FOXPRO's Jon Collins and Gage Bohannon talk everything hunting, with a focus on night hunting coyotes in their home state of Kentucky.
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podcast we've got Fox Pro staffer Gage
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bohannan joining us the topic for this
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episode is nighttime cow hunting this
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should be a good one Gage thanks for
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joining us buddy I appreciate y'all
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having me good this will be this is your
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first time on here I'm sure it won't be
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your last um I like I said I gug has
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been pretty busy he has a uh he's a
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mechanic by trade owns his own shop so
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we've been trying to work him in for the
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last month or two and it finally worked
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finally worked out this afternoon but uh
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Gage if you don't care won't you tell us
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a little bit about yourself
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oh yeah well uh well born and raised in
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Henry County Kentucky and been C calling
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quite a while and in the last couple
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years we've gotten into the nighttime
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stuff where ky's kind of opened up that
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night rifle season and uh you know
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honestly the own and moan business thing
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was kind of a big push for the night
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thing you get so caught up and so busy
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during the day that you can't just find
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the time to get out and go and it was
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real easy and I've got three young kids
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so you know you get the kids to bed get
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everybody calmed down and then go out
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and make a couple stands at night and it
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was just a a nice easy kind of getaway
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you didn't have to worry about too much
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that's that that does uh gives you more
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opportunity in the field that is that is
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for sure um you know and I'll I'll add
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on a little bit to what Gage said there
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you know um you know there's a there's
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definitely a reason why we have Gage on
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for this episode you know Gage is a
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phenomenal phenomenal coyote collar has
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plenty of experience hunting both
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daytime and nighttime he's not scared of
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either one and has tons of success
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calling both day and night Gage is also
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one of the top deer hunters in the state
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of Kentucky which he wasn't going to say
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nothing about got several monster white
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tails underneath these build including a
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19 in bill from last season and it
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didn't take you very long to get on the
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board this year either did it Gage no
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this year was actually pretty quick man
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to be honest with you this year was one
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of those like hidden blessings that you
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didn't see coming um I honestly had more
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shooter class deer this year on camera
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than I'd ever had and you know
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everybody's kind of got those you know
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especially with the there was a lot of
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people against it I was actually super
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for them moving the as far as like
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feeding grain date back in Kentucky and
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um the amount of big deer that you were
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able to hold and actually kind of
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pattern because of that was phenomenal
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this year and opening day actually just
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happened to work out on a real old
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gnarly buck that was actually off of my
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home Farm here where my shop and my
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house is yeah that uh that made it AR
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you probably just walked till you stand
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from the house didn't you have to drive
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down the road no it was awesome there's
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a so back here I don't know a few years
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ago I actually have used it a million
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times to walk in and make that coow
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stand but there's a tree across the
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fence that's like the field that's right
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directly behind my house and the field
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where I killed him at and um you were
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literally able to walk right through
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that hole in the fence and then I
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actually had a ground blind and there's
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a hedge apple tree that's about halfway
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on the ground back there that you could
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just tuck that blind in it was a super
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cake one of those 15 yard shots I
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actually had him and probably a mid 60s
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class deer that had a big Triple Beam um
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they actually both came in the night
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that I shot that uh funky rack deer but
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uh the that deer that I killed was just
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a really old Buck he would starting to
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shed velvet and when he started that man
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he was trying to run everything out of
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that spot I mean he was running doves
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off he was running
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the so it was time to get rid of him
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yeah that's uh that's definitely one of
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those things too especially if you get
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them started on Feed and yes here in
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Kentucky you're allowed to feed uh Gage
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was talking about they actually pushed
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that date they actually put a a buffer
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in there where I forget what it is it's
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something like March something through
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whatever that you can't put any feed out
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there you go you couldn't put feed out
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on the ground but I just goe te gaug you
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know I feed deer you know I do as well I
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never would start feeding till sometime
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in that time period anyway because you
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know it gets expensive throwing $8 Bush
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of corn out on the ground oh yeah and
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it's not only just the cost I mean what
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it comes down to is you'll notice a lot
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of times these guys will have you know
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back when we could feed you know right
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after turkey season was over we you'd
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have guys go out big corn pile of deer
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you know say right there mid into May
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and they would have this giant you know
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they'd tell all their buddies about oh
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man I got this 180 on camera he's in
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there like CLK work well then a month
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later the spots overran with doze and
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that 180s disappeared right right and so
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I'm all for the later season date I mean
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it if you're you know if you're one of
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those guys now I know there's some
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people out there that don't you know
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might not agree with baiting or whatever
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it is but if you're a guy that don't
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mind hunting over it you can retain a
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large buck so much later if you wait and
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hold off on feeding y yep and another
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thing too just like you said might be
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some people people listen is not for it
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I think there's a misconception about
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feeding out there as well it's it's not
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just as simple as throwing a bag of corn
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out there wherever you want to and you
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just sit on it and you just wait for the
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bucks come and you kill them their
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strategy to feeding it's not as easy as
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you might think you'll hear a lot of
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people say well you can't kill a big
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buck over corn I'm sure you've heard
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that before Gage there a lot of people
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says that right here in the state of
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Kentucky but the reason they don't kill
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big bucks on corn is because they're not
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doing it right there actually is a
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strategy when it comes to baiting
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deer believe is and like I say I've
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killed you know I've I've been very
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blessed with both I've killed them with
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bows during rut hunts I've killed them
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over bait um I've killed them in travel
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ways and stuff like that I mean I've you
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know there's I've definitely had my fair
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share of differences and you know
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somebody say it might take the fun out
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of it or whatever but man when you trick
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a 170 180 190 inch deer into doing
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something something that he shouldn't
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have done and you come out on top it's a
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good feeling either way to me so I'm
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personally I'm not you know if you're
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against it you're against it if you're
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for it you're for it but I'm like I say
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I if if there's a legal means to kill
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him and I've got a big deer I'm GNA do
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that that's that's exactly right and I
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mentioned it there just a minute ago but
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killed a one of the prettiest Buck he's
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not only a huge Buck he's one of the
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prettiest bucks uh far as how his racks
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built I've ever seen your was it 189
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inch 190 inch bucket killed last last
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year in Kentucky what just early bow
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season kill right it was September 20th
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yeah um it was September 20th of last
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year he was 189 and an eth um and he was
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actually a big surprise deer um it was a
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new Farm um that I had done some work on
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a farmer's truck for and went in there
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and you know got lucky and he showed up
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and was able to get him killed but it
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was a uh it was definitely I one of the
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greatest hunts I've ever had for sure
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just because I mean you know not
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everybody will but man I hope that
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everybody gets the chance to see
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something like that walk across the
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field towards
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them well it's we mentioned a little bit
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about deer hunting because it's deer
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season right now this is tell in October
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when we're recording this and Bucks are
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just now starting to show a little sign
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of rud action a lot of scrapes being
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laid down and uh um I've actually heard
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of some people grunting and r battling
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up bucks over the last few days so we
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had throw a little bit of deer talk in
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here but uh yeah I'd love to see
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something like that but I'm going go
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ahead and tell you I've always told
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everybody I'm like a
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four-year-old's sometimes a
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three-year-old deer's worst nightmare
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especially if I'm hitting horns together
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or if I'm in a state where I can use the
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fox Pro to call in Deer if I'm calling
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in a buck and he's he's somewhat solid
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looking usually he's getting an arrow in
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him yeah he's in trouble hey you can't
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say nothing though now you laid down one
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monster 8 point what was it year before
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last yeah yes yes yes yes year before
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last and there's actually a pretty nice
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eight with a kicker on a G2 it's very
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similar to him here behind the house on
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this property I got here that he don't
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want to come into the antlers this
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evening when I go out there to to hun
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he'll get it well let's get let's get
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talking about the coyot that's the
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reason everybody's listening in and and
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you know you you kind of alluded to it
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earlier the reason why but Gage you know
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I know you started out daytime KY
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hunting because that's all that Kentucky
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allowed for the longest time was daytime
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only oh yeah but what what actually got
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you in tonight hunting I know you said
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you you know you started a new
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profession well it was the same
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profession but you actually went out on
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your own with your own shop and you
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mentioned about the kids and stuff you
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might talk about that a little bit more
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why why you actually got into night
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hunting so when Kentucky came out where
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they were starting to kind of put a
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feeler out there that there was going to
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be a night season I mean obviously if
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you didn't have the guarantee that we
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were going to have a night season the
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money that you dump into this sport you
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know you you didn't want to spend it but
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once they kind of started talking about
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it me and a really good friend of mine
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Andy who also has young kids we kind of
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talked about like man that would be
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really convenient for both of us um
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because you know one of the big reasons
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we were able to Bow fish so much was
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because you know when you're doing that
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the family's pretty much already asleep
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and you've done everything you were
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going to do for the day um and then I
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started my business and was very
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fortunate the the first year that I
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started my business I had a real good
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guy named Luke worked for me John's met
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him before and um he was able you know I
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did I I was able to get out on mornings
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and make stands and stuff but then we
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just got overwhelmed with work and it
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kind of started Weighing on me I
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wouldn't get to make as many cowch
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stands as I wanted to and so they
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brought in that night season and I
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literally uh as funny as it sounds I
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went to the local hardware store to buy
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a chainsaw the fellow that owns our
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local hardware store um is a big big gun
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guy and I had my remote around my neck
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um had just made a couple stands that
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morning and he said well what do you
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think about this new night season I said
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well I'm actually looking to get into it
0:10:50.839,0:10:55.600
I think it would be great you know we um
0:10:54.079,0:10:57.240
at the time when it started it was just
0:10:55.600,0:10:59.560
Fisher and Archer we've since had our
0:10:57.240,0:11:01.120
third but um I was like man you know
0:10:59.560,0:11:03.639
it'd be good I can go to all the kids
0:11:01.120,0:11:05.800
stuff on Saturday mornings and you know
0:11:03.639,0:11:08.079
get away from that and still be able to
0:11:05.800,0:11:09.440
get as many stands as I want in and I
0:11:08.079,0:11:11.000
said I think it'll be a good thing he
0:11:09.440,0:11:13.320
said well I've got a thermal I'd like to
0:11:11.000,0:11:14.519
sell you and I just kind of laughed
0:11:13.320,0:11:17.720
about it I was like well I went in to
0:11:14.519,0:11:20.200
buy a chainsaw you know right and um
0:11:17.720,0:11:21.680
anyway we got kind of kicking back and
0:11:20.200,0:11:23.680
forth there and he ended up it's
0:11:21.680,0:11:27.839
actually the thermal I still run to this
0:11:23.680,0:11:30.560
day um it was a a Trijicon that he had
0:11:27.839,0:11:32.279
and we made a pretty good deal on it and
0:11:30.560,0:11:34.519
the season came in about three weeks
0:11:32.279,0:11:36.440
after that I went out and you know
0:11:34.519,0:11:38.839
there's a lot of people like I say it's
0:11:36.440,0:11:40.720
kind of like the whole bow hunting
0:11:38.839,0:11:42.680
versus gun hunting and public land
0:11:40.720,0:11:44.120
hunting versus you know private ground
0:11:42.680,0:11:47.440
and stuff you know we've had those
0:11:44.120,0:11:49.880
conversations before but you know it was
0:11:47.440,0:11:53.000
fun I had a blast and you know I was
0:11:49.880,0:11:54.760
able to U go out and do the things that
0:11:53.000,0:11:57.440
I wanted to do and still go get a few
0:11:54.760,0:12:00.519
stands in and not long after that my
0:11:57.440,0:12:02.639
buddy Andy he ended up by find one and
0:12:00.519,0:12:04.360
uh our first year don't get me wrong the
0:12:02.639,0:12:07.200
people that are going to kick back and
0:12:04.360,0:12:09.800
say that uh nighttime hunting is way way
0:12:07.200,0:12:12.360
easier it's way easier to call coyotes
0:12:09.800,0:12:15.800
in but there's a whole different tactic
0:12:12.360,0:12:17.519
to doing it and um and we ended up being
0:12:15.800,0:12:19.120
fortunate and getting you know pretty
0:12:17.519,0:12:21.320
familiar with it pretty quick and and
0:12:19.120,0:12:23.720
we've had a good run at it right right
0:12:21.320,0:12:26.000
kind of like what we said about bait and
0:12:23.720,0:12:27.480
deer it sounds like it should be easier
0:12:26.000,0:12:30.519
and a lot of times it can be a lot
0:12:27.480,0:12:33.720
easier but uh yeah there's more to it
0:12:30.519,0:12:35.240
than what people realize that's like I
0:12:33.720,0:12:37.199
said like I said earlier it gives you
0:12:35.240,0:12:38.440
more more opportunities to be out there
0:12:37.199,0:12:41.839
in the field and that's what it's all
0:12:38.440,0:12:43.320
about now last season now you said it
0:12:41.839,0:12:44.880
took you a while to kind of get in ag
0:12:43.320,0:12:47.360
Grove with things I think you caught on
0:12:44.880,0:12:48.880
to it pretty quick speaking of last
0:12:47.360,0:12:51.279
season you and a couple of your Hunting
0:12:48.880,0:12:54.560
Buddies I think Andy was one of them
0:12:51.279,0:12:57.880
yeah y'all had a couple nights of pretty
0:12:54.560,0:13:01.760
epic nighttime KY coling what was it 29
0:12:57.880,0:13:03.519
coyes Dropped In 38 stands yep it was
0:13:01.760,0:13:05.680
probably two of the best nights of Colin
0:13:03.519,0:13:07.519
I've ever had in my entire life I me
0:13:05.680,0:13:10.600
tell us tell us about a little bit tell
0:13:07.519,0:13:12.279
us how you know what the whole deal was
0:13:10.600,0:13:13.959
I know you kind of planned it out you
0:13:12.279,0:13:15.720
know got them two together and said hey
0:13:13.959,0:13:17.399
you know I got a goal I want to meet
0:13:15.720,0:13:20.120
let's see what we can make happen tell
0:13:17.399,0:13:22.320
us tell us a little bit about it yeah so
0:13:20.120,0:13:25.600
that's really how it started um the
0:13:22.320,0:13:27.800
first year we got into night calling um
0:13:25.600,0:13:29.600
I got a real good buddy named Luke jarbo
0:13:27.800,0:13:32.000
he lives a couple hours away from me and
0:13:29.600,0:13:35.279
Andy he just lives a couple minutes but
0:13:32.000,0:13:37.560
we um we all night hunt together and
0:13:35.279,0:13:39.839
Luke came up the first year and honestly
0:13:37.560,0:13:42.000
we didn't do great at all the Couts were
0:13:39.839,0:13:43.959
pretty tough and you know we still
0:13:42.000,0:13:46.440
killed I want to say it was either 11 or
0:13:43.959,0:13:48.519
13 in the two nights but you know we
0:13:46.440,0:13:50.360
really didn't hit that out of the park
0:13:48.519,0:13:53.120
goal that I was wanting to and just kind
0:13:50.360,0:13:55.480
of had a tough run at it and so this
0:13:53.120,0:13:58.040
well it was past season as night season
0:13:55.480,0:13:59.839
was coming up I was kind of telling Andy
0:13:58.040,0:14:02.959
and Luke I was like like man you know I
0:13:59.839,0:14:04.360
got a goal that I want to hit and uh I
0:14:02.959,0:14:06.040
kept telling them I said man if we could
0:14:04.360,0:14:07.519
get 20 I would be happy I said but I
0:14:06.040,0:14:10.519
want to go a little higher than that and
0:14:07.519,0:14:13.240
I really think we can do it well as it
0:14:10.519,0:14:14.959
fell Andy Works a swing shift and Luke
0:14:13.240,0:14:16.920
you know he's got to put in vacation
0:14:14.959,0:14:18.920
because we were going to do it either a
0:14:16.920,0:14:21.880
weekend that worked out or just when the
0:14:18.920,0:14:24.160
weather was right and so um you know
0:14:21.880,0:14:26.000
fortunately all of us you know me
0:14:24.160,0:14:28.920
working for myself was easy for me but
0:14:26.000,0:14:31.920
they had it pretty lenient as well and
0:14:28.920,0:14:34.000
actually ended up moving this date twice
0:14:31.920,0:14:35.480
once for weather and then once to be
0:14:34.000,0:14:39.759
honest with you I completely forgot it
0:14:35.480,0:14:44.120
was my uh wife's Christmas party for her
0:14:39.759,0:14:46.759
work I think gotta left it oh yeah so I
0:14:44.120,0:14:50.880
I got a well it was either leave it or
0:14:46.759,0:14:53.759
uh you know get left so yeah and so
0:14:50.880,0:14:56.399
anyway we ended up settling um on the
0:14:53.759,0:14:58.440
27th of December was a little bit later
0:14:56.399,0:15:02.440
in the year but if you remember last
0:14:58.440,0:15:04.040
year we had that insane code snap yep um
0:15:02.440,0:15:08.279
right there like the 15th through the
0:15:04.040,0:15:10.800
20th last year and it honestly set the
0:15:08.279,0:15:14.120
stage up for probably the best KY
0:15:10.800,0:15:17.800
calling you could ever have and um I had
0:15:14.120,0:15:20.320
been planning this for honestly
0:15:17.800,0:15:22.920
probably two or three months I mean as
0:15:20.320,0:15:24.040
far as it wasn't so much the what sounds
0:15:22.920,0:15:27.920
are we going to play and where we going
0:15:24.040,0:15:29.839
to set up it was to get that many stands
0:15:27.920,0:15:31.720
together in ucky is kind of tough and
0:15:29.839,0:15:35.560
you got to had a bunch of ground that's
0:15:31.720,0:15:37.680
lumped together right and that was the
0:15:35.560,0:15:40.399
biggest hurdle for playing that hunt was
0:15:37.680,0:15:43.160
just having enough Farms that were
0:15:40.399,0:15:45.279
within you know x amount of distance
0:15:43.160,0:15:48.079
that you could get in make a stand and
0:15:45.279,0:15:50.720
get out and you know go to the next one
0:15:48.079,0:15:53.079
and we were super fortunate I mean you
0:15:50.720,0:15:54.880
know all those coyes everybody thinks
0:15:53.079,0:15:58.319
that we must have covered 100 miles to
0:15:54.880,0:16:00.079
do that we literally both nights we one
0:15:58.319,0:16:01.319
night we went towards the Shelby County
0:16:00.079,0:16:03.880
way and the other night was the Henry
0:16:01.319,0:16:06.839
County way and you know we were never
0:16:03.880,0:16:10.600
more than 10 to 15 miles from my house
0:16:06.839,0:16:12.759
at any given time and so that made it
0:16:10.600,0:16:15.920
super successful because we had all this
0:16:12.759,0:16:18.360
land um that was first off easily
0:16:15.920,0:16:20.000
accessible and then second off you know
0:16:18.360,0:16:22.120
we could get to the next stand quick
0:16:20.000,0:16:24.120
enough to where we could just keep going
0:16:22.120,0:16:27.319
and grind through the night and it
0:16:24.120,0:16:28.759
worked out it def definitely worked out
0:16:27.319,0:16:30.800
and kind of going back what you said
0:16:28.759,0:16:33.440
about uh putting the ground together
0:16:30.800,0:16:35.759
that's one thing that maybe you know
0:16:33.440,0:16:38.199
some people might not realize in certain
0:16:35.759,0:16:40.959
States and certain areas there's not
0:16:38.199,0:16:43.560
huge tracks of public ground that you
0:16:40.959,0:16:46.199
can just go hunt or get a hold of these
0:16:43.560,0:16:48.639
land owners it's just got thousands and
0:16:46.199,0:16:51.000
thousands of Acres now we do have some
0:16:48.639,0:16:53.399
big big you know some land owners that
0:16:51.000,0:16:55.000
have big ground but we have a lot of
0:16:53.399,0:16:58.079
small acreage land owners here in
0:16:55.000,0:17:00.399
Kentucky there's a lot tons of 40 and 60
0:16:58.079,0:17:03.240
and 80 acre pieces 100 Acre pieces and
0:17:00.399,0:17:04.720
you got to you know it's U it can be
0:17:03.240,0:17:06.640
tough to string together a lot of ground
0:17:04.720,0:17:09.760
to go hunt at
0:17:06.640,0:17:11.760
times it yeah I mean that that honestly
0:17:09.760,0:17:14.679
out of everything was the biggest hurdle
0:17:11.760,0:17:17.919
because you know we actually that second
0:17:14.679,0:17:19.959
night when we hit 29 the 29th coyote was
0:17:17.919,0:17:21.799
actually killed behind my house
0:17:19.959,0:17:24.319
literally in the field that's directly
0:17:21.799,0:17:27.000
behind my house we got back here because
0:17:24.319,0:17:30.360
we were completely out of ground that
0:17:27.000,0:17:32.760
was Clos linked and um we kind of we
0:17:30.360,0:17:34.640
were dog tired but we kind of were
0:17:32.760,0:17:36.919
tossing around the idea of switching
0:17:34.640,0:17:39.120
everything over to the pickup truck and
0:17:36.919,0:17:40.600
running um further into Shelby County
0:17:39.120,0:17:43.240
and getting on some other stands and
0:17:40.600,0:17:44.160
then we all just decided like man we are
0:17:43.240,0:17:47.520
we're
0:17:44.160,0:17:49.919
dead yeah we are spent um we actually
0:17:47.520,0:17:54.280
ended that night it was probably about
0:17:49.919,0:17:56.640
three three or so in the morning um but
0:17:54.280,0:17:59.159
now with the way it fell you know that
0:17:56.640,0:18:01.679
time of year gets dark pretty early
0:17:59.159,0:18:03.640
and the first night of that hunt we
0:18:01.679,0:18:07.559
actually killed 17 of those coats the
0:18:03.640,0:18:11.039
first night and um the first I guess it
0:18:07.559,0:18:13.039
was six stands we went six for six until
0:18:11.039,0:18:17.320
the sixth stand we missed a pretty easy
0:18:13.039,0:18:20.720
one um yeah we actually uh I want to say
0:18:17.320,0:18:22.480
we had five five misses that were pretty
0:18:20.720,0:18:25.240
much like come on man how'd you miss
0:18:22.480,0:18:28.960
that you know right and heck I think out
0:18:25.240,0:18:31.159
of the five three of them were me um but
0:18:28.960,0:18:34.799
uh but you know it was just one of those
0:18:31.159,0:18:37.159
things man you get so it was work to be
0:18:34.799,0:18:38.840
honest with you it was it was work and
0:18:37.159,0:18:41.159
when we got there towards the end of the
0:18:38.840,0:18:44.000
night on both nights it was just I was
0:18:41.159,0:18:47.480
exhausted I I know I'd been I'd have
0:18:44.000,0:18:50.080
been done after the first night but any
0:18:47.480,0:18:53.039
what what do you consider what was the
0:18:50.080,0:18:55.919
number one Factor besides for the you
0:18:53.039,0:18:57.520
know the coyotes calling good uh that
0:18:55.919,0:18:59.200
you know made you all have such a
0:18:57.520,0:19:02.400
successful cup nights what was the
0:18:59.200,0:19:06.120
number one factor that made that uh pay
0:19:02.400,0:19:08.640
off well first off awesome sounds uh
0:19:06.120,0:19:12.039
that we literally so I'm a big vocal
0:19:08.640,0:19:13.880
only at night guy um I don't play any
0:19:12.039,0:19:15.240
prey distress at night or anything like
0:19:13.880,0:19:17.520
that I know and there's a million
0:19:15.240,0:19:20.280
opinions that you know this guy plays
0:19:17.520,0:19:22.640
this this guy plays that I'm strictly
0:19:20.280,0:19:24.840
vocals at night um I feel like your
0:19:22.640,0:19:26.559
responses are a lot quicker um your
0:19:24.840,0:19:28.720
stands are a lot shorter and that was
0:19:26.559,0:19:31.159
the name of the game for us you know we
0:19:28.720,0:19:33.720
were trying to keep every stand we made
0:19:31.159,0:19:36.640
Under 12 minutes I mean just you know
0:19:33.720,0:19:39.200
burn through and go the next one and so
0:19:36.640,0:19:42.080
um that was a huge factor is just having
0:19:39.200,0:19:44.400
great sounds that cows responded well to
0:19:42.080,0:19:46.600
but another factor that I'll back on to
0:19:44.400,0:19:49.360
that as well is right after that big
0:19:46.600,0:19:51.400
cold snap it was kind of The Perfect
0:19:49.360,0:19:54.000
Storm because that cold snap and that
0:19:51.400,0:19:56.559
breeding kind of time fell right on top
0:19:54.000,0:19:58.480
of each other and so you already had a
0:19:56.559,0:19:59.840
lot of Cs that were already super Pro
0:19:58.480,0:20:02.120
active and then when we went in there
0:19:59.840,0:20:05.200
throwing fight sounds and distresses at
0:20:02.120,0:20:07.440
them most of our stands any stand that
0:20:05.200,0:20:10.480
was successful I would say was done and
0:20:07.440,0:20:12.640
over with within six minutes awesome so
0:20:10.480,0:20:16.000
you had you had great sounds to work
0:20:12.640,0:20:18.840
with of course you had good weather and
0:20:16.000,0:20:20.880
the timing was just right plus one thing
0:20:18.840,0:20:23.280
you didn't mention which I I know has
0:20:20.880,0:20:25.080
got to be a huge factor is is the
0:20:23.280,0:20:26.960
scheduling of it the planning out of
0:20:25.080,0:20:29.360
your St had to be I mean because you
0:20:26.960,0:20:31.440
just can't just go anywhere and just
0:20:29.360,0:20:34.760
expect to string together 30
0:20:31.440,0:20:37.840
coyotes well no and so the scheduling
0:20:34.760,0:20:40.520
thing yes that was probably the that was
0:20:37.840,0:20:41.919
the hardest part of the hunt um and
0:20:40.520,0:20:43.760
another thing a lot of people didn't
0:20:41.919,0:20:45.080
realize too probably there is they
0:20:43.760,0:20:47.720
probably thought that every single one
0:20:45.080,0:20:49.200
of those couchs was located I'm very
0:20:47.720,0:20:51.080
fortunate that I've called a lot of the
0:20:49.200,0:20:52.840
ground that I have a long time kind of
0:20:51.080,0:20:55.159
like you you know you you've got Farms
0:20:52.840,0:20:57.679
that you've called since the beginning
0:20:55.159,0:21:00.720
um and so it's kind of one of those
0:20:57.679,0:21:04.240
things the only Farms that I located on
0:21:00.720,0:21:06.520
were Farms that were you know maybe not
0:21:04.240,0:21:09.000
new but neish to where I couldn't
0:21:06.520,0:21:10.679
guarantee where the coow was going to be
0:21:09.000,0:21:12.360
but there was other Farms that you know
0:21:10.679,0:21:14.159
we kind of planned out that it was just
0:21:12.360,0:21:15.440
going to be like well yeah the coops are
0:21:14.159,0:21:18.120
going to be here whether we can call
0:21:15.440,0:21:20.480
them out or not is going to be tough and
0:21:18.120,0:21:22.360
also not only having the farm strung
0:21:20.480,0:21:25.400
together in the planting but then
0:21:22.360,0:21:28.320
knowing where to set up on the farm to
0:21:25.400,0:21:31.080
make the same wind direction work for 30
0:21:28.320,0:21:35.080
stands right basically yeah yeah for
0:21:31.080,0:21:38.919
sure and so I'll tell you the biggest
0:21:35.080,0:21:41.360
tool um I mean you know obviously we
0:21:38.919,0:21:44.640
used our calls were quality our guns
0:21:41.360,0:21:47.559
were quality all that stuff but I have a
0:21:44.640,0:21:49.400
side by side and that was probably the
0:21:47.559,0:21:51.440
single biggest tool that allowed us to
0:21:49.400,0:21:55.120
get in and out of stands very very
0:21:51.440,0:21:56.720
quickly yep y um and that was you know
0:21:55.120,0:21:59.200
there was some guys that could have done
0:21:56.720,0:22:02.320
that same route that same hunt the same
0:21:59.200,0:22:05.480
couchs the same calls and might not have
0:22:02.320,0:22:07.799
killed as many just because we we were
0:22:05.480,0:22:09.400
able to access so much deeper and get
0:22:07.799,0:22:11.600
right on top of these couch you know you
0:22:09.400,0:22:13.159
see a lot of guys that night call and
0:22:11.600,0:22:16.039
they want to watch these couchs run in
0:22:13.159,0:22:17.760
from a thousand yards out I was calling
0:22:16.039,0:22:19.240
it like we were daytime calling if I
0:22:17.760,0:22:21.640
knew where the cowch was we was getting
0:22:19.240,0:22:24.039
on top of them three 400 yards from
0:22:21.640,0:22:27.159
where these cows were so we could make
0:22:24.039,0:22:29.720
these stands a lot faster paced right
0:22:27.159,0:22:31.760
right now man ask you this out of all 20
0:22:29.720,0:22:33.400
out of the 29 coyes were every single
0:22:31.760,0:22:35.600
one of them called in or did you have
0:22:33.400,0:22:37.320
some where y'all just you know glassed
0:22:35.600,0:22:39.000
them up with the scanner or whatever so
0:22:37.320,0:22:41.679
how shoot that one were they all called
0:22:39.000,0:22:44.000
or did you have some freebies no but
0:22:41.679,0:22:46.840
every single Cy was called to um there
0:22:44.000,0:22:50.039
was no volunteers there was one stand in
0:22:46.840,0:22:52.080
particular that we rolled in and I still
0:22:50.039,0:22:55.279
to this day have never seen a Coy in
0:22:52.080,0:22:57.640
Kentucky travel this far um but when we
0:22:55.279,0:23:00.039
first scanned the field when we set up
0:22:57.640,0:23:02.279
there was was three cows that were like
0:23:00.039,0:23:03.679
three4 of a mile out like in a thermal
0:23:02.279,0:23:04.840
it just looked like dots but you knew
0:23:03.679,0:23:07.679
what they were because they started
0:23:04.840,0:23:10.080
howling back yep and um technically
0:23:07.679,0:23:11.799
those cows were already in the field and
0:23:10.080,0:23:14.120
then we had one other stand that the
0:23:11.799,0:23:16.600
cows lit up as we were unpacking and
0:23:14.120,0:23:19.559
getting out of the Ranger um but other
0:23:16.600,0:23:22.320
than that every cow was gone in threw
0:23:19.559,0:23:24.640
vocals at it got set up and called
0:23:22.320,0:23:25.960
awesome awesome let's uh let's talk
0:23:24.640,0:23:28.039
about equipment a little bit you don't
0:23:25.960,0:23:30.799
have we don't have to say any kind of
0:23:28.039,0:23:33.760
brands or nothing like that but in your
0:23:30.799,0:23:35.600
eyes what is the essential gear that a
0:23:33.760,0:23:37.880
KN Hunter needs to go out there and
0:23:35.600,0:23:42.120
start to hammer and
0:23:37.880,0:23:44.799
coyes as far as in my opinion uh
0:23:42.120,0:23:47.120
essential gear you know I'm not going to
0:23:44.799,0:23:50.120
be one of those guys that really harps
0:23:47.120,0:23:52.559
on brand names because I mean there was
0:23:50.120,0:23:54.840
two guys you know everybody talks about
0:23:52.559,0:23:57.159
what tripod to run and what specific
0:23:54.840,0:23:59.520
brand name gun to run you're never going
0:23:57.159,0:24:02.679
to hear me say say that about most
0:23:59.520,0:24:04.960
anything just because you know from a
0:24:02.679,0:24:06.480
well just like you know you take you
0:24:04.960,0:24:09.080
you're one of the best shots I've ever
0:24:06.480,0:24:11.080
seen on a couch stand and I could give
0:24:09.080,0:24:12.720
you a Walmart rifle or I could give you
0:24:11.080,0:24:13.919
the highest end Ruger that they make and
0:24:12.720,0:24:17.080
I know that you're going to make that
0:24:13.919,0:24:19.480
shot for me you know what I mean and um
0:24:17.080,0:24:21.520
and that's how kind of like how Andy is
0:24:19.480,0:24:22.960
so the first thing that I would say
0:24:21.520,0:24:24.559
that's important for night Colin is
0:24:22.960,0:24:27.240
having the group of buddies that you
0:24:24.559,0:24:28.880
hunt with being able to communicate good
0:24:27.240,0:24:30.559
with them and I know that's overlooked
0:24:28.880,0:24:34.120
and it's not actually a physical piece
0:24:30.559,0:24:36.240
of equipment but communication at night
0:24:34.120,0:24:37.960
is everything I don't care what brand
0:24:36.240,0:24:40.600
thermal you're running or you know if
0:24:37.960,0:24:42.120
you're a night vision guy communication
0:24:40.600,0:24:43.679
is the hardest thing because when you're
0:24:42.120,0:24:47.240
looking through a thermal and you've got
0:24:43.679,0:24:49.200
that small window that you're viewing um
0:24:47.240,0:24:51.120
I mean your buddy might not be seeing
0:24:49.200,0:24:53.720
the same thing you are so you need to be
0:24:51.120,0:24:55.919
able to communicate and especially on
0:24:53.720,0:24:58.080
you know triples and doubles quads
0:24:55.919,0:24:59.840
whatever things like that there's a lot
0:24:58.080,0:25:04.159
of communication that goes into play
0:24:59.840,0:25:08.240
there um as far as Optics wise I would
0:25:04.159,0:25:10.080
always lean you more towards a 640 unit
0:25:08.240,0:25:12.679
um as far as Brands go there's a lot of
0:25:10.080,0:25:14.200
great Brands out there um I'm not going
0:25:12.679,0:25:16.039
to lean on any one of them but
0:25:14.200,0:25:18.679
definitely I would try to stick with a
0:25:16.039,0:25:20.720
640 unit if it's in budget but if it's
0:25:18.679,0:25:24.880
not man these companies are coming out
0:25:20.720,0:25:27.200
with some great you know uh 320s 38s
0:25:24.880,0:25:29.080
that in Kentucky realistically The
0:25:27.200,0:25:31.600
Thermals outperform the guy pulling the
0:25:29.080,0:25:34.919
trigger you know what I mean right right
0:25:31.600,0:25:36.919
and uh you know there's no mix up of ID
0:25:34.919,0:25:39.880
and things and you know it's not like oh
0:25:36.919,0:25:43.000
that deer's a cow you know it's a you
0:25:39.880,0:25:45.039
know a good optic definitely helps and
0:25:43.000,0:25:47.520
you know a good call and I've been
0:25:45.039,0:25:50.159
fortunate to run great calls for quite
0:25:47.520,0:25:51.600
some time now I've been a uh I've ran
0:25:50.159,0:25:55.919
Fox Pro calls
0:25:51.600,0:25:57.799
forever and man you know like I say I
0:25:55.919,0:26:01.000
know you said not to harp on brand names
0:25:57.799,0:26:04.080
but the vocalizations that we have
0:26:01.000,0:26:06.279
available to us now is just insane the
0:26:04.080,0:26:08.640
way you can communicate with these cows
0:26:06.279,0:26:11.360
and I I have nothing good but to say
0:26:08.640,0:26:13.240
about that I mean a good call no matter
0:26:11.360,0:26:16.559
what brand you're going to lean on a
0:26:13.240,0:26:19.039
good call goes a long way right well you
0:26:16.559,0:26:20.360
can hey you can talk about our brand all
0:26:19.039,0:26:23.919
you
0:26:20.360,0:26:26.600
want I mean it doesn't get any you know
0:26:23.919,0:26:28.240
it doesn't get any better I mean so in
0:26:26.600,0:26:29.919
that big night hunt
0:26:28.240,0:26:32.520
you know everybody thinks you need this
0:26:29.919,0:26:34.799
huge plethora of sounds and I mean is
0:26:32.520,0:26:36.919
there times that it's great sure but a
0:26:34.799,0:26:38.559
lot of people you know and I was very
0:26:36.919,0:26:41.520
open with this when you know that post
0:26:38.559,0:26:44.600
kind of blew up or whatever we used like
0:26:41.520,0:26:46.600
six sounds that whole you know all 30 of
0:26:44.600,0:26:49.760
those cows and I mean I can still tell
0:26:46.600,0:26:51.640
you the exact sounds that it was I mean
0:26:49.760,0:26:53.600
every single stand we went in and
0:26:51.640,0:26:56.880
started off with camir lonely house it's
0:26:53.600,0:26:59.159
an mfk sound and it's amazing yep um for
0:26:56.880,0:27:01.039
vocalization that time of year if
0:26:59.159,0:27:04.559
there's a Coy in the area chances are
0:27:01.039,0:27:07.919
he's going to answer to that um then I
0:27:04.559,0:27:10.559
would go into fre female breeding growls
0:27:07.919,0:27:13.000
um didn't play that super long just kind
0:27:10.559,0:27:15.840
of you know just enough to kind of spice
0:27:13.000,0:27:17.600
it up there and went into bump and grind
0:27:15.840,0:27:19.600
and for that time of year I would play
0:27:17.600,0:27:21.679
female breeding growls for maybe 20
0:27:19.600,0:27:25.159
seconds and no pause just go straight
0:27:21.679,0:27:27.640
into that uh bump and grind and to be
0:27:25.159,0:27:30.960
honest with you that specific week a lot
0:27:27.640,0:27:33.840
lot of Couts showed up on that right
0:27:30.960,0:27:37.200
there um if they didn't I would pause
0:27:33.840,0:27:39.279
for about a minute and this will go down
0:27:37.200,0:27:42.679
forever in my life my favorite sound in
0:27:39.279,0:27:45.039
the world is Fox Pros pup three yep that
0:27:42.679,0:27:47.960
sound has it's killed more cow than any
0:27:45.039,0:27:50.720
sound on the planet I mean it just has
0:27:47.960,0:27:53.399
um but now I would follow up pup three
0:27:50.720,0:27:55.200
with pound town and that is starting to
0:27:53.399,0:27:58.159
be one of I mean we just killed a cow
0:27:55.200,0:27:59.799
yesterday morning 19 minutes in in on
0:27:58.159,0:28:02.640
pound town I mean you know kind of threw
0:27:59.799,0:28:05.880
the book at him and and that sound has
0:28:02.640,0:28:07.679
more than once proved that it's it's on
0:28:05.880,0:28:09.240
that you know just pup three level of
0:28:07.679,0:28:12.799
getting that cow's attention and getting
0:28:09.240,0:28:14.960
that cow to break and so um that and
0:28:12.799,0:28:16.600
then you know finished up the end of the
0:28:14.960,0:28:20.799
stand pretty simple a little bit of
0:28:16.600,0:28:23.760
female sub and uh sound called BMF fight
0:28:20.799,0:28:25.919
and if those cops didn't show up on that
0:28:23.760,0:28:29.320
they weren't showing up just you know in
0:28:25.919,0:28:31.880
that particular weekend right right and
0:28:29.320,0:28:34.279
um you know I ran that same sequence
0:28:31.880,0:28:35.880
clear through February um if we're
0:28:34.279,0:28:38.440
getting down to it just because I was so
0:28:35.880,0:28:40.360
comfortable they were on the presets and
0:28:38.440,0:28:41.679
you know at night that's a big thing you
0:28:40.360,0:28:45.039
want to be able to run that remote
0:28:41.679,0:28:48.159
without looking at it and um we had a
0:28:45.039,0:28:51.120
lot of success off a super simple um
0:28:48.159,0:28:54.760
list of sounds um some other notable
0:28:51.120,0:28:57.880
things um young coyote how from Fox Pro
0:28:54.760,0:29:02.240
Y that is a great get you answered back
0:28:57.880,0:29:04.720
sound I mean love that sound to death um
0:29:02.240,0:29:08.320
and like this time of year um even
0:29:04.720,0:29:11.080
though it some people may not uh Cy pup
0:29:08.320,0:29:12.799
314 uh just the growls that that sound
0:29:11.080,0:29:15.200
starts out with and then going into the
0:29:12.799,0:29:18.440
stress the Cadence is just about perfect
0:29:15.200,0:29:21.640
for that attention grabber right right
0:29:18.440,0:29:22.919
and uh I really love that sound um
0:29:21.640,0:29:24.840
there's a lot of other sounds that you
0:29:22.919,0:29:27.919
can throw in there and mix up I mean
0:29:24.840,0:29:30.279
both Fox Pro and mfk libraries it's
0:29:27.919,0:29:32.720
it's amazing I mean there's there is no
0:29:30.279,0:29:34.320
better Library well so I mean that
0:29:32.720,0:29:36.080
pretty much sums it up you need
0:29:34.320,0:29:37.880
something where you can see it night as
0:29:36.080,0:29:40.159
far as equipment goes you need a good
0:29:37.880,0:29:42.799
good call what's better than the fox Pro
0:29:40.159,0:29:45.039
x24 that's out right now is probably the
0:29:42.799,0:29:48.159
best that's what unit you're running uh
0:29:45.039,0:29:50.919
and great sounds Fox Pro and mfk Library
0:29:48.159,0:29:52.960
um what I'm sure you guys you mentioned
0:29:50.919,0:29:55.399
before you like run a tripod shooting
0:29:52.960,0:29:58.440
system right you know for
0:29:55.399,0:30:00.519
time yep y let's talk about what about
0:29:58.440,0:30:02.440
shooting platforms what what type of
0:30:00.519,0:30:05.519
shooting platform do you like for night
0:30:02.440,0:30:08.919
hunting so me personally where I'm the
0:30:05.519,0:30:10.679
guy that is kind of calling the shots uh
0:30:08.919,0:30:12.600
as far as like you know when to take
0:30:10.679,0:30:16.480
them I'm running the remote and kind of
0:30:12.600,0:30:19.760
setting the stand up um I personally
0:30:16.480,0:30:21.640
like an AR platform um it's not because
0:30:19.760,0:30:24.000
I think that they're better because as
0:30:21.640,0:30:27.640
you know all my daytime guns are boat
0:30:24.000,0:30:30.640
guns um but at night the AR plat form
0:30:27.640,0:30:33.480
the one thing that it allows me to do
0:30:30.640,0:30:36.679
personally that's better um than a bolt
0:30:33.480,0:30:38.640
gun for me is I can stay in the scope
0:30:36.679,0:30:40.919
without lifting my eye or coming off of
0:30:38.640,0:30:43.559
it to change something on my remote and
0:30:40.919,0:30:45.240
I can stay on top of Couts because it's
0:30:43.559,0:30:47.480
not a big deal when the cows are coming
0:30:45.240,0:30:49.519
in and a lot of times like if I was just
0:30:47.480,0:30:51.799
telling you know Andy or Luke hey take
0:30:49.519,0:30:53.760
them I never have to click a safety off
0:30:51.799,0:30:56.440
I could shoot whatever I wanted but some
0:30:53.760,0:31:00.720
of those stands you get you know triples
0:30:56.440,0:31:03.159
quads and things like that um you know
0:31:00.720,0:31:05.519
some stands you know I'm going to call
0:31:03.159,0:31:07.679
you off you better not mag dump but some
0:31:05.519,0:31:09.159
stands if we've got big open ground and
0:31:07.679,0:31:10.760
you know we've already killed two out of
0:31:09.159,0:31:13.159
a quad and the other ones are leaving
0:31:10.760,0:31:16.159
town I'll throw some rounds I mean you
0:31:13.159,0:31:18.799
know I ain't gonna lie to you there and
0:31:16.159,0:31:21.240
um so personally for me nighttime
0:31:18.799,0:31:23.960
calling I like AR platform Luke still
0:31:21.240,0:31:26.600
runs a boat gun and he can cycle a shell
0:31:23.960,0:31:29.639
with the best of them um but the
0:31:26.600,0:31:31.120
yardages that we personally shoot uh you
0:31:29.639,0:31:34.000
know I've got some buddies that'll take
0:31:31.120,0:31:37.519
a 800 yard shot in the dark that's not
0:31:34.000,0:31:40.440
us every C that we kills most likely I'd
0:31:37.519,0:31:43.880
say 99.9% of the cows are going to be
0:31:40.440,0:31:46.080
under 250 right and um and that's just
0:31:43.880,0:31:47.720
kind of that's I don't like taking long
0:31:46.080,0:31:49.960
shots because you got to go get them I
0:31:47.720,0:31:51.840
mean the further out you you one the
0:31:49.960,0:31:54.000
further you got to walk right yeah I
0:31:51.840,0:31:55.440
don't I ain't trying to kill one at 400
0:31:54.000,0:31:57.399
yards man I ain't trying to walk that
0:31:55.440,0:32:00.080
far that's the reason we got to those
0:31:57.399,0:32:03.000
Fox Pros they got four legs we got two
0:32:00.080,0:32:04.720
make them come to you shoot them at 50
0:32:03.000,0:32:06.960
that's exactly right and don't get me
0:32:04.720,0:32:08.600
wrong you know it's cool seeing some of
0:32:06.960,0:32:10.440
those long shots and it's really
0:32:08.600,0:32:13.880
impressive in the dark and stuff but
0:32:10.440,0:32:17.039
just for our landscape you know
0:32:13.880,0:32:19.120
geography of Henry and Shelby County and
0:32:17.039,0:32:22.600
and just our hunting style because like
0:32:19.120,0:32:24.399
I say I'll set up a stand kind of close
0:32:22.600,0:32:25.679
quarters compared to what most night now
0:32:24.399,0:32:27.480
don't get me wrong I mean I'm not
0:32:25.679,0:32:29.799
setting up as tight maybe as I would
0:32:27.480,0:32:31.679
daytime but not a whole lot different
0:32:29.799,0:32:33.679
you know I'm I want to be in there
0:32:31.679,0:32:35.519
because I don't want this big long
0:32:33.679,0:32:37.679
stretched out reaction I don't want to
0:32:35.519,0:32:40.240
watch him for you know if you got one of
0:32:37.679,0:32:43.240
those shy cows that wants to Mose in and
0:32:40.240,0:32:45.039
take his time U I feel like the more
0:32:43.240,0:32:46.679
field you got to watch him coming in
0:32:45.039,0:32:49.720
it's just more time for it to mess up in
0:32:46.679,0:32:51.760
the dark so right right I just I like
0:32:49.720,0:32:54.679
those tight stands and and for me
0:32:51.760,0:32:58.200
personally I do I like an AR platform
0:32:54.679,0:33:00.919
rifle um I shot a bolt gun um the first
0:32:58.200,0:33:04.120
year I got into it I was actually one of
0:33:00.919,0:33:06.840
your old rifles but I ran that rifle I
0:33:04.120,0:33:09.080
had no problems with killing but one
0:33:06.840,0:33:12.639
thing I would notice is you know say we
0:33:09.080,0:33:15.480
had a a side by-side pair come in we
0:33:12.639,0:33:17.799
shot one of us missed I'm trying to
0:33:15.480,0:33:20.200
eject around get back on the remote on
0:33:17.799,0:33:22.880
the hot button stay track in a thermal
0:33:20.200,0:33:25.600
and it just you know it was a little too
0:33:22.880,0:33:27.159
busy for me and now it's as simple you
0:33:25.600,0:33:30.399
know as clicking the safety off and pull
0:33:27.159,0:33:32.480
on the trigger so um it's never going to
0:33:30.399,0:33:35.240
you know Andy he's a big AR guy when
0:33:32.480,0:33:38.720
Andy daytime hunts he hunts with an AR
0:33:35.240,0:33:40.279
platform day and night um I'm strictly a
0:33:38.720,0:33:43.519
bolt gun guy in the day just because
0:33:40.279,0:33:45.679
it's what I personally like right um and
0:33:43.519,0:33:47.960
I mean my AR that I have I love it it's
0:33:45.679,0:33:51.919
one of the greatest guns I've ever fired
0:33:47.960,0:33:53.720
and um it truly is an amazing gun but
0:33:51.919,0:33:55.720
it's just you know in the day I'm still
0:33:53.720,0:33:59.320
going to grab one of my boat guns and go
0:33:55.720,0:34:01.279
right what about is there any do you shy
0:33:59.320,0:34:03.279
away from any calibers at night I mean
0:34:01.279,0:34:06.519
is there is there you know what's your
0:34:03.279,0:34:11.359
caliber of choice for night hunting I
0:34:06.519,0:34:14.079
run a 22 250 um it will I've I've got
0:34:11.359,0:34:15.879
every about every coyoty cartridge or
0:34:14.079,0:34:19.240
caliber that you could probably name off
0:34:15.879,0:34:22.520
I probably own one and um there aren't
0:34:19.240,0:34:25.240
many out there for my shooting Styles
0:34:22.520,0:34:27.839
and distances that I shoot that will
0:34:25.240,0:34:30.359
outperform the 22 250
0:34:27.839,0:34:32.359
um I'm a firm believer whether people
0:34:30.359,0:34:35.040
want to agree with it or not that under
0:34:32.359,0:34:37.560
300 yards there's not a coyote caliber
0:34:35.040,0:34:40.200
that performs better than a 22 250 well
0:34:37.560,0:34:42.679
you you know you know I like the 250 so
0:34:40.200,0:34:45.200
no I you a get no arguments for
0:34:42.679,0:34:47.839
me and and that might ruffle some
0:34:45.200,0:34:50.760
feathers but it that's I mean just for
0:34:47.839,0:34:54.760
just is what it is I've watched a lot of
0:34:50.760,0:34:57.680
cows die to a 22 250 yep yep and um you
0:34:54.760,0:34:59.839
know but we uh none of us run the same
0:34:57.680,0:35:02.680
caliber as far as my buddies that I hunt
0:34:59.839,0:35:05.359
with you know Luke runs a six Creed um
0:35:02.680,0:35:08.119
which with an 87 grain Vmax that is just
0:35:05.359,0:35:11.560
one of the most deadly uh things you can
0:35:08.119,0:35:14.119
pull a trigger on um I do I love it but
0:35:11.560,0:35:18.320
for me I just like a 250 a little better
0:35:14.119,0:35:21.079
and Andy runs an AR-15 platform in a 22
0:35:18.320,0:35:23.920
Nosler and man I was a skeptic on that
0:35:21.079,0:35:26.320
cartridge at first but Andy is my lean
0:35:23.920,0:35:27.400
on shooter I mean he's a he's a Flatout
0:35:26.320,0:35:30.760
shooter
0:35:27.400,0:35:34.200
and uh that thing with a 55 Grainer in
0:35:30.760,0:35:38.800
it I have watched it crumple cows from
0:35:34.200,0:35:40.920
five yards to 300 yards and I would say
0:35:38.800,0:35:43.520
out of all of us to be and now Andy like
0:35:40.920,0:35:46.280
I say he a great shot but I haven't seen
0:35:43.520,0:35:49.200
very many Runners at all from that round
0:35:46.280,0:35:51.000
right well good and so that's a round
0:35:49.200,0:35:52.640
that's a round i' you know I hear people
0:35:51.000,0:35:54.520
talk about it I've seen people shoot it
0:35:52.640,0:35:56.200
online and stuff but I have zero
0:35:54.520,0:35:59.000
experience with it you know one thing
0:35:56.200,0:36:03.520
it's a AR around and if anybody knows me
0:35:59.000,0:36:06.119
at all oh yeah I haven't own an AR in
0:36:03.520,0:36:09.480
23 years I think
0:36:06.119,0:36:12.319
I when I was a young very young man got
0:36:09.480,0:36:13.720
out of school I wanted a wanted a AR15
0:36:12.319,0:36:17.960
cuz I thought that was the coolest thing
0:36:13.720,0:36:20.160
ever I had two of them and I quickly got
0:36:17.960,0:36:21.760
away from them and I've been in a boat
0:36:20.160,0:36:25.040
ever since you'll see every once while
0:36:21.760,0:36:27.520
me on on Facebook or Instagram or
0:36:25.040,0:36:29.760
somewhere and you'll see hash boat gun
0:36:27.520,0:36:32.760
for life every once in a
0:36:29.760,0:36:36.160
while but but anyway Let's uh we'll move
0:36:32.760,0:36:37.520
right on what about um we got a several
0:36:36.160,0:36:40.280
questions here I want to ask you and
0:36:37.520,0:36:44.079
we've pretty much covered a lot of it
0:36:40.280,0:36:48.640
but uh what would you say is the main
0:36:44.079,0:36:50.440
difference setup wise day versus night
0:36:48.640,0:36:53.200
for for just a coou and how you're
0:36:50.440,0:36:55.680
actually going in set up I'm assuming
0:36:53.200,0:36:57.920
one thing is you're you're standing
0:36:55.680,0:37:00.040
instead of sitting is one huge thing
0:36:57.920,0:37:03.680
right oh yeah for
0:37:00.040,0:37:06.319
sure that and um I'll tell you just
0:37:03.680,0:37:08.920
point blank nighttime calling can make
0:37:06.319,0:37:08.920
you a lazy
0:37:09.200,0:37:12.599
fella because I'm serious with that side
0:37:11.800,0:37:15.880
by
0:37:12.599,0:37:17.680
side I mean we've made stands before
0:37:15.880,0:37:20.280
that you know say it was a new piece of
0:37:17.680,0:37:23.240
property or we got into or the wind
0:37:20.280,0:37:25.760
wasn't good to set up uh where it was a
0:37:23.240,0:37:27.599
good like fence row or overhanging stuff
0:37:25.760,0:37:29.880
and you take a dark night and we've
0:37:27.599,0:37:31.400
literally set up standing next to the
0:37:29.880,0:37:34.200
side by side just to break up our
0:37:31.400,0:37:35.839
silhouette and movement and you know set
0:37:34.200,0:37:38.599
up out in the middle of a cut cornfield
0:37:35.839,0:37:40.640
or something and you know put pressure
0:37:38.599,0:37:42.960
on these cows kind of set up in their
0:37:40.640,0:37:44.480
sort of tight on their bedroom and call
0:37:42.960,0:37:46.200
them out that way and we've shot them
0:37:44.480,0:37:47.520
like that now don't get me wrong once
0:37:46.200,0:37:48.920
they you know come out there in the
0:37:47.520,0:37:51.280
field and see what's going on you need
0:37:48.920,0:37:54.720
to get them killed quick but I can't say
0:37:51.280,0:37:56.720
that it wasn't a successful setup um but
0:37:54.720,0:37:58.880
the main thing it goes hand in hand with
0:37:56.720,0:38:01.720
daytime wind direction is always going
0:37:58.880,0:38:05.119
to be number one for me on Coy killing
0:38:01.720,0:38:07.160
right of course I mean they live and die
0:38:05.119,0:38:09.119
by their nose and I don't care if you
0:38:07.160,0:38:11.560
see that coyot at 800 yards or if you
0:38:09.119,0:38:13.079
don't see him till he's at 50 you watch
0:38:11.560,0:38:14.920
that coyot come in and you'll think he's
0:38:13.079,0:38:17.359
on a string and then you get him there
0:38:14.920,0:38:19.480
you know kind of in that 200 yard buffer
0:38:17.359,0:38:24.280
and he instantly starts going for that
0:38:19.480,0:38:26.720
wind and I'm a big uh at night
0:38:24.280,0:38:29.880
especially um because you can get a
0:38:26.720,0:38:33.920
sloppier at night I'll hunt I call them
0:38:29.880,0:38:36.160
cutter winds um basically where you know
0:38:33.920,0:38:38.760
my it's a not a questionable wind I know
0:38:36.160,0:38:40.960
where my wind's going but I'm kind of
0:38:38.760,0:38:42.640
set up tight to where that cow doesn't
0:38:40.960,0:38:45.680
have much of an option but to walk
0:38:42.640,0:38:47.480
through a point where it seems easy for
0:38:45.680,0:38:49.200
him to get wind but he's got to go
0:38:47.480,0:38:51.920
through three rifles to get there yeah
0:38:49.200,0:38:54.920
we we always call that cheating the wind
0:38:51.920,0:38:56.599
there you go there you go and and I kind
0:38:54.920,0:38:58.960
of you know I do that a lot in daytime
0:38:56.599,0:39:00.319
time um you know and we did it this
0:38:58.960,0:39:02.119
morning and I'll tell you it bit me in
0:39:00.319,0:39:04.599
the butt I have a mad female over in the
0:39:02.119,0:39:08.040
holler still yelling at me she's still
0:39:04.599,0:39:10.280
Boer oh yeah she was mad but uh but
0:39:08.040,0:39:12.480
anyway at night you know I'll hunt I'm
0:39:10.280,0:39:14.400
big on Crosswinds and that's day or
0:39:12.480,0:39:17.000
night like I say it kind of goes hand in
0:39:14.400,0:39:19.240
hand I don't like I don't like a wind
0:39:17.000,0:39:21.599
even quartering over my shoulder if it's
0:39:19.240,0:39:25.040
not at least a crossed win chances are I
0:39:21.599,0:39:26.920
won't call it um just because you know
0:39:25.040,0:39:30.040
if you take their sight away and take
0:39:26.920,0:39:31.599
you know you take the ability to see the
0:39:30.040,0:39:34.520
way into the stand away you got to give
0:39:31.599,0:39:35.680
them a little something right and um I
0:39:34.520,0:39:37.240
don't you know I don't want the wind
0:39:35.680,0:39:39.119
blowing in my face with a four-lane
0:39:37.240,0:39:41.520
highway behind me and you know expect a
0:39:39.119,0:39:44.560
call a Cy 400 yards across the field
0:39:41.520,0:39:47.040
right um and another thing you know that
0:39:44.560,0:39:49.640
I've kind of hit on a few times is I'm
0:39:47.040,0:39:51.200
not one of those guys that you know
0:39:49.640,0:39:53.520
don't get me wrong some stands yeah
0:39:51.200,0:39:55.400
we'll call these big open bottoms and
0:39:53.520,0:39:59.440
stuff but the cows were keing on chances
0:39:55.400,0:40:01.839
are they're under that 400 yard Mark um
0:39:59.440,0:40:04.440
and you know it's for a couple different
0:40:01.839,0:40:06.839
reasons you know like I've hit on before
0:40:04.440,0:40:10.119
that it's less time for something to
0:40:06.839,0:40:12.520
mess up but also you know you get in
0:40:10.119,0:40:15.599
their bedroom and you're you get a lot
0:40:12.520,0:40:17.480
quicker reactions out of the deal and
0:40:15.599,0:40:19.440
when you're trying to you know make more
0:40:17.480,0:40:21.839
stands or multiple stands throughout the
0:40:19.440,0:40:23.520
night you know if you go ahead and kind
0:40:21.839,0:40:25.040
of get in there and get aggressive on
0:40:23.520,0:40:26.720
them you know sometimes it'll bite you
0:40:25.040,0:40:29.599
in the butt but a lot of times it not it
0:40:26.720,0:40:31.040
won't and and we'll get in there on top
0:40:29.599,0:40:33.640
of them kind of get mean with them and
0:40:31.040,0:40:36.560
you'll get those two to three minute
0:40:33.640,0:40:39.640
reactions versus a 13 to 15 minute
0:40:36.560,0:40:41.440
reaction right right and it just that's
0:40:39.640,0:40:44.400
one thing about that's so different
0:40:41.440,0:40:46.319
between daytime and nighttime Colin you
0:40:44.400,0:40:48.040
know when you do that at night those
0:40:46.319,0:40:50.560
coyotes are already on their feet out
0:40:48.040,0:40:52.760
you know they they're being a coyote you
0:40:50.560,0:40:54.560
know they're living their life if you
0:40:52.760,0:40:56.079
try to do that during the daytime what a
0:40:54.560,0:40:59.319
lot of people don't realize is you don't
0:40:56.079,0:41:00.680
get that quick response all the time is
0:40:59.319,0:41:04.400
most of the time when you're making a
0:41:00.680,0:41:06.440
day stand even if it's right at Sunrise
0:41:04.400,0:41:08.680
a lot of times you're waking those
0:41:06.440,0:41:10.480
coyotes back up you're dragging them out
0:41:08.680,0:41:12.040
of where they're laid up and sometimes
0:41:10.480,0:41:14.200
they just you know or most of the time
0:41:12.040,0:41:17.040
they just don't react the same you know
0:41:14.200,0:41:19.680
it's just totally
0:41:17.040,0:41:21.800
different yeah I I completely agree with
0:41:19.680,0:41:25.000
that you take a like you say a daytime
0:41:21.800,0:41:27.680
Co and a perfect example is one that we
0:41:25.000,0:41:31.079
uh we killed yesterday morning that was
0:41:27.680,0:41:32.920
a 19-minute c man we were calling an
0:41:31.079,0:41:35.240
island of junk out in the middle of a
0:41:32.920,0:41:37.599
big grainfield that I mean realistically
0:41:35.240,0:41:41.079
probably wasn't Seven Acres of just you
0:41:37.599,0:41:43.800
know holler and um those cows were you
0:41:41.079,0:41:46.839
know literally in we knew we were keying
0:41:43.800,0:41:48.640
on those Couts in that holler he took
0:41:46.839,0:41:50.720
his sweet time coming out there now of
0:41:48.640,0:41:52.920
course you know a lot of cows around
0:41:50.720,0:41:55.440
here have heard a call and you know that
0:41:52.920,0:41:57.040
could be part of it too but I mean he
0:41:55.440,0:41:58.520
you could tell was kind of one of those
0:41:57.040,0:42:00.680
he woke up and come out there to see
0:41:58.520,0:42:02.680
what was going on right right finally
0:42:00.680,0:42:04.359
probably sat there and listened to three
0:42:02.680,0:42:07.160
or four or five sounds and finally you
0:42:04.359,0:42:08.720
hit that right one and he said yep maybe
0:42:07.160,0:42:11.760
I should go out there and see what the
0:42:08.720,0:42:13.920
heck is going on and I and I completely
0:42:11.760,0:42:16.920
agree like I say at night just like you
0:42:13.920,0:42:21.160
hit on that point A lot of times cows
0:42:16.920,0:42:25.000
are already out being cows right
0:42:21.160,0:42:27.359
right but yeah we I mean and it's not
0:42:25.000,0:42:29.280
like we go straight into
0:42:27.359,0:42:31.920
you know ripping them off in the fight
0:42:29.280,0:42:34.880
you know the first 10 seconds but I'm
0:42:31.920,0:42:37.440
pretty quick on you know during the day
0:42:34.880,0:42:39.119
we'll lengthen those stands out we you
0:42:37.440,0:42:42.720
know you get a lot of pauses a lot of
0:42:39.119,0:42:45.119
big minute breaks and stuff at night I'm
0:42:42.720,0:42:48.880
kind of ripping off the sound sounds
0:42:45.119,0:42:50.720
that I want to do and kind of going on I
0:42:48.880,0:42:53.240
H the you're talking about Tim cows
0:42:50.720,0:42:54.760
laying up you know listening to all
0:42:53.240,0:42:56.520
these sounds and then finally hit the
0:42:54.760,0:42:58.559
right one and they respond it's we're
0:42:56.520,0:43:00.720
the same way I you know I've got a
0:42:58.559,0:43:04.000
you've got little bitty rugra kids right
0:43:00.720,0:43:05.640
now I've got two it's fairly grown I've
0:43:04.000,0:43:08.079
got a junior in college and I got a
0:43:05.640,0:43:10.119
junior in high school well my college
0:43:08.079,0:43:13.319
kid comes home every other weekend
0:43:10.119,0:43:16.559
spends the weekend with us and
0:43:13.319,0:43:18.839
uh just the other night I'm laid up in
0:43:16.559,0:43:21.000
the bed I'm getting old so you know I'm
0:43:18.839,0:43:23.680
I'm sleepy here it is midnight or
0:43:21.000,0:43:26.280
something so I'm supposed to be beded up
0:43:23.680,0:43:27.800
right laid up well I hear I hear the
0:43:26.280,0:43:29.119
kids come in there and they turn the TV
0:43:27.800,0:43:31.720
on they going to watch something so I
0:43:29.119,0:43:33.240
hear that TV going I hear them you know
0:43:31.720,0:43:35.400
it don't make me get out of bed I hear
0:43:33.240,0:43:38.680
them laughing and cackling and carrying
0:43:35.400,0:43:40.680
on and I'm still lay right there that's
0:43:38.680,0:43:42.520
all right I can sleep through that well
0:43:40.680,0:43:44.119
then all a sudden I hear them banging
0:43:42.520,0:43:45.960
cabinets and open refrigerator and
0:43:44.119,0:43:48.800
turning the oven on they going to try to
0:43:45.960,0:43:51.000
cook a meal at midnight or 12:30 in the
0:43:48.800,0:43:53.720
morning guess what that sound triggered
0:43:51.000,0:43:55.119
a response John got up out of his bed
0:43:53.720,0:43:57.720
and come out there to see what the heck
0:43:55.119,0:43:59.200
was going on so that's right sometimes
0:43:57.720,0:44:02.119
you just got to hit those right sounds
0:43:59.200,0:44:04.640
to get to make something happen but
0:44:02.119,0:44:07.000
we'll move right along here talking
0:44:04.640,0:44:10.800
about uh
0:44:07.000,0:44:13.040
Colin daytime versus nighttime you you
0:44:10.800,0:44:16.040
kind of alluded to it earlier you said
0:44:13.040,0:44:19.559
that you're a big vocal guy at night
0:44:16.040,0:44:21.359
that you rarely ever play any kind of
0:44:19.559,0:44:23.440
pray dist stress or you don't at all is
0:44:21.359,0:44:26.000
there times that you do run prey
0:44:23.440,0:44:28.280
distress a which our season here
0:44:26.000,0:44:30.760
Kentucky comes in in December so that's
0:44:28.280,0:44:34.520
December 1's our opening day of night
0:44:30.760,0:44:37.000
season now December one that early will
0:44:34.520,0:44:39.119
you run pray distress in or from start
0:44:37.000,0:44:43.000
of night season to the end of it you're
0:44:39.119,0:44:45.319
100% vocals all the time the only time
0:44:43.000,0:44:47.640
that I will probably play any prey
0:44:45.319,0:44:50.520
distress at all would say if you were in
0:44:47.640,0:44:51.839
one of those scenarios where you crested
0:44:50.520,0:44:53.480
a hill where you were going to make a
0:44:51.839,0:44:55.240
stand at you scan the field and there's
0:44:53.480,0:44:57.280
already a cow say he's out there like
0:44:55.240,0:45:00.079
200 yards
0:44:57.280,0:45:03.640
um I'll you know might set the call down
0:45:00.079,0:45:06.079
at my feet and blip maybe 20 30 seconds
0:45:03.640,0:45:09.119
of rabbit just to see what his response
0:45:06.079,0:45:11.680
would be and if he kind of keys up and
0:45:09.119,0:45:13.839
even gives me the remote idea that he's
0:45:11.680,0:45:15.720
not gonna come in to that sound or he's
0:45:13.839,0:45:18.280
going to kind of flare out I'll go
0:45:15.720,0:45:20.640
straight into a vocal but for me and
0:45:18.280,0:45:24.040
like I say there's a million ways to
0:45:20.640,0:45:27.000
skin a cat but for me I'm pretty much
0:45:24.040,0:45:28.880
I'm 99.9% VOC
0:45:27.000,0:45:32.400
good stuff well give us give us a good
0:45:28.880,0:45:33.760
you you said one earlier and uh I think
0:45:32.400,0:45:36.000
it'd be worth even if that is your
0:45:33.760,0:45:37.839
number one sequence let's rattle that
0:45:36.000,0:45:39.960
off one more time tell us what type of
0:45:37.839,0:45:42.920
Callin sequence you like to run at
0:45:39.960,0:45:44.800
night uh so at night you know there's a
0:45:42.920,0:45:46.880
bunch of different hows you can use but
0:45:44.800,0:45:48.599
I'll start out the stand with those
0:45:46.880,0:45:51.200
classic hows that you know you're going
0:45:48.599,0:45:53.599
to get responses out of a great one
0:45:51.200,0:45:56.240
female sore housee Fox PRO Sound been
0:45:53.599,0:45:59.520
there since day one amazing you're going
0:45:56.240,0:46:03.200
to get a how back out of it um camir
0:45:59.520,0:46:06.400
lonely it's an mfk sound great sound um
0:46:03.200,0:46:08.240
normally a ton of responses and you know
0:46:06.400,0:46:10.160
there's a bunch that you can go through
0:46:08.240,0:46:14.280
it's not like you just have to play this
0:46:10.160,0:46:17.720
but for me those are probably my top two
0:46:14.280,0:46:20.880
um just that and a Boone lone housee
0:46:17.720,0:46:22.800
goodness gracious Great Sound um that's
0:46:20.880,0:46:26.599
probably my top three non-aggressive
0:46:22.800,0:46:28.240
hals that just get those responses um um
0:46:26.599,0:46:31.319
once I'm done with that I mean if I
0:46:28.240,0:46:33.559
don't hear a response within you know
0:46:31.319,0:46:35.920
probably 20 30 seconds I'm going to go
0:46:33.559,0:46:38.880
right into to something else I'm going
0:46:35.920,0:46:41.520
to spice up that stand pretty quick um
0:46:38.880,0:46:44.280
especially with our night season falling
0:46:41.520,0:46:46.280
right into breeding season um the big
0:46:44.280,0:46:48.520
thing for me was like I said earlier was
0:46:46.280,0:46:51.280
the female breeding growls I'll go into
0:46:48.520,0:46:53.359
that um a lot of times if you got a cat
0:46:51.280,0:46:55.599
that was beded up or caged up right over
0:46:53.359,0:46:57.520
the hill from you or he's out you know
0:46:55.599,0:46:59.480
the next field over that you can't see a
0:46:57.520,0:47:03.000
lot of times just that sound alone's
0:46:59.480,0:47:05.480
enough to get that attention um once I'm
0:47:03.000,0:47:09.160
done with that I'll go into uh like I
0:47:05.480,0:47:11.760
say bump and grind is a great one um
0:47:09.160,0:47:13.520
there's a lot of the lot of the mfk
0:47:11.760,0:47:17.599
library that comes in real Handy at
0:47:13.520,0:47:21.160
night um that use quite a bit out of
0:47:17.599,0:47:22.800
then I I am a sucker for pup 3 and I
0:47:21.160,0:47:25.440
know I said it and I leaned on it there
0:47:22.800,0:47:28.520
earlier but man I can't even tell you
0:47:25.440,0:47:31.119
how of sound that is it's a good one
0:47:28.520,0:47:34.440
that's for sure oh it is and uh after
0:47:31.119,0:47:36.359
bump and grind I normally either go in
0:47:34.440,0:47:37.800
and I'll flip-flop sometimes it's not
0:47:36.359,0:47:41.960
the same but it's always either going to
0:47:37.800,0:47:43.520
be pup three or pound town and you know
0:47:41.960,0:47:45.839
people might say well that's getting
0:47:43.520,0:47:48.319
awfully aggressive awful quick but for
0:47:45.839,0:47:50.359
me like I said earlier I'm not there to
0:47:48.319,0:47:52.040
stand there for 30 minutes and you know
0:47:50.359,0:47:53.920
stare into the dark I'm trying to get
0:47:52.040,0:47:56.240
this stand done and over with in 10 to
0:47:53.920,0:47:58.640
12 minutes and we're on to the next one
0:47:56.240,0:48:03.119
and so I'll ramp up in aggression pretty
0:47:58.640,0:48:04.880
quickly um then uh female sub I
0:48:03.119,0:48:07.680
absolutely love that
0:48:04.880,0:48:10.160
sound uh it's a great sound for trigger
0:48:07.680,0:48:11.920
and responses but it also kind of after
0:48:10.160,0:48:14.480
you know pound town and pup three both
0:48:11.920,0:48:17.760
are pretty aggressive sounds and so it
0:48:14.480,0:48:20.200
kind of it Mellows it back out I guess
0:48:17.760,0:48:23.000
you'd say to where I go right in after
0:48:20.200,0:48:25.839
that sound right into another fight and
0:48:23.000,0:48:29.599
uh some of the good ones there are uh
0:48:25.839,0:48:33.160
girl fight um BMF fight those are good
0:48:29.599,0:48:36.319
ones um and then you know sometimes to
0:48:33.160,0:48:38.440
if I got a C that's out there hung up uh
0:48:36.319,0:48:40.760
Fox Pro cooty pair
0:48:38.440,0:48:42.119
challenge uh you can throw things like
0:48:40.760,0:48:44.720
that kind of in the middle of these
0:48:42.119,0:48:47.520
stands you'll trigger responses say if
0:48:44.720,0:48:49.240
you got one out there 300 yards you
0:48:47.520,0:48:52.160
can't really get a clear shot on it or
0:48:49.240,0:48:54.400
the shots unsafe it's booger barking you
0:48:52.160,0:48:56.119
or something done went wrong A lot of
0:48:54.400,0:48:58.599
times you can throw some mean challenge
0:48:56.119,0:49:00.760
is a perfect example of that we actually
0:48:58.599,0:49:02.799
had Rodney up hunting with us last year
0:49:00.760,0:49:04.960
and had a cow come in behind us and we
0:49:02.799,0:49:07.760
could see her through the fence row just
0:49:04.960,0:49:09.760
mad as fire I mean booger barking crazy
0:49:07.760,0:49:12.160
she was literally staring at the sideb
0:49:09.760,0:49:14.319
side well Andy and Rodney walked up
0:49:12.160,0:49:15.920
there and literally stood right there
0:49:14.319,0:49:18.319
you know this coyot could see them walk
0:49:15.920,0:49:20.480
around I threw coyote pair of challenge
0:49:18.319,0:49:23.480
at her and got her fired up and she ran
0:49:20.480,0:49:25.760
straight at them and I mean it it just
0:49:23.480,0:49:27.359
got her fired up enough to break so
0:49:25.760,0:49:29.520
really you're just trying to find those
0:49:27.359,0:49:31.040
trigger sounds that'll you know
0:49:29.520,0:49:32.920
hopefully you get them called in right
0:49:31.040,0:49:34.640
off the how and everything goes smooth
0:49:32.920,0:49:36.240
but you know just like in daytime
0:49:34.640,0:49:37.960
calling you'll get that one that locks
0:49:36.240,0:49:39.599
up and gets mad and you might have to
0:49:37.960,0:49:42.440
try to get back at it and get it out
0:49:39.599,0:49:46.040
there so right well you was uh you
0:49:42.440,0:49:49.680
mentioned U female coyote sub missive
0:49:46.040,0:49:50.720
which is a fox PRO Sound I I think it's
0:49:49.680,0:49:52.799
one of those sounds that don't get
0:49:50.720,0:49:55.000
enough love you don't hardly ever see
0:49:52.799,0:49:57.680
anybody talk about that on Facebook
0:49:55.000,0:50:00.160
Instagram all that type of stuff um
0:49:57.680,0:50:03.640
first Tam and you ever made together we
0:50:00.160,0:50:05.280
threw that valuable lesson that day we
0:50:03.640,0:50:08.200
threw that sound out there and had a had
0:50:05.280,0:50:10.119
a coyote that was that was kind of
0:50:08.200,0:50:11.799
Booger barking at us and and made that
0:50:10.119,0:50:14.799
coyot break come up here want shooted at
0:50:11.799,0:50:16.760
40 yards or something like that I tell
0:50:14.799,0:50:20.920
people about that stand still to this
0:50:16.760,0:50:23.079
day because I don't know if anybody else
0:50:20.920,0:50:25.240
would I don't know if I'm a cow nerd or
0:50:23.079,0:50:27.880
what it was but I learned more in that
0:50:25.240,0:50:29.920
last last four minutes of that stand
0:50:27.880,0:50:31.839
than I probably did in my whole life and
0:50:29.920,0:50:34.880
and you know you are a big part CU see
0:50:31.839,0:50:38.720
I'm not only heavy vocal at night I'm
0:50:34.880,0:50:41.040
heavy vocal during the day right um and
0:50:38.720,0:50:43.119
you know this time of year you know just
0:50:41.040,0:50:45.119
kind of I I play quite a bit of prey
0:50:43.119,0:50:47.680
distress you know seven eight minutes of
0:50:45.119,0:50:49.760
it there at the beginning but um you
0:50:47.680,0:50:51.559
know that was a definitely a big
0:50:49.760,0:50:53.960
influence on me I mean that Co sit there
0:50:51.559,0:50:56.079
and listen to a solid you know 14 15
0:50:53.960,0:50:58.040
minutes of pray distress
0:50:56.079,0:50:59.799
and uh then listen to some pup
0:50:58.040,0:51:01.319
distresses and stuff you know normally
0:50:59.799,0:51:04.240
stuff that you'd think oh well we're
0:51:01.319,0:51:06.960
done here we didn't call nothing in and
0:51:04.240,0:51:10.040
U and you threw that the stuff out there
0:51:06.960,0:51:11.760
and and that c lit up and that just that
0:51:10.040,0:51:14.280
made something spark in my head I'm
0:51:11.760,0:51:16.640
telling you because that c wasn't what
0:51:14.280,0:51:18.760
90 yards away from us that whole time
0:51:16.640,0:51:20.880
yeah in the thicket yeah yeah yeah I
0:51:18.760,0:51:23.000
think we' heard that Co you got to
0:51:20.880,0:51:25.040
barking at something but anyway it it it
0:51:23.000,0:51:27.440
paid off ended up with a Coy in her lap
0:51:25.040,0:51:31.040
for to 50 60 yards or something like
0:51:27.440,0:51:33.280
that but let's uh tell me you kind of
0:51:31.040,0:51:34.680
mentioned you said 10 12 minutes how
0:51:33.280,0:51:36.160
long the stand are you making at night
0:51:34.680,0:51:38.000
what's your longest stand you'll make
0:51:36.160,0:51:39.480
like if say night if you was going night
0:51:38.000,0:51:42.040
hunting somewhere tonight how long how
0:51:39.480,0:51:44.520
long are your stands if I don't have a
0:51:42.040,0:51:48.000
cat that's either I'm working or he's
0:51:44.520,0:51:50.079
already on his way in at 12 minutes max
0:51:48.000,0:51:51.599
and I'm out how many sounds are you
0:51:50.079,0:51:53.240
gonna throw at them in 12 minutes how
0:51:51.599,0:51:56.200
many sounds will you play on the
0:51:53.240,0:51:58.680
stand heck probably
0:51:56.200,0:52:00.119
seven or eight in a in a 12 minute
0:51:58.680,0:52:01.839
stretch it's it's throwing plenty of
0:52:00.119,0:52:03.640
sound out there you're my kind of guy I
0:52:01.839,0:52:05.920
like throwing a lot of sound out
0:52:03.640,0:52:08.400
there man it's kind of like a dark board
0:52:05.920,0:52:11.520
I throw something till it sticks I
0:52:08.400,0:52:13.200
mean you know you're you're looking for
0:52:11.520,0:52:15.160
that trigger sound and you know some
0:52:13.200,0:52:18.599
nights you'll find it and just like in
0:52:15.160,0:52:21.799
Our Big Night hunt we did we found three
0:52:18.599,0:52:24.839
sounds you know that were really really
0:52:21.799,0:52:26.040
triggering just those mean here we come
0:52:24.839,0:52:27.599
respon
0:52:26.040,0:52:29.960
and we stuck with them I mean we beat
0:52:27.599,0:52:31.880
them to death at night right and you
0:52:29.960,0:52:34.720
know so I'm sitting there kind of going
0:52:31.880,0:52:37.040
through some stuff just a list of things
0:52:34.720,0:52:39.240
on my mind you know it is yes a sequence
0:52:37.040,0:52:41.119
but I'm trying to find that one trigger
0:52:39.240,0:52:44.400
sound that really just fires that coyot
0:52:41.119,0:52:46.400
up and gets it to break and um you know
0:52:44.400,0:52:48.680
there's obviously exceptions I mean yeah
0:52:46.400,0:52:50.760
were there some times last year you know
0:52:48.680,0:52:53.119
we might shoot the first cow at 3
0:52:50.760,0:52:56.359
minutes in and end up killing a second
0:52:53.119,0:52:57.839
one at you know seven or something like
0:52:56.359,0:53:01.200
that we just had to work it a little bit
0:52:57.839,0:53:02.559
more but um if I'm going in you know I
0:53:01.200,0:53:05.160
don't have any
0:53:02.559,0:53:07.440
responses you're kind of blind calling
0:53:05.160,0:53:09.920
at that point or something like that 12
0:53:07.440,0:53:11.920
minutes and I'm pretty well wrapped up
0:53:09.920,0:53:15.079
good stuff we're starting to wind down
0:53:11.920,0:53:16.760
here so I got ah two maybe three
0:53:15.079,0:53:20.240
questions I'm going to ask you here some
0:53:16.760,0:53:22.079
quick hit stuff watch your uh watch your
0:53:20.240,0:53:23.839
top three favorite sounds you probably
0:53:22.079,0:53:25.200
heard me ask everybody that I love
0:53:23.839,0:53:28.359
hearing this I love hearing what every
0:53:25.200,0:53:30.480
everybody has to say if if Mike Dylan
0:53:28.359,0:53:32.280
was going to send you a brand new call
0:53:30.480,0:53:34.520
that you was going to run for this night
0:53:32.280,0:53:36.559
season coming up but you could only have
0:53:34.520,0:53:38.799
three sounds on it you were challenged
0:53:36.559,0:53:41.520
to run the whole season with three
0:53:38.799,0:53:43.240
sounds what three sounds you getting we
0:53:41.520,0:53:46.720
running the whole night season or day
0:53:43.240,0:53:49.280
and night calling top three sounds for
0:53:46.720,0:53:54.520
any type of calling for the rest of the
0:53:49.280,0:53:56.000
year from now from from October 25th
0:53:54.520,0:53:59.359
through
0:53:56.000,0:53:59.359
March end of
0:54:00.079,0:54:07.720
March K Cotton Tail pup three pound town
0:54:05.520,0:54:10.119
awesome you got a got one of the best
0:54:07.720,0:54:12.359
rabbit sounds ever recorded one of the
0:54:10.119,0:54:14.119
best pup distresses ever recorded and
0:54:12.359,0:54:16.799
one of the best fights ever recorded I
0:54:14.119,0:54:18.640
think it's three wise choices now it's I
0:54:16.799,0:54:20.640
ain't GNA lie I've been leaning on bird
0:54:18.640,0:54:23.119
pretty heavy this year and last year it
0:54:20.640,0:54:24.559
worked out pretty good but I'm man if
0:54:23.119,0:54:27.119
you give me three that's where I'm going
0:54:24.559,0:54:29.160
ain't on Ki I mean it's almost like a
0:54:27.119,0:54:32.280
cheat code you know if you go somewhere
0:54:29.160,0:54:34.720
and don't know what to play or you know
0:54:32.280,0:54:37.200
things are going whichever way and
0:54:34.720,0:54:39.799
you've been in a rut and you know or go
0:54:37.200,0:54:42.280
to a new place to hunt and hey just go
0:54:39.799,0:54:44.880
kg out there something going to come
0:54:42.280,0:54:46.920
that's right I love it so let's limit
0:54:44.880,0:54:49.760
you a little bit more same type of
0:54:46.920,0:54:51.280
scenario but you only allowed one sound
0:54:49.760,0:54:54.799
you got to see how many coyotes you can
0:54:51.280,0:54:59.680
kill through rest of 2023 in the first
0:54:54.799,0:55:02.280
quar 2024 with one sound which sound you
0:54:59.680,0:55:04.920
taking I'm probably going to take pound
0:55:02.280,0:55:06.960
town because it's like five and a half
0:55:04.920,0:55:09.240
minutes long and you can pause and break
0:55:06.960,0:55:11.319
that sound up in so many different ways
0:55:09.240,0:55:15.400
that you could make it more
0:55:11.319,0:55:18.720
versal um even though I've killed
0:55:15.400,0:55:21.079
quadruple off of pup three I feel like I
0:55:18.720,0:55:23.079
could make the sound more versible with
0:55:21.079,0:55:25.520
pauses and breakups and that's the only
0:55:23.079,0:55:28.680
reason awesome awesome I think those are
0:55:25.520,0:55:30.280
I think great answers got one more I'm
0:55:28.680,0:55:32.440
going to ask you cuz we got a little bit
0:55:30.280,0:55:34.920
more time here and this this what
0:55:32.440,0:55:38.799
spurred this question is something that
0:55:34.920,0:55:42.440
uh I commented on on Facebook a couple
0:55:38.799,0:55:45.319
days ago and it's got man that post has
0:55:42.440,0:55:48.520
got all kinds of comments on it and what
0:55:45.319,0:55:50.960
I posted on there um had a lot of likes
0:55:48.520,0:55:53.319
my comment had a lot of likes it also
0:55:50.960,0:55:55.440
made a handful of people kind of mad I
0:55:53.319,0:55:56.960
actually had like three three or four
0:55:55.440,0:55:59.160
cow hunters it just like immediately
0:55:56.960,0:56:02.119
went and unfriended me because of it but
0:55:59.160,0:56:03.440
we was talking about rim rim fires
0:56:02.119,0:56:06.720
somebody's talking about a guy using a
0:56:03.440,0:56:08.160
Rimfire at night and had other options
0:56:06.720,0:56:11.799
he could use but some reason he's
0:56:08.160,0:56:14.720
choosing to take a subsonic 22 long
0:56:11.799,0:56:16.920
rifle uh so I put on there you know hey
0:56:14.720,0:56:20.359
a ky dessert no matter how bad you hate
0:56:16.920,0:56:24.559
a cout a Cy deserves a little bit more
0:56:20.359,0:56:26.960
than a Rimfire so my question is if you
0:56:24.559,0:56:30.000
are dropped off in some kind of remote
0:56:26.960,0:56:31.960
region of the world like there's no way
0:56:30.000,0:56:33.480
you can get out of it without help
0:56:31.960,0:56:35.000
somebody has to come get you out there
0:56:33.480,0:56:36.680
right they like just drop you out a
0:56:35.000,0:56:38.160
helicopter but what they're going to do
0:56:36.680,0:56:39.200
they're going to drop you off with a
0:56:38.160,0:56:43.359
fully
0:56:39.200,0:56:46.200
loaded Fox Pro x24 full B charged
0:56:43.359,0:56:48.240
battery batter is in your remote fully
0:56:46.200,0:56:52.240
charged you got the entire Fox Pro
0:56:48.240,0:56:54.440
Library you got the entire mfk library
0:56:52.240,0:56:56.559
and what they tell you is what you've
0:56:54.440,0:56:59.480
got to do is you have got to call in a
0:56:56.559,0:57:01.480
coyote and kill it if you call in a
0:56:59.480,0:57:03.680
coyote and kill it we'll come back in
0:57:01.480,0:57:05.520
here with a helicopter pull you out here
0:57:03.680,0:57:07.520
we're going to save your life if you
0:57:05.520,0:57:09.880
don't get a coyot killed you got to live
0:57:07.520,0:57:13.079
out the rest of your days fing for
0:57:09.880,0:57:14.720
yourself eating dirt and insects okay
0:57:13.079,0:57:17.119
never see anybody ever again you're
0:57:14.720,0:57:21.720
there by yourself the thing is that you
0:57:17.119,0:57:24.559
get to choose you get to choose a rifle
0:57:21.720,0:57:26.880
say I want Bool gun AR it don't matter
0:57:24.559,0:57:29.280
what it is you get to choose that gun
0:57:26.880,0:57:32.039
and then you get to choose a caliber
0:57:29.280,0:57:35.440
that's what I want to know what caliber
0:57:32.039,0:57:38.119
will gauge Bohan and choose if his life
0:57:35.440,0:57:40.880
depends on him killing a Cy because you
0:57:38.119,0:57:42.960
get that caliber your choice and they
0:57:40.880,0:57:45.039
give you one bullet so you're going to
0:57:42.960,0:57:47.000
call in a coyote and you've got to take
0:57:45.039,0:57:47.839
that one bullet and kill a coyote then
0:57:47.000,0:57:50.680
we're going to come in with the
0:57:47.839,0:57:53.440
helicopter and save your life what
0:57:50.680,0:57:57.160
caliber does Gage bohannan choose when
0:57:53.440,0:58:00.520
his life depends on it tequila C 22 250
0:57:57.160,0:58:03.440
my man so you ain't gonna take no 17 HMR
0:58:00.520,0:58:06.240
or 22 long rifle or 22
0:58:03.440,0:58:08.280
short man I mean this in the best way
0:58:06.240,0:58:11.000
possible anybody that lists that as
0:58:08.280,0:58:14.520
their answer obviously does not kill
0:58:11.000,0:58:15.720
very many cows I it always baffles me
0:58:14.520,0:58:18.240
and guys
0:58:15.720,0:58:21.200
don't I know there's some places I know
0:58:18.240,0:58:23.359
I think Tennessee has this stretch that
0:58:21.200,0:58:25.640
they can only use Rim Fires for cow
0:58:23.359,0:58:27.319
hunting I know New York York maybe does
0:58:25.640,0:58:29.079
the same thing through a stretch there
0:58:27.319,0:58:30.760
there's some weird laws out there on the
0:58:29.079,0:58:33.039
books and I blame that on the fish and
0:58:30.760,0:58:34.920
wildlife departments I really do oh yeah
0:58:33.039,0:58:37.559
it Corners them up and have to use a
0:58:34.920,0:58:39.720
Rimfire now I know rimfires will kill
0:58:37.559,0:58:43.760
them I've killed coyotes myself with a
0:58:39.720,0:58:46.440
17hmr you know out squirrel hunting or
0:58:43.760,0:58:48.760
whatever and see a coyote and man I kill
0:58:46.440,0:58:51.520
that thing and kill it I've done the
0:58:48.760,0:58:53.440
same thing as a 22 long rifle but I'm
0:58:51.520,0:58:55.400
definitely not taking it you know those
0:58:53.440,0:58:58.119
were targets op you know opportunity
0:58:55.400,0:59:01.680
targets you know just hey there's a Coy
0:58:58.119,0:59:03.680
60 yards whatever shoot it get it killed
0:59:01.680,0:59:06.480
I'm never going to choose that as a
0:59:03.680,0:59:09.880
dedicated rifle to go hunt
0:59:06.480,0:59:12.520
coyes no well like I think you've
0:59:09.880,0:59:14.480
actually made this good point before you
0:59:12.520,0:59:16.440
know a lot of people can put their money
0:59:14.480,0:59:19.839
where their mouth is but you truly had
0:59:16.440,0:59:22.880
to make your living killing cows yeah
0:59:19.839,0:59:24.960
and you are the calibers you pick have
0:59:22.880,0:59:26.920
to be able to put those coyes down
0:59:24.960,0:59:29.680
ethically on film and you are not going
0:59:26.920,0:59:32.000
to pick that caliber no no it's it's
0:59:29.680,0:59:35.000
it's a little wild and and there is like
0:59:32.000,0:59:37.000
I said sometimes these state fish and
0:59:35.000,0:59:38.839
wildlife agencies back in a corner where
0:59:37.000,0:59:41.359
they restrict you with these laws that
0:59:38.839,0:59:43.119
it's what you got to use and sometimes
0:59:41.359,0:59:44.760
maybe you don't have the money you know
0:59:43.119,0:59:46.520
I understand that hey you get a call get
0:59:44.760,0:59:48.799
some hand calls you buy you a starter
0:59:46.520,0:59:54.000
unit Fox Pro whatever and you don't have
0:59:48.799,0:59:55.599
the money to go buy 223 22 250 243 you
0:59:54.000,0:59:59.720
know the list go goes on but you've got
0:59:55.599,1:00:02.599
a 22 long rifle or 17 HMR by all means
0:59:59.720,1:00:04.799
take them out yes go hunt with them but
1:00:02.599,1:00:06.440
you got to realize that you're really
1:00:04.799,1:00:08.079
limiting yourself when you're using
1:00:06.440,1:00:10.440
those type of calibers you got to call
1:00:08.079,1:00:12.480
those coyotes in closer if you want to
1:00:10.440,1:00:14.079
be more successful yeah you can shoot
1:00:12.480,1:00:16.640
them on out there 100 couple hundred
1:00:14.079,1:00:19.839
yards you want to but guess what every
1:00:16.640,1:00:21.880
yard every yard out there drops your
1:00:19.839,1:00:24.319
chances of down in that cow and you've
1:00:21.880,1:00:26.799
got to be spot on I mean I'm talking
1:00:24.319,1:00:29.960
about about spot on with your shooting
1:00:26.799,1:00:33.240
to Anchor these Couts and you know with
1:00:29.960,1:00:35.400
these other calibers say a six Creed you
1:00:33.240,1:00:37.480
can shoot wayon out there you can go out
1:00:35.400,1:00:38.680
there hundreds of yards and shoot them
1:00:37.480,1:00:40.319
and you don't have to hit them right in
1:00:38.680,1:00:42.039
the shoulder or right in the lungs or
1:00:40.319,1:00:43.559
right in a heart to Anchor a Coy you
1:00:42.039,1:00:46.480
know you can hit those Co right in the
1:00:43.559,1:00:47.799
center high low and still drops them and
1:00:46.480,1:00:49.839
puts their lights out almost
1:00:47.799,1:00:52.200
instantaneously or instantaneously it's
1:00:49.839,1:00:53.920
just that that stuff that these larger
1:00:52.200,1:00:55.839
calibers give you I didn't mean to go on
1:00:53.920,1:00:57.559
a rant here here but that's just
1:00:55.839,1:01:01.000
something I was thinking
1:00:57.559,1:01:03.240
about no I'm 100% on your side there I
1:01:01.000,1:01:06.400
mean and you
1:01:03.240,1:01:08.440
know like I say everybody has at some
1:01:06.400,1:01:10.119
point I remember when the 17 first came
1:01:08.440,1:01:12.960
out I was in elementary school and that
1:01:10.119,1:01:14.480
round first came out y we bought one I
1:01:12.960,1:01:16.440
thought it was the coolest thing ever
1:01:14.480,1:01:20.680
and buddy I was a Groundhog's worst
1:01:16.440,1:01:23.760
nightmare oh yeah yeah um but and yes at
1:01:20.680,1:01:26.480
that time I did kill a couple cows
1:01:23.760,1:01:28.160
behind my old but just like you say if
1:01:26.480,1:01:30.480
they weren't head or next shot it wasn't
1:01:28.160,1:01:31.880
like you were dropping that Co right
1:01:30.480,1:01:34.640
right I
1:01:31.880,1:01:36.599
mean and sometimes they will certain
1:01:34.640,1:01:39.280
circumstances and everybody that's
1:01:36.599,1:01:42.000
listening listen I mean it I'm not
1:01:39.280,1:01:44.119
trying to down them you know like maybe
1:01:42.000,1:01:45.720
I am a little bit but I I don't it's
1:01:44.119,1:01:48.119
just one of those things you know don't
1:01:45.720,1:01:50.039
get mad at me because I called it out
1:01:48.119,1:01:52.440
but you know if they were the proper
1:01:50.039,1:01:55.640
caliber to use we'd all be shooting them
1:01:52.440,1:01:58.760
you know if a 22 longine rifle or 17 HMR
1:01:55.640,1:02:00.839
was the answer to killing coyotes man
1:01:58.760,1:02:02.920
I'd be shooting one I wouldn't have
1:02:00.839,1:02:05.000
literally I can take two steps and grab
1:02:02.920,1:02:07.799
a hold of there's a 22 250 sitting here
1:02:05.000,1:02:10.319
in a sixth cred that's what I'm taking
1:02:07.799,1:02:12.799
this is what I'm taking well and you
1:02:10.319,1:02:15.000
take you know like I say to it and I and
1:02:12.799,1:02:17.240
I don't mean anything rude by it but if
1:02:15.000,1:02:19.760
you go down and look at your your great
1:02:17.240,1:02:22.240
cow callers across the country you know
1:02:19.760,1:02:23.680
no matter who they work for what they do
1:02:22.240,1:02:26.839
there's just guys out there and
1:02:23.680,1:02:29.720
everybody knows the flat Kill U yourself
1:02:26.839,1:02:32.880
included um bunch of you know our close
1:02:29.720,1:02:35.279
friends that that do this and big
1:02:32.880,1:02:37.920
tournament guys you
1:02:35.279,1:02:39.839
know they're if you've got like your
1:02:37.920,1:02:41.680
living on the line you you make your
1:02:39.839,1:02:43.359
your living doing this and you know you
1:02:41.680,1:02:46.119
big tournament guys they're making their
1:02:43.359,1:02:47.720
money doing this and stuff like that
1:02:46.119,1:02:49.160
they're not going to pick those calibers
1:02:47.720,1:02:51.680
and if you go through there there's
1:02:49.160,1:02:53.960
probably five calibers that all of those
1:02:51.680,1:02:55.240
people included are going to pick yeah
1:02:53.960,1:02:57.160
and you know
1:02:55.240,1:02:59.119
you're not going to make that top five I
1:02:57.160,1:03:00.760
mean it just ain't gonna happen no no
1:02:59.119,1:03:03.400
it's just one of those thing I
1:03:00.760,1:03:06.720
mean sometimes coyotes are hard to come
1:03:03.400,1:03:08.440
by you know oh yeah everybody it don't
1:03:06.720,1:03:10.359
matter how many coyotes you've caught up
1:03:08.440,1:03:13.880
it don't matter how many coyotes you've
1:03:10.359,1:03:15.440
down um when you like Al Morris he's
1:03:13.880,1:03:17.359
probably he's probably called and killed
1:03:15.440,1:03:19.200
more coyot than anybody that's ever done
1:03:17.359,1:03:21.039
it I mean he's done it for a living for
1:03:19.200,1:03:23.920
years you know traveled all over the
1:03:21.039,1:03:25.960
country done it to this day if Al goes
1:03:23.920,1:03:29.200
out this evening this afternoon and
1:03:25.960,1:03:31.760
calls up a cout and he shoots it and the
1:03:29.200,1:03:35.359
thing spins off and gets away from him
1:03:31.760,1:03:37.480
for whatever reason he is flat tore up
1:03:35.359,1:03:39.279
everybody everybody that's a Coy Hunter
1:03:37.480,1:03:41.799
if you don't get that Coy that you had
1:03:39.279,1:03:44.359
opportunity at you're tore up about it
1:03:41.799,1:03:46.240
so why limit yourself you know with a
1:03:44.359,1:03:48.480
caliber don't use these marginal
1:03:46.240,1:03:50.920
calibers it's I mean it's not worth it
1:03:48.480,1:03:53.279
it's not worth it to you and you deserve
1:03:50.920,1:03:55.279
more and a coyot definitely deserves
1:03:53.279,1:03:57.680
more than a rimfire
1:03:55.279,1:04:00.839
unless you absolutely have to use
1:03:57.680,1:04:03.720
it oh yeah and like I say once again
1:04:00.839,1:04:06.079
back to the if that's all you got or the
1:04:03.720,1:04:08.400
area you're calling in you know that's
1:04:06.079,1:04:10.680
all you can use or like you said yeah
1:04:08.400,1:04:12.559
you're right because I went and hunted
1:04:10.680,1:04:15.359
with Greg last year and Tennessee does
1:04:12.559,1:04:17.240
have a Rimfire season yep where they
1:04:15.359,1:04:19.520
that's all they can use you know and
1:04:17.240,1:04:22.119
yeah there's some hotter rimfires out
1:04:19.520,1:04:26.400
there but if you can ask any of those
1:04:22.119,1:04:29.319
guys that stock up Couts and ten see um
1:04:26.400,1:04:31.039
you know a lot of them I can promise you
1:04:29.319,1:04:36.359
Greg will take a shotgun Before He'll
1:04:31.039,1:04:39.440
take a Rimfire I hold yeah no it's just
1:04:36.359,1:04:42.440
if I'm if anybody's got a pick you know
1:04:39.440,1:04:44.599
nobody that has to kill a lot of cows or
1:04:42.440,1:04:46.240
wants to kill a lot of cows you know
1:04:44.599,1:04:47.880
that's honestly not what they're going
1:04:46.240,1:04:51.240
after and you talk about you know you
1:04:47.880,1:04:53.480
owe that Co more man I've killed CS with
1:04:51.240,1:04:56.079
probably every caliber you can think of
1:04:53.480,1:04:57.680
just being dead honest you know from as
1:04:56.079,1:04:59.359
little as you can think of to as big as
1:04:57.680,1:05:02.680
you can think of and I'm still going to
1:04:59.359,1:05:06.680
fall back into those you know those 22
1:05:02.680,1:05:09.000
250 6 Creed that base of a properly
1:05:06.680,1:05:10.279
suited rounds for it yeah they
1:05:09.000,1:05:12.200
distribute all their energy in the
1:05:10.279,1:05:14.000
animal I mean that's all it is to it
1:05:12.200,1:05:16.440
well before we get off here and I will
1:05:14.000,1:05:17.680
throw some disclaimers out there what
1:05:16.440,1:05:21.440
we've been talked about so you just
1:05:17.680,1:05:23.760
don't hate my guts over this yes I know
1:05:21.440,1:05:26.079
that the rimfires will kill them I
1:05:23.760,1:05:27.640
understand if you can't afford uh Center
1:05:26.079,1:05:30.119
fire type cartridge and that's all you
1:05:27.640,1:05:32.440
got a 22 or 17 or something like that
1:05:30.119,1:05:34.279
yeah just call them coyes in close make
1:05:32.440,1:05:36.319
your shots count you'll get the coyos
1:05:34.279,1:05:38.119
now people do it every single day
1:05:36.319,1:05:39.640
there's states that that have those type
1:05:38.119,1:05:41.480
of laws that limit you where you have to
1:05:39.640,1:05:42.799
use them at certain times of years and
1:05:41.480,1:05:44.480
there's a lot of guys that take them out
1:05:42.799,1:05:47.599
and they're very successful with it so
1:05:44.480,1:05:50.599
don't think nothing too bad negative
1:05:47.599,1:05:52.799
about me saying all that stuff but and I
1:05:50.599,1:05:55.119
leave you with a story that I just saw
1:05:52.799,1:05:58.000
it was on the same post clay Reed good
1:05:55.119,1:06:00.920
friend of ours Kay Reed one of the best
1:05:58.000,1:06:03.599
cow hunters in the world he put a story
1:06:00.920,1:06:05.920
out there that he remember from you know
1:06:03.599,1:06:09.880
Clay he's you know they call him the
1:06:05.920,1:06:12.000
coyote man he has been uh in the middle
1:06:09.880,1:06:14.359
of Ky hunting his entire life and he
1:06:12.000,1:06:15.960
told his story from his youth I forget
1:06:14.359,1:06:18.880
how old he said he was but he was he was
1:06:15.960,1:06:21.960
like a grade school age child it was
1:06:18.880,1:06:23.839
talking about his mom and dad uh killing
1:06:21.960,1:06:26.160
his Cy I think they had a bait pile set
1:06:23.839,1:06:27.960
up and his dad would go out and shine a
1:06:26.160,1:06:30.839
light on his bait pile and his mom would
1:06:27.960,1:06:32.799
sit over a 22 long rifle and pick these
1:06:30.839,1:06:34.319
coyotes off I think what they was doing
1:06:32.799,1:06:36.240
they was getting paid for every coyot
1:06:34.319,1:06:38.119
they killed you know cut their ears I
1:06:36.240,1:06:39.839
think you take a pair of ears in I think
1:06:38.119,1:06:42.240
he said take a pair of ears in we get a
1:06:39.839,1:06:44.279
dollar for him and for them back in that
1:06:42.240,1:06:46.760
that time was was big money for them you
1:06:44.279,1:06:48.799
know they depended on that and I think
1:06:46.760,1:06:50.960
he said that she shot something like 28
1:06:48.799,1:06:54.480
coops with a 22 long rifle killed every
1:06:50.960,1:06:56.960
single one of them but you know woman
1:06:54.480,1:06:58.839
was a good good Marksman markswoman I
1:06:56.960,1:07:00.760
guess you would say and it made her
1:06:58.839,1:07:03.160
shots count so they can definitely
1:07:00.760,1:07:05.720
definitely pile up CS I know they can
1:07:03.160,1:07:09.240
but just uh watch what you're doing with
1:07:05.720,1:07:11.000
them I like I say I I've killed them
1:07:09.240,1:07:13.279
with bigger small about everything you
1:07:11.000,1:07:15.400
can think of but it's just I have
1:07:13.279,1:07:17.960
preferences well we went on about that
1:07:15.400,1:07:20.200
long enough Gage I appreciate you coming
1:07:17.960,1:07:22.760
on here buddy I really enjoyed having
1:07:20.200,1:07:25.039
you on U thanks for talking to us about
1:07:22.760,1:07:27.119
night hunting a little bit it's we've I
1:07:25.039,1:07:29.240
think it's only our second night
1:07:27.119,1:07:30.720
specific episode we've done and I think
1:07:29.240,1:07:35.200
this is a good one we'll definitely be
1:07:30.720,1:07:37.400
bringing more out in the future um Gage
1:07:35.200,1:07:38.599
we got a Kentucky rifle season coming up
1:07:37.400,1:07:40.760
hopefully you get one of them kid
1:07:38.599,1:07:42.880
youngans out there and they can uh have
1:07:40.760,1:07:44.559
a successful hunt get your wife out
1:07:42.880,1:07:46.640
there and she can kill a deer still got
1:07:44.559,1:07:50.520
time for that what's second Saturday of
1:07:46.640,1:07:52.640
November that's correct yes it is but we
1:07:50.520,1:07:54.279
appreciate you old buddy we hope uh
1:07:52.640,1:07:55.680
everyone enjoyed this episode we hope
1:07:54.279,1:07:56.720
you join us again right here on the fox
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