually be releasing a
0:41:10.000,0:41:13.920
video here here this weekend where i
0:41:11.760,0:41:17.119
call up a set of coyotes using the mfk
0:41:13.920,0:41:18.880
carnivore snarls and foxpro's nutty nut
0:41:17.119,0:41:21.119
pup just fight you know going in between
0:41:18.880,0:41:23.200
it sounds like a fight but i've noticed
0:41:21.119,0:41:25.920
a lot of times i'm calling them coyotes
0:41:23.200,0:41:28.800
on the grounds so i think it's it's just
0:41:25.920,0:41:30.480
a really really cool set of sounds
0:41:28.800,0:41:33.200
yeah they are and then you get into some
0:41:30.480,0:41:35.200
of the really aggressive stuff like uh
0:41:33.200,0:41:37.520
fight challenge and
0:41:35.200,0:41:39.359
bmf fight and some of those where you've
0:41:37.520,0:41:41.200
got a fight going on and you've got
0:41:39.359,0:41:42.880
another coyote you know
0:41:41.200,0:41:44.640
interested in the fight that's standing
0:41:42.880,0:41:47.200
out there barking and yapping and
0:41:44.640,0:41:49.119
carrying on almost i mean
0:41:47.200,0:41:51.280
you'd almost think it would scare them
0:41:49.119,0:41:52.640
but it doesn't you know right or it
0:41:51.280,0:41:54.880
doesn't scare all of them you know those
0:41:52.640,0:41:57.440
aggressive goats will run over those
0:41:54.880,0:41:58.480
sounds and so you know you can progress
0:41:57.440,0:42:01.200
through those
0:41:58.480,0:42:02.960
one thing that i'm really excited about
0:42:01.200,0:42:04.640
like i said earlier
0:42:02.960,0:42:06.960
it seems like every time i record a
0:42:04.640,0:42:09.119
batch of codes i learned something new
0:42:06.960,0:42:11.599
learn new things to try
0:42:09.119,0:42:14.319
different ways to you know go about
0:42:11.599,0:42:15.760
recording the sounds to get better audio
0:42:14.319,0:42:17.680
of some of that so because a lot of
0:42:15.760,0:42:20.240
times that growling and stuff like that
0:42:17.680,0:42:22.960
it's hard to get
0:42:20.240,0:42:24.880
you know get it like you want it
0:42:22.960,0:42:27.440
over you know and it mixed in good with
0:42:24.880,0:42:30.000
the higher pitch stuff so
0:42:27.440,0:42:31.760
i have got some stuff off this last
0:42:30.000,0:42:33.280
batch we tested them out for the first
0:42:31.760,0:42:34.480
time that's pretty much all we ran in
0:42:33.280,0:42:36.319
tennessee
0:42:34.480,0:42:38.160
and i'm trying to remember if we had a
0:42:36.319,0:42:40.319
blank stand
0:42:38.160,0:42:42.640
pile them up i know that
0:42:40.319,0:42:44.960
we thumped them and i was running
0:42:42.640,0:42:46.800
i've got some new breeding stuff
0:42:44.960,0:42:48.560
that we were running
0:42:46.800,0:42:50.400
and we hadn't even talked about that yet
0:42:48.560,0:42:52.319
but i was running a bunch of breeding
0:42:50.400,0:42:55.280
sounds and
0:42:52.319,0:42:57.760
fight sounds that were
0:42:55.280,0:42:59.520
basically anything from there it was a
0:42:57.760,0:43:01.040
lot of food fight stuff
0:42:59.520,0:43:03.040
and then i was mixing in some breeding
0:43:01.040,0:43:04.800
fights and we were calling in coyotes
0:43:03.040,0:43:06.560
that we knew were there there's a
0:43:04.800,0:43:08.720
couple's fans in particular that stand
0:43:06.560,0:43:10.319
out where the coyotes had vocalized and
0:43:08.720,0:43:11.440
were just right there hung up in the
0:43:10.319,0:43:12.720
tree line
0:43:11.440,0:43:14.240
and
0:43:12.720,0:43:15.920
wouldn't have played multiple other
0:43:14.240,0:43:18.960
sounds nothing
0:43:15.920,0:43:22.319
go to these type sounds
0:43:18.960,0:43:23.760
instant reaction i mean run us over well
0:43:22.319,0:43:25.440
that's kind of one thing was talking
0:43:23.760,0:43:27.119
about you know started this podcast i
0:43:25.440,0:43:28.880
said i'll save a little little story
0:43:27.119,0:43:30.640
there there towards the end and that's
0:43:28.880,0:43:31.599
what it was about was about these fight
0:43:30.640,0:43:32.800
sounds
0:43:31.599,0:43:34.640
um
0:43:32.800,0:43:36.960
while we were in kansas makes my second
0:43:34.640,0:43:40.000
or third trip out there this this spring
0:43:36.960,0:43:42.160
slash summer and i was really pouring uh
0:43:40.000,0:43:43.839
pound town on these coyotes but we was
0:43:42.160,0:43:45.599
still hunting some of the same ranches
0:43:43.839,0:43:47.040
but making different stands you know
0:43:45.599,0:43:49.280
some of these big five thousand acre
0:43:47.040,0:43:50.560
places and stuff like that and and i
0:43:49.280,0:43:52.240
would get late in the stand i would
0:43:50.560,0:43:53.359
start playing pound town because it's
0:43:52.240,0:43:54.640
already turned in one of my favorites
0:43:53.359,0:43:56.560
i'll go ahead and admit it i've killed a
0:43:54.640,0:43:58.160
pile of coyotes to it and it's just you
0:43:56.560,0:43:59.839
know i don't want to leave a stand
0:43:58.160,0:44:01.680
without playing it you know
0:43:59.839,0:44:03.119
whether we've called coyotes in or not
0:44:01.680,0:44:05.040
on that stand
0:44:03.119,0:44:07.119
well i noticed i was having was having a
0:44:05.040,0:44:09.119
few dry stands you know i was finished
0:44:07.119,0:44:10.160
with with pound town and i just go ahead
0:44:09.119,0:44:12.960
and say
0:44:10.160,0:44:15.200
guys listening yes i make dry stands
0:44:12.960,0:44:17.680
tori makes dry stands if he tells you
0:44:15.200,0:44:19.280
don't he lying to you everybody make a
0:44:17.680,0:44:21.440
lot of them
0:44:19.280,0:44:23.200
everybody makes dry stands and what you
0:44:21.440,0:44:24.319
just gotta do you gotta you gotta tell
0:44:23.200,0:44:26.079
yourself
0:44:24.319,0:44:27.760
or something that's not working you're
0:44:26.079,0:44:30.720
either not on the coyotes or you're not
0:44:27.760,0:44:32.800
running the right set of sounds so
0:44:30.720,0:44:35.040
what happened was
0:44:32.800,0:44:38.400
after pound town would play if nothing
0:44:35.040,0:44:40.000
show up um i started playing uh oh my
0:44:38.400,0:44:41.680
gosh i've done forgot it you we was just
0:44:40.000,0:44:43.760
talking about the other guy other day
0:44:41.680,0:44:46.800
tory you told me a fight that i needed
0:44:43.760,0:44:49.040
to start playing uh table scripts stable
0:44:46.800,0:44:51.119
scraps that's what it was mfk table
0:44:49.040,0:44:52.079
scraps and i tell you what late in the
0:44:51.119,0:44:53.520
stand
0:44:52.079,0:44:56.400
we would when i would switch over to
0:44:53.520,0:44:58.160
table scraps within two minutes so what
0:44:56.400,0:44:59.280
just tell me those coyotes were already
0:44:58.160,0:45:01.200
there they're sitting there listening to
0:44:59.280,0:45:02.960
everything we played when i'd switch
0:45:01.200,0:45:05.359
into table scraps they would come
0:45:02.960,0:45:06.160
screaming to the call
0:45:05.359,0:45:08.240
yeah
0:45:06.160,0:45:11.280
and and that right there the reason it's
0:45:08.240,0:45:13.119
named table scraps is it is a fight over
0:45:11.280,0:45:15.200
table scraps that's where the name come
0:45:13.119,0:45:16.800
from so it's a food fight
0:45:15.200,0:45:19.280
based
0:45:16.800,0:45:22.720
you know fight sound where with pound
0:45:19.280,0:45:25.280
town pound pounds like a sub adult adult
0:45:22.720,0:45:28.160
uh just whoop down type
0:45:25.280,0:45:30.800
type deal so two different type fights
0:45:28.160,0:45:32.640
and like you said you know pound town is
0:45:30.800,0:45:35.839
a killer but there's sometimes i like to
0:45:32.640,0:45:37.920
rotate those sounds because they're both
0:45:35.839,0:45:39.680
fights but they're they're fights for a
0:45:37.920,0:45:41.520
different reason i think the coyotes
0:45:39.680,0:45:43.520
know that and
0:45:41.520,0:45:45.200
you know adding those adding those in
0:45:43.520,0:45:46.720
just just like you just said you can
0:45:45.200,0:45:48.960
have something that's been working and
0:45:46.720,0:45:51.440
then all of a sudden it stopped you swap
0:45:48.960,0:45:53.359
to a you know a different
0:45:51.440,0:45:54.960
fight that's for a different reason or
0:45:53.359,0:45:56.400
whatever the sound may be and all of a
0:45:54.960,0:45:57.599
sudden you're back on those goats and
0:45:56.400,0:45:59.280
you're killing them again well and
0:45:57.599,0:46:01.760
that's what i did instead you know then
0:45:59.280,0:46:04.160
later in my sequences on the next stanz
0:46:01.760,0:46:06.240
instead of hitting pound town in that in
0:46:04.160,0:46:08.560
that time frame when i was running it i
0:46:06.240,0:46:10.319
just went ahead went to table scraps and
0:46:08.560,0:46:12.160
man we had all kinds of call-ins to it
0:46:10.319,0:46:13.520
just at the same time you know just
0:46:12.160,0:46:15.280
skipping that pound town and going right
0:46:13.520,0:46:17.599
to table scraps because we saw that was
0:46:15.280,0:46:19.839
working over the other and why it was
0:46:17.599,0:46:22.319
working uh during that time frame last
0:46:19.839,0:46:24.800
week i don't know but it sure was
0:46:22.319,0:46:26.000
yeah well and this is maybe information
0:46:24.800,0:46:27.359
they probably wouldn't want me giving
0:46:26.000,0:46:29.680
but i think they know about made their
0:46:27.359,0:46:32.400
runs in the eastern but you know every
0:46:29.680,0:46:33.599
year i'll try to hook hook up mfk boys
0:46:32.400,0:46:35.119
and fox pro
0:46:33.599,0:46:37.040
boys that are competing in those
0:46:35.119,0:46:39.359
contests i'll i'll hook them up with
0:46:37.040,0:46:41.440
sounds that are unreleased yet
0:46:39.359,0:46:44.400
and i come up with girl fight and i knew
0:46:41.440,0:46:46.800
girl fight was gonna do good
0:46:44.400,0:46:48.720
give it to them they go smash like if i
0:46:46.800,0:46:51.520
forget the exact number you know 40
0:46:48.720,0:46:52.319
something goes just something ridiculous
0:46:51.520,0:46:54.160
yeah
0:46:52.319,0:46:56.560
the following year and i may have the
0:46:54.160,0:46:59.119
years reversed i don't remember all the
0:46:56.560,0:47:00.640
details the following year
0:46:59.119,0:47:02.000
same area
0:47:00.640,0:47:03.839
go out there with girl fight it's
0:47:02.000,0:47:06.240
calling some coats but it's not calling
0:47:03.839,0:47:08.319
them the way it did the year before yeah
0:47:06.240,0:47:10.480
go over to pound town
0:47:08.319,0:47:12.400
start smashing them just two different
0:47:10.480,0:47:14.240
on fire again
0:47:12.400,0:47:16.560
yeah you just never know
0:47:14.240,0:47:18.800
which one and so if you've got them a
0:47:16.560,0:47:21.440
good tip for people and like sounds that
0:47:18.800,0:47:23.359
are available right now i'll just throw
0:47:21.440,0:47:24.800
three of them out there
0:47:23.359,0:47:25.680
because we've already talked about two
0:47:24.800,0:47:28.559
of them
0:47:25.680,0:47:30.079
but if they went with bam stanky pup
0:47:28.559,0:47:32.720
fight either the three week to eight
0:47:30.079,0:47:34.800
week that bam stanky pup fight is a
0:47:32.720,0:47:37.200
killer pup fight den vicious the den
0:47:34.800,0:47:40.000
vicious sounds are another good
0:47:37.200,0:47:41.200
really good pup fight yep so if if i
0:47:40.000,0:47:43.520
were gonna run
0:47:41.200,0:47:45.280
through a series of fights i would pick
0:47:43.520,0:47:46.640
one of those pup fights then vicious
0:47:45.280,0:47:49.040
damn stanky
0:47:46.640,0:47:50.559
go over the table scraps over to pound
0:47:49.040,0:47:52.400
town you could of course reverse the
0:47:50.559,0:47:54.720
order i don't think i ordered riders
0:47:52.400,0:47:56.559
right but just swapping even though
0:47:54.720,0:47:58.640
those are all fights
0:47:56.559,0:48:00.480
you'll kill more coats by
0:47:58.640,0:48:02.480
bouncing through those sounds the same
0:48:00.480,0:48:06.000
way with the pup distresses and your
0:48:02.480,0:48:06.960
howls and you know change that stuff up
0:48:06.000,0:48:08.720
and
0:48:06.960,0:48:11.520
see what they're biting on and when they
0:48:08.720,0:48:12.800
stop biting on something
0:48:11.520,0:48:14.720
change it a little bit and you can
0:48:12.800,0:48:16.880
probably get back you know it's like you
0:48:14.720,0:48:18.160
said it you got to be on coyotes but if
0:48:16.880,0:48:20.240
you know you're on coyotes and they're
0:48:18.160,0:48:22.160
not calling then you gotta change you
0:48:20.240,0:48:23.680
gotta change the bait yeah you gotta
0:48:22.160,0:48:26.800
change that change
0:48:23.680,0:48:28.400
and it's some awesome info toy we really
0:48:26.800,0:48:30.880
appreciate you sharing that and you and
0:48:28.400,0:48:32.319
you mentioned another uh group of sounds
0:48:30.880,0:48:34.319
that we hadn't talked about and we might
0:48:32.319,0:48:36.400
as well so you know last but certainly
0:48:34.319,0:48:38.319
not least let's talk about the breeding
0:48:36.400,0:48:40.960
sounds you brought breeding sounds up
0:48:38.319,0:48:42.960
let's discuss those a little bit
0:48:40.960,0:48:44.400
yeah i'm really excited and the reason a
0:48:42.960,0:48:46.640
lot of this stuff hasn't hit yes because
0:48:44.400,0:48:47.599
we're trying to get this new website
0:48:46.640,0:48:49.119
done
0:48:47.599,0:48:51.119
and i think we're getting close and
0:48:49.119,0:48:52.400
there'll be a lot of stuff that hits but
0:48:51.119,0:48:54.160
i've been sitting on some breeding
0:48:52.400,0:48:55.599
sounds for quite a while been getting to
0:48:54.160,0:48:58.160
run them a good bit
0:48:55.599,0:49:00.160
uh here and there but the breeding
0:48:58.160,0:49:01.599
sounds are
0:49:00.160,0:49:04.160
the breeding sounds are kind of one of
0:49:01.599,0:49:07.200
those unique deals when spike was here i
0:49:04.160,0:49:09.599
i ran a sound called greeting wines a
0:49:07.200,0:49:11.599
lot of people call them you know female
0:49:09.599,0:49:13.680
estrous chirps and a lot of that's what
0:49:11.599,0:49:16.400
they're typically referred to
0:49:13.680,0:49:17.359
males and female cows make the sound
0:49:16.400,0:49:19.920
but
0:49:17.359,0:49:21.280
i finally got a pretty good recording
0:49:19.920,0:49:23.839
i've recorded this sound a bunch of
0:49:21.280,0:49:26.400
times but what's unique about the
0:49:23.839,0:49:28.640
breeding sounds is how well they work
0:49:26.400,0:49:30.800
year round it's just one of those i
0:49:28.640,0:49:33.119
don't know if it's an instinctive deal
0:49:30.800,0:49:36.000
with them or what but
0:49:33.119,0:49:38.720
i've got to where i run breeding sounds
0:49:36.000,0:49:40.800
during the summertime and i mentioned
0:49:38.720,0:49:43.040
earlier that tennessee hunt
0:49:40.800,0:49:45.680
i've recorded i recorded some breeding
0:49:43.040,0:49:47.920
fights between a couple hot females
0:49:45.680,0:49:50.000
actually several hot females and then
0:49:47.920,0:49:52.079
also recorded some stuff one of them's
0:49:50.000,0:49:54.240
called cornered hottie and stuff like
0:49:52.079,0:49:56.240
that where it's a it's basically a
0:49:54.240,0:49:58.160
female that's coming into heat she's
0:49:56.240,0:50:00.400
being harassed by the mail
0:49:58.160,0:50:02.720
and i turned that sound on
0:50:00.400,0:50:04.240
you know three weeks ago four weeks ago
0:50:02.720,0:50:05.760
in tennessee
0:50:04.240,0:50:08.240
and the couch were
0:50:05.760,0:50:09.520
running over the call as fast as they
0:50:08.240,0:50:11.680
would run over
0:50:09.520,0:50:12.480
uh you know pound town or something like
0:50:11.680,0:50:13.839
that
0:50:12.480,0:50:16.240
and those
0:50:13.839,0:50:17.760
those breeding sounds are just
0:50:16.240,0:50:19.520
another
0:50:17.760,0:50:21.760
you know typically
0:50:19.520,0:50:23.440
up until here recently that's something
0:50:21.760,0:50:25.200
that you know you're you know how it is
0:50:23.440,0:50:27.280
your sequence will change your call
0:50:25.200,0:50:29.280
sequence will change as
0:50:27.280,0:50:31.119
the time of the year changes and i still
0:50:29.280,0:50:32.079
hold to that pretty good
0:50:31.119,0:50:35.200
but
0:50:32.079,0:50:38.240
mixing in a few of those breeding sounds
0:50:35.200,0:50:40.400
this time of the year in the bad idea
0:50:38.240,0:50:42.400
most of the time i would go yeah you
0:50:40.400,0:50:44.079
know most of the time you get into that
0:50:42.400,0:50:45.839
once the coach start pairing up we'll
0:50:44.079,0:50:47.680
start kind of swapping back over you've
0:50:45.839,0:50:50.240
probably been prey heavy most people
0:50:47.680,0:50:52.400
didn't pray heavy through uh you know
0:50:50.240,0:50:54.880
through your fall early winter months
0:50:52.400,0:50:56.559
those cows start pairing up we'll start
0:50:54.880,0:50:58.640
adding those vocals and
0:50:56.559,0:51:00.640
and breeding sounds
0:50:58.640,0:51:02.319
into our call sequence and you know
0:51:00.640,0:51:03.520
moving those breeding sounds towards the
0:51:02.319,0:51:05.119
front end
0:51:03.520,0:51:07.280
of the call sequence where you've
0:51:05.119,0:51:09.839
probably been playing you know stuff
0:51:07.280,0:51:11.359
like rabbit or even pump distress or
0:51:09.839,0:51:13.920
something like that and that works
0:51:11.359,0:51:13.920
really good
0:51:14.160,0:51:18.160
and and those new sounds or those
0:51:16.240,0:51:20.480
breeding sounds which some of a lot of
0:51:18.160,0:51:23.680
them are already out but
0:51:20.480,0:51:26.079
they're just not only are they killer
0:51:23.680,0:51:28.480
when cows are pairing and breeding
0:51:26.079,0:51:30.720
they work really good as another trigger
0:51:28.480,0:51:33.839
just one more thing to throw into your
0:51:30.720,0:51:35.599
uh to your mix of sounds
0:51:33.839,0:51:38.480
even this time of year that's that's
0:51:35.599,0:51:41.119
pretty interesting i've i've never
0:51:38.480,0:51:43.359
i've never run any breeding type sounds
0:51:41.119,0:51:44.960
throughout the summer now i have
0:51:43.359,0:51:47.040
you know when i was trying to you know
0:51:44.960,0:51:48.480
always mix my own fights you know just
0:51:47.040,0:51:50.480
running through sounds i would used to
0:51:48.480,0:51:52.319
play female whimpers a little bit just
0:51:50.480,0:51:53.920
because it had that couple little chirps
0:51:52.319,0:51:55.200
but i would get out of it quick i wasn't
0:51:53.920,0:51:57.040
really doing it just be running a
0:51:55.200,0:51:58.480
breathing sound it was it was something
0:51:57.040,0:52:00.480
that would add to my growls my pup
0:51:58.480,0:52:03.200
distress but actually running
0:52:00.480,0:52:05.359
you know full steam a breeding sound i
0:52:03.200,0:52:06.720
never really thought about that and uh
0:52:05.359,0:52:08.720
it's pretty interesting for you to bring
0:52:06.720,0:52:10.559
that up it's uh that's a that's a good
0:52:08.720,0:52:12.000
little tidbit of information i'd say
0:52:10.559,0:52:13.280
somebody could take this and go kill a
0:52:12.000,0:52:14.480
few extra coyotes through the summer
0:52:13.280,0:52:16.240
months
0:52:14.480,0:52:18.319
well and you mentioned in those chirps
0:52:16.240,0:52:20.960
there's something about those you know
0:52:18.319,0:52:22.960
those older age-class
0:52:20.960,0:52:25.280
chirping type sounds they're not really
0:52:22.960,0:52:26.800
a distress they're almost like you know
0:52:25.280,0:52:28.720
think of a coyote
0:52:26.800,0:52:30.800
or people have seen two dogs you know
0:52:28.720,0:52:32.480
where that female's not really ready and
0:52:30.800,0:52:35.359
she's being harassed and she's just
0:52:32.480,0:52:37.680
making all these little weird sounds
0:52:35.359,0:52:39.760
those sounds trigger really well and
0:52:37.680,0:52:41.760
they they trigger really well anytime
0:52:39.760,0:52:43.280
there's something about those and
0:52:41.760,0:52:44.480
they've got those little breaks and
0:52:43.280,0:52:47.200
stuff in them
0:52:44.480,0:52:48.800
uh it's just it's just something else
0:52:47.200,0:52:50.559
that
0:52:48.800,0:52:51.599
that triggers really well that a lot of
0:52:50.559,0:52:53.839
people
0:52:51.599,0:52:56.240
don't run or don't have access to those
0:52:53.839,0:52:58.000
sounds are fairly hard to get right
0:52:56.240,0:52:58.640
especially to get clean recordings on
0:52:58.000,0:53:00.079
them
0:52:58.640,0:53:00.880
we know we know where you can get them
0:53:00.079,0:53:04.000
now
0:53:00.880,0:53:06.480
mf mfk library we got them
0:53:04.000,0:53:09.280
i've been man i have spent
0:53:06.480,0:53:13.359
their that greeting wine sound
0:53:09.280,0:53:15.599
i have stayed outside all night long on
0:53:13.359,0:53:16.720
frigid cold nights just trying to get
0:53:15.599,0:53:18.319
that
0:53:16.720,0:53:20.240
trying to get those sounds there are a
0:53:18.319,0:53:22.559
lot of times howls i mean all kinds of
0:53:20.240,0:53:24.400
sounds where i'll hear these goats and i
0:53:22.559,0:53:26.160
want that sound
0:53:24.400,0:53:28.000
and there's still some sounds that i
0:53:26.160,0:53:31.200
have yet to capture or get them the way
0:53:28.000,0:53:33.040
that i want is just you know so much
0:53:31.200,0:53:34.079
so much that goes into it behind the
0:53:33.040,0:53:36.880
scenes
0:53:34.079,0:53:38.400
um to get some of these sounds and you
0:53:36.880,0:53:40.160
know i appreciate everybody that's
0:53:38.400,0:53:42.400
running foxboro and running mfk and
0:53:40.160,0:53:44.960
killing coyotes with this stuff it means
0:53:42.400,0:53:46.480
a lot to me and uh i mean they're
0:53:44.960,0:53:49.119
nothing beats
0:53:46.480,0:53:50.800
finally getting those sounds
0:53:49.119,0:53:52.800
getting them cleaned up putting them out
0:53:50.800,0:53:53.440
there somebody put them on their call
0:53:52.800,0:53:55.680
and
0:53:53.440,0:53:56.800
you know an estate across the country
0:53:55.680,0:53:58.160
from you
0:53:56.800,0:54:00.240
and then
0:53:58.160,0:54:02.960
yeah you see where they you know tags in
0:54:00.240,0:54:04.640
a post on facebook you know killed
0:54:02.960,0:54:06.480
killed a double killed a triple kill my
0:54:04.640,0:54:08.559
first coat whatever running right
0:54:06.480,0:54:09.359
running this sound and then you know it
0:54:08.559,0:54:11.040
just
0:54:09.359,0:54:13.680
there's probably a lot of there's a lot
0:54:11.040,0:54:16.559
of times where i'm frustrated and
0:54:13.680,0:54:18.960
almost wanting to cuss the the process
0:54:16.559,0:54:20.960
and then you see that stuff come around
0:54:18.960,0:54:23.280
and it makes it all worth it makes it
0:54:20.960,0:54:24.640
all worth it it's uh yeah it's pretty
0:54:23.280,0:54:25.920
good you kind of give me an idea here
0:54:24.640,0:54:27.599
while we were talking i think we're
0:54:25.920,0:54:29.520
gonna save it for a different podcast as
0:54:27.599,0:54:30.800
long as we can talk in coming back on i
0:54:29.520,0:54:32.000
think what would be really good for
0:54:30.800,0:54:34.640
everybody
0:54:32.000,0:54:37.359
tori is is here in the future is us
0:54:34.640,0:54:39.119
jumping back on here and doing like a uh
0:54:37.359,0:54:41.760
call sequence
0:54:39.119,0:54:44.720
for all seasons you know talk about our
0:54:41.760,0:54:47.440
spring and summer style sequences how we
0:54:44.720,0:54:49.680
transition into our fall sequences and
0:54:47.440,0:54:51.280
then then going right into winter if
0:54:49.680,0:54:52.720
you'd be interested sometime i think a
0:54:51.280,0:54:55.440
lot of people could really learn from
0:54:52.720,0:54:56.960
that uh hear from how you know we'll
0:54:55.440,0:54:58.640
just bounce stuff off each other you
0:54:56.960,0:55:00.640
talk about how you run your sequences
0:54:58.640,0:55:01.839
i'll talk about mine i think really get
0:55:00.640,0:55:03.280
some good stuff out of that what you
0:55:01.839,0:55:05.680
think
0:55:03.280,0:55:07.920
sounds sounds good and anything coyote
0:55:05.680,0:55:09.119
hunting i'm i'm in
0:55:07.920,0:55:11.359
well i'm going to ask you i'm going to
0:55:09.119,0:55:12.880
ask you just a few quick hit questions
0:55:11.359,0:55:15.680
to finish up we've been on here quite a
0:55:12.880,0:55:17.200
while but i've asked big al this stuff
0:55:15.680,0:55:19.040
talked to abner
0:55:17.200,0:55:21.200
drucken miller which i know you know
0:55:19.040,0:55:24.079
those guys pretty well had corey groff
0:55:21.200,0:55:25.520
on here a couple weeks ago man corey i
0:55:24.079,0:55:27.520
was really impressed talking with him
0:55:25.520,0:55:29.520
but i asked all the all those guys these
0:55:27.520,0:55:30.799
same questions and it's just simple
0:55:29.520,0:55:32.880
stuff
0:55:30.799,0:55:37.200
but i think it's cool for everybody to
0:55:32.880,0:55:38.960
hear um hear the answers from everybody
0:55:37.200,0:55:41.680
because i you i think you start to see
0:55:38.960,0:55:43.839
kind of a uh a correlation with some
0:55:41.680,0:55:46.240
some of the guys but it's like the first
0:55:43.839,0:55:48.160
question here tori is uh what's your
0:55:46.240,0:55:50.160
favorite unit what what unit do you grab
0:55:48.160,0:55:51.280
the most when you go out there to to go
0:55:50.160,0:55:53.119
coyote hunting you know if you're going
0:55:51.280,0:55:54.640
coyote hunting this this weekend what
0:55:53.119,0:55:57.200
call you grabbing
0:55:54.640,0:56:00.000
hands down x24 i like some other ones
0:55:57.200,0:56:02.720
but just the simplicity reliability and
0:56:00.000,0:56:04.400
that 24 bit audio with the x24
0:56:02.720,0:56:07.040
that's what i'm gonna have with me yes
0:56:04.400,0:56:09.040
sir i totally agree with you all right
0:56:07.040,0:56:11.520
here's here's a good one
0:56:09.040,0:56:13.839
watch your top three
0:56:11.520,0:56:15.839
favorite sounds you know if you're gonna
0:56:13.839,0:56:17.680
go out and you only have three you can
0:56:15.839,0:56:19.680
only have three sounds on your call
0:56:17.680,0:56:21.359
which three sounds are you taking and
0:56:19.680,0:56:23.280
this is for year round calling it don't
0:56:21.359,0:56:26.720
matter what time of year it is what
0:56:23.280,0:56:26.720
three sounds you wanna have on your call
0:56:27.359,0:56:32.240
well that is a tough one i'd probably go
0:56:29.760,0:56:33.920
boone long wine house
0:56:32.240,0:56:35.920
uh
0:56:33.920,0:56:37.280
man that is so tough i got some new ones
0:56:35.920,0:56:41.960
that i'm just i'm gonna go with what i
0:56:37.280,0:56:41.960
already know so boom long wine house
0:56:44.240,0:56:50.880
this is a tough one on everybody and boy
0:56:47.040,0:56:50.880
it is really tough uh
0:56:50.960,0:56:54.960
only one it was really tough
0:56:52.960,0:56:57.440
was corey he rattled him right off he
0:56:54.960,0:56:57.440
knew exactly
0:56:57.520,0:57:02.400
probably submissive beggar and and pound
0:57:00.319,0:57:04.960
town and submissive beggar is that one
0:57:02.400,0:57:06.880
where i've got two or three sounds where
0:57:04.960,0:57:09.040
i could swap in there like broke pups
0:57:06.880,0:57:10.799
then vicious you know some of those
0:57:09.040,0:57:14.000
so you're picking you're picking a good
0:57:10.799,0:57:17.680
how a social sound and a fight
0:57:14.000,0:57:20.640
right and that that social sound is
0:57:17.680,0:57:22.720
i'm torn between picking it but
0:57:20.640,0:57:24.880
because i kind of want to go with a with
0:57:22.720,0:57:27.359
a pup distress right but it's close
0:57:24.880,0:57:28.960
enough to a pup distress i think i'm
0:57:27.359,0:57:30.559
gonna split the difference there on that
0:57:28.960,0:57:32.240
well how about this i'll give you an
0:57:30.559,0:57:34.640
honorable mention i'll give you four
0:57:32.240,0:57:39.640
watch your fourth one
0:57:34.640,0:57:39.640
my fourth one would probably be
0:57:42.240,0:57:47.119
would probably be
0:57:44.640,0:57:49.200
broke pups broke pups that's a nice
0:57:47.119,0:57:52.160
sound i ran that sound quite a bit early
0:57:49.200,0:57:53.680
summer late spring i saw actually that's
0:57:52.160,0:57:56.400
one of the sounds we was talking about
0:57:53.680,0:57:58.400
running some denon sounds in in march
0:57:56.400,0:58:00.400
that's the sound i ran i had a lot of i
0:57:58.400,0:58:03.280
had some good good call-ins to broke
0:58:00.400,0:58:04.960
pups in march it was it was awesome well
0:58:03.280,0:58:07.680
that's it's pretty good stuff all right
0:58:04.960,0:58:09.839
i got one more for you here
0:58:07.680,0:58:11.839
one sound take your call out you don't
0:58:09.839,0:58:13.920
have one sound on it which we know you
0:58:11.839,0:58:15.200
know you grade on a diaphragm so you can
0:58:13.920,0:58:17.040
do all kinds of stuff with just your
0:58:15.200,0:58:18.640
mouth but you're gonna run that ecau
0:58:17.040,0:58:20.960
what sound you're gonna have on it one
0:58:18.640,0:58:20.960
sound
0:58:21.520,0:58:26.799
i'd probably go i'd probably go with
0:58:23.520,0:58:28.720
poundtown downtown it's man it that i
0:58:26.799,0:58:30.559
tell you what how many times have you
0:58:28.720,0:58:33.040
been on social media
0:58:30.559,0:58:35.680
or wherever else and hear or see
0:58:33.040,0:58:37.520
the name pound town that has become one
0:58:35.680,0:58:40.000
of the killingest
0:58:37.520,0:58:42.079
coyote colonist sounds ever recorded i
0:58:40.000,0:58:44.640
think that's a great great pick
0:58:42.079,0:58:46.640
and you could mix that right in with you
0:58:44.640,0:58:49.040
know you could say pound town you could
0:58:46.640,0:58:51.040
say pump three from foxpro you know
0:58:49.040,0:58:52.799
there are some sounds that which book
0:58:51.040,0:58:55.680
three has been around
0:58:52.799,0:58:59.280
and it's still killing oh gosh
0:58:55.680,0:59:00.400
and piles and piles of coats so you know
0:58:59.280,0:59:02.000
for
0:59:00.400,0:59:04.720
for pound town
0:59:02.000,0:59:06.079
you know i hopefully
0:59:04.720,0:59:07.680
it's people
0:59:06.079,0:59:10.240
people talk about you know what's that
0:59:07.680,0:59:12.799
one sound i don't think there's a one
0:59:10.240,0:59:14.319
sound but if you can be mentioned
0:59:12.799,0:59:15.760
amongst the greats
0:59:14.319,0:59:16.640
then you've accomplished something and i
0:59:15.760,0:59:19.119
think
0:59:16.640,0:59:21.040
is on the way to be mentioned amongst
0:59:19.119,0:59:22.880
you know some of those great
0:59:21.040,0:59:25.599
sounds
0:59:22.880,0:59:26.640
some of that stuff and uh that's that's
0:59:25.599,0:59:29.440
what you're going for when you're
0:59:26.640,0:59:32.720
recording sounds and the same thing you
0:59:29.440,0:59:35.040
know you get this song too people will
0:59:32.720,0:59:37.040
we'll talk about you know who's
0:59:35.040,0:59:40.160
who's the greatest who's the best who's
0:59:37.040,0:59:42.720
that if you can be remembered and
0:59:40.160,0:59:45.280
mentioned amongst the many greats out
0:59:42.720,0:59:47.040
there and you've contributed to you know
0:59:45.280,0:59:48.720
other people being successful and stuff
0:59:47.040,0:59:51.040
like that you just get your name thrown
0:59:48.720,0:59:52.559
in the mix somewhere that's good enough
0:59:51.040,0:59:54.640
that's what you that's what you're going
0:59:52.559,0:59:55.920
for that is good stuff and i'll go ahead
0:59:54.640,0:59:57.920
tell you tori i mean you've helped me
0:59:55.920,0:59:59.520
kill a few extra coyotes over the years
0:59:57.920,1:00:01.680
especially this year you know give me a
0:59:59.520,1:00:03.839
few tips on sounds to run and there's
1:00:01.680,1:00:05.920
some coyotes that's hit the dirt
1:00:03.839,1:00:07.119
uh coming out of the barrel of my you
1:00:05.920,1:00:09.599
know bullet come out of the barrel my
1:00:07.119,1:00:10.640
rifle that uh that tory cook helped me
1:00:09.599,1:00:13.839
call in even though you wouldn't
1:00:10.640,1:00:15.839
understand so hey and that's that's goes
1:00:13.839,1:00:18.000
the same way there are probably people
1:00:15.839,1:00:19.119
sitting out there thinking that you know
1:00:18.000,1:00:20.400
there's some of us sitting there
1:00:19.119,1:00:23.280
thinking well you can't learn anything
1:00:20.400,1:00:24.160
from anybody else but i watch pretty
1:00:23.280,1:00:25.280
much
1:00:24.160,1:00:27.040
every
1:00:25.280,1:00:29.359
video that that comes out you know for
1:00:27.040,1:00:31.839
the most part i watch all your stuff i
1:00:29.359,1:00:34.000
watch and i have picked up things from
1:00:31.839,1:00:36.000
other people watching stuff just little
1:00:34.000,1:00:38.000
you know just little things that
1:00:36.000,1:00:39.440
you know you you pick up on from other
1:00:38.000,1:00:40.480
people and uh
1:00:39.440,1:00:41.920
if uh
1:00:40.480,1:00:44.480
if you get too good to learn from
1:00:41.920,1:00:46.079
somebody else that's usually where where
1:00:44.480,1:00:48.720
you put the brakes on and you stop
1:00:46.079,1:00:50.319
learning and uh
1:00:48.720,1:00:52.640
everything slows down for you because
1:00:50.319,1:00:54.559
it's a con that's that's another deal
1:00:52.640,1:00:57.200
that i've learned from the coyotes
1:00:54.559,1:01:01.040
it is a continuous
1:00:57.200,1:01:02.160
process of learning changing evolving
1:01:01.040,1:01:04.319
you know the
1:01:02.160,1:01:06.319
the products get better the sounds get
1:01:04.319,1:01:08.880
better we get better with putting all
1:01:06.319,1:01:11.520
that stuff together you know and using
1:01:08.880,1:01:12.880
it and you know where we're at today
1:01:11.520,1:01:15.520
versus
1:01:12.880,1:01:18.240
you know just a few years ago is huge
1:01:15.520,1:01:20.319
and i think we'll continue to see that
1:01:18.240,1:01:22.319
you know i agree
1:01:20.319,1:01:24.480
i know that's another reason i like the
1:01:22.319,1:01:27.520
fox pro partnership because
1:01:24.480,1:01:29.599
the people behind foxpro are
1:01:27.520,1:01:30.720
coyote hunters they are predator hunters
1:01:29.599,1:01:32.319
so they're
1:01:30.720,1:01:34.160
right off the bat
1:01:32.319,1:01:37.200
one thing that i always consider with my
1:01:34.160,1:01:40.079
sounds is what i have to look forward to
1:01:37.200,1:01:41.599
what's coming down the road right and
1:01:40.079,1:01:43.520
when you've got you know you've got
1:01:41.599,1:01:46.000
companies out there that put out you
1:01:43.520,1:01:47.119
know they put out products that'll kill
1:01:46.000,1:01:49.599
but
1:01:47.119,1:01:51.920
where's their primary focus right that's
1:01:49.599,1:01:55.520
what i like about foxpro foxpro's
1:01:51.920,1:01:56.880
primary focus is on staying on top
1:01:55.520,1:01:59.280
of
1:01:56.880,1:02:01.520
the best stuff out there
1:01:59.280,1:02:04.160
you know quality products new products
1:02:01.520,1:02:05.119
new technology they stay on top of that
1:02:04.160,1:02:06.480
which
1:02:05.119,1:02:09.680
directly
1:02:06.480,1:02:11.520
helps me with my sounds and then that
1:02:09.680,1:02:13.920
just transitions right on over to
1:02:11.520,1:02:15.280
everybody else with being able to kill
1:02:13.920,1:02:18.000
more coats
1:02:15.280,1:02:19.920
that's 100 true you know
1:02:18.000,1:02:21.200
foxpro is american-made company the
1:02:19.920,1:02:22.880
company's right up here in lewistown
1:02:21.200,1:02:25.200
pennsylvania and
1:02:22.880,1:02:28.000
in every single department from top to
1:02:25.200,1:02:29.359
bottom is full of predator hunters i
1:02:28.000,1:02:30.559
mean that's what we do we're coyote
1:02:29.359,1:02:31.839
hunters
1:02:30.559,1:02:34.160
it's just a great company to be
1:02:31.839,1:02:35.920
associated with and like i said earlier
1:02:34.160,1:02:36.799
i've said it numerous times and i've
1:02:35.920,1:02:38.079
said it
1:02:36.799,1:02:39.280
several different times throughout this
1:02:38.079,1:02:41.839
podcast
1:02:39.280,1:02:44.079
really pumped about the mfk and foxpro
1:02:41.839,1:02:45.520
partnership can't say enough about it
1:02:44.079,1:02:48.240
oh it's been
1:02:45.520,1:02:50.400
it's been a blessing for us
1:02:48.240,1:02:52.960
we've been super pleased with it look
1:02:50.400,1:02:54.079
forward to a lot of a lot of years on
1:02:52.960,1:02:56.559
down the road
1:02:54.079,1:02:57.839
doing what we're doing good stuff so you
1:02:56.559,1:02:59.920
got anything else you want to add before
1:02:57.839,1:03:01.920
we close this out tori
1:02:59.920,1:03:03.839
hey just appreciate everybody uh
1:03:01.920,1:03:07.200
checking our stuff out using foxpro
1:03:03.839,1:03:09.520
using mfk means a lot uh just wanna say
1:03:07.200,1:03:12.000
thank you to to all those people it's uh
1:03:09.520,1:03:12.799
it never goes unnoticed
1:03:12.000,1:03:15.760
so
1:03:12.799,1:03:18.319
appreciate y'all awesome great stuff for
1:03:15.760,1:03:19.839
thank you so much toy for being being on
1:03:18.319,1:03:22.079
this podcast like i said we'll get on
1:03:19.839,1:03:23.359
here again for too long maybe we'll talk
1:03:22.079,1:03:25.520
about some of the
1:03:23.359,1:03:27.520
some of uh maybe some prey distress type
1:03:25.520,1:03:28.960
sounds and uh talk about like was
1:03:27.520,1:03:30.319
talking about earlier talk about our
1:03:28.960,1:03:31.680
sequences that we use throughout the
1:03:30.319,1:03:33.680
year and
1:03:31.680,1:03:36.000
if you guys are interested in the mfk
1:03:33.680,1:03:38.760
sound library you can find that library
1:03:36.000,1:03:41.280
on the go foxpro.com and the
1:03:38.760,1:03:43.119
mfkgamecalls.com websites we hope
1:03:41.280,1:03:44.480
everyone has enjoyed this episode we
1:03:43.119,1:03:48.039
hope you join us again right here on the
1:03:44.480,1:03:48.039
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