FOXPRO's Jon Collins and Corey Groff discuss what it takes to be successful at calling bobcats.
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welcome to the fox Pro podcast brought
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to you by Fox Pro game calls hello
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everyone I'm John Collins welcome back
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to the fox Pro podcast Bobcat season is
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in across the country and that's what
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we're discussing on this episode we've
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got Mr Corey grath joining us again
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how's it going Corey you doing all right
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oh I'm doing pretty pretty good John how
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about yourself oh doing doing pretty
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good uh it it you think you telling me a
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bit a little bit ago that the wind is
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sure rocking in the show me state sounds
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like yeah it's actually not too bad
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today I'm I'm I've been out in the field
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doing a little bit of scouting and uh
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you know we scheduled this thing and I
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thought well I'll just stay out here in
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the field while I'm talking to you so if
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we hear a little bit of wind that's
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that's where I'm at but uh it's actually
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not too bad but man we have had a lot of
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windy days here the last you know month
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or so it's just been kind of annoying
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some right well you said you out doing
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some scouting what you Scouting For well
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I'm Scouting For Bobcats
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John per perfect perfect you know that's
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definitely one of the things that uh you
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know looking on Facebook and all that
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type stuff you know I've been seeing
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several questions pop up on social media
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and and some of our videos on YouTube
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and stuff like that about bobcats and
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usually what they're asking about is
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sounds for
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Bobcats and um on top of that we film
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some cats come to the fox Pro here
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lately and whenever I post anything
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about related to Bob catch usually my
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inbox really blows up and there's
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there's everybody's always asking about
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sounds and there's always the thing is
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there's more to calling Bobcats and just
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the sounds that use you know there's
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there's a lot of stuff that leads up to
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that and that's definitely some stuff I
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want to talk about um we will talk about
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I've I've already tagged a couple
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Bobcats this season uh Corey has punched
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a hole in one really nice bobcat and I
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think he's had a chance at another so
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we're going to talk about all those
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stands and what what we did that make
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those stands successful but I also want
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to cover a few things that I think are
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sometimes overlooked when it comes to
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Colin bob cat just like what you're
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doing right now uh Cory out there
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scouting if um you know since we're
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already on that subject tell us tell us
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what you're kind of looking for what
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when you're Scouting For Bobcats what
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are you actually doing I know you're
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looking for spots to to kill a bobcat
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but what and what do you do uh where
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you're actually Scouting For Bobcats
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what you call Scouting For Bobcats well
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what I call Scouting For Bobcats is
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there's two main things I'm looking for
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number one is scat because if they're
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putting scat on the
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ground chances are that cat's telling me
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that he's living right there pretty
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close most of the time when they get up
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out of their bed that's one of the first
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things they're going to do they're going
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to they're going to get out of their bed
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bed stretch out stroll down a you know a
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cattle path somewhere and find their
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their marking territory and they're and
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they're going to lay some scat down
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right so that number one that's the
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first thing I look for when I'm looking
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for a cat stand right
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and generally you find cat stand or cat
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scat in that area you're that cat's
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right there he's living right there uh
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track tracks can be deceiving cuz a cat
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at night you know will cover they they
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really do cover some ground a lot of
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people don't think that they do a big
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pal Will Will Travel quite a ways you
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know at night and uh you know in the
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daytime of course they don't move that
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much but uh so that's the number one
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thing I'm looking for in that cat stand
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the problem with in my area here this
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year this this fall and winter John
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we've been so stinking dry we're we're
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in a pretty bad
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drought but it's it that can work to
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your advantage too with with water
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source right that's another thing I'm
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looking for because a cat just they love
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to be around water so I've been looking
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at Farm ponds uh Springs running out of
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the ground little little creek arms um
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so those are the things that I put
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together first off in the cat right well
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you know talking about the scouting all
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states are different you know it's same
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thing for Bobcats and coyotes you know
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some states some areas have more Bobcats
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than others it's like here in my home
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state of Kentucky we do have cats and
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the area that I live in is probably one
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of the better Bobcat calling areas
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because we probably got more cats than
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than other parts of the state especially
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like if you were talking about the
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western part of the state and probably
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the northern part of the state it's just
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because we got the better habitat for it
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but still here in Kentucky no matter
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where you're at we we've got a season of
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course we Most states do uh but we've
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got a a limited quota or limited bag
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limit uh each Hunter is only allowed to
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take three bobcats in the state of
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Kentucky and in your state of Missouri
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where you live it's is it unlimited or
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how many cats are you out Missouri yeah
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we're we're unlimited I mean we could we
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can shoot as many as we want trrap as
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many as we want uh so we're we're pretty
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fortunate when it comes to that you know
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that part uh you know and I understand
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why those other states do that you know
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uh Bobcats were one time on an
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endangered species list and and I think
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in some areas they still are and that's
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why you know our dnrs and our
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conservation agencies and stuff ask us
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to tag those cats right right well that
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just that just goes to show you too if
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one state has a bag limit I think like
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PA has a bag limit of one Kentucky has a
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bag limit of three then you start
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talking about States like you know
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Missouri unlimited um Texas you know
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Texas unlimited so you know there's
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definitely different populations in
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different states so some people might be
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listening like good G Bobcats are
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everywhere what do you mean why you got
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Scout just go out start calling you're
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gonna call them up well you might do
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that in South Texas but that don't mean
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you going to do it in you know Tennessee
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or you know or wherever you know just
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pull any state out them so some places
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scouting can really really pay off even
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in those states where you do have a
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higher population scouting can still pay
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off for you you know you can know that
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you know one thing about scouting if you
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do find sign you do find where cats have
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been you know you've got a cat to call
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to right I mean it's just just simple
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fact so scouting is I'm glad you brought
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that up to you when I first talk called
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you I thought you was out there Scout
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for Co so that's pretty good that you
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Scout for bobcast it ties right in with
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what we're talking about so that's
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that's pretty good U you know and that's
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one thing you know I mentioned that I
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want to cover a few things that leading
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up to sounds and sequences you know
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you're there's just so many other things
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that's important you know your stand
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selection and stand setup in my opinion
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are crucial for being consistently
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successful on calling Bob gats you know
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like I said everybody wants to know
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about the sounds and sequences but if
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you're not setting up correctly it's
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it's not going to matter much what sound
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you're playing because if you're not
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calling to a cat you can't call a bobcat
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up right no that's exactly right and it
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and that works for coyotes too I you
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know I try to tell a lot of guys you
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know everybody wants to to think there's
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that secret sound that you know guys
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like you and and Al Morris are using you
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know when you see pictures of five or
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six CS laying on the tailgate of a
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pickup and really you know you guys and
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me included you know we got to work at
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the setup first those are the
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fundamentals of calling is the setup and
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then you know the calling will come with
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it too you know later on right so I try
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to tell guys when they ask me about
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sounds you know I'm not calling anything
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in I ask them what's your setup like
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well what do you mean well take me
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through your whole setup and then I'll
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I'll see what you know I might be able
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to try to help you out right so it's
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very key that's a very important part of
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any kind of Predator calling exactly and
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like said we're going to get to sounds
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and sequences on this podcast and uh but
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I think we got to start off just talk
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quite we said and that stand selection
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and Cory you know you done talked about
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the about scouting a little bit what
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you're looking for but uh tell us tell
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us what you look for in an actual Bobcat
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stand what kind of areas you looking for
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what kind of what kind of areas or
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habitat do you concentrate on to make
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your cat stand because I know a lot of
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times you know you might have a bobcat
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scouted out and you're going after that
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cat but you're also making blind stands
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as well like you're just picking out
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habitat or certain features out there in
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the train say man you know what I bet
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that's holding cat won't you tell us
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what you're looking for there well I'm
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always looking for something that's
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that's a br you know got a lot of brush
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you know or or an open pasture that's
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adjacent to you know a big stand of
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brush and the reason is is you know
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these cotton tails and these stuff like
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that you know they they want to be in
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there too because they're vulnerable to
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you know Birds of Prey and and stuff
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like that so I'm always looking for
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something that's you know that holds a
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lot of brush and so that's the main
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thing and on top of that too in my area
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I've got a lot of hills and hollers you
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you've been out here hunting with me yep
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and we've talked about this before it's
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a good mix of you know something that
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looks like Kansas and something that
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looks like you know Middle Kentucky you
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know it's just it's got the good parts
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of both of them and uh so I've got a lot
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of Rolling Hills got a lot of valleys
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I've got a lot of Creek uh a lot of
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fresh water and so me personally I look
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for those ridges I look for a ridge
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that's got maybe a lot of growth around
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the the edges of that Ridge I don't know
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why a cat wants to be on a ridge but it
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seems like everyone that I that I call
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off a ridge it it's coming somewhere off
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the the middle part of that Ridge like
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where they want to bed up in the middle
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of the day or whatever but I try to
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stick away you know stay away from uh
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anything that's you know pretty open you
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know I think a cat feels vulnerable you
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know out in the open and uh and you know
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nighttime guys they kill them cats out
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in the open which it's different you
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know they're those cats nocturnal coming
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out at night they're hunting BS they're
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hunting mice you know that are out in
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those pasture fields and stuff but a
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daytime cat he's he's he's B it down
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he's going to be over in that brush
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somewhere right so that that's what I'm
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looking for I'm looking for something
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that just and it don't have to be very
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big I've called cats out of a out of a
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Thicket on top of a ridge that probably
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wasn't no bigger than 75 yard radius you
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know of brush right you know it this
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it's just something about it they want
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to be in that's where they want to beted
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so that's what I look for yeah a lot of
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times that's all it takes you know then
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you know know here in in my part of the
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world here in Kentucky you know we've
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got
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probably I don't know you all got a lot
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of Timber too but you know we can get
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into bigger spreads of timber here in my
0:11:43.600,0:11:47.360
type in my part of the country and it's
0:11:45.440,0:11:50.160
total different type terrain it's the
0:11:47.360,0:11:52.200
it's knobby hilly rolling type country
0:11:50.160,0:11:53.760
not that you don't have that as well but
0:11:52.200,0:11:55.519
I guess it's one of the things when you
0:11:53.760,0:11:57.079
start talking about bobcats all across
0:11:55.519,0:12:00.200
the country everybody's going to run
0:11:57.079,0:12:01.240
into their own little uh Earth place is
0:12:00.200,0:12:02.959
going to be different you know you're
0:12:01.240,0:12:04.760
going to run into your own challenges
0:12:02.959,0:12:08.279
far as terrain goes and number of
0:12:04.760,0:12:09.959
animals and but but the Bobcat itself is
0:12:08.279,0:12:12.519
still always going to be the same type
0:12:09.959,0:12:16.600
of creature uh your creek bottoms River
0:12:12.519,0:12:18.360
bottoms stuff that's loged areas places
0:12:16.600,0:12:20.360
that are just growed up thick usually
0:12:18.360,0:12:22.360
those are hot spots for cats those are
0:12:20.360,0:12:25.800
definitely places to look definitely
0:12:22.360,0:12:28.320
places to key in on to try to call for
0:12:25.800,0:12:30.120
Bobcats um you just mentioned earlier
0:12:28.320,0:12:33.320
about how dry it's been in Missouri it's
0:12:30.120,0:12:36.360
been dry across most of the US so keying
0:12:33.320,0:12:38.880
in on on water sources can be key not
0:12:36.360,0:12:40.720
just because the Bobcats need water
0:12:38.880,0:12:42.920
because all the prey animals that they
0:12:40.720,0:12:45.079
prey on need the water as well so you're
0:12:42.920,0:12:46.320
going to have song birds rabbits all
0:12:45.079,0:12:47.800
that type of stuff it's going to be
0:12:46.320,0:12:49.000
congregating around that water as well
0:12:47.800,0:12:52.279
and it's just a perfect place for them
0:12:49.000,0:12:54.639
to hunt yes and a and a bobcat is an
0:12:52.279,0:12:58.320
ambush type Hunter that's you know
0:12:54.639,0:12:59.959
they're you know a ky they're more of a
0:12:58.320,0:13:03.079
opportunity you know they're running
0:12:59.959,0:13:05.959
around at night you know feeding off the
0:13:03.079,0:13:07.680
cow piles or bowls or something like
0:13:05.959,0:13:10.040
that and and a bobcat's a little bit
0:13:07.680,0:13:13.720
more of an ambush type Hunter they do
0:13:10.040,0:13:16.279
the same things as a ky does you know as
0:13:13.720,0:13:18.120
far as you know going out in them cow
0:13:16.279,0:13:20.120
pastures and stuff and and hunting mice
0:13:18.120,0:13:24.279
and whatnot but when they're on a rabbit
0:13:20.120,0:13:27.680
or a bird or even a you know a fawn deer
0:13:24.279,0:13:30.040
they're ambushing that you know to to to
0:13:27.680,0:13:32.920
try and kill it right
0:13:30.040,0:13:34.199
right well we just talked about what
0:13:32.920,0:13:37.079
type of stuff you you know what what are
0:13:34.199,0:13:39.120
you looking for in a Bobcat stand so let
0:13:37.079,0:13:41.519
me ask you this next question is once
0:13:39.120,0:13:43.399
you've found a stand location where
0:13:41.519,0:13:44.639
you've either have a bobcat scouted out
0:13:43.399,0:13:46.959
you know he's going to be in a certain
0:13:44.639,0:13:49.320
area or you found some kind of terrain
0:13:46.959,0:13:51.079
feature a certain habitat that you're
0:13:49.320,0:13:53.360
looking at say you know what that that
0:13:51.079,0:13:55.880
spot there might be holding a bobcat
0:13:53.360,0:13:58.320
let's talk about um once you actually
0:13:55.880,0:14:01.240
find your stand location how how do you
0:13:58.320,0:14:03.279
set up up when you're making an actual C
0:14:01.240,0:14:05.440
or Bobcat stand how far you setting your
0:14:03.279,0:14:07.120
call out what are you actually looking
0:14:05.440,0:14:09.320
for when you're starting to converge in
0:14:07.120,0:14:11.199
on that uh that spot to actually call
0:14:09.320,0:14:12.880
for a cat walk us on through that like
0:14:11.199,0:14:14.480
you're getting set all the way up to hit
0:14:12.880,0:14:17.480
and play on your
0:14:14.480,0:14:19.759
remote okay well the first thing when I
0:14:17.480,0:14:22.920
get when I find a location or if I you
0:14:19.759,0:14:26.800
know look at it on on and that's another
0:14:22.920,0:14:28.440
big key feature is once I do find a spot
0:14:26.800,0:14:31.079
that I think that might hold a cat I'll
0:14:28.440,0:14:35.360
also so go back and I'll look it up on
0:14:31.079,0:14:38.839
onx and try to find you know on the top
0:14:35.360,0:14:42.360
POS where the sharper parts of that that
0:14:38.839,0:14:47.839
Valley is you know and then I can go in
0:14:42.360,0:14:51.880
there find those areas I look for a good
0:14:47.839,0:14:53.920
backdrop uh that's that's key I always
0:14:51.880,0:14:57.040
give myself a good backdrop because cats
0:14:53.920,0:15:00.079
will pick you out so fast you know if
0:14:57.040,0:15:02.079
you're sitting up on top of a a knob and
0:15:00.079,0:15:04.199
ain't nothing around you that cat first
0:15:02.079,0:15:06.920
thing he's gonna do is look at you I and
0:15:04.199,0:15:08.680
it it's just what it is so that's the
0:15:06.920,0:15:13.440
first thing I look for I look I look in
0:15:08.680,0:15:17.160
my my map at that area I'm looking at
0:15:13.440,0:15:20.800
then I'll go in and I'll try to get
0:15:17.160,0:15:23.480
within no no more than a 100 yard I I
0:15:20.800,0:15:24.759
want to stay 100 yards and less from
0:15:23.480,0:15:27.600
that
0:15:24.759,0:15:31.240
area make sure I can see make sure I can
0:15:27.600,0:15:33.759
see everything around me and give me the
0:15:31.240,0:15:36.759
advantage and him only one advantage I
0:15:33.759,0:15:39.160
want the one advantage that he he has I
0:15:36.759,0:15:41.480
want to be that he could see the call
0:15:39.160,0:15:43.920
and see the decoy and you can't always
0:15:41.480,0:15:48.560
do that but that's that's what I try to
0:15:43.920,0:15:52.759
do uh so then on top of that I set my
0:15:48.560,0:15:54.600
call out about probably oh 25 30 yards
0:15:52.759,0:15:56.680
and it's either going to be I don't want
0:15:54.600,0:15:58.199
it right straight in line with where
0:15:56.680,0:16:01.079
where I'm calling at because I don't
0:15:58.199,0:16:04.360
want the C to see me the first thing he
0:16:01.079,0:16:06.759
does when he clears the brush so always
0:16:04.360,0:16:08.040
try to get it to I don't mean to
0:16:06.759,0:16:09.560
interrupt you but I actually got a
0:16:08.040,0:16:11.759
notebook sitting here and I was sitting
0:16:09.560,0:16:13.959
here thinking as you was walking us
0:16:11.759,0:16:16.440
through that I wrote down
0:16:13.959,0:16:18.240
here where you putting your call I just
0:16:16.440,0:16:19.800
got a note here where you place your
0:16:18.240,0:16:21.040
call at in conjunction with you and
0:16:19.800,0:16:23.600
where you think the cat's going to come
0:16:21.040,0:16:25.319
out cuz I was going to bring that up
0:16:23.600,0:16:27.040
okay exactly what you're saying right
0:16:25.319,0:16:29.000
there so keep on keep on going great
0:16:27.040,0:16:31.600
point right here everybody listen up
0:16:29.000,0:16:32.959
right here cuz this is key key key bit
0:16:31.600,0:16:36.480
of
0:16:32.959,0:16:39.639
information okay so getting back to call
0:16:36.480,0:16:42.639
placement uh once I find that area and I
0:16:39.639,0:16:45.560
place my call out I don't want that call
0:16:42.639,0:16:48.079
directly in line with the with the place
0:16:45.560,0:16:49.880
I'm expecting this cat to come out and
0:16:48.079,0:16:51.600
the reason is because I don't want to be
0:16:49.880,0:16:54.600
the first thing that cat sees when he
0:16:51.600,0:16:57.800
comes out of that brush so I always try
0:16:54.600,0:16:59.240
to place my call left or right of my
0:16:57.800,0:17:01.720
position
0:16:59.240,0:17:04.600
uh and it's usually it depends on the
0:17:01.720,0:17:06.439
the way the wind is blowing too John you
0:17:04.600,0:17:09.319
actually taught me something about Bob
0:17:06.439,0:17:11.559
Cat hunting uh here a year or two ago
0:17:09.319,0:17:13.880
that I really didn't really ever put in
0:17:11.559,0:17:18.079
this perspective I didn't think cats Ed
0:17:13.880,0:17:21.319
the wind like a coyot does right and gen
0:17:18.079,0:17:23.079
generally they don't but seems like a
0:17:21.319,0:17:26.559
cat that maybe might have been called in
0:17:23.079,0:17:28.679
before or is just an older cat they they
0:17:26.559,0:17:31.080
tend to do that and I actually got one
0:17:28.679,0:17:32.960
on video last year after you and I had
0:17:31.080,0:17:35.919
actually talked about it and after I
0:17:32.960,0:17:37.720
killed that Bobcat I'm like John John's
0:17:35.919,0:17:40.000
absolutely right it it just happened to
0:17:37.720,0:17:43.400
me you know that cat tried to cut the
0:17:40.000,0:17:46.400
wind on the call and and he ended up did
0:17:43.400,0:17:48.919
but I was I was in his way from getting
0:17:46.400,0:17:50.720
away so kind of wor it kind of worked
0:17:48.919,0:17:53.240
out in my advantage so that's a good
0:17:50.720,0:17:55.880
point too right there I always try to
0:17:53.240,0:17:59.159
set it up somewhat like a coyote stand
0:17:55.880,0:18:01.919
too because of the win so
0:17:59.159,0:18:04.600
with me moving that call left or right
0:18:01.919,0:18:07.960
in my position keeps the cat's eyes off
0:18:04.600,0:18:10.960
of me and on the sound and then I go
0:18:07.960,0:18:12.600
from there right that's and that's the
0:18:10.960,0:18:14.200
talking about placing that call where
0:18:12.600,0:18:16.120
it's not in line with you and where the
0:18:14.200,0:18:19.799
B where you think the Bobcat's going to
0:18:16.120,0:18:22.600
come out or where a bobcat is uh they
0:18:19.799,0:18:24.480
get so keyed in on the sound I mean when
0:18:22.600,0:18:27.679
they come out usually they're staring a
0:18:24.480,0:18:29.280
hole right through that call well if
0:18:27.679,0:18:31.200
they come out and they're staring right
0:18:29.280,0:18:32.960
at that call and then you're the next
0:18:31.200,0:18:34.799
thing right behind it to take a c and
0:18:32.960,0:18:37.159
you start moving guess what they going
0:18:34.799,0:18:39.559
to pick you off so it is key bit bit of
0:18:37.159,0:18:42.559
information I always try to offset the
0:18:39.559,0:18:44.360
call somewhere where if when the cat
0:18:42.559,0:18:46.400
comes out he's going to be looking at
0:18:44.360,0:18:48.799
the call and there's no way he can see
0:18:46.400,0:18:50.159
me unless he has to turn his head left
0:18:48.799,0:18:51.640
or right you know what I mean I don't
0:18:50.159,0:18:53.480
want him to be looking straight at the
0:18:51.640,0:18:55.880
call then straight into me so that's a
0:18:53.480,0:18:57.600
great great point and the next thing
0:18:55.880,0:18:59.039
that Cory just brought up was wind
0:18:57.600,0:19:00.600
direction
0:18:59.039,0:19:02.360
I've actually got that down as the next
0:19:00.600,0:19:03.679
thing I was going to mention to Corey
0:19:02.360,0:19:07.120
and we'll go ahead and start talking
0:19:03.679,0:19:10.960
about that one um I guess would be a
0:19:07.120,0:19:13.039
myth you might say and I have seen where
0:19:10.960,0:19:15.039
people have wrote this in articles I
0:19:13.039,0:19:17.679
have seen where they have wrote this you
0:19:15.039,0:19:19.559
know type this out on social media pages
0:19:17.679,0:19:20.840
and stuff like that when the topic comes
0:19:19.559,0:19:23.280
up they'll talk when they're talking
0:19:20.840,0:19:25.240
about when they'll tell you that a
0:19:23.280,0:19:27.280
bobcat doesn't care about the wind I'm
0:19:25.240,0:19:29.840
here to tell you it's false I have seen
0:19:27.280,0:19:33.000
on a couple more than a couple occasions
0:19:29.840,0:19:35.000
where a bobcat has actually boogered
0:19:33.000,0:19:37.000
when I say boogered I mean like got
0:19:35.000,0:19:39.760
spooked and run off because he has
0:19:37.000,0:19:42.360
winded the hunter I've actually filmed
0:19:39.760,0:19:44.840
it I mean I can show you video evidence
0:19:42.360,0:19:47.120
of a cat come out and actually hit the
0:19:44.840,0:19:50.000
scent con hit my scent cone and the
0:19:47.120,0:19:52.080
cameraman scent cone stop right in its
0:19:50.000,0:19:54.720
tracks look around a little bit turn
0:19:52.080,0:19:58.000
around and run off just like a coyot
0:19:54.720,0:19:59.280
would so they can booger on your not
0:19:58.000,0:20:01.159
saying every one of them cuz I have
0:19:59.280,0:20:03.280
called in Bobcats that showed up from
0:20:01.159,0:20:05.679
directions I didn't expect them to and
0:20:03.280,0:20:07.640
walked right to the call with every bit
0:20:05.679,0:20:09.880
of my wind blowing right up their snout
0:20:07.640,0:20:12.720
and they didn't care but I have caught
0:20:09.880,0:20:15.200
run into situations where some cats do
0:20:12.720,0:20:17.679
so I always hunt the wind even when I'm
0:20:15.200,0:20:20.600
calling for Bobcats and another reason I
0:20:17.679,0:20:23.000
do that if I've got a a Thicket that I
0:20:20.600,0:20:24.880
know what Bobcat's held up in I want to
0:20:23.000,0:20:26.559
make sure the wind is my favor I don't
0:20:24.880,0:20:29.240
want my wind blowing from me to that
0:20:26.559,0:20:32.000
Thicket not just because of Bobcat but
0:20:29.240,0:20:33.440
also because of coyes cuz Cory guess
0:20:32.000,0:20:35.760
what's going to happen if I start
0:20:33.440,0:20:38.200
playing Mrs MC Cotton Tail and a big old
0:20:35.760,0:20:40.440
fuzzy coyot runs out I'm gonna bust his
0:20:38.200,0:20:41.960
H end you know what I mean oh yeah oh
0:20:40.440,0:20:44.000
yeah and guess what's going to happen if
0:20:41.960,0:20:45.120
I start calling and my winds blowing
0:20:44.000,0:20:47.520
down in there what's going to happen
0:20:45.120,0:20:50.559
with that Coy and he's going the other
0:20:47.520,0:20:53.679
way exactly so I always want to hunt the
0:20:50.559,0:20:57.000
wind no matter what I'm calling for
0:20:53.679,0:20:58.280
because all coou are always you know if
0:20:57.000,0:21:00.159
they come out to the call when I'm
0:20:58.280,0:21:02.440
calling for Bobcats I'm not giving them
0:21:00.159,0:21:04.200
no passes there's no free free passes
0:21:02.440,0:21:05.919
right here with John Collins he's going
0:21:04.200,0:21:08.280
the K's going to get it and another
0:21:05.919,0:21:12.360
thing like I said I have seen
0:21:08.280,0:21:14.600
Bobcats booger on on win and run off and
0:21:12.360,0:21:16.279
and they if you you know when people
0:21:14.600,0:21:17.679
call out Bobcats usually come a little
0:21:16.279,0:21:20.039
on hinge and they shoot them pretty
0:21:17.679,0:21:21.840
quick but if you'll watch a bobcat and
0:21:20.039,0:21:23.840
let him do his thing and let him come up
0:21:21.840,0:21:25.720
her to the call you'll actually see this
0:21:23.840,0:21:28.360
a lot they won't start circling out to
0:21:25.720,0:21:30.200
the downwind side like a ky usually does
0:21:28.360,0:21:32.279
you know from far off but what'll happen
0:21:30.200,0:21:35.000
if you let them get close enough using
0:21:32.279,0:21:37.000
that last 10 15 20 steps you'll see them
0:21:35.000,0:21:38.440
start to circle the call oh yeah and
0:21:37.000,0:21:40.919
using walk the direction they're
0:21:38.440,0:21:44.240
circling is to the downwind
0:21:40.919,0:21:47.520
side happens a lot it does happen a lot
0:21:44.240,0:21:49.559
and like you said I you know I I thought
0:21:47.520,0:21:51.480
it was a mythical thing up until a
0:21:49.559,0:21:54.520
couple years ago when we when you and I
0:21:51.480,0:21:56.919
got the talking about it but last year I
0:21:54.520,0:21:59.679
actually filmed it too I mean and the
0:21:56.919,0:22:02.960
cat didn't cut my scent cone he actually
0:21:59.679,0:22:05.000
cut the scent cone on the call and just
0:22:02.960,0:22:07.039
so happened I was I was in between him
0:22:05.000,0:22:08.679
and the call so it like I said it worked
0:22:07.039,0:22:11.080
out in my advantage there right it
0:22:08.679,0:22:14.120
didn't didn't help him none did it no it
0:22:11.080,0:22:16.120
didn't hey speaking speaking of not
0:22:14.120,0:22:18.520
speaking of things working out or not
0:22:16.120,0:22:21.279
working out I heard you I heard you
0:22:18.520,0:22:23.559
missed a bobcat there a week or two ago
0:22:21.279,0:22:27.200
boy those those sure do hurt don't they
0:22:23.559,0:22:28.840
I know you've missed them I have I have
0:22:27.200,0:22:30.520
tell tell them about tell us about that
0:22:28.840,0:22:33.559
stand that was just here just a few days
0:22:30.520,0:22:36.919
ago right it's been yeah probably about
0:22:33.559,0:22:41.120
10 days ago um first cat I called into
0:22:36.919,0:22:44.520
the season and this this will go into a
0:22:41.120,0:22:46.559
lot of what we're talking about too um
0:22:44.520,0:22:48.720
actually when I seen this Bobcat I
0:22:46.559,0:22:50.720
actually thought it was a coyote I seen
0:22:48.720,0:22:54.440
this cat this cat running in from about
0:22:50.720,0:22:57.640
four or 500 yards away across an open
0:22:54.440,0:22:59.159
pasture he was he was close to Timber
0:22:57.640,0:23:01.159
but he was running right down the edge
0:22:59.159,0:23:05.240
of it and I thought well here comes a
0:23:01.159,0:23:07.480
bobcat or excuse me here comes a Kyo and
0:23:05.240,0:23:08.919
I turned my position because he was
0:23:07.480,0:23:11.440
coming from a direction I wasn't
0:23:08.919,0:23:14.080
expecting anything to come from and he
0:23:11.440,0:23:16.240
gets about 300 yards and I noticed I'm
0:23:14.080,0:23:20.240
like that's that's
0:23:16.240,0:23:22.279
Bobcat so I actually cut the sound off
0:23:20.240,0:23:24.480
because if he was down win I really
0:23:22.279,0:23:25.200
didn't want him to come straight into
0:23:24.480,0:23:28.960
the
0:23:25.200,0:23:31.320
call and once I realized was going on I
0:23:28.960,0:23:34.360
turned the call back on yep but what
0:23:31.320,0:23:35.919
happened is that cat when I after I
0:23:34.360,0:23:39.200
turned that call off and I'm talking
0:23:35.919,0:23:42.520
like 20 seconds he he already lost
0:23:39.200,0:23:44.640
interest and so I'm watching this cat
0:23:42.520,0:23:47.440
come down this hill and he's actually
0:23:44.640,0:23:49.840
going away from the call at this point
0:23:47.440,0:23:52.600
and I thought well I just I might as
0:23:49.840,0:23:55.520
well shoot him right there so I leaned
0:23:52.600,0:23:58.400
in on my Swagger bipods to try to get a
0:23:55.520,0:24:00.039
good steady shot and I
0:23:58.400,0:24:02.720
almost had the shot I had my safety
0:24:00.039,0:24:04.919
flicked off and the cat was actually
0:24:02.720,0:24:07.080
mousing out there and he he was jumping
0:24:04.919,0:24:09.679
around and he moved position so I had to
0:24:07.080,0:24:11.600
reset my stick and I was leaning back in
0:24:09.679,0:24:14.279
for that shot again to get real steady
0:24:11.600,0:24:16.000
on them on them Swagger bipods and my
0:24:14.279,0:24:18.440
finger hit the trigger and I shot right
0:24:16.000,0:24:21.880
in front of him I was not even ready to
0:24:18.440,0:24:23.960
shoot yet when the gun went off that's
0:24:21.880,0:24:26.320
the problems with the you know wearing
0:24:23.960,0:24:28.799
gloves when you're hunting sometimes but
0:24:26.320,0:24:33.080
completely on me I missed that Cat
0:24:28.799,0:24:34.960
filmed him really really nice cat and
0:24:33.080,0:24:37.159
well maybe I'll go back in and kill him
0:24:34.960,0:24:40.200
here in the next few weeks I don't know
0:24:37.159,0:24:41.360
what see pretty good cat you said well
0:24:40.200,0:24:45.000
it sound like it was you thought it was
0:24:41.360,0:24:47.120
a coyote at first must be yeah I mean he
0:24:45.000,0:24:49.960
was pretty good cat I'd say in that mid
0:24:47.120,0:24:52.080
mid 20s range probably about around a 25
0:24:49.960,0:24:54.600
pound cat that's a good cat anything in
0:24:52.080,0:24:57.240
mid 20s is up the big cat if you ask me
0:24:54.600,0:24:59.279
so yeah maybe not to the guys down there
0:24:57.240,0:25:01.000
hunting the big Bobcat contest down in
0:24:59.279,0:25:03.399
Texas that's not a big cat for them
0:25:01.000,0:25:06.000
they're looking for a lot bigger but
0:25:03.399,0:25:08.080
well when you got six 600 teams you're
0:25:06.000,0:25:10.440
competing against you know you you got
0:25:08.080,0:25:12.720
to get all the weight you can down there
0:25:10.440,0:25:14.480
so well we've talk we've talked a little
0:25:12.720,0:25:16.600
bit about St selction we talked about
0:25:14.480,0:25:18.840
scouting there just a little bit tus on
0:25:16.600,0:25:20.360
all that stuff and and like I said guys
0:25:18.840,0:25:22.080
that type of stuff goes a long way but
0:25:20.360,0:25:24.279
we talked about the stand selection
0:25:22.080,0:25:25.880
stand setup now we're getting right up
0:25:24.279,0:25:28.760
there close to start talking about
0:25:25.880,0:25:30.440
sounds and uh sequel es and stuff like
0:25:28.760,0:25:32.840
that but I want to ask you about before
0:25:30.440,0:25:35.440
we start talking about specific St
0:25:32.840,0:25:38.799
sounds uh let's talk about call volume a
0:25:35.440,0:25:41.120
little bit Cory what what what range are
0:25:38.799,0:25:42.960
you running your sounds as far as call
0:25:41.120,0:25:45.039
volume goes and let everybody know which
0:25:42.960,0:25:49.080
which unit you're running so they know
0:25:45.039,0:25:51.440
kind of com what to compare with okay so
0:25:49.080,0:25:54.039
I I've been running the x24 ever since
0:25:51.440,0:25:55.279
it come out and I that's the call I'm
0:25:54.039,0:25:59.960
still currently
0:25:55.279,0:26:03.399
using so most of my cat stands when I
0:25:59.960,0:26:05.760
when I start my sound it's usually not
0:26:03.399,0:26:08.200
not 50% volume I'm usually starting
0:26:05.760,0:26:11.039
around that 20 range so it's a little
0:26:08.200,0:26:14.679
less than 50% no I guess that is 50% it
0:26:11.039,0:26:17.880
goes to 40 my apology yep so I guess I'm
0:26:14.679,0:26:20.320
right there at 50% and that that's where
0:26:17.880,0:26:22.520
I always start my stand at and the
0:26:20.320,0:26:24.200
reason being is I don't want to push
0:26:22.520,0:26:27.039
anything out of the area with too much
0:26:24.200,0:26:29.600
volume so that's where I start at and
0:26:27.039,0:26:33.600
immediately immediately when I start my
0:26:29.600,0:26:36.279
call within the first 30 seconds I'm I'm
0:26:33.600,0:26:39.520
on the the remote or the volume key I'm
0:26:36.279,0:26:43.399
up and down I'll ramp that sound up
0:26:39.520,0:26:47.320
maybe take it to 24 to 26 I think I've
0:26:43.399,0:26:50.520
got M set on you know two second or two
0:26:47.320,0:26:53.679
volume increments yep and then bring it
0:26:50.520,0:26:58.279
back down to 50% and then I'll take it
0:26:53.679,0:27:01.360
sometimes as low as 10 on the volume
0:26:58.279,0:27:04.080
uh and the reason being when I do that
0:27:01.360,0:27:06.480
it's usually later in my stand when I
0:27:04.080,0:27:09.840
when I take my volume way down like that
0:27:06.480,0:27:12.360
because I've seen it more than once the
0:27:09.840,0:27:14.240
cat sometimes if they hang up and you
0:27:12.360,0:27:16.679
don't see them if you don't know that
0:27:14.240,0:27:19.159
cat's anywhere in the area you take that
0:27:16.679,0:27:21.159
volume way down I think that cat really
0:27:19.159,0:27:24.240
feels like the sound's going away from
0:27:21.159,0:27:26.960
it right and i' I've seen cats when you
0:27:24.240,0:27:29.760
turn that sound down they'll posture up
0:27:26.960,0:27:32.240
and they'll they'll start coming on in
0:27:29.760,0:27:34.559
and I I know you've done it we've all
0:27:32.240,0:27:36.080
seen cats hang up there's sometimes
0:27:34.559,0:27:37.559
there ain't nothing you can do they
0:27:36.080,0:27:39.159
might be sitting at 100 yards and
0:27:37.559,0:27:41.799
they'll just sit there doesn't matter
0:27:39.159,0:27:43.640
what stand you play but so that's why I
0:27:41.799,0:27:46.720
always play with that volume I'll ramp
0:27:43.640,0:27:49.080
it up especially on a windy day really
0:27:46.720,0:27:51.799
get that sound out there and then bring
0:27:49.080,0:27:54.080
it back 50% and like I said get towards
0:27:51.799,0:27:57.399
the end of my stand really ramp that
0:27:54.080,0:27:58.240
down down there about about 10 or 12
0:27:57.399,0:28:01.399
yeah
0:27:58.240,0:28:04.600
yep so you're running everything from
0:28:01.399,0:28:08.159
volume 10 on the x24 all the way up to
0:28:04.600,0:28:10.519
26ish we might say yeah yeah I usually
0:28:08.159,0:28:12.559
don't get much higher than that I'm not
0:28:10.519,0:28:14.919
gonna say I don't just a lot of times
0:28:12.559,0:28:16.840
I'm not looking down at the remote you
0:28:14.919,0:28:19.320
know paying attention to my you know
0:28:16.840,0:28:21.519
levels of my volume right right I try to
0:28:19.320,0:28:24.279
stay in that area yeah well we're pretty
0:28:21.519,0:28:26.480
similar on that I'm usually I'm like you
0:28:24.279,0:28:28.799
said I'm starting out around 50% it's
0:28:26.480,0:28:31.080
usually around 18 2022 somewhere in
0:28:28.799,0:28:33.640
there then I'm just like you said I'm
0:28:31.080,0:28:36.440
I'm ramping the volume I'm I'm a I'm big
0:28:33.640,0:28:37.919
on using the volume keys up and down
0:28:36.440,0:28:39.320
anytime I'm running any kind of prey
0:28:37.919,0:28:41.559
distress I'm doing that it doesn't
0:28:39.320,0:28:44.000
matter if I'm calling for Bob Kats Coy
0:28:41.559,0:28:47.120
fox or whatever it just creates a little
0:28:44.000,0:28:50.120
bit of realism I think that adds to it
0:28:47.120,0:28:53.039
um I don't get as low as you I'll be
0:28:50.120,0:28:55.640
down around everywhere from 15 16 is
0:28:53.039,0:28:58.039
about the lowest as I go and I will get
0:28:55.640,0:29:01.039
a little bit louder uh sometimes I'll
0:28:58.039,0:29:03.760
get up to 28 and sometimes even 30 it
0:29:01.039,0:29:05.720
depends on the stand itself of course uh
0:29:03.760,0:29:08.720
but I don't keep it that loud very long
0:29:05.720,0:29:13.880
at all the most no most time my sound's
0:29:08.720,0:29:17.279
going to be in that 22 to 24 25 26 uh
0:29:13.880,0:29:19.640
level I keep my my remote is set on
0:29:17.279,0:29:22.000
single increments you know every time
0:29:19.640,0:29:23.559
I'm hitting up it's just jumping one one
0:29:22.000,0:29:25.919
sound Notch and every time I'm hitting
0:29:23.559,0:29:28.120
down it's just one sound Notch so that's
0:29:25.919,0:29:30.039
just a difference in you know what you
0:29:28.120,0:29:31.559
like to run and I like to run there's NE
0:29:30.039,0:29:32.799
neither one of them's right or wrong I
0:29:31.559,0:29:34.679
mean they're both right because they
0:29:32.799,0:29:37.679
both work so it's just personal
0:29:34.679,0:29:39.960
preference there but uh um that's that's
0:29:37.679,0:29:45.039
great stuff there you go about call
0:29:39.960,0:29:49.039
volume um the other units from Fox Pro
0:29:45.039,0:29:51.760
the x24 is loud that's a loud unit so 26
0:29:49.039,0:29:55.080
28 on that going to be a lot louder than
0:29:51.760,0:29:56.559
26 or 28 on a fox Pro Shockwave which is
0:29:55.080,0:29:59.000
another great unit but you can probably
0:29:56.559,0:30:01.080
run your shock wave a little bit louder
0:29:59.000,0:30:05.120
all your other unions like the prowers
0:30:01.080,0:30:06.240
and and uh Hellcat and Hellcat Pro
0:30:05.120,0:30:07.960
you're going to be able to run those on
0:30:06.240,0:30:10.039
a higher higher level you know your
0:30:07.960,0:30:11.799
Hellcat and your Prowler you can don't
0:30:10.039,0:30:13.760
be scared to run them at full volume
0:30:11.799,0:30:16.200
because they're just not near as loud as
0:30:13.760,0:30:18.000
x24 now that sound still getting out
0:30:16.200,0:30:20.440
there I see a lot of people all the time
0:30:18.000,0:30:21.720
say I don't think my call is loud enough
0:30:20.440,0:30:23.480
well there it's getting out a lot better
0:30:21.720,0:30:25.919
than you think but you can run like that
0:30:23.480,0:30:28.919
Prowler and Hellcat quite a you know
0:30:25.919,0:30:32.600
closer to full max volume and you won't
0:30:28.919,0:30:34.760
be spooking no cats but U all this good
0:30:32.600,0:30:36.519
stuff Cory appreciate that time to start
0:30:34.760,0:30:38.720
talking about some sounds and sound
0:30:36.519,0:30:40.600
sequences that's why everybody jumped on
0:30:38.720,0:30:42.679
here because like you said when we start
0:30:40.600,0:30:44.480
uh posting stuff about bobcats or they
0:30:42.679,0:30:46.919
see us killing them or watch
0:30:44.480,0:30:48.399
videos they don't ever care care about
0:30:46.919,0:30:50.200
the stand selection or nothing like that
0:30:48.399,0:30:51.480
they won't know what sound you using so
0:30:50.200,0:30:53.200
we're going to talk about that w't you
0:30:51.480,0:30:55.880
talk about some of your favorite sounds
0:30:53.200,0:30:59.159
that you like to use uh for Bobcats what
0:30:55.880,0:31:01.559
you've had your most Lu of in the past
0:30:59.159,0:31:03.080
uh and then we'll go right into giving a
0:31:01.559,0:31:05.000
sound sequence but what type of sounds
0:31:03.080,0:31:08.320
you like playing for a bob Kat
0:31:05.000,0:31:10.600
stand uh well I know I've got a lot of
0:31:08.320,0:31:12.720
people that tune into this podcast that
0:31:10.600,0:31:16.360
follow me and they all know my favorite
0:31:12.720,0:31:18.519
sound is Mrs MC Cotton Tail I just I
0:31:16.360,0:31:20.200
just absolutely love it I've called in
0:31:18.519,0:31:23.960
all kinds of stuff with it actually this
0:31:20.200,0:31:26.960
week I've called in I've called in a a a
0:31:23.960,0:31:29.840
two red fox or excuse me two gray fox
0:31:26.960,0:31:32.559
and a bobcat this week with Mrs MC
0:31:29.840,0:31:35.679
Cotton Tail so it's it's at the top of
0:31:32.559,0:31:38.720
my list for Bobcat but uh other than
0:31:35.679,0:31:42.000
that I really like kg Cotton Tail it's
0:31:38.720,0:31:44.639
it's right there almost dead even as far
0:31:42.000,0:31:47.880
as one of my favorite sounds for Bobcat
0:31:44.639,0:31:52.080
and then I'm a huge fan of baby
0:31:47.880,0:31:55.039
Cottontail yep but don't think that none
0:31:52.080,0:31:58.120
of these other sounds that fox pro has
0:31:55.039,0:32:00.320
out or mfk has out that are Cotton Tail
0:31:58.120,0:32:02.600
sounds don't think they won't work
0:32:00.320,0:32:05.320
because I've called in Bobcat with every
0:32:02.600,0:32:07.360
one of them I'm pretty sure right so
0:32:05.320,0:32:09.080
they they're all effective these are
0:32:07.360,0:32:11.639
just the these are just the sounds that
0:32:09.080,0:32:14.840
are my my top three and what I like to
0:32:11.639,0:32:18.240
use and that fit you know my style right
0:32:14.840,0:32:19.480
so well and I'm the same way I'm a when
0:32:18.240,0:32:22.559
it comes to
0:32:19.480,0:32:26.519
Bobcats I I'm definitely a cottontail
0:32:22.559,0:32:27.639
distress guy um yeah now like you said I
0:32:26.519,0:32:30.480
have called
0:32:27.639,0:32:32.840
bobcats in on other type rabbit sounds
0:32:30.480,0:32:35.639
I've called them in on Snowshoe sounds
0:32:32.840,0:32:38.799
that old Snowshoe hair HP from Fox Pro
0:32:35.639,0:32:41.240
I've called in man tons of tons of
0:32:38.799,0:32:43.639
bobcats and coyes to that I still use it
0:32:41.240,0:32:45.600
today I've called them in with Jack
0:32:43.639,0:32:47.919
Rabbit sounds the old school jack rabbit
0:32:45.600,0:32:49.960
sound from Fox Pro Lightning Jack you
0:32:47.919,0:32:51.720
know the infamous Lightning Jack I've
0:32:49.960,0:32:54.080
caught a lot of bobcast the Lightning
0:32:51.720,0:32:56.440
Jack and I actually still use them in my
0:32:54.080,0:32:59.039
sequence I hold them towards later on in
0:32:56.440,0:33:02.600
the sequence and usually reason later on
0:32:59.039,0:33:06.639
is cuz how I usually run my sequences
0:33:02.600,0:33:09.440
I'm in increasing in intensity with
0:33:06.639,0:33:12.240
sounds as as I change you know I start
0:33:09.440,0:33:14.639
with a with a you know a lighter type
0:33:12.240,0:33:16.480
like I say a baby Cotton Tail and I just
0:33:14.639,0:33:20.000
when every time I switch sounds it's
0:33:16.480,0:33:21.760
increasing in in intensity you know
0:33:20.000,0:33:24.399
there ain't much more intense than
0:33:21.760,0:33:26.360
Lightning Jack so it's usually last one
0:33:24.399,0:33:28.519
that gets played but I'm right there
0:33:26.360,0:33:32.799
with you my two favorite sounds are Ki
0:33:28.519,0:33:35.440
and K Cotton Tail Mrs MC Cotton Tail um
0:33:32.799,0:33:38.679
they're always in my sound sequence when
0:33:35.440,0:33:40.600
I'm focusing in on cats two other sounds
0:33:38.679,0:33:42.080
that are killers for me especially when
0:33:40.600,0:33:44.320
it comes for Bobcats and you just
0:33:42.080,0:33:47.399
mentioned one of them is baby Cotton
0:33:44.320,0:33:50.159
Tail and uh it it's just good for all
0:33:47.399,0:33:52.799
predators and then to name a fourth one
0:33:50.159,0:33:55.399
Eastern Cotton Tail Eastern Cotton Tail
0:33:52.799,0:33:57.960
has been a been a really good cat collar
0:33:55.399,0:34:00.960
for me all acrost the country I think
0:33:57.960,0:34:03.080
I've uh I've called bobcats in three or
0:34:00.960,0:34:05.039
four different states to Eastern Eastern
0:34:03.080,0:34:06.399
Cotton Tail and when I talk about
0:34:05.039,0:34:07.960
Eastern Cotton Tail you know a lot of
0:34:06.399,0:34:09.760
guys and they might see that sound fire
0:34:07.960,0:34:12.200
like Eastern Cotton Tail well I just run
0:34:09.760,0:34:14.399
that east of the Mississippi no I've
0:34:12.200,0:34:17.240
called a bob cat I didn't kill the cat
0:34:14.399,0:34:18.520
because it wasn't uh I wasn't allowed to
0:34:17.240,0:34:19.839
at the time when we called in I didn't
0:34:18.520,0:34:22.399
have the proper permit and stuff we just
0:34:19.839,0:34:24.760
call for cows but I was up in uh the
0:34:22.399,0:34:28.079
Northwest excuse me up in the Northwest
0:34:24.760,0:34:30.399
up in Oregon and uh was in the mountains
0:34:28.079,0:34:33.320
and caught up a big old fuzzy Bobcat to
0:34:30.399,0:34:35.320
Eastern Cotton Tail so one one great
0:34:33.320,0:34:39.520
sound that don't get talked about a
0:34:35.320,0:34:41.320
whole lot but is a absolute Bobcat Colin
0:34:39.520,0:34:44.560
sound his Eastern
0:34:41.320,0:34:47.000
Contin and I know I I hunt with some
0:34:44.560,0:34:48.679
guys I I'm not going to give any any
0:34:47.000,0:34:50.760
details on where these guys are at they
0:34:48.679,0:34:52.480
might get mad at me if I tell them you
0:34:50.760,0:34:53.679
know about the sounds they're running in
0:34:52.480,0:34:57.240
the area they're running they hunt a lot
0:34:53.679,0:35:00.400
of contest but uh hunt with a couple
0:34:57.240,0:35:04.240
guys out of state and uh they kill a lot
0:35:00.400,0:35:06.000
of bobcats and they really surprised me
0:35:04.240,0:35:07.520
here about four or five years ago when
0:35:06.000,0:35:11.359
they told me one of the sounds that they
0:35:07.520,0:35:14.560
were using to kill Bobcats with and it's
0:35:11.359,0:35:16.960
getting distressed oh really yep yeah
0:35:14.560,0:35:20.560
they and they that's one of their go-to
0:35:16.960,0:35:22.760
sounds is getting distressed and I'm not
0:35:20.560,0:35:24.839
brave enough to use it around here I am
0:35:22.760,0:35:28.079
not going to say I'd say it' work no
0:35:24.839,0:35:30.000
doubt oh oh I'm sure it will I I use
0:35:28.079,0:35:31.760
it's one of my sounds that I'll use at
0:35:30.000,0:35:33.400
the end of my stand it's like you know
0:35:31.760,0:35:36.480
that last
0:35:33.400,0:35:38.680
Co yeah I tried everything else while it
0:35:36.480,0:35:40.880
going to hurt type thing
0:35:38.680,0:35:42.440
exactly hey I tell you other I tell you
0:35:40.880,0:35:45.520
other sounds that are great that I that
0:35:42.440,0:35:47.119
I don't use much for Bobcats I have used
0:35:45.520,0:35:49.920
them in the past and I've had success
0:35:47.119,0:35:52.359
with them is bird sounds bird sounds are
0:35:49.920,0:35:53.760
are killer now I'm just such I just have
0:35:52.359,0:35:55.760
so much luck with Cotton Tail I just
0:35:53.760,0:35:57.359
don't steer away from it much but
0:35:55.760,0:35:59.319
there's been several different bird
0:35:57.359,0:36:01.599
sounds different woodpeckers nutty nut
0:35:59.319,0:36:05.599
hatch several bird sounds that I've I've
0:36:01.599,0:36:07.760
called cats too as well I know um I know
0:36:05.599,0:36:09.160
some guys that kind of like what you
0:36:07.760,0:36:10.599
talking about I can tell where they're
0:36:09.160,0:36:12.119
hunting they're hunting here in Kentucky
0:36:10.599,0:36:14.760
they're a few counties away from me but
0:36:12.119,0:36:17.560
they call a bunch of bunch of bobcats to
0:36:14.760,0:36:19.480
cardinal cardinal distresses like cranky
0:36:17.560,0:36:20.920
Cardinal and stuff like that which makes
0:36:19.480,0:36:22.560
sense for Kentucky because if you know
0:36:20.920,0:36:25.079
anybody knows anything about basketball
0:36:22.560,0:36:27.839
if you follow college basketball at all
0:36:25.079,0:36:30.160
a Kentucky wild cat love loves tearing
0:36:27.839,0:36:33.200
up a Louisville Cardinal so it just
0:36:30.160,0:36:33.200
makes sense you know what I
0:36:33.520,0:36:38.960
mean that's pretty good right there yeah
0:36:36.400,0:36:41.599
well tell tell us walk us through a a
0:36:38.960,0:36:44.280
bobcat cin sequence that Corey grath
0:36:41.599,0:36:48.040
likes to run and has a lot of success
0:36:44.280,0:36:51.400
with well and and I'll I'll just reframe
0:36:48.040,0:36:54.119
to to some of this calling it's not
0:36:51.400,0:36:56.280
exciting calling it's not like you know
0:36:54.119,0:36:58.240
throwing vocals out there to coyotes and
0:36:56.280,0:37:00.920
getting responses and stuff like that
0:36:58.240,0:37:04.040
it's it's a little bit more boring type
0:37:00.920,0:37:05.760
of calling uh just because it's it's
0:37:04.040,0:37:09.000
kind of monness you know listen to the
0:37:05.760,0:37:11.280
same rabbit over and over and over um
0:37:09.000,0:37:15.480
but to kill a bobcat to me that's that's
0:37:11.280,0:37:17.960
what you got to do so I start out either
0:37:15.480,0:37:20.640
one or the other the top of my list is
0:37:17.960,0:37:23.440
going to be either kg Cottontail or Miss
0:37:20.640,0:37:25.839
MC cottonil like John and I talked
0:37:23.440,0:37:28.880
before immediately I'm going to start
0:37:25.839,0:37:32.720
running that volume volume up and down
0:37:28.880,0:37:36.079
play that sound for usually four to six
0:37:32.720,0:37:38.720
minutes and if I and here's another tip
0:37:36.079,0:37:40.960
I don't change the sound if I see a cat
0:37:38.720,0:37:43.599
coming uh there's no need to he's
0:37:40.960,0:37:46.240
already locked on the to the sound he's
0:37:43.599,0:37:48.520
coming there's no need to to switch the
0:37:46.240,0:37:50.800
call as long as he's moving and he ain't
0:37:48.520,0:37:52.920
hung up I'm gonna I'm Gonna Keep playing
0:37:50.800,0:37:57.240
that sound whether it it takes him 10
0:37:52.920,0:38:00.720
minutes to get there um but if not like
0:37:57.240,0:38:04.079
I said running that four minutes to Six
0:38:00.720,0:38:06.000
Minutes uh right at the end of that four
0:38:04.079,0:38:08.119
to six minutes I'll probably run that
0:38:06.000,0:38:10.400
sound down a little bit where it's
0:38:08.119,0:38:12.920
pretty low volume before I flip to my
0:38:10.400,0:38:15.480
next sound I never cut it off never give
0:38:12.920,0:38:18.480
it a pause I'll just roll right into
0:38:15.480,0:38:21.400
either kg cotton pill or Mrs MC cotton
0:38:18.480,0:38:25.480
pill and I'll start my sequence all over
0:38:21.400,0:38:29.400
again keep it going run that another
0:38:25.480,0:38:32.680
four to five 6 minutes volume up volume
0:38:29.400,0:38:33.640
down and still if nothing's changed
0:38:32.680,0:38:35.760
nothing's
0:38:33.640,0:38:38.800
coming I may run
0:38:35.760,0:38:40.560
into one of the many sounds that you and
0:38:38.800,0:38:43.400
I been talking about that's where I get
0:38:40.560,0:38:46.720
start to get to the end of my rope uh
0:38:43.400,0:38:49.359
I'm like you I I start picking out other
0:38:46.720,0:38:52.400
other sounds it may be a baby Cotton
0:38:49.359,0:38:55.119
Tail it may be the CF Cottontail maybe
0:38:52.400,0:38:57.079
the DSG cotton till which is another
0:38:55.119,0:38:58.839
very good sound one that I haven't
0:38:57.079,0:39:02.040
probably mentioned on this podcast
0:38:58.839,0:39:05.000
before I've called a ton of stuff in
0:39:02.040,0:39:08.079
with that DSG Cotton Tail so it's in my
0:39:05.000,0:39:09.640
Arsenal it's it's it's in my you know
0:39:08.079,0:39:12.480
Cottontail
0:39:09.640,0:39:15.960
category uh but most likely I'm probably
0:39:12.480,0:39:19.680
going to stick with with uh either kg
0:39:15.960,0:39:22.079
Cotton Tail uh Mrs MC Cotton Tail baby
0:39:19.680,0:39:23.440
Cotton Tail those are the three main
0:39:22.079,0:39:25.640
sounds that I'm going to start my
0:39:23.440,0:39:27.440
sequence off and I'll run them sounds
0:39:25.640,0:39:30.359
all the way
0:39:27.440,0:39:33.720
like I said four five six minutes and
0:39:30.359,0:39:36.079
somewhere around that 15 to 18 minutes
0:39:33.720,0:39:39.240
sometimes 20 minutes uh I get a little
0:39:36.079,0:39:40.599
bored after about you know 15 20 minutes
0:39:39.240,0:39:42.920
of sitting there listening to Rabbit and
0:39:40.599,0:39:46.240
I'm ready to go to the next stand right
0:39:42.920,0:39:50.560
right that's that's good stuff and and
0:39:46.240,0:39:52.760
my my sound sequence is very very very
0:39:50.560,0:39:55.440
similar um I'm going to be running
0:39:52.760,0:39:57.640
anywhere from three to five different
0:39:55.440,0:40:00.480
rabbit sounds on on a stand and it just
0:39:57.640,0:40:03.240
depends on the stand location it depends
0:40:00.480,0:40:05.040
on if I think that I for sure have got a
0:40:03.240,0:40:06.480
cat in there if I think I for sure got a
0:40:05.040,0:40:08.520
cat in there I'll run up to five
0:40:06.480,0:40:13.200
different sounds and it be about a
0:40:08.520,0:40:16.760
25 minute stand or so um the main
0:40:13.200,0:40:20.440
difference in my stand my sound sequence
0:40:16.760,0:40:22.240
versus Corey's is is I'm I'm doing that
0:40:20.440,0:40:24.160
four to 6 minutes it's usually around
0:40:22.240,0:40:26.720
four or five minutes what I'll run each
0:40:24.160,0:40:28.520
sound through but instead of rolling
0:40:26.720,0:40:30.280
right into that next sound like Cory
0:40:28.520,0:40:33.480
does the only difference for me and it's
0:40:30.280,0:40:37.440
just just personal preference um I do a
0:40:33.480,0:40:40.800
short pause but it's short it's like 20
0:40:37.440,0:40:44.960
seconds 30 seconds 40 seconds Max of a
0:40:40.800,0:40:46.960
pause in between uh changing sounds and
0:40:44.960,0:40:48.760
then go right into the next sound and
0:40:46.960,0:40:52.400
usually I'm starting off with usually
0:40:48.760,0:40:54.760
I'm starting off with um Ki Cotton Tail
0:40:52.400,0:40:57.079
or Eastern Cotton Tail sometimes baby
0:40:54.760,0:40:58.920
Cotton Tail but usually it's going to be
0:40:57.079,0:41:01.839
you know 80% of the time it's going to
0:40:58.920,0:41:05.240
start off with Ki then the other 20% of
0:41:01.839,0:41:07.520
the time or you know 15 17% of the time
0:41:05.240,0:41:10.040
it's going to be eastern cottontail but
0:41:07.520,0:41:12.920
I always save and it's just something
0:41:10.040,0:41:15.160
that's just happened over the last two
0:41:12.920,0:41:16.560
or three years and another reason it's
0:41:15.160,0:41:18.640
only happened the last couple years is
0:41:16.560,0:41:21.480
because the sound that the sound hasn't
0:41:18.640,0:41:23.560
been out forever and that is uh my
0:41:21.480,0:41:25.760
usually my second sound in the sequence
0:41:23.560,0:41:28.599
is Mrs MC Cotton Tail and there's a
0:41:25.760,0:41:31.680
reason moved it there one thing I've
0:41:28.599,0:41:33.560
noticed with Bobcats over the last few
0:41:31.680,0:41:36.359
years with all the cats that we put on
0:41:33.560,0:41:38.200
film a lot of times these cats are
0:41:36.359,0:41:41.160
actually showing up and closing in and
0:41:38.200,0:41:43.000
on the call when I change sounds it's on
0:41:41.160,0:41:46.920
that sound change so I'm killing a lot
0:41:43.000,0:41:49.720
of these cats at that four five six s
0:41:46.920,0:41:52.280
minute Mark and it's it's like a minute
0:41:49.720,0:41:55.560
or two after I've changed sounds so I'll
0:41:52.280,0:41:58.160
run say Ki Cottontail first sound I'm
0:41:55.560,0:42:00.800
start playing I'll run it for four
0:41:58.160,0:42:02.680
minutes I'll take a short pause for at
0:42:00.800,0:42:05.640
20 to 40 seconds and then I go right
0:42:02.680,0:42:08.599
into Mrs MC Cotton Tail and right here's
0:42:05.640,0:42:10.200
a kicker I don't know what it is I don't
0:42:08.599,0:42:12.200
know if it's it's something about that
0:42:10.200,0:42:14.119
pause and then going into that second
0:42:12.200,0:42:16.720
sound it seems like it triggers them I
0:42:14.119,0:42:18.760
think they started coming to KI or
0:42:16.720,0:42:20.680
whatever that first sound I played it
0:42:18.760,0:42:23.000
could be Eastern Cotton Tail but they
0:42:20.680,0:42:25.760
started coming and slowed down or
0:42:23.000,0:42:28.000
whatever and then I hit pause and it
0:42:25.760,0:42:29.880
almost like they think they've lost that
0:42:28.000,0:42:32.240
rabbit or whatever goes through their
0:42:29.880,0:42:34.200
mind and then when you hit Mrs motton
0:42:32.240,0:42:35.920
tail which has got a different Rhythm
0:42:34.200,0:42:38.319
it's got a different tone it's just a
0:42:35.920,0:42:39.640
little bit different sound and it just
0:42:38.319,0:42:41.160
like it creates a little bit of
0:42:39.640,0:42:43.440
excitement in them and they come rushing
0:42:41.160,0:42:45.800
on in and that's where we kill a lot of
0:42:43.440,0:42:47.280
our Bobcats but if they don't show up on
0:42:45.800,0:42:50.200
that second sound again I'm going to
0:42:47.280,0:42:52.599
play it for four five six minutes do
0:42:50.200,0:42:55.640
another pause and then go into a third
0:42:52.599,0:42:57.040
rabbit sound run it and just the same
0:42:55.640,0:42:58.720
thing all the way way up through maybe
0:42:57.040,0:43:00.480
five sounds and it depends on the stand
0:42:58.720,0:43:03.839
so usually I'm starting off with like kg
0:43:00.480,0:43:06.559
Cotton Tail four to six minutes a short
0:43:03.839,0:43:09.160
20 to 40 second pause then going right
0:43:06.559,0:43:12.640
into Mrs motton tail again four to 6
0:43:09.160,0:43:15.119
minutes 20 to 40 second pause and then
0:43:12.640,0:43:18.240
my third sound will be like Eastern
0:43:15.119,0:43:21.040
Cotton Tail right or adult Cotton Tail
0:43:18.240,0:43:22.720
is another good sound DSG Cotton Tail
0:43:21.040,0:43:25.599
you just mentioned that we haven't
0:43:22.720,0:43:27.599
talked much about over you know last SE
0:43:25.599,0:43:30.040
well any podcast really it's a great
0:43:27.599,0:43:32.319
sound it's a odor sound but it is a
0:43:30.040,0:43:35.079
great call you know sound for Bobcats
0:43:32.319,0:43:36.640
and coyes but then if I don't get
0:43:35.079,0:43:38.400
nothing to those cotton Tails this is
0:43:36.640,0:43:40.599
where I really start increasing in my
0:43:38.400,0:43:43.319
intensity my fourth sound might be a
0:43:40.599,0:43:44.960
snowshoe sound like Snowshoe hair HP and
0:43:43.319,0:43:46.880
my fifth sound will be like Lightning
0:43:44.960,0:43:49.720
Jack so what's going on I'm kind of
0:43:46.880,0:43:51.720
increasing in intensity with each sound
0:43:49.720,0:43:54.119
as I progress throughout the stand kind
0:43:51.720,0:43:56.079
of like what I mentioned before and but
0:43:54.119,0:44:00.359
usually I'm killing all my Bobcats with
0:43:56.079,0:44:04.280
in 8 minutes um I have killed Bobcats at
0:44:00.359,0:44:07.599
that 15 and 20 and 25 minute Mark but
0:44:04.280,0:44:10.280
man over 80% of them maybe 90% of them
0:44:07.599,0:44:12.160
is in the first 80 or first uh first
0:44:10.280,0:44:14.440
eight minutes it's either to that first
0:44:12.160,0:44:17.359
rabbit sound I play or is that second
0:44:14.440,0:44:20.079
rabbit sound I play yes and I think that
0:44:17.359,0:44:24.079
all depend that all has to do with with
0:44:20.079,0:44:26.640
picking your stand location and crowding
0:44:24.079,0:44:30.240
those areas you know more than what you
0:44:26.640,0:44:31.960
would you know like a kot stand so I and
0:44:30.240,0:44:33.559
you got to cut the distance on a cat
0:44:31.960,0:44:35.880
because they don't want to travel too
0:44:33.559,0:44:38.640
you know that far right so those are the
0:44:35.880,0:44:41.440
reasons why I think John you and I are
0:44:38.640,0:44:43.480
seeing call-ins you know at less than 10
0:44:41.440,0:44:45.640
minutes is we're we're really crowding
0:44:43.480,0:44:47.920
those areas right and that's the reason
0:44:45.640,0:44:50.280
we started this podcast out with I think
0:44:47.920,0:44:52.280
there's some things that are that are
0:44:50.280,0:44:55.200
often overlooked and that is your stand
0:44:52.280,0:44:56.880
selection and your setup if you're if
0:44:55.200,0:45:00.079
you're
0:44:56.880,0:45:01.760
picking high percentage stand locations
0:45:00.079,0:45:03.920
and you're setting up
0:45:01.760,0:45:05.599
properly you're finding cats you're
0:45:03.920,0:45:08.359
setting up on them close crowding them
0:45:05.599,0:45:10.079
good rest of your set up as solid far as
0:45:08.359,0:45:11.960
how you got your call placed your wind
0:45:10.079,0:45:13.400
direction all that type of stuff that's
0:45:11.960,0:45:14.920
when you start throwing in your sounds
0:45:13.400,0:45:17.240
and your sequences and if you're on
0:45:14.920,0:45:19.440
those cats you're going to call them in
0:45:17.240,0:45:21.839
yes they're they're not as hard to call
0:45:19.440,0:45:23.200
in as a lot of people think a lot of
0:45:21.839,0:45:26.280
them is kind of like a lot of hunters
0:45:23.200,0:45:27.880
think a cat is is some kind of mythical
0:45:26.280,0:45:29.040
creature that's so much harder to call
0:45:27.880,0:45:30.720
in but they're not I actually think
0:45:29.040,0:45:34.000
they're easier to call in than a coyot
0:45:30.720,0:45:37.160
is I think so too especially once you
0:45:34.000,0:45:39.880
once you you know put the put the work
0:45:37.160,0:45:43.680
in like you and I have done break down
0:45:39.880,0:45:45.839
these stands find the scat prow these
0:45:43.680,0:45:47.880
areas I think the success rate will
0:45:45.839,0:45:50.680
really go up on a lot you know on a lot
0:45:47.880,0:45:52.640
of these stands for these guys and and I
0:45:50.680,0:45:55.119
I I agree I think they're they're pretty
0:45:52.640,0:45:57.280
easy to call in and you know I'm not
0:45:55.119,0:45:59.240
boasting you know I I'm not boasting
0:45:57.280,0:46:01.280
because we kill a lot of bobcats I think
0:45:59.240,0:46:04.559
we've just you know we we've got a lot
0:46:01.280,0:46:07.160
of experience doing it right you know oh
0:46:04.559,0:46:08.520
yeah and and just to kind of tie all
0:46:07.160,0:46:11.440
this stuff we're talking about to kind
0:46:08.520,0:46:14.599
of tie it in to show you how it can work
0:46:11.440,0:46:16.880
for you my first bobcat of this season
0:46:14.599,0:46:20.040
uh kuy's Bobcat season come in it
0:46:16.880,0:46:21.800
actually comes in during our rifle deer
0:46:20.040,0:46:23.200
season I don't never hunt them during
0:46:21.800,0:46:24.880
that deer season because we got so many
0:46:23.200,0:46:26.760
deer hunters out there and you got to go
0:46:24.880,0:46:28.359
wear orange if you to chase them so I
0:46:26.760,0:46:30.599
wait for the season to go out you know
0:46:28.359,0:46:33.119
the deer season to go out as soon as
0:46:30.599,0:46:34.800
it's out if I've got the weather I'm
0:46:33.119,0:46:37.240
hunting them that next day you know at
0:46:34.800,0:46:39.640
first day after rifle season goes out
0:46:37.240,0:46:42.480
and uh me and my cousin David Reed which
0:46:39.640,0:46:44.160
you know very well he actually owns a
0:46:42.480,0:46:47.920
piece of property that he was deer
0:46:44.160,0:46:49.720
hunting heavy he he tagged his buck he
0:46:47.920,0:46:52.119
was done deer hunting but of course like
0:46:49.720,0:46:54.240
I said we don't you know Bobcat season
0:46:52.119,0:46:56.760
came in but we kind of held off waited
0:46:54.240,0:46:59.119
for the rifle season to go out for deer
0:46:56.760,0:47:01.640
but anyway while he was scouting
0:46:59.119,0:47:04.640
throughout deer season he got tons of
0:47:01.640,0:47:06.000
pictures of a great big old Tom Bobcat
0:47:04.640,0:47:07.520
we didn't know it was a Tom but just
0:47:06.000,0:47:09.160
going off the size of it was was pretty
0:47:07.520,0:47:11.480
sure it was a Tom I mean he was pretty
0:47:09.160,0:47:14.280
consistent get him just every few days
0:47:11.480,0:47:16.839
so we knew exactly where we were going
0:47:14.280,0:47:19.040
to go call he's got this uh he's got
0:47:16.839,0:47:20.800
this little draw system runs on the back
0:47:19.040,0:47:22.520
side of his property that's where you
0:47:20.800,0:47:23.960
had a couple trail cameras at and
0:47:22.520,0:47:26.119
consistently getting pictures of this
0:47:23.960,0:47:28.280
cat so we went in there on that first
0:47:26.119,0:47:31.040
few days of the Season knew exactly
0:47:28.280,0:47:33.280
where we want to set up got in there got
0:47:31.040,0:47:36.559
the calling and man it worked out really
0:47:33.280,0:47:39.280
well we had a pretty good idea where the
0:47:36.559,0:47:41.319
cat would be held up in this draw system
0:47:39.280,0:47:43.720
we keyed in on that area slipped down
0:47:41.319,0:47:46.079
there got set up as tight as we could to
0:47:43.720,0:47:48.680
the cover we actually set up on the edge
0:47:46.079,0:47:51.880
of the cover and actually placed her
0:47:48.680,0:47:53.559
call out into a wide open soybean field
0:47:51.880,0:47:55.040
okay that had just been cut so it just
0:47:53.559,0:47:58.520
looked like a desert out there but we
0:47:55.040,0:48:00.400
only had to call set up about 50 or 60
0:47:58.520,0:48:04.079
yards away from the
0:48:00.400,0:48:06.520
thicket and guess what we got to Colin
0:48:04.079,0:48:08.040
went through Ki Cotton Tail actually
0:48:06.520,0:48:09.839
went through I played Eastern Cotton
0:48:08.040,0:48:11.839
Tail first on this stand played Eastern
0:48:09.839,0:48:14.680
Cotton Tail played it for four
0:48:11.839,0:48:17.280
minutes I took a short pause went right
0:48:14.680,0:48:20.559
into Mrs MC Cotton Tail and right down
0:48:17.280,0:48:23.520
in front of me right on the edge of this
0:48:20.559,0:48:25.400
Thicket I seen a little bit of movement
0:48:23.520,0:48:27.119
and I started to say something to David
0:48:25.400,0:48:28.640
he was filming for me I started say you
0:48:27.119,0:48:30.599
know telling hey I there's something
0:48:28.640,0:48:32.119
down here moving I don't know what it is
0:48:30.599,0:48:34.119
then all a sudden what happened was it
0:48:32.119,0:48:36.599
was the cat just on the edge of the edge
0:48:34.119,0:48:38.760
of the cover but what happened he turned
0:48:36.599,0:48:40.480
his head to the left and when he turned
0:48:38.760,0:48:43.040
his head to the left I caught that
0:48:40.480,0:48:45.119
movement and then I saw those white
0:48:43.040,0:48:47.160
patches on the back of their ears every
0:48:45.119,0:48:49.040
Bobcat got white patches on the back of
0:48:47.160,0:48:50.680
their ear as soon as I seen that I just
0:48:49.040,0:48:53.160
turned my head over my right shoulder
0:48:50.680,0:48:55.240
said bobcat bobcat bobcat bobcat right
0:48:53.160,0:48:57.559
here you know and then the rest is
0:48:55.240,0:49:00.520
history that sucker come creeping right
0:48:57.559,0:49:03.559
out there into the wide open this desert
0:49:00.520,0:49:05.559
looking uh cut soybean field that ain't
0:49:03.559,0:49:08.240
gotten the highest vegetation in it
0:49:05.559,0:49:11.559
ain't even an inch tall that cat walked
0:49:08.240,0:49:13.559
out there 35 yards from the cover sat
0:49:11.559,0:49:15.960
down right in front of that x24 and we
0:49:13.559,0:49:18.839
put one right in his shoulder a 30 plus
0:49:15.960,0:49:22.079
pound Bobcat broad daylight broad
0:49:18.839,0:49:25.079
daylight awesome stand that's awesome
0:49:22.079,0:49:27.040
awesome Stan now tell us I want to hear
0:49:25.079,0:49:28.839
about you you did kill a cat just a few
0:49:27.040,0:49:30.400
days ago looked like it was a pretty
0:49:28.839,0:49:31.280
good cat as well won you walk us through
0:49:30.400,0:49:35.319
that
0:49:31.280,0:49:37.400
stand well uh it was a really windy
0:49:35.319,0:49:39.640
windy day like I said earlier in this
0:49:37.400,0:49:42.480
podcast we've had a lot of wind for
0:49:39.640,0:49:46.079
whatever reason uh seems you know kind
0:49:42.480,0:49:48.920
of unseasonable for the win this time of
0:49:46.079,0:49:51.319
year but uh got out there made my first
0:49:48.920,0:49:54.559
stand which was actually a coyot stand
0:49:51.319,0:49:58.599
didn't call anything in and I I didn't
0:49:54.559,0:50:00.240
move John I moved maybe 4 or 500 yards
0:49:58.599,0:50:03.720
back to the north I just called this
0:50:00.240,0:50:05.640
holler out but at the end of this holler
0:50:03.720,0:50:08.680
is just exactly what we've been talking
0:50:05.640,0:50:11.160
about what I'm looking for good brush
0:50:08.680,0:50:13.000
all the way around ridg toop with a draw
0:50:11.160,0:50:16.839
system minute little bit of water there
0:50:13.000,0:50:19.839
there was actually a farm pond there and
0:50:16.839,0:50:22.200
got down to my my uh location that I
0:50:19.839,0:50:24.720
wanted to sit at had a good back
0:50:22.200,0:50:27.040
backdrop went out set my call out
0:50:24.720,0:50:29.119
actually on this stand I set my call out
0:50:27.040,0:50:32.160
a little bit further because I had had a
0:50:29.119,0:50:34.880
draw that was just kind of goofy I I was
0:50:32.160,0:50:37.119
afraid to get get the call too close to
0:50:34.880,0:50:39.680
me and not being able to see underneath
0:50:37.119,0:50:42.559
the the foot of this this hill that I
0:50:39.680,0:50:46.040
was sitting on so actually moved my call
0:50:42.559,0:50:47.079
out about another 25 30 yards over on a
0:50:46.040,0:50:51.520
opposite
0:50:47.079,0:50:54.440
rid uh started calling right right right
0:50:51.520,0:50:57.000
off the bat went in Mrs motton tail and
0:50:54.440,0:50:59.559
actually I was getting just getting
0:50:57.000,0:51:02.880
ready to switch the sound I actually had
0:50:59.559,0:51:05.799
turned the sound down on Mrs MC Cotton
0:51:02.880,0:51:09.640
Tail and was looking for KI and I looked
0:51:05.799,0:51:11.200
up on the Ridge across the uh Bob wire
0:51:09.640,0:51:14.319
fence there was a bob wire fence that
0:51:11.200,0:51:17.480
run up the hill adjacent to where the
0:51:14.319,0:51:19.400
brush was at and I caught some movement
0:51:17.480,0:51:21.720
reached down grabbed my binoculars
0:51:19.400,0:51:25.040
looked up there sure enough Bobcat
0:51:21.720,0:51:28.000
sitting up there so what I did is I went
0:51:25.040,0:51:29.599
ahead and R ramp my sound back up from
0:51:28.000,0:51:33.559
where it was at it was probably around
0:51:29.599,0:51:36.160
that 14 level on the volume went ahead
0:51:33.559,0:51:38.280
and ramped it back up to around 20 once
0:51:36.160,0:51:40.720
I seen the cat start moving I turned
0:51:38.280,0:51:43.000
that sound all the way back down and I
0:51:40.720,0:51:46.359
did I got this down all the way down to
0:51:43.000,0:51:49.480
probably about 12 10 or 12 and the cat
0:51:46.359,0:51:51.680
never stopped come across the fence row
0:51:49.480,0:51:54.960
got down in that draw system actually
0:51:51.680,0:51:57.319
started running once he seen the X decoy
0:51:54.960,0:52:01.240
once he seen that X decoy he he started
0:51:57.319,0:52:04.079
running up the hill and then it was like
0:52:01.240,0:52:06.599
he hit a brick wall he just stopped and
0:52:04.079,0:52:08.599
it was just step after step after step
0:52:06.599,0:52:12.119
and he did that for probably about 30
0:52:08.599,0:52:15.000
yards and once I could see the the
0:52:12.119,0:52:17.520
actual fox Pro and the X decoy and the
0:52:15.000,0:52:19.599
camera screen and the cat in the same
0:52:17.520,0:52:21.480
frame I decided to go ahead and and
0:52:19.599,0:52:24.400
shoot that cat it's time to do something
0:52:21.480,0:52:27.000
with him man yeah it was it was a very
0:52:24.400,0:52:28.839
very awesome call in good cat took him
0:52:27.000,0:52:31.200
back home I didn't didn't have the scale
0:52:28.839,0:52:34.319
with me at the time but he he he come
0:52:31.200,0:52:36.240
off the scale at 27.6 pound so he was a
0:52:34.319,0:52:39.920
real good cat that's a lot of Fel line
0:52:36.240,0:52:41.359
right there yes it is awesome awesome I
0:52:39.920,0:52:46.200
wish I was there to share it with you s
0:52:41.359,0:52:49.079
like a fun stand U I've got uh some
0:52:46.200,0:52:50.680
bobcat myths I want to cover real quick
0:52:49.079,0:52:52.119
we'll bounce through these real quick
0:52:50.680,0:52:54.040
it's going to be about three or four of
0:52:52.119,0:52:56.480
them that I think be good to touch on
0:52:54.040,0:52:59.640
before we get out of here but the
0:52:56.480,0:53:02.440
first bobcat myth or something that's a
0:52:59.640,0:53:05.880
common misconception I think is number
0:53:02.440,0:53:09.079
one is Bobcats always sneak
0:53:05.880,0:53:10.839
in yes you will see a lot of B bobcats
0:53:09.079,0:53:13.599
come belly crawling into the call
0:53:10.839,0:53:15.920
sneaking come very very slow but I've
0:53:13.599,0:53:17.960
called in many of bobcats that'll run in
0:53:15.920,0:53:19.720
just as fast as any coyote I've ever
0:53:17.960,0:53:21.480
called in I mean they could come
0:53:19.720,0:53:24.319
charging in like crazy have you seen the
0:53:21.480,0:53:26.119
same thing Cory oh absolutely in
0:53:24.319,0:53:27.760
multiple times
0:53:26.119,0:53:29.200
uh and I'm sure it has to do with
0:53:27.760,0:53:33.440
weather you know if we've had a lot of
0:53:29.200,0:53:35.680
cold or how hungry that cat is but yeah
0:53:33.440,0:53:37.160
I've I've they've tricked me sometimes
0:53:35.680,0:53:39.119
well just like the story I was telling
0:53:37.160,0:53:40.880
you about the cat that I missed when I
0:53:39.119,0:53:43.160
first seen that cat he was running he
0:53:40.880,0:53:45.960
was running hard I thought it was a I
0:53:43.160,0:53:48.640
thought it was a Kyle yep so yeah that
0:53:45.960,0:53:51.480
myth there is to me is busted and they
0:53:48.640,0:53:53.559
don't always sneak yep and and just to
0:53:51.480,0:53:55.960
go right off that my second cat of this
0:53:53.559,0:53:58.599
season I actually called I actually got
0:53:55.960,0:54:02.079
down into a Thicket that I usually don't
0:53:58.599,0:54:04.359
do a whole lot of to call this cat um it
0:54:02.079,0:54:05.599
was a buddy of mine it's that owns a
0:54:04.359,0:54:06.920
piece of property and the reason he's
0:54:05.599,0:54:09.160
bought this property is the deer hunt
0:54:06.920,0:54:12.799
it's a really good deer hunting property
0:54:09.160,0:54:14.960
it's got uh it's got two major thickets
0:54:12.799,0:54:17.599
on on the play and in between those two
0:54:14.960,0:54:19.880
thickets he got some Loosely broken up
0:54:17.599,0:54:23.520
smaller fields that he puts food plots
0:54:19.880,0:54:25.599
in well he sent me a picture late in the
0:54:23.520,0:54:27.440
afternoon it was still daylight of a
0:54:25.599,0:54:29.920
bobcat that had come out of a Thicket
0:54:27.440,0:54:32.119
he's got it set on a trail that goes
0:54:29.920,0:54:34.240
from one piece of cover to another he
0:54:32.119,0:54:36.720
sent me a a trail camera picture of a
0:54:34.240,0:54:38.839
bobcat leaving one Thicket and was
0:54:36.720,0:54:41.480
headed to the other Thicket this was in
0:54:38.839,0:54:43.119
the afternoon so I said heck I bet I can
0:54:41.480,0:54:45.040
get on that cat to follow morning he's
0:54:43.119,0:54:47.799
going to be in that other Thicket more
0:54:45.040,0:54:49.240
than likely so I went in there got right
0:54:47.799,0:54:51.319
down in that thick that Thicket had been
0:54:49.240,0:54:53.000
logged it's it's a block of woods been
0:54:51.319,0:54:55.079
logged a few years ago so it's got a
0:54:53.000,0:54:57.280
couple really nice Trails I mean good
0:54:55.079,0:54:58.520
Trails that's been up being kept up real
0:54:57.280,0:55:00.200
good you can actually Drive Your Truck
0:54:58.520,0:55:02.160
through them but there's a section where
0:55:00.200,0:55:03.960
there's two Trails actually crossed kind
0:55:02.160,0:55:05.480
of down towards the bottom and I already
0:55:03.960,0:55:07.119
had my mind I'm going to get down there
0:55:05.480,0:55:08.440
where those Trails intersect I'm going
0:55:07.119,0:55:11.760
to go in there with the shotgun and see
0:55:08.440,0:55:14.960
if I can't call up at cat and sure
0:55:11.760,0:55:17.160
enough again the Cat come in on a sound
0:55:14.960,0:55:18.720
change on my second sound but when I
0:55:17.160,0:55:20.160
seen him running down one of them
0:55:18.720,0:55:22.760
logging roads that's what he was doing
0:55:20.160,0:55:26.319
was running he sprinted all the way up
0:55:22.760,0:55:27.880
to within about 20 steps of my x24 andx
0:55:26.319,0:55:29.480
decoy and I burned him down with a 20
0:55:27.880,0:55:31.599
gauge shotgun I mean come running in
0:55:29.480,0:55:34.440
just like a
0:55:31.599,0:55:36.039
Coy a shotgun I didn't I didn't think
0:55:34.440,0:55:38.520
I'd hear that from you you haven't used
0:55:36.039,0:55:40.359
a shotgun in in quite a few years the
0:55:38.520,0:55:42.359
funny thing is the last time I'd ever
0:55:40.359,0:55:43.880
used a shot gun on a predator stand I
0:55:42.359,0:55:45.400
caught in a bobcat and the thing got
0:55:43.880,0:55:47.640
away from me and I kind of swore them
0:55:45.400,0:55:49.760
off for the time for the time being but
0:55:47.640,0:55:51.520
this this situation just just called for
0:55:49.760,0:55:55.280
it my furthest shot was going to be 50
0:55:51.520,0:55:57.599
yards so why not right that's right and
0:55:55.280,0:55:59.680
I always keep one handy in the truck
0:55:57.599,0:56:01.960
just in case I find areas like that I'm
0:55:59.680,0:56:03.440
not a big shotgun guy either when it
0:56:01.960,0:56:06.000
comes to Predators I know there's a lot
0:56:03.440,0:56:09.440
of guys out there that do but I'm I'm
0:56:06.000,0:56:11.440
more of a rifle guy but uh yeah you gota
0:56:09.440,0:56:16.359
you gota you got to have one handy just
0:56:11.440,0:56:19.200
in case Bobcat myth number two Bobcats
0:56:16.359,0:56:22.000
always take their time coming to the
0:56:19.200,0:56:23.799
call this is something that I've seen
0:56:22.000,0:56:25.960
again I've seen this wrote in many
0:56:23.799,0:56:29.520
articles people talk about making these
0:56:25.960,0:56:32.520
45 minute hour long hour and 15 minute
0:56:29.520,0:56:34.000
long Bobcat stands hey if you don't have
0:56:32.520,0:56:35.680
many stands to make and you want to
0:56:34.000,0:56:38.760
sitting there for an hour and call by
0:56:35.680,0:56:41.200
all means do it can you call one up on a
0:56:38.760,0:56:42.720
60-minute mark of course you can of
0:56:41.200,0:56:44.920
course you can and maybe I'm walking
0:56:42.720,0:56:46.880
away from some Bobcats but what I said
0:56:44.920,0:56:48.400
earlier most of the time if you're
0:56:46.880,0:56:49.799
setting up properly and you're setting
0:56:48.400,0:56:51.520
up tight on cats you're going to be
0:56:49.799,0:56:53.160
calling them cats in pretty quick
0:56:51.520,0:56:54.599
there's been many a bobcat that I've
0:56:53.160,0:56:57.079
killed in the first one minute and two
0:56:54.599,0:57:00.000
minutes of my of my stand setup they
0:56:57.079,0:57:01.680
don't always take forever to come in you
0:57:00.000,0:57:03.000
can call them in just as quick or
0:57:01.680,0:57:07.280
quicker than a
0:57:03.000,0:57:09.359
c I agree I I definitely agree and I you
0:57:07.280,0:57:12.480
know I had this question brought up to
0:57:09.359,0:57:17.319
me last year actually by a conservation
0:57:12.480,0:57:19.079
agent um my son and I was in a in a
0:57:17.319,0:57:21.920
coyote contest and actually it's a
0:57:19.079,0:57:24.480
predator contest kill any any uh
0:57:21.920,0:57:28.119
predator in this contest my son and I
0:57:24.480,0:57:30.720
actually killed four bobcats in one day
0:57:28.119,0:57:32.599
and conservation agent was going to tag
0:57:30.720,0:57:34.440
one of the Bobcats for me cuz I was
0:57:32.599,0:57:37.440
actually going to take it to the taxer
0:57:34.440,0:57:39.200
so we were out there he was taking all
0:57:37.440,0:57:41.760
my information down to put on the tag
0:57:39.200,0:57:43.440
and he says uh you got a lot more
0:57:41.760,0:57:45.839
patience than the rest of these guys and
0:57:43.440,0:57:47.160
I said why is that he said well there
0:57:45.839,0:57:49.200
ain't no telling how long it took some
0:57:47.160,0:57:52.119
of them Bobcats to come in and I
0:57:49.200,0:57:55.280
said I said sir I said none of these
0:57:52.119,0:57:57.319
Bobcats was over eight minutes call in
0:57:55.280,0:58:00.520
and kill and I still don't think he
0:57:57.319,0:58:03.079
believes me today that is that is the
0:58:00.520,0:58:05.680
God's honest truth all those Bobcats we
0:58:03.079,0:58:07.280
killed in one day four of them were all
0:58:05.680,0:58:09.039
less than eight minutes yeah I think
0:58:07.280,0:58:10.920
it's just one of those common
0:58:09.039,0:58:12.920
misconceptions and I think a lot of
0:58:10.920,0:58:14.680
times and I've said this before and I've
0:58:12.920,0:58:16.760
said this I mean I've said this multiple
0:58:14.680,0:58:18.480
times I think a lot of times when you
0:58:16.760,0:58:20.240
hear about people killing even for
0:58:18.480,0:58:23.039
myself you hear about these people
0:58:20.240,0:58:25.480
killing these cats at 20 25 and 30
0:58:23.039,0:58:28.359
minutes well the thing is that cat was
0:58:25.480,0:58:31.000
probably there way before that 30 minute
0:58:28.359,0:58:33.400
Mark you just never saw it I've actually
0:58:31.000,0:58:35.559
had this happen before you know get up
0:58:33.400,0:58:37.720
there to about 15 minutes and all a
0:58:35.559,0:58:38.880
sudden dang there's a d on Bobcat right
0:58:37.720,0:58:41.079
in front of me where did that thing come
0:58:38.880,0:58:42.960
from well that thing could have been
0:58:41.079,0:58:44.599
been within range for no telling how
0:58:42.960,0:58:47.480
long I just never did catch it they just
0:58:44.599,0:58:49.640
blend in so well if you're close to a
0:58:47.480,0:58:54.039
bobcat he's more than likely he's going
0:58:49.640,0:58:56.000
to show up rather quickly but um and I
0:58:54.039,0:58:59.119
think some of that myth John comes from
0:58:56.000,0:59:01.440
a lot of lot of Western Hunters too I I
0:58:59.119,0:59:04.440
will have to add that as a note on on
0:59:01.440,0:59:06.559
that uh there it's big difference
0:59:04.440,0:59:09.240
calling in our type type of terrain to
0:59:06.559,0:59:10.799
calling in that terrain uh cats got to
0:59:09.240,0:59:13.839
cover a lot more ground if he wants to
0:59:10.799,0:59:15.760
come out and eat that eat that rabbit so
0:59:13.839,0:59:19.039
I think I think some of that myth has
0:59:15.760,0:59:21.520
come from you know Western type Hunters
0:59:19.039,0:59:23.839
um I'm not saying that you and I
0:59:21.520,0:59:26.280
couldn't go out west find a location and
0:59:23.839,0:59:28.880
call one in and5 minutes but I think
0:59:26.280,0:59:30.520
guys hunting out there coyotes you know
0:59:28.880,0:59:32.000
they they see those cats coming from a
0:59:30.520,0:59:33.559
long distance and it just takes them
0:59:32.000,0:59:35.640
that long to get there some sometimes
0:59:33.559,0:59:37.160
well and that's and I'm not telling guys
0:59:35.640,0:59:39.520
listen here I'm not telling you just to
0:59:37.160,0:59:41.760
make a eight minute stand because that's
0:59:39.520,0:59:43.319
when you're go ahead if you want to set
0:59:41.760,0:59:44.920
there for 30 minutes set there for 30
0:59:43.319,0:59:47.280
minutes and you could kill them on a 30
0:59:44.920,0:59:48.880
minute Mark I do think that is another
0:59:47.280,0:59:51.559
situation that comes up just kind of
0:59:48.880,0:59:53.760
feeding off what you said there Corey
0:59:51.559,0:59:57.200
and you said it earlier some of these
0:59:53.760,0:59:59.160
Bobcats we'll travel great distances uh
0:59:57.200,1:00:00.359
you know in their travel pattern and
0:59:59.160,1:00:01.280
sometimes them things will be traveling
1:00:00.359,1:00:03.480
right in the middle of the day they're
1:00:01.280,1:00:06.039
not always just traveling at night so
1:00:03.480,1:00:08.920
there is those situations where it took
1:00:06.039,1:00:10.359
a cat was on his feet moving around and
1:00:08.920,1:00:12.680
he didn't get to where he could actually
1:00:10.359,1:00:15.480
hear your sound from your Fox Pro until
1:00:12.680,1:00:17.000
that 25 minute Mark so then he comes
1:00:15.480,1:00:18.640
rushing in and you're like guess what
1:00:17.000,1:00:20.799
you killed that Bobcat out on the 28
1:00:18.640,1:00:22.359
minute mark it didn't really take him it
1:00:20.799,1:00:24.039
might not have took him 28 minutes to
1:00:22.359,1:00:25.839
come in it only took him 3 minutes to
1:00:24.039,1:00:27.760
come in but took him 25 minutes to get
1:00:25.839,1:00:29.960
where he could hear the sound if it
1:00:27.760,1:00:33.000
makes sense so yeah well I'm sure
1:00:29.960,1:00:36.359
there's all kinds of variables you know
1:00:33.000,1:00:39.160
yeah yeah you know but uh for me and I
1:00:36.359,1:00:41.160
know for you yeah they're there seem to
1:00:39.160,1:00:43.319
be pretty quick to the call yep usually
1:00:41.160,1:00:45.960
I'm making a 25 minute stand and I
1:00:43.319,1:00:47.400
rarely kill them at 25 minutes I have
1:00:45.960,1:00:50.359
but most time I'm killing them in those
1:00:47.400,1:00:54.000
first8 10 minutes yeah so moving right
1:00:50.359,1:00:56.160
on our Bobcat myth number three we done
1:00:54.000,1:00:58.640
talked about this earlier we'll hit it
1:00:56.160,1:01:01.880
real quick again Bobcats don't use their
1:00:58.640,1:01:04.960
nose yes they can use their nose if
1:01:01.880,1:01:06.960
you've got a cat scouted out or you've
1:01:04.960,1:01:08.960
got a pretty good idea of a of a stand
1:01:06.960,1:01:11.920
location where you could call in a
1:01:08.960,1:01:13.599
Bobcat just do yourself a favor and do
1:01:11.920,1:01:15.359
not hunt that spot until you have the
1:01:13.599,1:01:17.359
win in your favor you definitely don't
1:01:15.359,1:01:20.400
want your wi blowing from you to where
1:01:17.359,1:01:22.720
that Bobcat's at exctly he can booger on
1:01:20.400,1:01:24.039
it not always but he can booger on it
1:01:22.720,1:01:26.119
and you don't want that to cost your
1:01:24.039,1:01:27.400
stand and plus there could be coyotes in
1:01:26.119,1:01:29.520
there that you might want to burn down
1:01:27.400,1:01:33.000
as well so always hunt the win no matter
1:01:29.520,1:01:34.760
what Bobcats will use their nose the
1:01:33.000,1:01:38.680
fourth myth and the last one we're will
1:01:34.760,1:01:42.039
talk about are B Bobcats are hard to
1:01:38.680,1:01:45.680
call in and or or you can put slash
1:01:42.039,1:01:47.280
Bobcats are intelligent no Bobcats
1:01:45.680,1:01:48.760
aren't that hard to call in I actually
1:01:47.280,1:01:51.440
think they're easier to call in than the
1:01:48.760,1:01:53.119
cat I think if you're close to a bobcat
1:01:51.440,1:01:54.880
and you throw out the right sounds at
1:01:53.119,1:01:55.839
the right time with the right volume and
1:01:54.880,1:01:57.720
all that stuff he's going to come
1:01:55.839,1:01:59.480
running in there and another thing
1:01:57.720,1:02:01.880
they're not that intelligent I think a
1:01:59.480,1:02:04.200
lot of people think that they're a super
1:02:01.880,1:02:06.240
smart animal because they don't call
1:02:04.200,1:02:07.559
many of them in probably the reason you
1:02:06.240,1:02:09.520
don't call many of them in because you
1:02:07.559,1:02:12.520
just never been all that close to them
1:02:09.520,1:02:14.279
okay right I think if you're on a cat
1:02:12.520,1:02:15.880
and you're fairly close to him and you
1:02:14.279,1:02:17.279
throw sounds out there he's going to
1:02:15.880,1:02:18.520
he's going to come in pretty easy I
1:02:17.279,1:02:21.200
think they call a lot easier than
1:02:18.520,1:02:25.680
coyotes do my personal
1:02:21.200,1:02:27.400
opinion anybody my op go ahead go ahead
1:02:25.680,1:02:29.119
all thing I was going to say is if
1:02:27.400,1:02:32.200
you've ever been around if you've ever
1:02:29.119,1:02:34.440
had pet cats and pet dogs you know which
1:02:32.200,1:02:36.240
one's probably the most intelligent
1:02:34.440,1:02:38.000
exactly a dog you can have you can teach
1:02:36.240,1:02:39.720
a dog to a heck of a lot more stuff than
1:02:38.000,1:02:42.880
you can teach a
1:02:39.720,1:02:47.720
cat yeah the crazy cat lady won't think
1:02:42.880,1:02:50.680
so but I agree but my opinion on that is
1:02:47.720,1:02:53.640
cats use their senses more than than
1:02:50.680,1:02:56.680
they use their brain and I believe that
1:02:53.640,1:02:59.640
wholeheartedly their their ears are are
1:02:56.680,1:03:01.160
number one and their eyes is number two
1:02:59.640,1:03:02.920
and that's what they live off of
1:03:01.160,1:03:05.279
everything else in between I just really
1:03:02.920,1:03:08.119
don't think I just really don't think
1:03:05.279,1:03:09.720
they use their brain I've got two more
1:03:08.119,1:03:13.000
questions for you then we gonna get out
1:03:09.720,1:03:15.200
of here Cory you ready for him yes sir
1:03:13.000,1:03:17.160
tell me about shot placement on a Bobcat
1:03:15.200,1:03:20.440
where you want to shoot him at to Anchor
1:03:17.160,1:03:23.520
him well that's we can go back to some
1:03:20.440,1:03:26.279
of our myths on this uh a lot of people
1:03:23.520,1:03:29.319
say you know right behind the shoulder
1:03:26.279,1:03:31.400
but you and I have both learned that we
1:03:29.319,1:03:33.559
want to Anchor those cats I shoot them
1:03:31.400,1:03:36.000
right through the shoulder that's where
1:03:33.559,1:03:39.079
my shot placement is at if I've got a
1:03:36.000,1:03:41.960
broadside shot uh if I got a frontal
1:03:39.079,1:03:45.520
shot Square chest that's where I'm
1:03:41.960,1:03:47.599
aiming at him yes sir I totally agree if
1:03:45.520,1:03:49.359
he comes right into you facing head on
1:03:47.599,1:03:51.200
Square him up right in the chest if he's
1:03:49.359,1:03:53.480
broadside try to put it through both
1:03:51.200,1:03:54.440
shoulders quartering away try to put it
1:03:53.480,1:03:56.319
in there where you're hitting the
1:03:54.440,1:03:57.880
offside shoulder the same thing if he's
1:03:56.319,1:03:59.920
quartering to you put it right in the
1:03:57.880,1:04:02.319
point of that front shoulder he'll he'll
1:03:59.920,1:04:04.480
drop right there it's like Cory said if
1:04:02.319,1:04:06.240
you do hit behind the shoulder more than
1:04:04.480,1:04:09.160
likely them cat that cat's going to jump
1:04:06.240,1:04:10.880
about 12 foot in the air and as soon as
1:04:09.160,1:04:13.119
his feet hit the ground he's going to
1:04:10.880,1:04:14.440
take off running and if you got to go
1:04:13.119,1:04:17.440
search for a
1:04:14.440,1:04:19.480
Bobcat it's a pretty good chance you
1:04:17.440,1:04:21.279
might Trail him up and find him
1:04:19.480,1:04:23.760
especially if you seen pile up you know
1:04:21.279,1:04:26.279
that's great but if he goes out of sight
1:04:23.760,1:04:28.720
man there are tough to find just because
1:04:26.279,1:04:30.920
they blend in so well I mean you got
1:04:28.720,1:04:33.319
step on them before you find them they
1:04:30.920,1:04:35.520
got so much life to them that and
1:04:33.319,1:04:37.079
they're so radical when something gets a
1:04:35.520,1:04:39.720
hold of a bobcat I don't know if you've
1:04:37.079,1:04:43.319
ever watched a video of a bobcat getting
1:04:39.720,1:04:45.279
in a foot hold but they talk about tiger
1:04:43.319,1:04:47.880
by the tail oh man that's definitely
1:04:45.279,1:04:51.640
what you got they bite up everything and
1:04:47.880,1:04:55.079
I I they just they just got so much you
1:04:51.640,1:04:57.000
know anxiety when something gets a hold
1:04:55.079,1:04:59.039
of them that they're they got a lot of
1:04:57.000,1:05:01.480
life to them they'll run just like you
1:04:59.039,1:05:02.599
said you don't anchor them down they're
1:05:01.480,1:05:05.319
they're
1:05:02.599,1:05:08.680
gone that's exactly right I've got one
1:05:05.319,1:05:10.119
more question for you and this is uh
1:05:08.680,1:05:14.119
kind of an interesting one I've been
1:05:10.119,1:05:16.960
asking I've asked uh Andrew lean this
1:05:14.119,1:05:18.680
I've asked Gage banan this and I've
1:05:16.960,1:05:21.640
asked Tory cook this at you guys won't
1:05:18.680,1:05:24.359
hear for a couple more weeks
1:05:21.640,1:05:26.400
but you ready for this this is one those
1:05:24.359,1:05:28.240
good ones where you got to put you on a
1:05:26.400,1:05:31.960
spot oh
1:05:28.240,1:05:33.839
boy all right I'm going to drop you off
1:05:31.960,1:05:37.559
in the
1:05:33.839,1:05:41.079
wilderness no civilization for thousands
1:05:37.559,1:05:43.839
of miles your life depends on you
1:05:41.079,1:05:45.839
killing a coyot okay I'm G to drop you
1:05:43.839,1:05:47.839
off You' got to kill a coyot if you get
1:05:45.839,1:05:50.079
a coyote killed I'll fly back in with a
1:05:47.839,1:05:52.520
helicopter and save your life if you
1:05:50.079,1:05:56.079
don't kill a coyote you got to live your
1:05:52.520,1:05:58.000
life out in this Wilderness digging up
1:05:56.079,1:06:01.440
earthworms and eating snails and tree
1:05:58.000,1:06:04.880
bark to stay alive okay you understand
1:06:01.440,1:06:06.880
what you get you get a x24 loaded up
1:06:04.880,1:06:08.880
with all the fox Pro library and the
1:06:06.880,1:06:13.039
whole mfk Library so you're good to go
1:06:08.880,1:06:17.680
on you call right okay y the thing that
1:06:13.039,1:06:20.440
you get to choose is your caliber of
1:06:17.680,1:06:23.000
rifle or your gauge of shotgun the thing
1:06:20.440,1:06:26.599
is you only get one bullet I give you
1:06:23.000,1:06:29.440
one shell so what's going on here to
1:06:26.599,1:06:32.760
save your life you got to call a Coy up
1:06:29.440,1:06:35.720
you've got one shot to get him killed
1:06:32.760,1:06:38.880
what is your choice of
1:06:35.720,1:06:40.880
cartridge what what cartridge are you
1:06:38.880,1:06:43.279
taking on this hun it can be any kind of
1:06:40.880,1:06:45.599
rifle cartridge it can be any kind of it
1:06:43.279,1:06:48.079
can be any kind of rifle caliber it can
1:06:45.599,1:06:50.400
be any shotgun gauge water are you
1:06:48.079,1:06:52.279
choosing to take to make sure you anchor
1:06:50.400,1:06:54.599
that coyot and get him killed to save
1:06:52.279,1:06:56.480
your life to save your life life you got
1:06:54.599,1:06:57.400
to kill a coyot you only got one shot
1:06:56.480,1:07:00.960
what is
1:06:57.400,1:07:03.079
it well I've killed more coyotes with
1:07:00.960,1:07:04.880
this cartridge than any than any other
1:07:03.079,1:07:06.200
cartridge out there even the new stuff
1:07:04.880,1:07:09.720
that I've been running here the last
1:07:06.200,1:07:12.680
couple years and it's 22250 and that's
1:07:09.720,1:07:16.559
what I'm gonna take my
1:07:12.680,1:07:19.680
man you know I like a 22 250 I know I
1:07:16.559,1:07:22.119
you know I love a 2250 22250 I actually
1:07:19.680,1:07:24.960
shot one out shooting nothing but
1:07:22.119,1:07:28.359
predators and when I shot the gun out I
1:07:24.960,1:07:30.319
had it made into a to a 22 creedmore but
1:07:28.359,1:07:32.880
uh like I said I know I've shot more
1:07:30.319,1:07:35.400
kyotes with with that gun than any right
1:07:32.880,1:07:36.400
other gun out there so that that's what
1:07:35.400,1:07:40.799
I'm going to
1:07:36.400,1:07:44.799
take you don't even consider a 22 Magnum
1:07:40.799,1:07:47.279
or a 17 HMR or a 204
1:07:44.799,1:07:50.319
Ruger absolutely
1:07:47.279,1:07:53.480
not my life depends on it I'm taking the
1:07:50.319,1:07:55.160
the 22 250 yeah boy boy it makes you
1:07:53.480,1:07:56.440
think different on calibers if it's
1:07:55.160,1:07:57.839
something talking about to save your
1:07:56.440,1:07:59.720
life I know nobody ever thinks well I
1:07:57.839,1:08:00.720
got to kill this cow save my life but
1:07:59.720,1:08:03.480
hey what if you was put in that
1:08:00.720,1:08:05.880
situation what caliber will you take all
1:08:03.480,1:08:08.240
you listeners think about that what
1:08:05.880,1:08:10.359
caliber would you take if it your life
1:08:08.240,1:08:11.720
depended on you killing a cow I think
1:08:10.359,1:08:14.520
it's awesome I love hearing everybody's
1:08:11.720,1:08:16.359
answers for that and it it is very
1:08:14.520,1:08:19.640
awesome and you know and I I almost
1:08:16.359,1:08:21.920
picked a 22 Creed more or 243 just
1:08:19.640,1:08:24.759
because of the little bit more of a
1:08:21.920,1:08:27.679
punch there but like I said I got go
1:08:24.759,1:08:30.040
back to my roots confidence y I killed
1:08:27.679,1:08:32.319
I've killed a lot of coyes and a lot of
1:08:30.040,1:08:34.640
bobcats with Point 250 so that's what
1:08:32.319,1:08:37.040
I'm taking well that's good stuff and
1:08:34.640,1:08:39.440
y'all stay stay tuned For an upcoming
1:08:37.040,1:08:42.719
podcast to hear Tory Cooks answer it's a
1:08:39.440,1:08:44.400
good one Tori I love tor's answers wait
1:08:42.719,1:08:46.279
till you hear it you'll get a kick out
1:08:44.400,1:08:48.600
of it I think I sure did I thought it
1:08:46.279,1:08:50.960
was awesome but but Cory we appreciate
1:08:48.600,1:08:53.560
you coming on here and uh sharing your
1:08:50.960,1:08:56.679
experiences with Bob Kat Colin and we
1:08:53.560,1:08:58.319
hope hope you have a continued luck
1:08:56.679,1:08:59.920
throughout the rest of this Bobcat
1:08:58.319,1:09:02.319
season I'm actually going to head to
1:08:59.920,1:09:05.080
Kansas here in a few days and see if I
1:09:02.319,1:09:06.640
can't tag some Bobcats out there well
1:09:05.080,1:09:09.239
I'm G to look forward to seeing those
1:09:06.640,1:09:11.239
pictures would you like to leave us with
1:09:09.239,1:09:14.239
anything for we get out of
1:09:11.239,1:09:16.120
here well thank you guys for listening
1:09:14.239,1:09:18.799
uh I hope this podcast helps you out and
1:09:16.120,1:09:20.799
if you got any questions hit me up on
1:09:18.799,1:09:22.520
any of the social media I'm I'm on all
1:09:20.799,1:09:26.319
platforms
1:09:22.520,1:09:28.839
so yes sir you guys take this info
1:09:26.319,1:09:32.199
hopefully it helps you out if you try
1:09:28.839,1:09:35.880
using these uh calling sequences for
1:09:32.199,1:09:37.719
Bobcats and you are successful hey tag
1:09:35.880,1:09:40.440
us up on social media I want to see the
1:09:37.719,1:09:42.600
pictures I want to see that you tag the
1:09:40.440,1:09:44.279
Bobcat but good luck out there to
1:09:42.600,1:09:45.759
everyone we hope everyone enjoyed this
1:09:44.279,1:09:49.600
episode and we hope you join us again
1:09:45.759,1:09:49.600
right here on the fox Pro podcast