The FOXPRO Podcast

Ep. 40: Whats Working Now - Al's Winter New Mexico Hunt

Episode Summary

FOXPRO's Jon Collins and Al Morris discuss the strategy used in Al's most recent coyote hunt that took place in New Mexico with Brian Trussell.

Episode Transcription

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welcome to the fox Pro podcast brought

 

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to you by Fox Pro game

 

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calls hey guys and gals welcome back to

 

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the fox Pro podcast this is John Collins

 

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and we've got none other than Big Al

 

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Morris on the line how's it going Al

 

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good how are you John doing pretty good

 

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buddy you got back from a uh from a trip

 

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just a few days ago didn't you yeah no

 

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we were in Eastern New Mexico and I just

 

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want to give a shout out to you and

 

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everybody there that makes this podcast

 

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happen it's pretty exciting to see you

 

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guys break the top 10 top five in the

 

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wilderness uh podcast uh deal that's

 

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kind of a big deal John that you've

 

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taken a podcast from basically zero to

 

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uh the top five of the Wilderness

 

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podcast yeah it is pretty cool I you

 

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know I want to thank everybody that that

 

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Tunes in it seems like everybody's

 

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enjoying it and uh and that's the reason

 

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we do it we want you guys to enjoy this

 

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and I guess the most important thing is

 

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we want you guys to learn from it

 

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hopefully it is entertaining to you but

 

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we want this to be extremely educational

 

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um so thank you guys for tuning in thank

 

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you guys that that continue to tune in

 

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and you know this episode ain't going to

 

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be no different we're going to try to uh

 

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inform you guys what's been going on

 

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here lately and on this episode we're

 

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going to discuss uh what we've seen in

 

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the field while kyot calling over the

 

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last few weeks or last couple weeks uh

 

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Al just got back from a highly

 

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successful trip down in the southwest

 

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down in New Mexico and I've been hunting

 

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a little bit around here home in my home

 

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state of Kentucky and so what we're

 

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going to do is we're going to share with

 

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you all what we've seen out of the

 

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coyotes and how they've been calling and

 

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what sounds we've had the most success

 

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with um we might also touch briefly here

 

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towards the end on possible effects that

 

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moon phase and temperatures have on

 

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coyote movement and how they you know

 

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that might determine how they actually

 

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respond to the fox

 

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uh so we got a good one here for you

 

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guys I think you guys can can gather

 

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something from from that you know the

 

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breeding season is kind of starting to

 

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kick in right now time th this one hits

 

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we're going to be smack dabbing the

 

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middle of next six weeks is going to be

 

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critical and it's that nuggets

 

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information I think what sets our

 

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podcast apart is we're just not

 

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regurgitating uh random stuff we're

 

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regurgitating the stuff that I think the

 

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pure Predator Hunters uh are really

 

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interested in John so you know it was

 

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really cool I was down there in Mexico

 

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with Brian Trussell Brian Trussell

 

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killed his first gry fox in

 

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1977 I killed my first coyote in 1978

 

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I'm not sure how old Brian was he

 

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couldn't have been very old six or seven

 

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because I was 12 when in 1978 when I

 

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killed my first coyot so I've been doing

 

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it since 1978 that will date me a little

 

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yeah um I was born in

 

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80 so that just tells you that uh we've

 

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been doing this a long time but I you

 

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know what John I think the most exciting

 

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thing about being a predator Hunter is I

 

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never am afraid to learn something and I

 

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learned something new this week and it's

 

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awesome to say I'm 57 years old been

 

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hunting since 1978 coyotes and I learned

 

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something new and I want to share it

 

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with these people on this podcast

 

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awesome well that's like I said earlier

 

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that's what it's all about you know we

 

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want to we want to share uh the

 

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knowledge that that guys Hunters like

 

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you have Al with uh with everybody in

 

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the kyot Bobcat Fox you know the

 

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predator hunting world you know way I

 

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see it if you have a little bit of

 

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knowledge on something knowledge isn't

 

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worth much if you can't share it and uh

 

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that's what we're going to do today well

 

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everybody thinks they have a secret you

 

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know or these really Guys these guys

 

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that go out and Crush coyotes on a

 

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regular basis have a secret guess what

 

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they

 

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don't right yeah you know I've said this

 

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many of times you know uh you see a lot

 

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of questions popping up on Facebook

 

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Instagram our Tik Tok channel uh all

 

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these platforms that that we put content

 

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out on or you know and just just fall

 

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along with something like these cold

 

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hunting groups and stuff you see a lot

 

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of questions popping up like hey man

 

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what sounds are working right now or

 

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you'll see guys like man I'm having a

 

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horrible time I can't call in nothing

 

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right now having a lot of dry stands and

 

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they see a lot of success from videos

 

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and from other people's post and you

 

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know I I think these guys get wrapped up

 

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in they think they have to kill a Coy

 

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every single stand um you know I make no

 

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I make a lot of I make a lot of dry

 

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stands do you Al a lot I make more dry

 

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stands than I want to admit but at least

 

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I admit it and I miss a lot more coyotes

 

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than I want to admit but I shoot at a

 

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lot of coyot so right I I catch you see

 

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those comments you know he's the

 

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terrible shot well when you shoot at

 

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hundreds of coyotes a year you're going

 

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to miss a few and I don't mind if we

 

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show them on video it's not that big a

 

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deal to me because I know when I'm

 

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shooting at hundreds of coyotes I'm

 

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going to miss a percentage of those

 

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because we're talking about a small

 

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Target and you know what I'm getting

 

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older my eyes aren't the same my ears

 

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everything it's not the same for me as

 

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we grow and we age uh it's amazing to me

 

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how my body uh can let me down yeah see

 

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the difference with you and me Al is if

 

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I have some misses I make sure they

 

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don't get seen make sure they get cut

 

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out no you you you've showed a few but

 

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very few you shoot really well John

 

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Collins well let's let's get let's get

 

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to the thick of this thing how was uh

 

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how was New Mexico for you guys you know

 

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it was interesting to start out the

 

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first day last Tuesday was 25 35 M hour

 

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winds and I really you know it's we plan

 

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these trips months in advance so we kind

 

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of wanted to show the struggle you know

 

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I said we're going to film some of this

 

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and we're going to try real hard and the

 

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other thing was it was really cold we

 

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roll up on our first first stand and uh

 

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we get out of the truck it's 25 minimum

 

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and I'm like well we'll shorten the

 

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stands down we'll keep it I'm gonna play

 

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loud sounds so I started out with

 

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Lightning Jack and I played Lightning

 

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Jack for about five minutes and then I

 

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switched to woodpecker and that

 

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woodpecker is a really high pitched I

 

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think it pierces the wind really well

 

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and I had played woodpecker about a

 

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minute and a half and those coyotes had

 

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to have H the Lightning Jack because a

 

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pair of coyotes uh Brian TR go straight

 

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down wi boys 350 yards and this par of

 

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coyot had smelled us and is streaking

 

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away over a hill right they were they

 

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were coming and cut your o's wind yes

 

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they come straight down you know and

 

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coyotes will end up I I think a majority

 

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of the coyotes will try to end up

 

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downwind of you oh especially in that

 

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big country like that anywhere but

 

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especially in that big country yeah no

 

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they just and even pups that have never

 

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been called I see circling to get the

 

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wind and I think it just becomes a

 

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safety mechanism for them as they grow

 

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as they learn that summer if they'll

 

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Circle and get the win they know what

 

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they're up against whether it's another

 

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coyote whether it's a rabbit whatever

 

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right so I think that innately coyotes

 

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like to Circle downwind but this pair of

 

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coyotes is downwind 350 yards they are

 

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hauling straight North the M you it's

 

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all on video and it's all going to be

 

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seen um I turned on girl fight and that

 

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male takes a 90° hard turn and runs

 

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right out in front of a straight north

 

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of us the wind's coming out of the West

 

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straight out of the West 23 to 27 M hour

 

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this coyote ends up 270 yards straight

 

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north of me um looking for that sound

 

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but he'd already smelled us so he knew

 

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there was a rat in the hen house and

 

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John I put that Crosshair right he blows

 

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his chest up I put that Crosshair right

 

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on his chest elevated a little towards

 

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his face he's head on to me and I pulled

 

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the trigger and I watched that ELD VT

 

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bullet go right by his face oh no you

 

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missed him I missed him at 270 yards and

 

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so you all Brian spotted these coyes at

 

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350 yards but he when he spot them they

 

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were running away right yes sir they

 

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they were coming and and cut your all's

 

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wind at like 350 and they're leaving

 

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they're leaving the country and you

 

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switch to to girl fight which is a

 

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breeding sound from mfk and it turned

 

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those coats that had already got a snap

 

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female wanted nothing to do with it but

 

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she's going to back her male I know it

 

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was the male that he heard that fighting

 

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sound and come he come a 100 yards on an

 

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angle back straight in front of us and I

 

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forgot to compensate for the wind on my

 

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sh and missed well how many times have

 

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you ever seen a Kyo catch your win and

 

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you still be able to turn him and call

 

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him a positive direction

 

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you I can count them on one hand and

 

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it's probably not very many fingers well

 

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I've seen a coyot that's when I went wow

 

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the power of that sound this time of

 

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year so what that pretty much tells you

 

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is is that's a excellent sound file one

 

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and second thing is that's telling you

 

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that the uh the pool of the breeding

 

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season on his coyotes is starting to get

 

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pretty strong yes sir and it just I mean

 

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I thought wow and then we made the next

 

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five stands in that heavy wind we saw

 

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one other coyote at distance he downwind

 

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Holland

 

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but and I'll be honest with you I got so

 

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frustrated we went in ate lunch and and

 

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uh we spent that afternoon just scouting

 

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looking it we we picked up a whole bunch

 

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of new acres and instead of burning

 

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through those coyotes or instead of

 

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letting those coyotes get downwind and

 

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smell us or just getting frustrated we

 

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decided to use the rest of that day to

 

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uh uh Scout right and look for look at

 

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area and I really think that's a great

 

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you know way to spend time when you

 

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don't want to burn through coyotes in

 

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the wind um go learn the area go look

 

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for the tracks the scat the areas that

 

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you think will hold coyotes and I think

 

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that's as productive as burning up stuff

 

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in the wind oh yeah definitely

 

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definitely so once the wind died down

 

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where you guys could get back into

 

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making stands what it sounds like your

 

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game plan was uh what was your game plan

 

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for Colin on this trip you knew breeding

 

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season was coming up but coou are still

 

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coming to pray to stress really well

 

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what was your mindset going into this

 

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hunt on what type of sound you thought

 

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you were W to play and what did you end

 

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up playing that you had success with the

 

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uh the advantage of this place is we've

 

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hunted it since uh 10 years ago nine

 

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years ago we me and Brian did a fur

 

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taker an original fur taker episode

 

0:10:52.399,0:10:56.320

there that I thought was one of our best

 

0:10:53.920,0:10:57.839

shows and in that episode I would play

 

0:10:56.320,0:10:59.480

Lightning Jack for seven minutes

 

0:10:57.839,0:11:02.200

woodpecker for 7even minutes and I was

 

0:10:59.480,0:11:05.120

pulling the trigger Yep this we're two

 

0:11:02.200,0:11:07.000

weeks later than we were nine years ago

 

0:11:05.120,0:11:10.079

and I wanted to show Brian that

 

0:11:07.000,0:11:12.200

Lightning Jack still had it but on the

 

0:11:10.079,0:11:15.000

first two stands the next morning wind

 

0:11:12.200,0:11:18.560

six miles an hour I said this wind is

 

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not those coyotes live in six mph winds

 

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it doesn't even affect them yeah I know

 

0:11:21.000,0:11:26.000

it doesn't and and it's really doesn't

 

0:11:23.399,0:11:28.680

affect that x24 either that x24 will

 

0:11:26.000,0:11:30.360

Buck six mph wind really easy so the

 

0:11:28.680,0:11:31.760

first stand we set up and I start

 

0:11:30.360,0:11:34.680

playing Lightning Jack then I play

 

0:11:31.760,0:11:36.800

woodpecker and I I this coyote we shows

 

0:11:34.680,0:11:38.360

up at 300 yards and sits down and

 

0:11:36.800,0:11:40.399

actually goes away from us they got

 

0:11:38.360,0:11:42.639

hinky for some reason and these coyotes

 

0:11:40.399,0:11:45.160

hadn't been called it wasn't that they

 

0:11:42.639,0:11:47.639

were pressured coyotes I just think you

 

0:11:45.160,0:11:49.320

know something didn't sound right to

 

0:11:47.639,0:11:52.160

that first group of coyotes and then we

 

0:11:49.320,0:11:53.720

come off a main road and so there is a

 

0:11:52.160,0:11:57.959

chance somebody had been calling off

 

0:11:53.720,0:12:02.880

that main road but um we made two

 

0:11:57.959,0:12:05.040

stands early there and had a coyote Burn

 

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Right By Us on the first stand the

 

0:12:05.040,0:12:11.079

second stand the coyote pegged up at 350

 

0:12:07.880,0:12:13.600

400 yards and got hany and left and the

 

0:12:11.079,0:12:15.120

third stand I just was frustrated I

 

0:12:13.600,0:12:18.000

didn't know what to do but I still

 

0:12:15.120,0:12:20.920

wanted to try my the the theory so I I

 

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just for whatever reason chose kg Cotton

 

0:12:20.920,0:12:26.399

Tail oh that's one of my favorite tail

 

0:12:24.199,0:12:30.920

and I played decided to play kg for

 

0:12:26.399,0:12:33.320

seven minutes and played Ki and a coyote

 

0:12:30.920,0:12:36.079

shows up at three minutes on a fence 300

 

0:12:33.320,0:12:37.560

yards uh straight up wind the wind was

 

0:12:36.079,0:12:39.399

coming out of the West again and this

 

0:12:37.560,0:12:41.680

coyote is straight west of us the sun's

 

0:12:39.399,0:12:43.959

coming up behind us winds in our face

 

0:12:41.680,0:12:47.000

perfect conditions that way we're hid by

 

0:12:43.959,0:12:48.880

these yucka plant and this coyote Works

 

0:12:47.000,0:12:51.639

its way down this fence line but still

 

0:12:48.880,0:12:53.880

at about 250 when all of a sudden I

 

0:12:51.639,0:12:57.199

switch to woodpecker and it really

 

0:12:53.880,0:12:58.959

starts coming closer to about 200 and

 

0:12:57.199,0:13:01.160

we're all getting excited watching this

 

0:12:58.959,0:13:03.600

coyote out on the fence and Brian looks

 

0:13:01.160,0:13:07.120

left and here comes a coyote through a

 

0:13:03.600,0:13:09.360

Corral right up to us 80 yards of course

 

0:13:07.120,0:13:11.760

we're not going to not pluck that Apple

 

0:13:09.360,0:13:14.720

that's right right so he blow he blows

 

0:13:11.760,0:13:17.199

his chest out and we double tap him

 

0:13:14.720,0:13:19.720

right there at 80 yards well that coyote

 

0:13:17.199,0:13:21.880

takes off running so I play some and the

 

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other thing I was playing is I you're

 

0:13:21.880,0:13:25.920

talking about the the first C that y'all

 

0:13:23.800,0:13:29.399

initially seen coming down the fenro is

 

0:13:25.920,0:13:33.720

now heading out right yeah no it's gone

 

0:13:29.399,0:13:36.639

yeah it's gone and I hit pup distress 3

 

0:13:33.720,0:13:39.880

I was playing some Ravens I like to play

 

0:13:36.639,0:13:41.720

the the rabbit I like to play Ravens and

 

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then I'll play the bird I'll play the

 

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you know the Woodpecker and I'll I'll

 

0:13:43.320,0:13:49.639

play The Raven sound and uh

 

0:13:47.000,0:13:52.880

anyway for whatever reason I play sister

 

0:13:49.639,0:13:58.800

pair how and it was kind of a new

 

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how and uh and uh to me it was a new how

 

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we just got those sounds here a few

 

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months ago yep I like sister perow I

 

0:14:02.839,0:14:07.040

played it a lot back in the fall and

 

0:14:04.720,0:14:09.639

late summer and absolutely slaughtered

 

0:14:07.040,0:14:11.519

the coyotes around around Kentucky and

 

0:14:09.639,0:14:14.000

we played it some in Kansas I mean I

 

0:14:11.519,0:14:17.880

mean it's it I like that how it's a good

 

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one and so I turn

 

0:14:17.880,0:14:23.040

on uh sister peral and three coyotes

 

0:14:20.839,0:14:24.680

show up at the fence about 350 yards

 

0:14:23.040,0:14:27.079

straight west of us again where they

 

0:14:24.680,0:14:28.240

that first Kyo came from MH and now

 

0:14:27.079,0:14:31.040

there's three of them up there but

 

0:14:28.240,0:14:33.279

they're kind of hany I turned on girl

 

0:14:31.040,0:14:34.839

fight and they were kicking and

 

0:14:33.279,0:14:36.880

scratching we could see him out there

 

0:14:34.839,0:14:39.279

kicking and scratching and getting

 

0:14:36.880,0:14:42.399

aggressive and for whatever reason I

 

0:14:39.279,0:14:44.440

just decided to turn on Vol squeaks just

 

0:14:42.399,0:14:45.759

to see if you know I I let him know

 

0:14:44.440,0:14:47.160

there was coyotes I let him know those

 

0:14:45.759,0:14:49.199

coyotes were fighting over stuff but I

 

0:14:47.160,0:14:51.360

turned on Vol squeaks and all of a

 

0:14:49.199,0:14:53.000

sudden Brian goes right here 150 coming

 

0:14:51.360,0:14:55.120

hard and this other coyote comes up

 

0:14:53.000,0:14:57.519

there Brian shoots it it's spins takes

 

0:14:55.120,0:15:00.639

off running and I dumped him dumped her

 

0:14:57.519,0:15:03.920

on the Run awesome and and we had a

 

0:15:00.639,0:15:05.560

double and honestly we didn't call

 

0:15:03.920,0:15:07.040

Coyote Well we called coyot we saw

 

0:15:05.560,0:15:09.360

coyotes on the first two stands but we

 

0:15:07.040,0:15:11.600

kill a double then we go to the very

 

0:15:09.360,0:15:13.519

next stand and it's where I started I

 

0:15:11.600,0:15:17.160

really learned something on the next

 

0:15:13.519,0:15:21.240

stand because I had a pretty solid uh

 

0:15:17.160,0:15:23.440

idea that uh the rabbit was working but

 

0:15:21.240,0:15:25.000

after the rabbit for that 10 12 minutes

 

0:15:23.440,0:15:27.839

I could go to vocals and I would still

 

0:15:25.000,0:15:30.240

get some other reactions so we sat down

 

0:15:27.839,0:15:32.920

turned on Kate Cotton Tail uh two and a

 

0:15:30.240,0:15:35.079

half minutes into kg Cotton Tail a big

 

0:15:32.920,0:15:36.920

old male and he turns out to be a big

 

0:15:35.079,0:15:38.399

old male and his female was following

 

0:15:36.920,0:15:40.959

him but he was pushing in ahead of that

 

0:15:38.399,0:15:44.040

female and it was cold our temperatures

 

0:15:40.959,0:15:46.720

were in the 20s and uh that big old male

 

0:15:44.040,0:15:50.000

pushes up there 75 yards uh Brian

 

0:15:46.720,0:15:52.639

Trussell takes that Ruger American Gen 2

 

0:15:50.000,0:15:55.199

rifle and hits him Center chest and just

 

0:15:52.639,0:15:58.240

dumps him and that female her and she

 

0:15:55.199,0:16:00.600

boy I mean that coyote left the country

 

0:15:58.240,0:16:00.600

and

 

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what is it what is it about these

 

0:16:02.639,0:16:08.040

females they just ain't near as Loyals

 

0:16:05.279,0:16:09.800

and males are they no not this time of

 

0:16:08.040,0:16:11.959

year I don't think so but I learned

 

0:16:09.800,0:16:15.120

something I've got my wife Crystal she

 

0:16:11.959,0:16:16.959

they're home from school today they got

 

0:16:15.120,0:16:18.600

schools called off for snow and she's

 

0:16:16.959,0:16:20.720

over on the couch I told her I said you

 

0:16:18.600,0:16:23.839

gota be quiet I'm doing a podcast today

 

0:16:20.720,0:16:26.199

and I mentioned that females ain't loyal

 

0:16:23.839,0:16:27.839

like your men are those males are she

 

0:16:26.199,0:16:29.160

but you got a funny look didn't you I

 

0:16:27.839,0:16:31.120

looked over at her just make sure she

 

0:16:29.160,0:16:33.480

heard it she turned around boy I got a

 

0:16:31.120,0:16:33.480

foul

 

0:16:33.959,0:16:40.800

look well we're talking

 

0:16:37.199,0:16:42.920

about yeah we're talking about KY babe

 

0:16:40.800,0:16:45.959

anyway uh I got to meet your wife at

 

0:16:42.920,0:16:50.440

Christmas and she's a you're a lucky man

 

0:16:45.959,0:16:52.040

I uh I I turned on uh woodpecker after

 

0:16:50.440,0:16:54.399

we shot that coyot I went my seven

 

0:16:52.040,0:16:56.680

minutes with KGI I turned on the

 

0:16:54.399,0:16:58.199

Woodpecker and I was playing Ravens and

 

0:16:56.680,0:17:00.560

I looked out there and here comes this

 

0:16:58.199,0:17:04.000

Kyle out sneaking in right out in front

 

0:17:00.560,0:17:06.720

of a straight west straight up wind cow

 

0:17:04.000,0:17:08.120

you know kind of hiding from the call

 

0:17:06.720,0:17:11.839

and I thought that's funny and it gets

 

0:17:08.120,0:17:14.160

up there 10 and some yards and uh it

 

0:17:11.839,0:17:17.319

actually comes in and smells the dead

 

0:17:14.160,0:17:19.880

male and when she smelled the dead maale

 

0:17:17.319,0:17:22.120

she kind of Loops back and facing away

 

0:17:19.880,0:17:24.679

from us and I went to shoot that coyote

 

0:17:22.120,0:17:26.559

with my 65 creedmore and it hadn't

 

0:17:24.679,0:17:28.520

picked up it's it's brand new and I

 

0:17:26.559,0:17:30.000

dipped it in some Cam and every now and

 

0:17:28.520,0:17:32.080

then it has a feeding issue and it's

 

0:17:30.000,0:17:34.720

just because I haven't oh you you

 

0:17:32.080,0:17:37.120

skipped over the next round yes and it

 

0:17:34.720,0:17:38.919

needs to it just needs some more love

 

0:17:37.120,0:17:40.280

that just needs another five or six

 

0:17:38.919,0:17:42.919

boxes through it before it's going to

 

0:17:40.280,0:17:46.280

run like a top y all the time in that

 

0:17:42.919,0:17:48.039

cold and uh I go click well when I went

 

0:17:46.280,0:17:50.720

click oh Brian trussle says good enough

 

0:17:48.039,0:17:52.960

for me and he pulled the that Coy and

 

0:17:50.720,0:17:56.240

that coyote spun and took off on the

 

0:17:52.960,0:17:59.280

dead run well I racked the action and I

 

0:17:56.240,0:18:02.600

uh I racked that action and that coyote

 

0:17:59.280,0:18:04.840

was running Full Tilt with a 223 bullet

 

0:18:02.600,0:18:07.520

in him and I dumped it on the Run nice

 

0:18:04.840,0:18:12.280

so I was all excited about my shot and I

 

0:18:07.520,0:18:15.159

turned on sister per how and pup screams

 

0:18:12.280,0:18:17.080

and sister per how and pup screams and

 

0:18:15.159,0:18:19.240

all of a sudden Brian goes look at that

 

0:18:17.080,0:18:21.039

coyote coming off the far Hill well I

 

0:18:19.240,0:18:24.080

couldn't even see that far John it was a

 

0:18:21.039,0:18:26.000

mile and a half to that other Hill I

 

0:18:24.080,0:18:27.960

kept doing some pup screams and I kept

 

0:18:26.000,0:18:29.240

doing sister per how and then I turned

 

0:18:27.960,0:18:33.480

on

 

0:18:29.240,0:18:35.240

girl fight yep and this coyote at 400

 

0:18:33.480,0:18:40.159

yards just

 

0:18:35.240,0:18:44.440

goes I mean screaming at us so I played

 

0:18:40.159,0:18:48.600

a little more um I played a little more

 

0:18:44.440,0:18:51.400

uh I played a little more uh uh girl

 

0:18:48.600,0:18:52.799

fight and every time I'd hit girl fight

 

0:18:51.400,0:18:54.120

that coyote would answer us and you're

 

0:18:52.799,0:18:56.360

going to hear it even though we were

 

0:18:54.120,0:18:57.799

wearing the mics both me and Brian

 

0:18:56.360,0:19:01.840

you're going to hear and you're going to

 

0:18:57.799,0:19:04.240

see that that coyote at 300 yards just

 

0:19:01.840,0:19:07.159

giving it to us I'm thinking this big

 

0:19:04.240,0:19:09.679

old male can't take it and it posts up

 

0:19:07.159,0:19:12.360

at about 250 and it sees us I mean it's

 

0:19:09.679,0:19:14.600

down it's downhill we're skylined it was

 

0:19:12.360,0:19:16.799

the only place of coyote we'd be Skyline

 

0:19:14.600,0:19:19.240

to a coyote yeah is the only place lower

 

0:19:16.799,0:19:20.799

than us in the valley and that coyote

 

0:19:19.240,0:19:23.080

saw us up there and wasn't coming any

 

0:19:20.799,0:19:25.720

closer and it was head on to me 250

 

0:19:23.080,0:19:28.679

yards I pulled the trigger did a classic

 

0:19:25.720,0:19:30.280

Miss again but shooting that AR10 picked

 

0:19:28.679,0:19:33.240

up every bullet after that and it took

 

0:19:30.280,0:19:36.120

me three rounds but I hit that KY Full

 

0:19:33.240,0:19:39.880

Tilt running at about 270

 

0:19:36.120,0:19:41.520

280 and uh slowed her down and that's

 

0:19:39.880,0:19:43.400

the part that really blew me away I

 

0:19:41.520,0:19:46.280

walked down there to collect that coyote

 

0:19:43.400,0:19:49.280

Brian went to collect his two up there

 

0:19:46.280,0:19:51.840

and it was a big female and she did not

 

0:19:49.280,0:19:53.880

have a tooth in her head really she

 

0:19:51.840,0:19:56.320

didn't she didn't have any upper canines

 

0:19:53.880,0:19:59.640

she only had one lower canine and it was

 

0:19:56.320,0:20:01.080

a stub and so so that coyote I I was

 

0:19:59.640,0:20:02.960

reading an article the other day that

 

0:20:01.080,0:20:05.640

says coyotes will live 21 there's a

 

0:20:02.960,0:20:07.760

coyote Liv 21 years in a zoo good grief

 

0:20:05.640,0:20:09.559

so that they yeah they think a coyotes

 

0:20:07.760,0:20:11.919

can live 20 years in captivity but they

 

0:20:09.559,0:20:13.679

only live six to eight years in the wild

 

0:20:11.919,0:20:15.039

right well I've seen other stuff I've

 

0:20:13.679,0:20:17.880

read other stuff where a guy said

 

0:20:15.039,0:20:21.280

they'll live 10 to 12 years in the wild

 

0:20:17.880,0:20:26.080

but uh either way you call in a coyote

 

0:20:21.280,0:20:28.960

that has no teeth 6 to 8 to 12 years old

 

0:20:26.080,0:20:31.360

but it was a female yeah it really blew

 

0:20:28.960,0:20:33.960

my mind that this female and so I

 

0:20:31.360,0:20:36.240

started formulating in my head this

 

0:20:33.960,0:20:39.480

preut and I really think we're preut

 

0:20:36.240,0:20:42.039

right now I mean when do your white tail

 

0:20:39.480,0:20:44.720

in Kentucky what week is the prime rut

 

0:20:42.039,0:20:46.360

week for Kentucky white tails I think

 

0:20:44.720,0:20:47.919

they say like the peak of breeding here

 

0:20:46.360,0:20:51.159

is like second week of

 

0:20:47.919,0:20:53.280

November okay so and in Minnesota it's

 

0:20:51.159,0:20:55.159

probably the first week of November and

 

0:20:53.280,0:20:58.440

then if you go to Texas they breed clear

 

0:20:55.159,0:21:00.360

into January December you know yep so I

 

0:20:58.440,0:21:03.240

know that it changes across the country

 

0:21:00.360,0:21:05.320

for deal but I honestly think coyotes

 

0:21:03.240,0:21:08.120

are pretty consistent across from Old

 

0:21:05.320,0:21:11.880

Mexico to Alberta Canada they probably

 

0:21:08.120,0:21:13.919

breed around the 15th of February that's

 

0:21:11.880,0:21:16.720

that's what I've always heard you know

 

0:21:13.919,0:21:19.600

is you know Nationwide is that's the

 

0:21:16.720,0:21:22.159

average Peak breeding and then of course

 

0:21:19.600,0:21:25.520

what is it 60 62 days later we have pups

 

0:21:22.159,0:21:28.200

in the ground yeah no it's 62 day dation

 

0:21:25.520,0:21:30.600

period just like a dog no different yep

 

0:21:28.200,0:21:32.679

and so and that's what I basee my whole

 

0:21:30.600,0:21:36.360

year around is this this this uh

 

0:21:32.679,0:21:37.640

breeding that takes place but this preut

 

0:21:36.360,0:21:39.279

and I've noticed through the years but

 

0:21:37.640,0:21:42.159

it never was as prevalent to me as it

 

0:21:39.279,0:21:45.600

was this trip so fast forward we shoot a

 

0:21:42.159,0:21:47.919

double we shoot a triple very next stand

 

0:21:45.600,0:21:50.480

doing the rabbit doing the Woodpecker

 

0:21:47.919,0:21:53.400

two coyotes come by us I kill both those

 

0:21:50.480,0:21:56.559

coyotes we got another double then we

 

0:21:53.400,0:21:58.520

work up on this hill and uh doing the

 

0:21:56.559,0:22:01.000

rabbit doing the woodpecker I'm looking

 

0:21:58.520,0:22:03.840

at a coyote at 350 yards that's iny

 

0:22:01.000,0:22:05.679

won't come to the rabbit I look or my

 

0:22:03.840,0:22:09.240

cameraman Lance looks left and says why

 

0:22:05.679,0:22:12.480

don't you shoot this coyote at 150

 

0:22:09.240,0:22:15.200

yards and so we shoot that

 

0:22:12.480,0:22:18.279

coyote and uh we put those coyotes it

 

0:22:15.200,0:22:20.919

was eight coyotes on video and we only

 

0:22:18.279,0:22:23.640

missed the very last stand the the

 

0:22:20.919,0:22:25.440

second best stand my the day right as

 

0:22:23.640,0:22:29.080

the sun was going down we did not call a

 

0:22:25.440,0:22:31.400

coyot in and I don't know why other than

 

0:22:29.080,0:22:34.559

um the wind kind of switched out of the

 

0:22:31.400,0:22:35.799

East right at dark and I got a theory

 

0:22:34.559,0:22:38.400

about that we're going to talk about a

 

0:22:35.799,0:22:40.240

little later but the next morning I am

 

0:22:38.400,0:22:42.880

jacked up because we just put eight on

 

0:22:40.240,0:22:45.039

film I think we are really going to roll

 

0:22:42.880,0:22:48.240

and the very first stand of the morning

 

0:22:45.039,0:22:50.799

called in a big mail to Rabbit he comes

 

0:22:48.240,0:22:52.480

in early uh Brian Trussell went right

 

0:22:50.799,0:22:54.240

between his ears and missed him and he

 

0:22:52.480,0:22:56.400

took off run and didn't get three steps

 

0:22:54.240,0:22:58.799

and I put him down and we're off and

 

0:22:56.400,0:23:00.520

rolling the next stand we had coyotes

 

0:22:58.799,0:23:04.000

all around us we actually called three

 

0:23:00.520,0:23:07.520

coyotes in and

 

0:23:04.000,0:23:09.360

uh uh didn't get any of them between the

 

0:23:07.520,0:23:10.880

cameraman not seeing them when we saw

 

0:23:09.360,0:23:13.320

him and then the camera saw him and we

 

0:23:10.880,0:23:15.159

couldn't see him three coyotes came in

 

0:23:13.320,0:23:17.400

with gun range and we did not pull the

 

0:23:15.159,0:23:18.960

trigger on any of them and that's the

 

0:23:17.400,0:23:20.320

frustration of filming because if we'

 

0:23:18.960,0:23:23.279

had just been killing we'd have killed

 

0:23:20.320,0:23:27.039

three coyotes easy on that St right so

 

0:23:23.279,0:23:29.720

so so the Collins seems like was was for

 

0:23:27.039,0:23:31.320

the most part excellent y'all killed a

 

0:23:29.720,0:23:33.720

couple doubles a

 

0:23:31.320,0:23:36.440

triple yeah no we ended up and the very

 

0:23:33.720,0:23:38.919

next stand we kill another double really

 

0:23:36.440,0:23:42.600

so yes so how many how many cows did

 

0:23:38.919,0:23:45.679

y'all end up with total TW we we we we

 

0:23:42.600,0:23:48.600

ended up with 12 on video and 13 overall

 

0:23:45.679,0:23:51.760

14 overall two of them didn't make a

 

0:23:48.600,0:23:53.760

video so you kill four you kill 14 cows

 

0:23:51.760,0:23:56.240

and what two days or two and a half days

 

0:23:53.760,0:23:58.679

day and a half day and a half yes day

 

0:23:56.240,0:24:00.120

and a half we'll talk about about it but

 

0:23:58.679,0:24:01.919

the the the one stand I really want to

 

0:24:00.120,0:24:04.960

talk about is the last single and it's

 

0:24:01.919,0:24:07.960

all on video I turn on the rabbit and a

 

0:24:04.960,0:24:10.159

coyote pops up 300 280 yards straight in

 

0:24:07.960,0:24:13.159

front of us looks up there sees us turns

 

0:24:10.159,0:24:15.320

and leaves and I take a running shot at

 

0:24:13.159,0:24:16.640

500 yards just because you can't kill

 

0:24:15.320,0:24:19.080

them if you don't pull the trigger hey

 

0:24:16.640,0:24:21.679

when there's Le in air there's danger

 

0:24:19.080,0:24:23.600

there's a prayer absolutely and that hux

 

0:24:21.679,0:24:25.320

works I have confidence and I really

 

0:24:23.600,0:24:27.600

think the reason we shot three doubles

 

0:24:25.320,0:24:29.679

and a triple is because we had those hux

 

0:24:27.600,0:24:32.760

work on the front of those rifles it it

 

0:24:29.679,0:24:34.480

changes that noise coyotes at 300 yards

 

0:24:32.760,0:24:36.080

don't know what that noise is coming out

 

0:24:34.480,0:24:38.919

of suppressor it doesn't sound like a

 

0:24:36.080,0:24:40.360

rifle shot it's just suppressed noise

 

0:24:38.919,0:24:42.279

and that's really all you're looking for

 

0:24:40.360,0:24:44.520

when you buy a suppressor and you might

 

0:24:42.279,0:24:48.640

as well buy the best the lightest I put

 

0:24:44.520,0:24:51.360

that 762 flow titanium can on that Ruger

 

0:24:48.640,0:24:53.919

American gen 2223 and it was whisper

 

0:24:51.360,0:24:57.320

quiet a 30 caliber can on the front of a

 

0:24:53.919,0:24:59.559

223 rifle and it worked it's only 11.3

 

0:24:57.320,0:25:02.320

ounces and it looks sexy as heck on that

 

0:24:59.559,0:25:05.600

fluted Ruger Gen 2 Barrel so it was

 

0:25:02.320,0:25:07.640

awesome but this last KY we we go into

 

0:25:05.600,0:25:09.440

it I played the rabbit I played the

 

0:25:07.640,0:25:10.799

Woodpecker and I'm I'm about seven

 

0:25:09.440,0:25:13.159

minutes into the Woodpecker so we're

 

0:25:10.799,0:25:14.880

about 14 minutes on stand I look left

 

0:25:13.159,0:25:17.799

and a coyotes coming off the hill going

 

0:25:14.880,0:25:20.240

away from us and I thought what the

 

0:25:17.799,0:25:21.600

heavens are these coyotes so hinky you

 

0:25:20.240,0:25:23.440

know they're coming to the sound but

 

0:25:21.600,0:25:25.120

when they get within 300 yards it seems

 

0:25:23.440,0:25:26.600

like they're like I'm out of here I

 

0:25:25.120,0:25:29.360

don't like what I you know it just

 

0:25:26.600,0:25:31.159

doesn't sound right or just I don't know

 

0:25:29.360,0:25:32.600

what a Coy why a coyote would get hky

 

0:25:31.159,0:25:33.840

that's never been called to and I really

 

0:25:32.600,0:25:36.399

don't think this coyote had ever been

 

0:25:33.840,0:25:38.840

called to for whatever reason John I

 

0:25:36.399,0:25:42.440

just switch straight to girl fight and

 

0:25:38.840,0:25:45.399

that coyote takes a hard 90 comes right

 

0:25:42.440,0:25:49.080

back in front of us 180 yards me and

 

0:25:45.399,0:25:52.320

Brian Trussell double tap her and she

 

0:25:49.080,0:25:54.600

actually barked coming in really to to

 

0:25:52.320,0:25:57.399

the girl fight and that was the second

 

0:25:54.600,0:26:00.320

female out of the 12 we put on video

 

0:25:57.399,0:26:02.080

that came in aggressively to girl fight

 

0:26:00.320,0:26:04.080

and that's when this little old Beady

 

0:26:02.080,0:26:08.000

brain of mine goes you know what these

 

0:26:04.080,0:26:09.559

females must be so territorial right now

 

0:26:08.000,0:26:11.440

that even though they weren't sure they

 

0:26:09.559,0:26:14.840

wanted to come to the food sounds when I

 

0:26:11.440,0:26:17.520

turned on that sister peral and that

 

0:26:14.840,0:26:19.720

girl fight they had girl coyotes in

 

0:26:17.520,0:26:22.200

their core home area and they would not

 

0:26:19.720,0:26:24.840

stand for it they weren't going to just

 

0:26:22.200,0:26:27.000

let it go without some investigation

 

0:26:24.840,0:26:30.720

right and it it really made the

 

0:26:27.000,0:26:32.559

difference for this trip and um that's

 

0:26:30.720,0:26:34.440

when I realized I I've just always

 

0:26:32.559,0:26:36.919

thought that the fox TR library was

 

0:26:34.440,0:26:38.039

perfect and part of that reason I always

 

0:26:36.919,0:26:40.799

thought it was perfect because I've

 

0:26:38.039,0:26:42.880

always had a diaphragm in my mouth and

 

0:26:40.799,0:26:45.799

before we had electronic calls me and

 

0:26:42.880,0:26:48.760

Garvin I mean we had good electronic

 

0:26:45.799,0:26:52.360

calls the last few years of our career

 

0:26:48.760,0:26:54.760

but in 1997 all we had was a Cersei hand

 

0:26:52.360,0:26:57.679

call in garvin's hands and a diaphragm

 

0:26:54.760,0:26:59.000

elk call in my mouth and Garvin would

 

0:26:57.679,0:27:01.080

sit over there and blow the rabbit

 

0:26:59.000,0:27:04.080

distress and I would sit over there and

 

0:27:01.080,0:27:07.520

howl I would pup distress and I would

 

0:27:04.080,0:27:08.840

cayy and I would wimper on a diaphragm

 

0:27:07.520,0:27:10.640

and it was always the first week of

 

0:27:08.840,0:27:13.159

December is when the World Championships

 

0:27:10.640,0:27:15.039

were and we managed to scratch out four

 

0:27:13.159,0:27:17.000

of them and I didn't realize how

 

0:27:15.039,0:27:20.159

important some of those vocals I was

 

0:27:17.000,0:27:22.440

making with the diaphragm well now we

 

0:27:20.159,0:27:24.320

have a guy named Tory cook in Arkansas

 

0:27:22.440,0:27:26.200

that is getting these vocals from real

 

0:27:24.320,0:27:28.080

coyotes that are real wild coyotes

 

0:27:26.200,0:27:29.960

they're not in a pen they live with he

 

0:27:28.080,0:27:32.240

you know Tori lives with the coyotes

 

0:27:29.960,0:27:35.440

it's like National Geographic around his

 

0:27:32.240,0:27:38.320

place I'm sure right with these coyotes

 

0:27:35.440,0:27:40.720

and uh I think Tori is getting some

 

0:27:38.320,0:27:42.640

sounds that nobody else is getting yes

 

0:27:40.720,0:27:44.320

they're coyotes but they're in a pen or

 

0:27:42.640,0:27:46.360

they're in their house or wherever they

 

0:27:44.320,0:27:49.519

keep these coyotes they aren't doing

 

0:27:46.360,0:27:51.919

what wild coyotes do these coyotes tor's

 

0:27:49.519,0:27:54.960

recording are wild coyotes and when we

 

0:27:51.919,0:27:57.880

added the nfk library to that fox Pro

 

0:27:54.960,0:28:00.240

Library I really and you give me a DI

 

0:27:57.880,0:28:02.240

called John Collins I am so confident

 

0:28:00.240,0:28:05.399

even when you came to Arizona with me I

 

0:28:02.240,0:28:07.240

was so confident in the sequences and

 

0:28:05.399,0:28:10.440

and I've got a sequence that I'm running

 

0:28:07.240,0:28:13.159

year round 247 365 day night doesn't

 

0:28:10.440,0:28:15.559

matter I'll modify the minutes that I

 

0:28:13.159,0:28:17.399

play sounds in that sequence but at the

 

0:28:15.559,0:28:20.720

end of the day to see these female

 

0:28:17.399,0:28:22.960

coyotes pushing in on this girl fight

 

0:28:20.720,0:28:25.880

this time of year mid January late

 

0:28:22.960,0:28:27.559

January knowing that next month we can

 

0:28:25.880,0:28:30.559

go into some of these really heavy duty

 

0:28:27.559,0:28:32.200

breeding sounds that have come out um I

 

0:28:30.559,0:28:35.440

still don't have them loaded on my unit

 

0:28:32.200,0:28:37.279

I got to get jod to get them loaded and

 

0:28:35.440,0:28:39.679

I am so excited to try some of these

 

0:28:37.279,0:28:41.640

other sounds that are coming up well I

 

0:28:39.679,0:28:43.120

mean I think you made a really good

 

0:28:41.640,0:28:45.880

point there you know if you're taking

 

0:28:43.120,0:28:48.240

advantage of the fox Pro library and the

 

0:28:45.880,0:28:50.519

mfk library and plus you're taking

 

0:28:48.240,0:28:52.880

advantage of uh you're mixing hand calls

 

0:28:50.519,0:28:55.240

and mouth diaphragms in the mix you've

 

0:28:52.880,0:28:58.559

just turned yourself into a very

 

0:28:55.240,0:29:02.760

well-rounded Predator collar out collar

 

0:28:58.559,0:29:05.399

um and I think you know to be to be a

 

0:29:02.760,0:29:07.200

step above you got to do stuff like that

 

0:29:05.399,0:29:09.159

you know if you can take advantage of

 

0:29:07.200,0:29:11.840

those three things you're going to

 

0:29:09.159,0:29:14.039

be probably you know in most

 

0:29:11.840,0:29:16.919

circumstances uh apt to call in more

 

0:29:14.039,0:29:19.200

coats more Bobcats more Fox all that

 

0:29:16.919,0:29:21.200

stuff if you're taking advantage of a

 

0:29:19.200,0:29:23.760

couple different libraries such as the

 

0:29:21.200,0:29:25.919

mfk and the fox Pro and then you mixing

 

0:29:23.760,0:29:27.760

in the hand call stuff I mean it's going

 

0:29:25.919,0:29:31.080

to put you A Step Above somebody is just

 

0:29:27.760,0:29:34.880

running say just one library or just

 

0:29:31.080,0:29:36.960

running I have never I can't tell you

 

0:29:34.880,0:29:38.760

how many World Championships I think me

 

0:29:36.960,0:29:41.320

and Garin would have won had we had the

 

0:29:38.760,0:29:43.840

mfk library had our fingertip I saw a

 

0:29:41.320,0:29:46.519

guy on a on a Facebook group the other

 

0:29:43.840,0:29:48.480

day somebody was asking about you know

 

0:29:46.519,0:29:50.039

what would be what is what what call

 

0:29:48.480,0:29:52.399

does he need to buy and what sounds does

 

0:29:50.039,0:29:54.559

he need to run I seen somebody get in

 

0:29:52.399,0:29:56.320

there and actually made the comment I

 

0:29:54.559,0:29:58.519

you know I wouldn't want to comment on

 

0:29:56.320,0:30:00.279

it on the on the group group page but

 

0:29:58.519,0:30:02.159

the guy said just get you a set of hand

 

0:30:00.279,0:30:05.679

calls you'll call just as many coyotes

 

0:30:02.159,0:30:09.039

as everybody else e calls overrated well

 

0:30:05.679,0:30:11.159

no sir go enter the worlds go enter the

 

0:30:09.039,0:30:14.039

Eastern when it was going on go enter up

 

0:30:11.159,0:30:16.240

any these big time contests that's been

 

0:30:14.039,0:30:18.519

going on enter the big bobcat contest

 

0:30:16.240,0:30:20.799

down there in Texas with all those teams

 

0:30:18.519,0:30:23.720

coming in trying to kill a bobcat that's

 

0:30:20.799,0:30:25.320

worth tens of thousands of dollars I

 

0:30:23.720,0:30:28.200

guarantee you the first place ain't

 

0:30:25.320,0:30:29.480

running just hand cost I not saying

 

0:30:28.200,0:30:32.080

there some of these guys can do pretty

 

0:30:29.480,0:30:32.080

good

 

0:30:32.240,0:30:36.799

but no if you wanna if you want to bring

 

0:30:34.840,0:30:39.760

numbers to the table you've got to use

 

0:30:36.799,0:30:41.159

all those tools at your disposal and and

 

0:30:39.760,0:30:42.799

you know we preface that that it was

 

0:30:41.159,0:30:44.360

Bill CIS rules in the World Champ

 

0:30:42.799,0:30:46.120

there's still a world championship out

 

0:30:44.360,0:30:47.840

there but the rules are different than

 

0:30:46.120,0:30:49.440

the rules me and Garin had to play by

 

0:30:47.840,0:30:51.840

it's more of a participation medal and

 

0:30:49.440,0:30:54.919

that's my opinion and uh you don't have

 

0:30:51.840,0:30:57.360

to agree with me uh out there in in on

 

0:30:54.919,0:30:58.960

our podcast world but the world champion

 

0:30:57.360,0:31:01.320

ship today is not the world championship

 

0:30:58.960,0:31:03.639

me and Garvin participated in and it's a

 

0:31:01.320,0:31:06.480

shame because it was brought back in

 

0:31:03.639,0:31:08.799

1988 I think that that format that

 

0:31:06.480,0:31:11.039

championship's perfect but we all roll

 

0:31:08.799,0:31:12.559

the same boat and it's project coyote

 

0:31:11.039,0:31:15.320

and fun for Animals these people don't

 

0:31:12.559,0:31:17.000

want us hun in coyotes at all and what

 

0:31:15.320,0:31:20.279

people out there need to listen to too

 

0:31:17.000,0:31:21.440

is is uh once they get coyote hunting

 

0:31:20.279,0:31:22.559

shut down they're going to go after your

 

0:31:21.440,0:31:24.039

deer hunting they're going to go after

 

0:31:22.559,0:31:26.639

your bird hunting so don't think just

 

0:31:24.039,0:31:28.799

because you hunt Chuckers in in Nevada

 

0:31:26.639,0:31:30.600

that that uh these people shutting down

 

0:31:28.799,0:31:32.360

a coyote contest is going to affect you

 

0:31:30.600,0:31:34.399

it will cuz when they get done shutting

 

0:31:32.360,0:31:36.039

down Lions Bears coyotes they're going

 

0:31:34.399,0:31:38.039

to come after your chucker honey that's

 

0:31:36.039,0:31:40.360

right just get get their foot in the

 

0:31:38.039,0:31:41.559

door yep we're all rolling the same boat

 

0:31:40.360,0:31:43.559

so we got to remember that and that's

 

0:31:41.559,0:31:47.080

all that that's all I'll say on that

 

0:31:43.559,0:31:50.080

note um it was very interesting to me to

 

0:31:47.080,0:31:53.000

be 57 years old and learn and really

 

0:31:50.080,0:31:55.080

come to the realization that females I

 

0:31:53.000,0:31:57.679

really think these female coyotes this

 

0:31:55.080,0:31:59.799

time of year are more ter teritorial

 

0:31:57.679,0:32:01.679

than the males were and the males were

 

0:31:59.799,0:32:03.399

more interested in eating because of the

 

0:32:01.679,0:32:05.000

cold temperatures and stuff the other

 

0:32:03.399,0:32:06.679

thing I don't think people realize John

 

0:32:05.000,0:32:09.639

is these kyes are still growing this

 

0:32:06.679,0:32:12.440

hair oh yeah now the hair is pretty well

 

0:32:09.639,0:32:14.039

grown that more October november-ish

 

0:32:12.440,0:32:15.760

December is they're growing that that

 

0:32:14.039,0:32:17.240

hair is growing a lot they need a lot of

 

0:32:15.760,0:32:18.600

calories to grow that hair that's going

 

0:32:17.240,0:32:20.000

to get you know that's their that's

 

0:32:18.600,0:32:22.200

their winter coat that's got to get them

 

0:32:20.000,0:32:24.919

through these cold negative degree

 

0:32:22.200,0:32:26.639

temperatures and I see on Facebook all

 

0:32:24.919,0:32:28.480

these people if you have your dog it's

 

0:32:26.639,0:32:31.320

it's 20 degrees out there and if your

 

0:32:28.480,0:32:34.279

dog's outside I hate you that dog of

 

0:32:31.320,0:32:37.480

mine has a fur coat and he's laying in

 

0:32:34.279,0:32:39.440

straw in a kennel so you can kiss my

 

0:32:37.480,0:32:41.960

butt if you think I'm worried about that

 

0:32:39.440,0:32:43.960

dog out there he's tough he's got a fur

 

0:32:41.960,0:32:46.480

coat and he's laying in straw those

 

0:32:43.960,0:32:49.200

coyotes don't have the straw in a dog

 

0:32:46.480,0:32:51.720

box those coyotes wrap that tail around

 

0:32:49.200,0:32:54.320

them and they live just fine to minus 30

 

0:32:51.720,0:32:56.320

right so don't worry about the animals

 

0:32:54.320,0:32:58.519

that are built for it those cattle they

 

0:32:56.320,0:33:02.080

have a fur Co

 

0:32:58.519,0:33:03.799

um it's it's I just these di bleeding

 

0:33:02.080,0:33:06.600

hearts that want to make these animals

 

0:33:03.799,0:33:08.080

it they give these animals a uh oh

 

0:33:06.600,0:33:09.840

what's it called when you make them into

 

0:33:08.080,0:33:11.360

people when you make an animal into

 

0:33:09.840,0:33:15.000

there's a word for that and I I just

 

0:33:11.360,0:33:18.559

blinked it but humanize them dis Disney

 

0:33:15.000,0:33:19.960

did us no favors with Bambi and Todd my

 

0:33:18.559,0:33:22.559

wife killed Todd the other day did you

 

0:33:19.960,0:33:24.760

see that red fox my wife saw that I saw

 

0:33:22.559,0:33:27.159

that you don't mess with my wife's

 

0:33:24.760,0:33:30.639

chickens she'll shoot you with a shotgun

 

0:33:27.159,0:33:32.679

at 54 yards and that REM I'm not going

 

0:33:30.639,0:33:35.120

to make her mad either I if I'd have

 

0:33:32.679,0:33:36.480

said them females i i she might have

 

0:33:35.120,0:33:37.960

picked that shotgun up that's laying

 

0:33:36.480,0:33:39.880

there by the back door I guarantee you

 

0:33:37.960,0:33:44.000

she still knows where it's

 

0:33:39.880,0:33:45.840

at I I want to ask you about uh about

 

0:33:44.000,0:33:48.159

these sounds a little bit more that you

 

0:33:45.840,0:33:50.799

having success with Al it sounds like

 

0:33:48.159,0:33:52.799

for the for the bulk of the trip you

 

0:33:50.799,0:33:54.480

guys were initially having coyes coming

 

0:33:52.799,0:33:56.080

to prey distress stff you were starting

 

0:33:54.480,0:33:58.200

out with a rabbit you were switching

 

0:33:56.080,0:33:59.919

into a bird s and mixing in some Ravens

 

0:33:58.200,0:34:02.360

I'm sure you was playing magp too cuz I

 

0:33:59.919,0:34:04.480

know you likeed mag Pi you like there

 

0:34:02.360,0:34:06.960

wasn't as many magp around so I stuck to

 

0:34:04.480,0:34:09.119

the rav yeah so you was initially

 

0:34:06.960,0:34:10.800

getting coyotes caught in with this and

 

0:34:09.119,0:34:13.359

you were all were shooting coyotes over

 

0:34:10.800,0:34:14.839

the prey distress type stuff but in the

 

0:34:13.359,0:34:16.520

middle of the stand and towards the end

 

0:34:14.839,0:34:18.919

of the stand you started switching into

 

0:34:16.520,0:34:22.079

some vocal type stuff and you were

 

0:34:18.919,0:34:23.760

getting second thirds and and second

 

0:34:22.079,0:34:27.440

chances at some of these coyotes because

 

0:34:23.760,0:34:29.040

of that it was a split stand it truly

 

0:34:27.440,0:34:30.320

was a split stand and I'll tell you the

 

0:34:29.040,0:34:32.520

other reason I was playing prade

 

0:34:30.320,0:34:35.919

distress up front is I paid the

 

0:34:32.520,0:34:38.800

348 bucks to be able to shoot a bobcat

 

0:34:35.919,0:34:40.599

or a fox right right that came in and I

 

0:34:38.800,0:34:43.679

wanted to shoot a bobcat we had seen

 

0:34:40.599,0:34:47.240

some big bobcats out in this Scruff

 

0:34:43.679,0:34:49.599

country and we never saw a bobcat on but

 

0:34:47.240,0:34:52.280

I really broke the stand into two too

 

0:34:49.599,0:34:54.960

many stands and it was 11 minutes with

 

0:34:52.280,0:34:57.160

one with prey distress 11 to 14 minutes

 

0:34:54.960,0:35:00.160

with prey distress and another 11 10

 

0:34:57.160,0:35:02.680

minutes with vocals and uh I stayed a

 

0:35:00.160,0:35:04.760

little longer than I typically do and I

 

0:35:02.680,0:35:06.560

broke the stand into two stands the

 

0:35:04.760,0:35:09.800

first one was a prey distress stand the

 

0:35:06.560,0:35:11.480

second stand was vocals breeding stands

 

0:35:09.800,0:35:14.839

and it was the first time I've ever

 

0:35:11.480,0:35:17.599

really done that right mentally yep and

 

0:35:14.839,0:35:20.040

I wanna I always want to project a

 

0:35:17.599,0:35:22.000

scenario and you know I usually start

 

0:35:20.040,0:35:24.400

out with C5 young coyot how little be

 

0:35:22.000,0:35:26.880

whimper pup how I just I have really had

 

0:35:24.400,0:35:28.440

dramatic I've played those two house

 

0:35:26.880,0:35:30.960

sitting there 2 minutes in silence and

 

0:35:28.440,0:35:33.680

KY have showed up and then I went

 

0:35:30.960,0:35:36.200

straight into kg Cotton Tail and and

 

0:35:33.680,0:35:37.760

Ravens and then after five six minutes

 

0:35:36.200,0:35:40.400

of that seven minutes of that I'd go to

 

0:35:37.760,0:35:43.440

the Woodpecker and some Ravens and then

 

0:35:40.400,0:35:46.359

I was going to Sister PA how into girl

 

0:35:43.440,0:35:49.480

fight into table scraps into pound town

 

0:35:46.359,0:35:53.560

and Dan Mayhem and I even had one pound

 

0:35:49.480,0:35:55.359

town one coyote I think uh came to pound

 

0:35:53.560,0:35:59.319

town but I hit Vol squeaks and he kind

 

0:35:55.359,0:36:02.640

of finished that way um it's

 

0:35:59.319,0:36:05.119

just it's really become a it's not an

 

0:36:02.640,0:36:06.720

epiphany because everybody's doing the

 

0:36:05.119,0:36:08.400

same thing if you really watch the

 

0:36:06.720,0:36:10.240

videos out there if you really watch

 

0:36:08.400,0:36:12.440

what everyone does we're all playing the

 

0:36:10.240,0:36:13.720

same sounds just in different variations

 

0:36:12.440,0:36:15.960

and I don't care whose sounds you're

 

0:36:13.720,0:36:18.800

playing there's variations of similar

 

0:36:15.960,0:36:21.599

sounds out there but when you can find

 

0:36:18.800,0:36:23.680

that combination that is unlocking

 

0:36:21.599,0:36:26.760

different groups of coyotes on the same

 

0:36:23.680,0:36:29.640

stand man that's really powerful that

 

0:36:26.760,0:36:31.920

tx1000 remote just got real powerful and

 

0:36:29.640,0:36:34.760

that diaphragm helping and all that in

 

0:36:31.920,0:36:37.079

the M it's just bonus yep well you know

 

0:36:34.760,0:36:38.640

you was talking about splitting it up in

 

0:36:37.079,0:36:40.520

kind of two different sections in your

 

0:36:38.640,0:36:42.720

stand you know with the prey and and the

 

0:36:40.520,0:36:44.520

vocals you know I do that a lot and I've

 

0:36:42.720,0:36:46.079

done that for years especially here in

 

0:36:44.520,0:36:48.599

the Midwest because a lot of times the

 

0:36:46.079,0:36:51.160

places we're calling once once late fall

 

0:36:48.599,0:36:53.800

comes in and through the winter like you

 

0:36:51.160,0:36:55.720

said earlier you got Bobcats and fox

 

0:36:53.800,0:36:57.880

Seasons that are in and everybody knows

 

0:36:55.720,0:37:00.280

I love a bobcat and I want to have

 

0:36:57.880,0:37:02.040

chances at those but the thing is when

 

0:37:00.280,0:37:03.680

you start those stands off this time

 

0:37:02.040,0:37:05.240

you're it doesn't hurt a thing to start

 

0:37:03.680,0:37:07.880

off with some prey distress even though

 

0:37:05.240,0:37:09.960

you're got breeding season coyotes on

 

0:37:07.880,0:37:11.880

your mind they still got to eat and when

 

0:37:09.960,0:37:13.599

you're playing these these prey distress

 

0:37:11.880,0:37:15.440

sounds to start your stand you can play

 

0:37:13.599,0:37:16.880

them for two minutes you can play them

 

0:37:15.440,0:37:19.240

for 10 minutes whatever you feel like

 

0:37:16.880,0:37:21.720

you want to do uh you have those chances

 

0:37:19.240,0:37:22.960

that those Bobcats it's laying out there

 

0:37:21.720,0:37:24.359

that you could come in it everybody

 

0:37:22.960,0:37:26.280

would love have a chance at a big old

 

0:37:24.359,0:37:28.240

bobcat that's the reason you bought that

 

0:37:26.280,0:37:30.680

LIC and that's the reason you started

 

0:37:28.240,0:37:32.359

off with those pray distress sounds the

 

0:37:30.680,0:37:34.000

other thing is is you've got those

 

0:37:32.359,0:37:35.839

coyotes that are laid out there that are

 

0:37:34.000,0:37:37.359

hungry and you know if one lady out

 

0:37:35.839,0:37:38.880

there hungry and he hears a rabbit that

 

0:37:37.359,0:37:40.359

he's never heard before he's going to

 

0:37:38.880,0:37:42.000

come in there and eat that rabbit which

 

0:37:40.359,0:37:45.079

might be kg cottonil it might be

 

0:37:42.000,0:37:46.560

lightning Jack uh so you're you're

 

0:37:45.079,0:37:49.280

you're getting you're capitalizing on

 

0:37:46.560,0:37:51.520

those Bobcats those Fox uh those hungry

 

0:37:49.280,0:37:52.960

coyotes but if there's coow laid out

 

0:37:51.520,0:37:54.920

there that's not interested in a pray

 

0:37:52.960,0:37:57.240

distress when you start in with that

 

0:37:54.920,0:37:59.560

breeding type stuff

 

0:37:57.240,0:38:01.200

that just hits on another trigger and if

 

0:37:59.560,0:38:02.599

those kows wouldn't come to pray it's a

 

0:38:01.200,0:38:04.839

pretty good chance you will get them to

 

0:38:02.599,0:38:07.280

those vocals so I think it's a very

 

0:38:04.839,0:38:08.359

solid uh game plan for this time of year

 

0:38:07.280,0:38:10.240

nothing wrong playing a little bit of

 

0:38:08.359,0:38:12.160

prey distress at beginning of your your

 

0:38:10.240,0:38:13.680

set even though you might be thinking

 

0:38:12.160,0:38:16.760

that you're going to play all breeding

 

0:38:13.680,0:38:18.280

type Coy vocal type stuff well and I

 

0:38:16.760,0:38:20.839

also knew that this ground wasn't

 

0:38:18.280,0:38:22.800

getting it wasn't pressured so I think a

 

0:38:20.839,0:38:25.440

lot of areas this time of year pressured

 

0:38:22.800,0:38:28.079

coyotes will avoid rabbit distress yeah

 

0:38:25.440,0:38:29.839

if they've been shot at of that 55 grain

 

0:38:28.079,0:38:31.680

missiles gone by their head a time or

 

0:38:29.839,0:38:35.800

two they're not just going to run into

 

0:38:31.680,0:38:37.400

rabbit because they're and and you know

 

0:38:35.800,0:38:39.200

I've always said there's five reasons if

 

0:38:37.400,0:38:41.000

you come to our seminars me both me and

 

0:38:39.200,0:38:44.119

John have seminars at the Great American

 

0:38:41.000,0:38:45.680

outdoor show coming up um yep what dates

 

0:38:44.119,0:38:47.440

are your what days are you doing

 

0:38:45.680,0:38:49.560

seminars John I think it's Monday

 

0:38:47.440,0:38:53.839

Tuesday and Wednesday the first the you

 

0:38:49.560,0:38:56.160

know it's the show starts on Saturday so

 

0:38:53.839,0:38:59.680

Wednesday I'm Thursday Friday Saturday

 

0:38:56.160,0:39:02.720

of that last week yep I'll be in and and

 

0:38:59.680,0:39:04.640

uh in the there's five reasons and and

 

0:39:02.720,0:39:06.480

you correct me if you have an variation

 

0:39:04.640,0:39:08.720

of this John there's five reasons a ky

 

0:39:06.480,0:39:10.160

will come they're hungry they're going

 

0:39:08.720,0:39:13.079

to come to pray distress because they

 

0:39:10.160,0:39:14.960

want to eat two they're territorial

 

0:39:13.079,0:39:17.079

there a dominant pair will be the most

 

0:39:14.960,0:39:18.839

territorial animals in that area they

 

0:39:17.079,0:39:20.839

will defend their territories right to

 

0:39:18.839,0:39:25.000

the fight to the death sometimes I'm

 

0:39:20.839,0:39:26.160

sure they do um then they're curious uh

 

0:39:25.000,0:39:27.800

they'll hear sounds and they'll be

 

0:39:26.160,0:39:29.800

curious I about it then they're going to

 

0:39:27.800,0:39:31.520

breed they're going to come to breeding

 

0:39:29.800,0:39:32.800

sounds during breeding season and

 

0:39:31.520,0:39:34.160

they're going to defend their areas if

 

0:39:32.800,0:39:35.319

there's other coyotes breeding in there

 

0:39:34.160,0:39:37.440

are they don't want them in their core

 

0:39:35.319,0:39:39.280

home area having pups in where they want

 

0:39:37.440,0:39:40.839

to raise pups and then they're going to

 

0:39:39.280,0:39:41.880

defend their pups they're going to

 

0:39:40.839,0:39:43.400

protect their pups they're going to

 

0:39:41.880,0:39:45.520

raise their pups and that's the the

 

0:39:43.400,0:39:48.480

summertime calling and there's five

 

0:39:45.520,0:39:50.480

that's five cylinders to fire on what I

 

0:39:48.480,0:39:52.880

discovered this week is I was firing on

 

0:39:50.480,0:39:55.560

at least three maybe four of those

 

0:39:52.880,0:39:57.200

cylinders most every stand that I broke

 

0:39:55.560,0:39:59.000

into two parts

 

0:39:57.200,0:40:01.359

and I really think the more cylinders

 

0:39:59.000,0:40:02.800

you can fire on the more powerful that

 

0:40:01.359,0:40:05.359

stand's going to be it's just like an

 

0:40:02.800,0:40:08.880

engine uh a two cylinders is awesome but

 

0:40:05.359,0:40:10.720

four cylinders is better and uh I really

 

0:40:08.880,0:40:12.200

think if you will start you out there

 

0:40:10.720,0:40:14.400

listening if you will start to break

 

0:40:12.200,0:40:15.960

those stands and find those cylinders

 

0:40:14.400,0:40:18.160

you can fire on you're going to put more

 

0:40:15.960,0:40:20.640

fur in the back of that truck no I think

 

0:40:18.160,0:40:23.240

you I think you were nailed it right

 

0:40:20.640,0:40:25.079

there and um he was talking about some

 

0:40:23.240,0:40:26.880

of the pressured Couts and the sound

 

0:40:25.079,0:40:29.280

that you play uh

 

0:40:26.880,0:40:31.560

I think that uh something we should talk

 

0:40:29.280,0:40:34.040

about here what I've seen in Kentucky

 

0:40:31.560,0:40:35.680

over the last week Cody came down and we

 

0:40:34.040,0:40:38.359

tried to film a few stands here we

 

0:40:35.680,0:40:40.400

hooked up with her Stafford Gage bannan

 

0:40:38.359,0:40:44.640

who's about almost two hours away from

 

0:40:40.400,0:40:47.680

me but uh um we had we had some tough

 

0:40:44.640,0:40:51.440

calling it got cold here unseasonably

 

0:40:47.680,0:40:53.400

cold and had some snow and uh we

 

0:40:51.440,0:40:56.480

actually didn't call for the first three

 

0:40:53.400,0:40:58.400

days we never called the first Cy to C

 

0:40:56.480,0:41:00.119

vocals here I'm thinking you had all

 

0:40:58.400,0:41:02.560

this luck with these breeding season

 

0:41:00.119,0:41:05.480

sounds we didn't have the first coyot

 

0:41:02.560,0:41:07.160

come into any type of coyot vocal at all

 

0:41:05.480,0:41:09.440

any of the house any of the breeding

 

0:41:07.160,0:41:11.760

season stuff no pups no fights no

 

0:41:09.440,0:41:14.480

nothing but what we were calling them in

 

0:41:11.760,0:41:16.119

on was rabbit and we were calling some

 

0:41:14.480,0:41:18.200

areas that were pressured our night

 

0:41:16.119,0:41:20.760

season is in in here Kentucky and once

 

0:41:18.200,0:41:23.079

night season hits you've got coyotes

 

0:41:20.760,0:41:25.680

it's hearing sound ining the day at

 

0:41:23.079,0:41:31.760

night you know they're getting hammered

 

0:41:25.680,0:41:34.160

but what 247 247 but what we did every

 

0:41:31.760,0:41:36.560

Coy that we called in came to a rabbit

 

0:41:34.160,0:41:39.160

distress but they came to a rabbit

 

0:41:36.560,0:41:42.400

distress that they have never heard

 

0:41:39.160,0:41:45.839

before in their lives so what I'm

 

0:41:42.400,0:41:47.000

getting at is mfk had this new sound

 

0:41:45.839,0:41:49.520

release we've got them on the

 

0:41:47.000,0:41:52.440

gofoxpro.com website and you can also

 

0:41:49.520,0:41:54.960

find them on mk's website but he just

 

0:41:52.440,0:41:56.839

released two new rabbits as well one of

 

0:41:54.960,0:41:59.800

them is called ctail

 

0:41:56.839,0:42:01.440

sauce and I really love the sound of

 

0:41:59.800,0:42:03.760

that rabbit and I said man I think this

 

0:42:01.440,0:42:05.920

is going to this is going to be a a good

 

0:42:03.760,0:42:08.359

one it's got some natural breaks in it

 

0:42:05.920,0:42:11.880

and stuff that I think Predators like

 

0:42:08.359,0:42:13.560

that adds realism to it and I said yep I

 

0:42:11.880,0:42:15.119

said we're going to try this you know

 

0:42:13.560,0:42:17.240

coyotes aren't coming good let's try

 

0:42:15.119,0:42:19.079

this new rabbit sound see what happens

 

0:42:17.240,0:42:22.119

guess what we started calling coyotes we

 

0:42:19.079,0:42:25.359

killed some old coyotes uh we had hard

 

0:42:22.119,0:42:27.640

Chargers uh I mean it was the difference

 

0:42:25.359,0:42:29.880

it was a brand new sound file a brand

 

0:42:27.640,0:42:32.720

new I guarantee you you know I burn up

 

0:42:29.880,0:42:34.280

Ki and Mrs mccale I burn them up and so

 

0:42:32.720,0:42:37.160

does everybody else in this area I think

 

0:42:34.280,0:42:39.240

if we played those type sounds on those

 

0:42:37.160,0:42:42.200

stands we' have blanked them but we

 

0:42:39.240,0:42:43.480

played a brand new rabbit yep brand new

 

0:42:42.200,0:42:45.839

rabbit that none of them heard and it

 

0:42:43.480,0:42:47.520

made the difference and we call Couts

 

0:42:45.839,0:42:49.440

and uh so it kind of shows the

 

0:42:47.520,0:42:52.520

differences in two different areas of

 

0:42:49.440,0:42:53.760

the world Al was in New Mexico and he he

 

0:42:52.520,0:42:55.559

was having them come to a little bit of

 

0:42:53.760,0:42:58.200

everything but really saw the breeding

 

0:42:55.559,0:43:00.400

type stuff shine well here the same

 

0:42:58.200,0:43:02.040

exact week same exact days I couldn't

 

0:43:00.400,0:43:03.960

buy one with a breeding type sound

 

0:43:02.040,0:43:05.800

during the daytime here in Kentucky but

 

0:43:03.960,0:43:07.440

I was calling them on that brand new

 

0:43:05.800,0:43:10.240

cocktail sauce from

 

0:43:07.440,0:43:12.440

mfk that's awesome the other thing I

 

0:43:10.240,0:43:14.839

noticed when we were out there John as

 

0:43:12.440,0:43:16.960

long as we had a wind out of the West

 

0:43:14.839,0:43:19.920

out of the Southwest out of the

 

0:43:16.960,0:43:22.280

northwesty I I I got that question for

 

0:43:19.920,0:43:25.079

you I want you to save that for two more

 

0:43:22.280,0:43:26.599

down cuz I got it I got that lined up

 

0:43:25.079,0:43:28.760

one thing I would want you to tell me

 

0:43:26.599,0:43:30.920

about to is a sound that you mentioned

 

0:43:28.760,0:43:32.640

earlier I wrote this down cuz I wanted

 

0:43:30.920,0:43:33.880

to hear your take on this cuz I think

 

0:43:32.640,0:43:38.520

this is probably one of the most

 

0:43:33.880,0:43:42.200

Overlook sounds in um any Library that's

 

0:43:38.520,0:43:44.640

V squeaks um you very rarely hear it

 

0:43:42.200,0:43:47.000

talked about you never see anybody

 

0:43:44.640,0:43:48.520

hardly ever mention it but man that's a

 

0:43:47.000,0:43:50.960

powerful sound it don't really sound

 

0:43:48.520,0:43:54.760

like much but it sure does call coyotes

 

0:43:50.960,0:43:58.839

don't it I can pull up 10 or 12 segments

 

0:43:54.760,0:44:02.040

of video where coyotes are 350 plus

 

0:43:58.839,0:44:05.000

yards away from me and I turn on Vol

 

0:44:02.040,0:44:07.520

squeaks and those coyotes look straight

 

0:44:05.000,0:44:13.160

at the collar and run straight to the

 

0:44:07.520,0:44:15.839

collar from four 350 plus yards and I'm

 

0:44:13.160,0:44:21.000

amazed they can hear it that far yep but

 

0:44:15.839,0:44:23.880

I'm amazed how powerful a 7 ounce V is

 

0:44:21.000,0:44:28.400

to a 30 lb coyote or a 25b coyote it's

 

0:44:23.880,0:44:30.760

an amazing amazing powerful sound and I

 

0:44:28.400,0:44:33.079

this week I would play the rabbit I'd

 

0:44:30.760,0:44:35.880

play the bird I'd go into the sister

 

0:44:33.079,0:44:39.359

pair a girl fight I'd do table scraps

 

0:44:35.880,0:44:42.640

I'd do Pound Town I'd do uh Dan

 

0:44:39.359,0:44:44.800

Mayhem and then I would play Vol squeaks

 

0:44:42.640,0:44:47.640

what what volume do you play that V

 

0:44:44.800,0:44:51.200

squeak sound I play that at 35 so you're

 

0:44:47.640,0:44:52.880

playing loud loud as I can usually the

 

0:44:51.200,0:44:56.040

wind's blowing to some degree in my

 

0:44:52.880,0:44:58.559

country so yeah I want I want it

 

0:44:56.040,0:45:00.240

reverberating out there I tell you what

 

0:44:58.559,0:45:03.920

what I've noticed about when you do turn

 

0:45:00.240,0:45:06.040

that volume up on both squeaks it almost

 

0:45:03.920,0:45:08.680

turns it into a two a different sound it

 

0:45:06.040,0:45:11.640

it almost sounds like a baby Cottontail

 

0:45:08.680,0:45:14.680

type sound to me no it's hyper and in

 

0:45:11.640,0:45:16.960

Canada at the end of or the end of

 

0:45:14.680,0:45:18.359

November I would play all these sounds

 

0:45:16.960,0:45:20.800

and I would turn on Vol squeaks and

 

0:45:18.359,0:45:23.359

coyotes were just showing up yep that we

 

0:45:20.800,0:45:25.040

didn't even know were there yep and then

 

0:45:23.359,0:45:26.640

coyotes would hang up they wouldn't come

 

0:45:25.040,0:45:29.040

and I'd turn on vol squeaks and they'd

 

0:45:26.640,0:45:31.319

come closer and give me that better shot

 

0:45:29.040,0:45:33.680

me and John bear did so well and I there

 

0:45:31.319,0:45:36.319

was four or five of those coyotes we can

 

0:45:33.680,0:45:39.000

add what one of the coyotes that was the

 

0:45:36.319,0:45:41.240

most coolest coyote is he's in these

 

0:45:39.000,0:45:43.440

Cliffs we're we're calling this bottom

 

0:45:41.240,0:45:44.920

and we look across from 300 yards in

 

0:45:43.440,0:45:47.440

these Cliffs there's a coyote right on

 

0:45:44.920,0:45:50.680

top of this hill and he sits down

 

0:45:47.440,0:45:54.240

looking and I'm playing I'm I am Force

 

0:45:50.680,0:45:56.839

feeding him everything on that tx1000 I

 

0:45:54.240,0:45:59.480

hit bull squeaks there that sucker comes

 

0:45:56.839,0:46:01.160

down gets off the skyline down where we

 

0:45:59.480,0:46:04.079

could shoot him and I shot that KY at

 

0:46:01.160,0:46:05.680

180 yards awesome awesome and John bear

 

0:46:04.079,0:46:09.079

was a good man went and got him for me

 

0:46:05.680,0:46:11.599

because I I rolled my ankle and uh poor

 

0:46:09.079,0:46:13.599

John some of the best pictures I've ever

 

0:46:11.599,0:46:16.119

taken on that cell phone of mine was him

 

0:46:13.599,0:46:19.520

dragging that coyote up out of that uh

 

0:46:16.119,0:46:22.000

the hoodo and the you know it looks like

 

0:46:19.520,0:46:23.880

the the Rough Country in South Dakota

 

0:46:22.000,0:46:26.400

but we're up there in Alberta well there

 

0:46:23.880,0:46:28.400

you go folks do not look overover V

 

0:46:26.400,0:46:31.040

squeaks almost everybody has that on

 

0:46:28.400,0:46:32.760

your Fox Pro take advantage of it it it

 

0:46:31.040,0:46:34.800

sound works I've seen it work in every

 

0:46:32.760,0:46:37.160

place I've ever tried to use it now I

 

0:46:34.800,0:46:39.720

want to get this I call it the finisher

 

0:46:37.160,0:46:41.599

The Finisher that that'd be a I've hey

 

0:46:39.720,0:46:43.599

that's a good bobcat sound too I've

 

0:46:41.599,0:46:46.119

called it I finished Bobcats off that

 

0:46:43.599,0:46:48.559

sound yes sir now let's get let's get to

 

0:46:46.119,0:46:50.520

that wind deal is fixing talk about Al

 

0:46:48.559,0:46:52.839

everyone knows the struggles you know we

 

0:46:50.520,0:46:54.760

can face with excessive wins you talked

 

0:46:52.839,0:46:57.280

about that earlier in this podcast with

 

0:46:54.760,0:47:00.440

the high Wis but what about wind

 

0:46:57.280,0:47:03.760

direction I've seen you and I've also

 

0:47:00.440,0:47:06.839

seen others mention that East Winds

 

0:47:03.760,0:47:07.920

steing the coyot movement at times and

 

0:47:06.839,0:47:09.599

then I've got I've got something

 

0:47:07.920,0:47:13.720

interesting to say after you give your

 

0:47:09.599,0:47:15.920

your take on this well and I know I I

 

0:47:13.720,0:47:18.480

know that it's not true everywhere but

 

0:47:15.920,0:47:20.760

in this Western United States it is not

 

0:47:18.480,0:47:22.440

a predominant wind direction right and I

 

0:47:20.760,0:47:24.599

really think it not being a predominant

 

0:47:22.440,0:47:26.920

wind direction when it comes out of the

 

0:47:24.599,0:47:28.720

East I really think it throws those

 

0:47:26.920,0:47:30.520

coyotes off their game now I was

 

0:47:28.720,0:47:33.240

watching a special the other day if a if

 

0:47:30.520,0:47:35.359

a red fox you see the red fox they jump

 

0:47:33.240,0:47:37.559

up in the air and dive into the snow

 

0:47:35.359,0:47:40.240

yeah oh yeah if they are facing any

 

0:47:37.559,0:47:42.240

other direction than True North the

 

0:47:40.240,0:47:44.200

scientist for whatever reason when they

 

0:47:42.240,0:47:46.119

studied these red fox when a red fox

 

0:47:44.200,0:47:49.040

Facing East when a red fox facing west

 

0:47:46.119,0:47:51.160

or facing south he's only about a 20%

 

0:47:49.040,0:47:53.079

success rate diving up and jumping into

 

0:47:51.160,0:47:54.680

the snow after them BS moles mice

 

0:47:53.079,0:47:56.480

whatever's in the snow banks that

 

0:47:54.680,0:47:59.960

they're trying when they're face in True

 

0:47:56.480,0:48:01.640

North they go to almost a 72 to 75%

 

0:47:59.960,0:48:03.800

success rate that's pretty wild I've

 

0:48:01.640,0:48:05.520

never heard of that that's wild so I

 

0:48:03.800,0:48:09.000

mean there's things in these animals we

 

0:48:05.520,0:48:11.520

don't understand you know as far as wind

 

0:48:09.000,0:48:13.559

direction facing certain directions and

 

0:48:11.520,0:48:15.960

I honestly think that East Wind when it

 

0:48:13.559,0:48:19.200

started blowing we rolled we killed four

 

0:48:15.960,0:48:22.040

coyotes by 10 o'clock that's a good day

 

0:48:19.200,0:48:27.119

anywhere oh yeah

 

0:48:22.040,0:48:31.000

and filing and all of a sudden that wind

 

0:48:27.119,0:48:33.480

gushes out of the East and we did not

 

0:48:31.000,0:48:35.880

see another coyote on that day three

 

0:48:33.480,0:48:38.000

well what's so what's so crazy about it

 

0:48:35.880,0:48:41.040

I S you know I talked to you and you

 

0:48:38.000,0:48:43.280

mentioned that to me and like the same

 

0:48:41.040,0:48:46.680

week you know people hunting the same

 

0:48:43.280,0:48:48.440

time period out west in western states

 

0:48:46.680,0:48:49.960

um I seen them mention the same thing

 

0:48:48.440,0:48:51.559

they talking about they having pretty

 

0:48:49.960,0:48:53.440

good hunting and then the wind switched

 

0:48:51.559,0:48:56.520

out of the East and it just died for

 

0:48:53.440,0:48:58.720

them yep and I just think it's because

 

0:48:56.520,0:49:00.640

it throws those coyotes off their game

 

0:48:58.720,0:49:02.799

they're used to approaching those areas

 

0:49:00.640,0:49:04.839

they hunt you know whether it's the

 

0:49:02.799,0:49:06.400

Prairie Dog Den whether it's the rabbits

 

0:49:04.839,0:49:08.920

whether it's the voles the moles

 

0:49:06.400,0:49:12.720

whatever the the kangaroo rats yep I

 

0:49:08.920,0:49:16.079

think they've learned to hunt downwind

 

0:49:12.720,0:49:17.359

you know western wind right Southwest

 

0:49:16.079,0:49:19.280

Northwest doesn't matter it's a

 

0:49:17.359,0:49:21.240

predominant West Wind when that comes

 

0:49:19.280,0:49:23.400

out of the East it completely throws

 

0:49:21.240,0:49:25.359

them off their game they just I think

 

0:49:23.400,0:49:26.040

rather than fight what they don't

 

0:49:25.359,0:49:28.160

understand

 

0:49:26.040,0:49:31.599

they just lay down right and shut her

 

0:49:28.160,0:49:34.200

down and they won't and they know that

 

0:49:31.599,0:49:35.599

anything soundwise you got to be really

 

0:49:34.200,0:49:36.760

close to get them up out of their beds

 

0:49:35.599,0:49:39.079

when they lay down and they're not

 

0:49:36.760,0:49:40.680

hunting well you know that's that's

 

0:49:39.079,0:49:42.920

extremely interesting because I've heard

 

0:49:40.680,0:49:44.599

you say it a few times I've seen Kay

 

0:49:42.920,0:49:47.200

Reed say it multiple times you know when

 

0:49:44.599,0:49:48.680

he was doing that KY today challenge he

 

0:49:47.200,0:49:51.000

mentioned something about struggling

 

0:49:48.680,0:49:53.400

when the wind was out of the East I've

 

0:49:51.000,0:49:56.799

seen a couple other guys mention it as

 

0:49:53.400,0:50:00.280

well but the funny thing is um East

 

0:49:56.799,0:50:02.760

Winds Kansas Kansas and and here in home

 

0:50:00.280,0:50:04.440

one of the crazy things about here is we

 

0:50:02.760,0:50:07.119

rarely get East Wind as well I mean we

 

0:50:04.440,0:50:08.720

get East Winds but seems like right here

 

0:50:07.119,0:50:11.000

most time it's a West Wind it's either

 

0:50:08.720,0:50:13.280

west or south or something in between

 

0:50:11.000,0:50:15.280

you know West Southwest Southwest or

 

0:50:13.280,0:50:16.720

whatever we do get winds out the north

 

0:50:15.280,0:50:19.040

always look forward to the north winds

 

0:50:16.720,0:50:21.119

we always call call good for those but

 

0:50:19.040,0:50:23.680

we do get the East Winds and the

 

0:50:21.119,0:50:25.640

difference for me is we still have

 

0:50:23.680,0:50:27.960

success with the East Winds and it's

 

0:50:25.640,0:50:31.079

actually I think what it what it does

 

0:50:27.960,0:50:34.520

for me Al I think it it keeps me in

 

0:50:31.079,0:50:37.160

fresh year Couts because I've got a set

 

0:50:34.520,0:50:39.559

of s a set of stands that I never call

 

0:50:37.160,0:50:41.559

I've got to have East a little bit of

 

0:50:39.559,0:50:43.040

East in the wind to be able to hunt them

 

0:50:41.559,0:50:45.119

I mean just there's just no way to hunt

 

0:50:43.040,0:50:47.720

them you you guys see the videos you see

 

0:50:45.119,0:50:49.960

how our country is laid out um there's

 

0:50:47.720,0:50:52.319

just certain times certain places you

 

0:50:49.960,0:50:54.760

can't hunt unless you've got that East

 

0:50:52.319,0:50:56.799

in in the wind and the crazy thing is

 

0:50:54.760,0:51:00.680

those are high highly productive stands

 

0:50:56.799,0:51:03.920

but I think what it is uh un unpressured

 

0:51:00.680,0:51:06.440

I'm on Fresh CS I set up close to them

 

0:51:03.920,0:51:08.400

and they come good now if it was a more

 

0:51:06.440,0:51:10.559

situational thing like you guys run into

 

0:51:08.400,0:51:13.079

out west it might be a total different

 

0:51:10.559,0:51:14.640

ball game but I I find that extremely

 

0:51:13.079,0:51:17.079

interesting how it shuts your alls

 

0:51:14.640,0:51:20.559

calling down out there in the west but

 

0:51:17.079,0:51:21.880

here in in here that I still do pretty

 

0:51:20.559,0:51:23.319

good and then another thing we talked

 

0:51:21.880,0:51:26.280

about Kansas when I first started going

 

0:51:23.319,0:51:27.880

to Kansas years and years and years go

 

0:51:26.280,0:51:30.920

it seemed like you always had you know

 

0:51:27.880,0:51:32.559

your north and west and south but some

 

0:51:30.920,0:51:33.960

reason that area that we call you seem

 

0:51:32.559,0:51:35.920

like you run into a East Wind just as

 

0:51:33.960,0:51:37.359

much as you do anything else and and we

 

0:51:35.920,0:51:39.119

always burn them up in that country no

 

0:51:37.359,0:51:40.960

matter what the wind is unless it's

 

0:51:39.119,0:51:44.400

extreme excessive high

 

0:51:40.960,0:51:47.400

winds right and it's just you know when

 

0:51:44.400,0:51:48.799

a guy has a weekend you know I realize

 

0:51:47.400,0:51:50.200

some of you guys are hardworking

 

0:51:48.799,0:51:51.559

Americans you're out there doing your

 

0:51:50.200,0:51:52.839

best and you only get one day to call

 

0:51:51.559,0:51:54.559

and if it's an East Wind you're still

 

0:51:52.839,0:51:56.160

going to call it and God bless you

 

0:51:54.559,0:51:58.920

because you've got to that's your day to

 

0:51:56.160,0:52:02.559

go call coyotes so don't let it deter

 

0:51:58.920,0:52:04.040

you but just know that in my country

 

0:52:02.559,0:52:06.720

it's probably going to cut your numbers

 

0:52:04.040,0:52:08.440

down from a successful day that's a West

 

0:52:06.720,0:52:10.559

wi versus an East wi I really think

 

0:52:08.440,0:52:12.400

it'll cut my day by three quarters and

 

0:52:10.559,0:52:16.200

and it could be it could be like that

 

0:52:12.400,0:52:18.079

here to or anywhere else in the country

 

0:52:16.200,0:52:20.280

U you know there could be something to

 

0:52:18.079,0:52:21.680

that East Wind you know for everybody I

 

0:52:20.280,0:52:23.319

don't know but like I'm saying here it's

 

0:52:21.680,0:52:25.599

just I'm hitting some of those stands

 

0:52:23.319,0:52:28.160

that you know that might not get called

 

0:52:25.599,0:52:29.520

once a year once every two years

 

0:52:28.160,0:52:31.440

something like that so you know like

 

0:52:29.520,0:52:32.960

right now I'd love to have East Twin to

 

0:52:31.440,0:52:34.720

go hunt a couple stanes right down the

 

0:52:32.960,0:52:36.160

road here and I know I'll call it cop

 

0:52:34.720,0:52:37.720

but I can't call it till I get an East

 

0:52:36.160,0:52:39.040

win and I ain't seen an East win in a

 

0:52:37.720,0:52:42.240

long

 

0:52:39.040,0:52:44.000

time well I think it's awesome I I think

 

0:52:42.240,0:52:46.319

what you've done with this podcast John

 

0:52:44.000,0:52:48.640

is is amazing I hope that you people out

 

0:52:46.319,0:52:51.359

there have picked up a nugget that you

 

0:52:48.640,0:52:52.599

can put in that that bag of tricks and

 

0:52:51.359,0:52:54.680

go out there and make you more

 

0:52:52.599,0:52:57.359

successful with the fox Pros I

 

0:52:54.680,0:52:58.960

appreciate you kind words there there Al

 

0:52:57.359,0:53:02.880

uh I do have a couple more questions for

 

0:52:58.960,0:53:05.720

you though let's go what about uh what

 

0:53:02.880,0:53:08.160

do you think what's your opinion on the

 

0:53:05.720,0:53:11.000

effect that the moon phase has on kyot

 

0:53:08.160,0:53:12.640

col you see a lot of people talk about

 

0:53:11.000,0:53:15.319

uh full moons you see the full moon

 

0:53:12.640,0:53:17.119

topic come up a lot uh for daytime and

 

0:53:15.319,0:53:19.520

nighttime hunting you know we're not

 

0:53:17.119,0:53:21.440

biologist by no means uh we're not

 

0:53:19.520,0:53:24.680

trying to act like we are biologists but

 

0:53:21.440,0:53:27.640

we we are outdoorsmen uh we are woodsmen

 

0:53:24.680,0:53:30.640

and we spend a ton a lot of days in the

 

0:53:27.640,0:53:32.760

field time in the field so just from

 

0:53:30.640,0:53:34.799

what you've seen what your past

 

0:53:32.760,0:53:37.040

experiences what do you think about moon

 

0:53:34.799,0:53:40.319

moon phases do you pay much attention to

 

0:53:37.040,0:53:42.400

them or well You' got to you've really

 

0:53:40.319,0:53:45.280

got to and I mean I've kept a journal

 

0:53:42.400,0:53:47.400

since I 16 with elk you know I just put

 

0:53:45.280,0:53:51.640

my knife in number 800 that I've put a

 

0:53:47.400,0:53:55.280

knife in 800 elk now and the full moon

 

0:53:51.640,0:53:57.480

can really be a tricky animal on on all

 

0:53:55.280,0:53:59.040

these animals we hunt whether it's deer

 

0:53:57.480,0:54:00.920

you've you've seen it with your deer

 

0:53:59.040,0:54:02.760

I've seen it with the elk and I know

 

0:54:00.920,0:54:04.480

I've seen it with the coyotes and and

 

0:54:02.760,0:54:07.240

the problem with the world championship

 

0:54:04.480,0:54:09.599

it's always it's always been those 22 24

 

0:54:07.240,0:54:12.839

years we competed every World

 

0:54:09.599,0:54:14.799

Championship um it's always that first

 

0:54:12.839,0:54:18.839

week of December so that moon phase is

 

0:54:14.799,0:54:20.480

always different every year and uh man

 

0:54:18.839,0:54:23.799

there was years that we had to hunt the

 

0:54:20.480,0:54:26.280

full moon and we crushed them I mean we

 

0:54:23.799,0:54:28.680

we just destroyed them and then you know

 

0:54:26.280,0:54:31.880

a few years later we're in a full moon

 

0:54:28.680,0:54:34.720

condition and we cannot buy a coyote and

 

0:54:31.880,0:54:39.359

I looked at the at the the fronts and

 

0:54:34.720,0:54:41.839

the winds and the pressures and they're

 

0:54:39.359,0:54:43.960

very similar to the years we crushed but

 

0:54:41.839,0:54:46.559

yet we failed right and then there was

 

0:54:43.960,0:54:50.040

times I'd have in my book do not go out

 

0:54:46.559,0:54:53.119

on this this this Southeast wind with a

 

0:54:50.040,0:54:55.640

3/4 Moon uh it was terrible and we went

 

0:54:53.119,0:54:58.040

out Southeast wind 3/4 Moon Moon and we

 

0:54:55.640,0:55:00.160

crushed right so there's no what you

 

0:54:58.040,0:55:02.200

would say is there's you feel like

 

0:55:00.160,0:55:04.400

there's times it affects it but you you

 

0:55:02.200,0:55:06.359

can't string anything together that says

 

0:55:04.400,0:55:08.599

that there's any absolutes to John I've

 

0:55:06.359,0:55:10.319

done this my whole adult life and I'm

 

0:55:08.599,0:55:14.160

going to write a hell of a book someday

 

0:55:10.319,0:55:17.319

with you probably I'll read it cannot I

 

0:55:14.160,0:55:19.079

cannot tell you but you know and it's

 

0:55:17.319,0:55:20.720

those guys that night hunt they got to

 

0:55:19.079,0:55:22.280

avoid that full moon because that full

 

0:55:20.720,0:55:24.359

Moon's like daylight they're going to

 

0:55:22.280,0:55:26.359

see you you when you hunt at night with

 

0:55:24.359,0:55:28.799

thermal you better hunt full moon like

 

0:55:26.359,0:55:30.680

it's daylight stands you better hide see

 

0:55:28.799,0:55:32.400

I see you you better stay on the ground

 

0:55:30.680,0:55:34.039

and you better hide because they'll see

 

0:55:32.400,0:55:35.720

you as they're coming in Hell a three

 

0:55:34.039,0:55:37.720

quter Moon they'll see you with thermal

 

0:55:35.720,0:55:40.880

if you're standing out there on tripods

 

0:55:37.720,0:55:42.920

so um let me ask it to you this way

 

0:55:40.880,0:55:46.079

because it sounds like you you've had

 

0:55:42.920,0:55:49.359

success and you have struggled with all

 

0:55:46.079,0:55:51.400

moon phases oh yeah and and all wind

 

0:55:49.359,0:55:54.240

directions except for maybe that East

 

0:55:51.400,0:55:55.640

but uh uh what about let's say you was

 

0:55:54.240,0:55:57.760

planning a trip

 

0:55:55.640,0:56:01.200

like Mike calls you and he says hey I

 

0:55:57.760,0:56:02.680

need you to go somewhere and November

 

0:56:01.200,0:56:05.119

you pick whatever month it is you said

 

0:56:02.680,0:56:06.720

you pick anytime but you know just we

 

0:56:05.119,0:56:08.119

want to make sure it's a good trip so

 

0:56:06.720,0:56:10.039

you're looking at that month like well

 

0:56:08.119,0:56:11.920

I've got a full moon here and I've got

 

0:56:10.039,0:56:14.960

this Moon doing this going the other way

 

0:56:11.920,0:56:17.200

or whatever will you if you're

 

0:56:14.960,0:56:19.000

scheduling a hunt out will you pay

 

0:56:17.200,0:56:22.240

attention to what that moon phase is

 

0:56:19.000,0:56:25.200

just for your confidence I love a sliver

 

0:56:22.240,0:56:26.760

moon to a quarter moon so if you if you

 

0:56:25.200,0:56:28.680

had your choice what to hunt that's what

 

0:56:26.760,0:56:31.240

it'd be yeah no I'm going to go to that

 

0:56:28.680,0:56:33.440

sliver quarter moon because I really

 

0:56:31.240,0:56:35.280

think it's enough light that if they

 

0:56:33.440,0:56:36.960

really want to get up and move at night

 

0:56:35.280,0:56:39.240

but it's not going to be so bright that

 

0:56:36.960,0:56:41.920

they can hunt all night yeah and I

 

0:56:39.240,0:56:44.000

really think if I'm day calling I want

 

0:56:41.920,0:56:45.559

that sliver quarter if I'm night calling

 

0:56:44.000,0:56:49.599

I want that sliver quarter because I

 

0:56:45.559,0:56:53.160

don't want to be seen as much and then I

 

0:56:49.599,0:56:55.799

kind of think I want it uh waxing versus

 

0:56:53.160,0:56:57.720

waning I want it want that full moon

 

0:56:55.799,0:56:59.359

coming because I think those they

 

0:56:57.720,0:57:01.359

they've hit that Dark of the Moon they

 

0:56:59.359,0:57:02.680

haven't been able to hunt much at night

 

0:57:01.359,0:57:06.200

and they're starting to get a little

 

0:57:02.680,0:57:09.599

light and I just see in my journals in

 

0:57:06.200,0:57:12.240

my records that those coyotes are hungry

 

0:57:09.599,0:57:16.319

and starting to become more aggressive

 

0:57:12.240,0:57:18.000

in their in in day and night and I think

 

0:57:16.319,0:57:20.520

I think it kind of stresses them when

 

0:57:18.000,0:57:23.440

it's a dark moon and I've been out in

 

0:57:20.520,0:57:25.720

Dark Moon thermaling and the coyotes

 

0:57:23.440,0:57:27.480

don't move right think they know they're

 

0:57:25.720,0:57:29.440

not going to see anything so these guys

 

0:57:27.480,0:57:31.119

that wait for dark moons to go out at

 

0:57:29.440,0:57:33.599

night you might be shooting yourself in

 

0:57:31.119,0:57:36.119

the foot I think you want to you want

 

0:57:33.599,0:57:38.960

that quarter moon either way waxing

 

0:57:36.119,0:57:42.400

waning but the as it the growing moon

 

0:57:38.960,0:57:45.799

seems to be that's my personal if I had

 

0:57:42.400,0:57:47.559

to choose one Moon if I had to you said

 

0:57:45.799,0:57:49.400

you've got to go kill coyotes on this

 

0:57:47.559,0:57:52.240

Moon day or night what moon is it it's

 

0:57:49.400,0:57:55.000

that sliver to quarter and it's a waxing

 

0:57:52.240,0:57:56.520

it's growing and uh I guarantee all

 

0:57:55.000,0:57:58.960

shoot more coyotes than the waning

 

0:57:56.520,0:58:00.760

quarter to where it's going away okay

 

0:57:58.960,0:58:04.720

good stuff good stuff I got one more

 

0:58:00.760,0:58:07.599

question for you here um what effect do

 

0:58:04.720,0:58:10.400

you think temps have kyot Colin when I

 

0:58:07.599,0:58:12.839

say that I'm talking about like warmer

 

0:58:10.400,0:58:16.480

than warmer than average and colder than

 

0:58:12.839,0:58:19.359

average type stuff yeah I know I mean so

 

0:58:16.480,0:58:21.559

coyotes in Arizona New Mexico uh Old

 

0:58:19.359,0:58:22.839

Mexico 104 degrees temperatures they

 

0:58:21.559,0:58:25.319

still got to they're still going to go

 

0:58:22.839,0:58:28.680

out mostly in in the late stands or

 

0:58:25.319,0:58:30.079

early stands in the morning um my my

 

0:58:28.680,0:58:34.000

temperature up through the Inner

 

0:58:30.079,0:58:37.400

Mountain West Montana Idaho Utah Wyoming

 

0:58:34.000,0:58:38.920

Nevada 66 degrees if it's above 66 your

 

0:58:37.400,0:58:41.319

calling rates will go down you got to be

 

0:58:38.920,0:58:42.880

closer to them if it's below 66 degrees

 

0:58:41.319,0:58:46.039

they'll go all day if it's below 50

 

0:58:42.880,0:58:48.119

degrees they'll go all day easy yeah and

 

0:58:46.039,0:58:50.880

but the problem is if it's in the if

 

0:58:48.119,0:58:53.640

it's in the teens the low temperatures

 

0:58:50.880,0:58:55.720

they may not they may not uncurl that

 

0:58:53.640,0:58:57.240

tail off their face till 10:00 a.m.

 

0:58:55.720,0:59:00.400

right wait for it to warm up a little

 

0:58:57.240,0:59:01.160

bit they are not interested in some of

 

0:59:00.400,0:59:03.640

these

 

0:59:01.160,0:59:05.039

coyotes I've proven It Through The Years

 

0:59:03.640,0:59:06.359

we'll get up there at first light

 

0:59:05.039,0:59:08.400

thinking that first stand of the day is

 

0:59:06.359,0:59:10.839

going to rock and it's just too damn

 

0:59:08.400,0:59:13.319

cold those coyotes know nothing else is

 

0:59:10.839,0:59:14.280

moving in that cold cold cold weather

 

0:59:13.319,0:59:15.799

and they know they're going to be able

 

0:59:14.280,0:59:17.880

to hunt all day and they may be hunted

 

0:59:15.799,0:59:20.160

some of the night they're going to rest

 

0:59:17.880,0:59:22.240

save their energy and about that 10

 

0:59:20.160,0:59:25.240

o'clock they're going to start moving

 

0:59:22.240,0:59:27.640

stretching I see people all the time

 

0:59:25.240,0:59:29.720

especially on social media they'll see

 

0:59:27.640,0:59:31.720

some cold weather coming and that's the

 

0:59:29.720,0:59:34.119

first thing you see oh we're gonna burn

 

0:59:31.720,0:59:36.920

them up come Saturday it's supposed to

 

0:59:34.119,0:59:39.440

drop from 45 down to 15 we're going to

 

0:59:36.920,0:59:41.359

burn them up drop down single digits it

 

0:59:39.440,0:59:44.280

doesn't shocks them it's almost like

 

0:59:41.359,0:59:46.960

it's got to be now say it drops down to

 

0:59:44.280,0:59:47.880

single digits from 40 being mild down to

 

0:59:46.960,0:59:50.640

single

 

0:59:47.880,0:59:52.200

digits like you said it it I've what

 

0:59:50.640,0:59:54.160

I've seen over the years is the same

 

0:59:52.200,0:59:56.319

exact thing it shocks them in that first

 

0:59:54.160,0:59:58.280

day or so so they won't hardly move at

 

0:59:56.319,1:00:01.440

all it's like they're conserving energy

 

0:59:58.280,1:00:04.319

or whatever but after like two or 3 days

 

1:00:01.440,1:00:07.240

of that consecutive Cod temps you'll see

 

1:00:04.319,1:00:09.640

them start moving in that's because

 

1:00:07.240,1:00:12.160

their stomachs are like hey let's go you

 

1:00:09.640,1:00:14.760

gota do something yeah so no and it's

 

1:00:12.160,1:00:17.000

just it it's not rocket science it

 

1:00:14.760,1:00:19.839

really isn't these coyotes they are the

 

1:00:17.000,1:00:22.680

ultimate survivors they are the ultimate

 

1:00:19.839,1:00:25.000

at conserving energy because if they

 

1:00:22.680,1:00:26.960

they go on a Fool's errand and they burn

 

1:00:25.000,1:00:29.880

energy up and then they can't replenish

 

1:00:26.960,1:00:31.720

it it could cost them their lives yeah

 

1:00:29.880,1:00:34.599

and and so I really think you need to

 

1:00:31.720,1:00:37.079

re-evaluate that hunting him in Alberta

 

1:00:34.599,1:00:39.720

in it was minus 20 when we got out of

 

1:00:37.079,1:00:42.960

the truck and it had been that way for a

 

1:00:39.720,1:00:45.240

week yeah and those coyotes were up and

 

1:00:42.960,1:00:47.079

Hunt they had to eat to survive you know

 

1:00:45.240,1:00:49.680

like you know that that's the difference

 

1:00:47.079,1:00:51.440

too all areas of the country is

 

1:00:49.680,1:00:53.880

different so like when you do get up in

 

1:00:51.440,1:00:55.480

those northern states and up in Canada

 

1:00:53.880,1:00:56.880

man they're used to to the code I mean

 

1:00:55.480,1:00:59.520

you know what I mean they you know I'm

 

1:00:56.880,1:01:01.799

talking about like unseasonably warmer

 

1:00:59.520,1:01:03.520

than average and unseasonably colder

 

1:01:01.799,1:01:05.880

than average for whatever reasion it is

 

1:01:03.520,1:01:07.760

you can see issues you know I've called

 

1:01:05.880,1:01:10.160

even right here at home I've called

 

1:01:07.760,1:01:13.319

coyotes and triple digit temps and I've

 

1:01:10.160,1:01:15.480

called kyot and negative you know below

 

1:01:13.319,1:01:17.240

zero type temps so you can call them and

 

1:01:15.480,1:01:19.160

everything but I've always told people

 

1:01:17.240,1:01:21.920

hey you know they'll see at code stuff

 

1:01:19.160,1:01:25.599

coming and get excited hey yeah give me

 

1:01:21.920,1:01:28.799

45 to 55 Degree Days

 

1:01:25.599,1:01:30.079

and I'll I guarantee I kill more KY

 

1:01:28.799,1:01:31.240

they're more comfortable themselves I

 

1:01:30.079,1:01:32.799

mean you'll just you know that's just

 

1:01:31.240,1:01:35.000

how it is what I've always seen give me

 

1:01:32.799,1:01:37.440

those mild temps and I'm gonna do a lot

 

1:01:35.000,1:01:40.480

better and hey this is the fox Pro

 

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1:02:04.039,1:02:08.839

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1:02:06.599,1:02:11.079

so glad when they brought you on John

 

1:02:08.839,1:02:13.720

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1:02:35.559,1:02:38.599

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1:02:36.960,1:02:40.520

hit the nail right on the head with that

 

1:02:38.599,1:02:42.760

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