The FOXPRO Podcast

Ep. 56: Hunting Suppressed with Diligent Defense Company

Episode Summary

Jon Collins from FOXPRO and Brandon Maxwell, Co-Owner of Diligent Defense Company, discuss the advantages of using suppressors for coyote hunting.

Episode Transcription

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welcome to the fox Pro podcast brought

 

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to you by Fox Pro game calls welcome to

 

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another episode of the fox Pro podcast

 

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today we're discussing the benefits of

 

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running suppressed for Coy hunting Our

 

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Guest is a co-owner of diligent defense

 

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Brandon Maxwell what's going on Brandon

 

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you doing all right buddy oh yeah

 

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staying pretty busy John how are you oh

 

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same same here here kind finally got

 

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rolled into SE September and time to

 

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start pouring it to the coyotes a little

 

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bit heavier but uh kind of the allergies

 

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my allergies are pouring it to me I

 

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Ragweed here in Kentucky is absolutely

 

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horrible right now and Ragweed and John

 

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do not mix so I am dealing with that so

 

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if I sound a little little off to

 

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everybody that's what the deal is plus

 

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I've got a a 15-year-old old Mama healer

 

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dog laying here at my feet that I cannot

 

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get rid of today for some reason she's

 

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down here p like a hyena for some reason

 

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so if y'all hear that you know what it

 

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is but doing pretty good doing pretty

 

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good yeah I'm just getting over a cold

 

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myself I've been coughing my head off

 

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and not sleeping good but uh these cold

 

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mornings got my edch going so I'm ready

 

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to start really ready to start killing

 

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things maybe put away the fishing poles

 

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right yeah it uh little bit cooler

 

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weather over the last few days here too

 

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had some some days down in the 50s and

 

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stuff like that and you know I'm a deer

 

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hunter too so kind of have my neck

 

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swelling up a little bit feel like I

 

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need get in a tree stand somewhere to

 

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see if I can't shoot me a buck but

 

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definitely got coyot on the M on the

 

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mind um I don't know if you saw it or

 

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not but they're just uh a couple weeks

 

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ago and I've got to brag a little bit

 

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guys it's first time I ever done this on

 

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film so I'm going to brag about it

 

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Brandon I killed a quint tupple the

 

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other day that's five cows it's pretty

 

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awesome man I only I think I only seen

 

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four on film though the was man I tell

 

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you what there all F all you are you are

 

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exactly right all five coyotes made it

 

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on film but only four kill shots man I'm

 

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I messed up it was actually the second

 

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kill shot that I missed I film The coyot

 

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come out and we trimmed it up a little

 

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bit for the video but the second coyot

 

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come out and I zoomed in there on it and

 

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I was self filming so when I left the

 

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camera to come back to the rifle my hand

 

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ra I I run a remote that's down on the

 

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handle for my tripod that can controls

 

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everything on the camera and when I come

 

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come from the tripod to the gun my hand

 

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R across the record button and cut it

 

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off like 3 seconds before the shot so

 

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yeah I have no idea how you do what you

 

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do I struggle to get them on film at

 

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night when the button on my rifle so I

 

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was just giving you a hard time about

 

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that so filming in the daytime's got to

 

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be uh yeah I doubt I could do it hey

 

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I've got to give a lot of credits to

 

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credit to the coyotes because they they

 

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played into my hand perfectly you know

 

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it's the coyes have got to read the

 

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script for all that to work out like it

 

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needs to and of course I did I did mess

 

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up mess up on a second K but but the

 

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good thing is I got three more chances

 

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after that to redeem myself and made

 

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good on all those

 

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so nice well Brandon if you're ready to

 

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get right into this I think we should

 

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and guys and you know we're going talk

 

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about running suppressors you know for

 

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Coy hunting the benefits of that and

 

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then we're going to talk about some of

 

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the diligent defense models later on in

 

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the podcast but guys I got to tell you

 

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in my opinion Brandon is the is the

 

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perfect guest for this podcast two huge

 

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reasons uh one Brandon designs and

 

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builds suppressors himself uh number two

 

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Brandon is also a Coy Hunter he's just

 

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like us he loves shooting cows so who

 

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who better to have on here so let's get

 

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right to it Brandon um in my opinion the

 

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number one benefit of running running

 

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suppressed is for our hearing hearing

 

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protection what do you think about

 

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that uh yeah absolutely that's a very

 

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important part um I guess if you get

 

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used to listening unsuppressed it is

 

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what it is but the second you start

 

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shooting it you realize how silly it is

 

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to not use it you know what I mean it's

 

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uh y damaging every time you pull the

 

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trigger without for sure I don't think

 

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I've ever um saw where uh somebody tried

 

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a suppressor like shot a suppressor

 

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after they've you know spent their whole

 

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life you know booming rifles and

 

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shotguns and whatever pistols and stuff

 

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down range uh have ever turned around

 

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look said man I don't like that you know

 

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everybody seems to love uh you know

 

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instantly fall in love with it the the

 

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first shot they shoot

 

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suppressed yeah I'm I guess five plus

 

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years into

 

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making silencers and I still get just as

 

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excited to hand people a gun that have

 

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never shot suppressed and just see their

 

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facial expression y the concussion The

 

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Recoil the sound just everything about

 

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it more pleasant um tell us about uh the

 

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sound rating on on your on some of your

 

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suppressors I know you do have a model

 

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that uh is supposed to be what quietest

 

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at the ear out of a was it a 308 I think

 

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how it tell us about how they rate those

 

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and and and what the rating is so this

 

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is a very sticky area um as far as sound

 

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suppression goes um there's two big

 

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pushes out there in the silencer World a

 

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lot of people look at Peak

 

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decibel um Peak decb are easily

 

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recordable and uh if you have the same

 

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units the machines the the pulse sound

 

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meters everybody can kind of test on par

 

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uh then there's another company that's

 

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very popular called science and that's

 

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what you were referring to yep um we got

 

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beat out by a company called cat I

 

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believe it's surpressor is much bigger

 

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but we were the quietest at Shooters

 

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year for a couple years there I believe

 

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and that was on our long uh 30 calam yep

 

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that was tested yep um as far as size

 

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and weight goes we are still top-notch

 

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stuff um and in all reality the top five

 

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suppressors to the human year pretty

 

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much sound the same so you're kind of to

 

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me weight price things like that kind of

 

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play a heavier role the top five cans

 

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are all good cans you know what I mean

 

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oh definitely because you know when you

 

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get talking about some of these

 

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suppressors that are super super super

 

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quiet um a lot of times they are they're

 

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bigger you know they're you know bigger

 

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around longer and can usually means more

 

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weight right and that's one thing I love

 

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about the suppressors I'm shooting now

 

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from diligent defense is they're they're

 

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super light they're easy to handle on a

 

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rifle uh and they're super quiet perfect

 

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for hunting I think they're the perfect

 

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hunting suppressor so um you know I say

 

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we move right on to the to the to the

 

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next benefit if if you're ready um I

 

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guess another benefit to shooting

 

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suppressed is is the reduced recoil you

 

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just mentioned that there just a minute

 

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ago um how does that even work Brandon

 

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and how much recoil reduction can you

 

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expect so this is again um I don't know

 

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how deep in the bushes many people have

 

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went but a silencer changes The Recoil

 

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impulse to me I just say it's a it's a

 

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50% reduction I mean you can go from not

 

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watching impact shots at 150 yards to

 

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watching impact shots at 150 yard with a

 

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308 you know what I mean yeah yeah um

 

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but to say that it's 50% I don't know

 

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that I I believe it changes the impulse

 

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from a sharp basically like a punch to

 

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more of a push yes you know what I mean

 

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yes I I totally agree with that yeah and

 

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that's just kind of how the silencer

 

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works it slows down it traps and slows

 

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down the gases and uh basically it just

 

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changes how the gun feels when you shoot

 

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it and um in addition to that you're not

 

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getting the concussion in the face which

 

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causes more flinching everything about

 

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it just more pleasant

 

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yeah and that's um you know I know that

 

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depends on the rifle that you're

 

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shooting a lot I'm sure different

 

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calibers are different there different

 

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barrel lengths and if you're shooting

 

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you know hot ammo versus you know

 

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whatever I know all that stuff play

 

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plays a role but uh there is you know

 

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I've got here over the last several

 

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months um well ever since

 

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spring I had never shot off a tripod in

 

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my life I'd always used you know

 

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sticks bods that type of stuff and you

 

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know you always got a little bit of

 

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movement there so uh I did like reduced

 

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recoil uh and and and like what you said

 

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earlier like seeing impact shots seeing

 

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Coes go down in the scope you know with

 

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the shot I was still seeing that but you

 

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know you're moving because you're not

 

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locked down um as tight as you would be

 

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on a tripod well since I started running

 

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a tripod good grief you watched I mean

 

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you're you're watching the coyotes melt

 

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to the ground with the shots you're not

 

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coming off of them right you know seeing

 

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that happen in the scope and that is

 

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pretty cool I love

 

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that yeah yeah that's a pretty awesome

 

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thing I've been shooting tripods I

 

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primarily night hunt just because of

 

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kids and schedules and things like that

 

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and I'm in Pennsylvania we don't have

 

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nearly the coyotes lot of guys out west

 

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and maybe you in Kentucky do right uh I

 

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struggle in the day but yeah it is you

 

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could definitely watch the impacts with

 

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the tripods and then in addition to that

 

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with the suppressor hearing the impacts

 

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is also rewarding oh yes for sure I I

 

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tell you a part that that does suck

 

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though is say you miss a c you know

 

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before like if you shooting unsuppressed

 

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and you shooting off your knee or bipod

 

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or sticks or whatever and and you missed

 

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one thing you couldn't hear sometimes

 

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you could hear the bullet in pack but

 

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not as well as you could as suppress

 

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running suppressor um and then plus

 

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you're coming off the animal with the

 

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scope so you got to look out to see if

 

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the Coy's on the ground or if he's

 

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running which which is a horrible

 

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feeling anyway but I tell you what you

 

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know right now like if you're locked in

 

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there and you shoot you watch it KY run

 

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off if you miss now I ain't you know I

 

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think I've missed a couple running shots

 

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on KY with a tripod but I haven't missed

 

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the first kyot uh yet uh shooting off a

 

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tripod but I could see where that'd be

 

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uh kind of nerve-wracking maybe your

 

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heart sink when you see that cow running

 

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through you know way in your scope right

 

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after you shot good grief everybody

 

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hates a Miss but yep you'll know right

 

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away when you miss exactly exactly um

 

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see another another beneficial thing for

 

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suppressors is hunting is you know

 

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hunting partners and uh and land owners

 

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are not here that big hugee booming all

 

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the time you know if you're hunting

 

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close to a a landowner's home where they

 

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may hear you shoot um I know that that

 

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they would much rather hear a instead of

 

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go wow right outside their house I've

 

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heard you you know when I first met you

 

0:11:47.920,0:11:53.320

I heard you call it being civilized and

 

0:11:51.440,0:11:54.760

plus hunting around hunting with hunt

 

0:11:53.320,0:11:57.240

hunting Partners nobody wants to be

 

0:11:54.760,0:12:00.440

hunting with somebody if you're over and

 

0:11:57.240,0:12:02.959

they're over going pow poww wow you know

 

0:12:00.440,0:12:07.079

it don't mix very well so that that's

 

0:12:02.959,0:12:09.680

definitely a huge benefit in in my eyes

 

0:12:07.079,0:12:12.279

yeah where I'm from in my parts we don't

 

0:12:09.680,0:12:14.920

have the tracks of land you guys do we

 

0:12:12.279,0:12:17.480

have a lot of uh 40 and 60 acre honey

 

0:12:14.920,0:12:18.760

holes that people let us hunt yeah and

 

0:12:17.480,0:12:20.240

sometimes you're squeezing in there at

 

0:12:18.760,0:12:23.880

one in the morning having to keep the

 

0:12:20.240,0:12:26.680

call down to keep their dogs you know

 

0:12:23.880,0:12:29.639

not wake their dogs up and then to blow

 

0:12:26.680,0:12:32.839

them out of bed at two in the morning um

 

0:12:29.639,0:12:35.000

supersonic crack is a thing when you uh

 

0:12:32.839,0:12:36.839

when the bullet breaks the sound barrier

 

0:12:35.000,0:12:38.639

if somebody's window is open that sound

 

0:12:36.839,0:12:40.839

could be heard but if their windows are

 

0:12:38.639,0:12:42.600

open and the air conditioner is running

 

0:12:40.839,0:12:45.040

they they don't hear nothing you know

 

0:12:42.600,0:12:47.240

even if they're 100 yards away I've shot

 

0:12:45.040,0:12:49.800

off my porch at 2 o'clock in the morning

 

0:12:47.240,0:12:52.720

and not woke a soul up in my house as

 

0:12:49.800,0:12:55.360

long as you know you're have the M well

 

0:12:52.720,0:12:57.399

pointed uh at the opposite direction and

 

0:12:55.360,0:12:59.839

they can't hear the supersonic crack

 

0:12:57.399,0:13:02.279

right right yeah you know

 

0:12:59.839,0:13:05.360

it's I would think that'd be a a good

 

0:13:02.279,0:13:08.360

way especially for night Hunters um to

 

0:13:05.360,0:13:10.639

lose a piece of property you know you

 

0:13:08.360,0:13:13.079

gain gain access and you go up there and

 

0:13:10.639,0:13:15.399

you're you're banging your rifle and and

 

0:13:13.079,0:13:18.519

waking them up like you said in the we

 

0:13:15.399,0:13:20.120

hours of the morning late at night um I

 

0:13:18.519,0:13:22.160

don't want nobody shooting outside my

 

0:13:20.120,0:13:26.880

house with a big booming gun so I know

 

0:13:22.160,0:13:26.880

land owners don't either so yeah

 

0:13:26.920,0:13:33.160

absolutely another huge Pro to running a

 

0:13:31.360,0:13:35.600

suppressor running a suppress for

 

0:13:33.160,0:13:38.399

predator hunting and you know I get

 

0:13:35.600,0:13:41.240

asked this a lot at um you know in

 

0:13:38.399,0:13:43.360

private messages when we do seminars or

 

0:13:41.240,0:13:45.760

we're at shows whatever you know people

 

0:13:43.360,0:13:48.360

are that aren't used to suppressors you

 

0:13:45.760,0:13:50.000

know don't have one um they're always

 

0:13:48.360,0:13:52.839

asking me if it helps me pick up

 

0:13:50.000,0:13:54.880

multiples and uh I think it's definitely

 

0:13:52.839,0:13:57.959

helps the possibility of picking up

 

0:13:54.880,0:14:02.320

multiples on a single stand of kyot fox

 

0:13:57.959,0:14:04.360

or bobcat I I you know put it this way

 

0:14:02.320,0:14:07.120

back years ago before I was before I

 

0:14:04.360,0:14:09.519

ever ran a suppressor um I was still

 

0:14:07.120,0:14:12.600

killing doubles and triples and stuff

 

0:14:09.519,0:14:14.920

like that um but there's not a doubt in

 

0:14:12.600,0:14:17.600

my mind that there has been situations

 

0:14:14.920,0:14:20.680

where a suppressor has definitely helped

 

0:14:17.600,0:14:23.360

me pick up a double that I might not

 

0:14:20.680,0:14:27.639

have before uh you know not running

 

0:14:23.360,0:14:30.360

suppress or um your triples this this

 

0:14:27.639,0:14:33.120

Quint Tuple from just a couple weeks

 

0:14:30.360,0:14:34.839

ago I you know I'd say it's a pretty

 

0:14:33.120,0:14:35.839

good possibility that if I wasn't

 

0:14:34.839,0:14:38.199

running

 

0:14:35.839,0:14:39.800

suppressed um that I might not have you

 

0:14:38.199,0:14:41.160

know I might have still killed a double

 

0:14:39.800,0:14:42.959

and possibly a triple but I probably

 

0:14:41.160,0:14:44.440

wouldn't have killed five you know I

 

0:14:42.959,0:14:45.639

mean it's possible but you know it's

 

0:14:44.440,0:14:48.800

it's one of those things it's hard to

 

0:14:45.639,0:14:50.880

say yes or no but you know the POS it's

 

0:14:48.800,0:14:52.600

got to help those possibilities out just

 

0:14:50.880,0:14:56.480

because you're quieter in the

 

0:14:52.600,0:14:58.240

field yes absolutely I um I know this

 

0:14:56.480,0:15:01.160

firsthand I don't recommend it but

 

0:14:58.240,0:15:03.639

there's been times where I've stood down

 

0:15:01.160,0:15:07.000

range and I'll Stand Up yard from the

 

0:15:03.639,0:15:08.880

target you know 50 75 yards where

 

0:15:07.000,0:15:10.440

there's a hill where it's safe but have

 

0:15:08.880,0:15:13.040

people shoot targets and you can't

 

0:15:10.440,0:15:14.680

differentiate really where the the sound

 

0:15:13.040,0:15:16.920

is coming from there's sound but you

 

0:15:14.680,0:15:19.240

don't know you know what I mean it's I

 

0:15:16.920,0:15:21.079

would guess early on uh when you were

 

0:15:19.240,0:15:22.759

shooting unsuppressed your running

 

0:15:21.079,0:15:25.480

coyotes were running directly away from

 

0:15:22.759,0:15:27.560

you it seems like now when I get Runners

 

0:15:25.480,0:15:29.959

sometimes they're going left to right

 

0:15:27.560,0:15:32.600

sometimes even glance towards me you

 

0:15:29.959,0:15:35.160

know what I mean I see I think it kind

 

0:15:32.600,0:15:37.920

of throws them off you know so you're so

 

0:15:35.160,0:15:41.120

you're saying like down range it's it's

 

0:15:37.920,0:15:44.040

not only quieter but it's hard to

 

0:15:41.120,0:15:45.959

differentiate what direction the shot

 

0:15:44.040,0:15:47.959

you have no idea where it's coming from

 

0:15:45.959,0:15:50.000

it's it's not Hollywood like uh they

 

0:15:47.959,0:15:51.600

make it out to be you know there was a

 

0:15:50.000,0:15:54.560

gun that just shot that just broke the

 

0:15:51.600,0:15:57.720

sound barrier but where it exactly came

 

0:15:54.560,0:15:58.600

from is really hard to tell right and

 

0:15:57.720,0:16:00.680

that was one of the things that

 

0:15:58.600,0:16:04.000

surprised me when I stood down range

 

0:16:00.680,0:16:06.639

before and uh again I don't recommend

 

0:16:04.000,0:16:10.240

that but you're braver me it was pretty

 

0:16:06.639,0:16:12.000

interesting to hear my luck my luck

 

0:16:10.240,0:16:12.880

bullets still go through the dirt get me

 

0:16:12.000,0:16:15.360

or

 

0:16:12.880,0:16:18.000

something yeah I was still in between

 

0:16:15.360,0:16:20.040

but I I I was safely off and there was

 

0:16:18.000,0:16:22.440

enough land you know the the way the

 

0:16:20.040,0:16:24.480

hill was that I wasn't in any danger but

 

0:16:22.440,0:16:25.839

uh it was pretty cool to hear that you

 

0:16:24.480,0:16:28.959

couldn't tell really where it was coming

 

0:16:25.839,0:16:32.160

from which would be beneficial um and

 

0:16:28.959,0:16:34.600

I've seen it deer hunting too um years

 

0:16:32.160,0:16:36.680

past uh when I'm dough hunting and you

 

0:16:34.600,0:16:39.199

got a handful of them out in the field

 

0:16:36.680,0:16:40.959

you shoot one and they all run now when

 

0:16:39.199,0:16:42.519

I go to shoot one they all stand there

 

0:16:40.959,0:16:45.000

and look at me until I get the side by

 

0:16:42.519,0:16:47.440

side out and go grab them right right

 

0:16:45.000,0:16:49.680

yeah it's uh I have noticed that before

 

0:16:47.440,0:16:51.440

what you said about you know couch

 

0:16:49.680,0:16:53.639

running off to the left or right you

 

0:16:51.440,0:16:55.000

know you see them come running in and

 

0:16:53.639,0:16:58.079

you would think you know after you shot

 

0:16:55.000,0:17:00.040

the first one at the second cow or third

 

0:16:58.079,0:17:03.120

would run right back off the way they

 

0:17:00.040,0:17:05.679

came but you're right I have seen that

 

0:17:03.120,0:17:08.439

or they kind of just Trot off to the

 

0:17:05.679,0:17:10.000

left or Trot off to the right and uh and

 

0:17:08.439,0:17:11.919

you get them stopped for another shot

 

0:17:10.000,0:17:14.439

and it always made me think like why

 

0:17:11.919,0:17:15.919

why'd he Go why'd he go that way you

 

0:17:14.439,0:17:17.880

know if it was me I'd have burned off

 

0:17:15.919,0:17:19.919

right where I came from but so I guess

 

0:17:17.880,0:17:22.559

it kind of makes

 

0:17:19.919,0:17:24.760

sense yeah they probably just weren't

 

0:17:22.559,0:17:26.319

sure they didn't like something but they

 

0:17:24.760,0:17:28.039

weren't sure where it was coming from

 

0:17:26.319,0:17:30.000

and they're just getting out of there

 

0:17:28.039,0:17:33.600

I'll tell you something else that that I

 

0:17:30.000,0:17:35.600

have done that I never did before

 

0:17:33.600,0:17:37.880

without a suppressor you know shooting

 

0:17:35.600,0:17:40.960

unsuppressed I never saw this and I've

 

0:17:37.880,0:17:44.480

seen this a couple times with coyotes

 

0:17:40.960,0:17:47.480

I've called in a pair of coyotes

 

0:17:44.480,0:17:49.080

on probably maybe three or four

 

0:17:47.480,0:17:51.400

different occasions I know I've done it

 

0:17:49.080,0:17:53.520

on film a couple times where you had a

 

0:17:51.400,0:17:56.280

pair of coyotes come in and they stop

 

0:17:53.520,0:17:58.280

out there with like within five steps of

 

0:17:56.280,0:18:00.080

each other 10 steps or whatever you get

 

0:17:58.280,0:18:02.559

them stopped and you shoot that first

 

0:18:00.080,0:18:04.960

Coy and the second Coy never even

 

0:18:02.559,0:18:07.360

flinches never runs he just looks at his

 

0:18:04.960,0:18:08.799

buddy laying on the ground like you know

 

0:18:07.360,0:18:10.840

George what the hell happened why are

 

0:18:08.799,0:18:12.880

you laying on the ground type thing and

 

0:18:10.840,0:18:14.640

you're able to shoot both coyes without

 

0:18:12.880,0:18:17.360

without the second one running off I've

 

0:18:14.640,0:18:20.840

actually done that on film before and I

 

0:18:17.360,0:18:22.840

know I had never seen that uh when I

 

0:18:20.840,0:18:24.559

when I W you know was running un

 

0:18:22.840,0:18:26.320

unsuppressed with the big booms you

 

0:18:24.559,0:18:28.320

always had the second and third C

 

0:18:26.320,0:18:29.720

running off but I have just a few

 

0:18:28.320,0:18:32.120

occasions

 

0:18:29.720,0:18:34.440

coyot close together shoot one of them

 

0:18:32.120,0:18:37.159

the first one drops and the second one

 

0:18:34.440,0:18:39.559

just just stands there you know I don't

 

0:18:37.159,0:18:41.400

think you'll ever see that U shooting a

 

0:18:39.559,0:18:45.679

big booming

 

0:18:41.400,0:18:48.480

rifle yeah probably so my um my

 

0:18:45.679,0:18:50.600

experience hunting kot's unsuppressed is

 

0:18:48.480,0:18:52.600

minimal To None I've only ever shot him

 

0:18:50.600,0:18:56.440

in deer season by accident you know

 

0:18:52.600,0:18:57.919

right right uh early on but um yeah I've

 

0:18:56.440,0:19:00.400

done everything suppressed since so I

 

0:18:57.919,0:19:01.880

can't compare against much I tell you

 

0:19:00.400,0:19:06.440

another thing that and I've only seen

 

0:19:01.880,0:19:08.720

this once but uh and no I'm not the one

 

0:19:06.440,0:19:10.440

that missed it was it was somebody else

 

0:19:08.720,0:19:13.960

and I ain't going to call them out but

 

0:19:10.440,0:19:15.960

we called a bobcat out and got down

 

0:19:13.960,0:19:17.679

there and sat sat right down on its back

 

0:19:15.960,0:19:19.200

end was watching the call and I told him

 

0:19:17.679,0:19:23.120

said just go ahead and go ahead and

 

0:19:19.200,0:19:24.880

shoot it kill it they shoot and Miss

 

0:19:23.120,0:19:26.720

shoot right over top of his cat shoot

 

0:19:24.880,0:19:30.600

like right between its ears the cat

 

0:19:26.720,0:19:33.240

never flinches now I don't give Bobcats

 

0:19:30.600,0:19:35.799

no huge amount of credit for their

 

0:19:33.240,0:19:38.120

intelligence um but he was able to Rack

 

0:19:35.799,0:19:40.960

another shell in there and and shoot for

 

0:19:38.120,0:19:42.480

the second time and killed the Bobcat um

 

0:19:40.960,0:19:43.679

but as another thing I don't know if

 

0:19:42.480,0:19:46.000

that cat would have just set there with

 

0:19:43.679,0:19:47.880

a big booming rifle I I would have think

 

0:19:46.000,0:19:52.240

that surely it would have ran off but I

 

0:19:47.880,0:19:54.559

think that that afforded um you know a

 

0:19:52.240,0:19:56.559

second shot on that Bobcat after the

 

0:19:54.559,0:19:59.679

Miss running

 

0:19:56.559,0:20:02.520

suppressed yeah I would say so for

 

0:19:59.679,0:20:04.960

sure do you have anything you'd like to

 

0:20:02.520,0:20:07.720

add that you think is a benefit to

 

0:20:04.960,0:20:13.280

running suppressed

 

0:20:07.720,0:20:15.799

Brandon um as far as uh I mean I think

 

0:20:13.280,0:20:17.760

we touched on about everything the one

 

0:20:15.799,0:20:19.760

thing I will say and a lot of guys just

 

0:20:17.760,0:20:22.039

say they want as quiet as possible quiet

 

0:20:19.760,0:20:24.360

as possible and that is not what we

 

0:20:22.039,0:20:26.440

recommend um we always recommend our

 

0:20:24.360,0:20:28.799

Short Line of suppressors for

 

0:20:26.440,0:20:31.919

hunters um getting in and out of your

 

0:20:28.799,0:20:34.240

side by side beating it off the door

 

0:20:31.919,0:20:36.640

dragging it through tree limbs trying to

 

0:20:34.240,0:20:38.200

swing inside of a blind there's a

 

0:20:36.640,0:20:41.799

thousand reasons why I could say that a

 

0:20:38.200,0:20:45.760

short one is better right uh if you

 

0:20:41.799,0:20:49.320

shoot your or Enticer LTI versus R

 

0:20:45.760,0:20:51.480

Enticer STI if you shoot them five

 

0:20:49.320,0:20:53.799

seconds apart you're going to have a

 

0:20:51.480,0:20:55.919

hard time saying which one was wish

 

0:20:53.799,0:20:58.760

right you I mean if you if you shoot him

 

0:20:55.919,0:21:00.799

a half a second apart you might pick up

 

0:20:58.760,0:21:03.919

tiny bit but it's unless somebody's

 

0:21:00.799,0:21:05.919

shooting subsonic bullets I say never

 

0:21:03.919,0:21:09.919

run the long cans just because I'm a

 

0:21:05.919,0:21:11.679

Hunter and uh just the the adding that

 

0:21:09.919,0:21:13.840

length you know what I mean I I run

 

0:21:11.679,0:21:16.840

short barrels on pretty much all my

 

0:21:13.840,0:21:19.159

stuff but some of these guys running 22s

 

0:21:16.840,0:21:21.360

24 inch barrels and then you put a 6inch

 

0:21:19.159,0:21:23.720

suppressor on there yeah yeah makes you

 

0:21:21.360,0:21:26.480

got some length out there yes it does

 

0:21:23.720,0:21:29.279

yes it does so I definitely recommend

 

0:21:26.480,0:21:32.640

not buying the 8 inch ones

 

0:21:29.279,0:21:35.080

um but uh if you're shooting a short

 

0:21:32.640,0:21:37.320

barreled subsonic rifle yes by all means

 

0:21:35.080,0:21:39.480

shoot the long cans cuz you can hear the

 

0:21:37.320,0:21:42.640

difference if there's no Super Sonic

 

0:21:39.480,0:21:45.120

crack oh my gosh that reminded me when I

 

0:21:42.640,0:21:46.799

we met you out there ter range back

 

0:21:45.120,0:21:50.919

there a few months

 

0:21:46.799,0:21:53.159

ago and you had this uh lever gun I

 

0:21:50.919,0:21:55.240

think it was a 357 Magnum and I think he

 

0:21:53.159,0:21:57.120

was I don't know they were they were

 

0:21:55.240,0:21:58.960

Subs I don't know if they 38 Special or

 

0:21:57.120,0:22:00.400

whatever you was putting in it but you

 

0:21:58.960,0:22:03.600

handed that I hate to tell this

 

0:22:00.400,0:22:07.880

something Mike but uh you you handed

 

0:22:03.600,0:22:11.520

that rifle to Mike Dylan and uh he he

 

0:22:07.880,0:22:13.120

commenced to fire a shot down range well

 

0:22:11.520,0:22:16.159

heck he turned around was practically

 

0:22:13.120,0:22:18.440

cussing at us he flinched a little bit

 

0:22:16.159,0:22:20.039

shot and turned around and thought we

 

0:22:18.440,0:22:22.000

was playing a joke on him he thought we

 

0:22:20.039,0:22:24.480

handed him an empty rifle he didn't even

 

0:22:22.000,0:22:26.200

think he shot he don't even think a shot

 

0:22:24.480,0:22:27.720

went down range he turned around like

 

0:22:26.200,0:22:29.760

y'all playing a joke on me y'all just

 

0:22:27.720,0:22:31.840

want to see if I'd Flinch he didn't even

 

0:22:29.760,0:22:36.279

know the gun and went off as how quiet

 

0:22:31.840,0:22:39.320

that thing was yep yeah that was a 38

 

0:22:36.279,0:22:40.880

special subsonic round in that gun and

 

0:22:39.320,0:22:43.600

yeah you'll get that a lot they're like

 

0:22:40.880,0:22:46.520

oh the the gun didn't go off or it was a

 

0:22:43.600,0:22:48.880

squib it's like nope it went it went off

 

0:22:46.520,0:22:50.799

it was just quiet it's a super low

 

0:22:48.880,0:22:52.799

pressure realm but man is that fun to

 

0:22:50.799,0:22:54.799

shoot oh my gosh you could hear the

 

0:22:52.799,0:22:55.919

hammer dropping on a thing was louder

 

0:22:54.799,0:22:58.840

than the

 

0:22:55.919,0:23:01.360

report yep yes it was by far and it

 

0:22:58.840,0:23:03.240

bullet hitting the bank of dirt good

 

0:23:01.360,0:23:05.360

grief that that was that was a lot of

 

0:23:03.240,0:23:06.960

fun that day uh well since we're talking

 

0:23:05.360,0:23:09.360

about the suppressors let's go ahead and

 

0:23:06.960,0:23:12.039

and kind of do a a rundown of of your

 

0:23:09.360,0:23:16.520

lineup uh Brandon the diligent defense

 

0:23:12.039,0:23:19.400

suppressors um I I've been running um

 

0:23:16.520,0:23:22.679

the Enticer quite a bit absolutely love

 

0:23:19.400,0:23:25.400

it I've ran several suppressors over the

 

0:23:22.679,0:23:27.760

years and I I have to say I'm not saying

 

0:23:25.400,0:23:29.120

this because Brandon's on here nothing

 

0:23:27.760,0:23:32.039

like that

 

0:23:29.120,0:23:34.559

that Enticer is definitely been my

 

0:23:32.039,0:23:38.000

favorite that I have personally ran in

 

0:23:34.559,0:23:42.360

the field um been running the Enticer

 

0:23:38.000,0:23:44.400

short titanium version um I do know that

 

0:23:42.360,0:23:46.760

Enticer has a few different

 

0:23:44.400,0:23:48.760

configurations Brandon so if you don't

 

0:23:46.760,0:23:50.840

care tell us tell us a little bit about

 

0:23:48.760,0:23:53.159

that suppressor and the configurations

 

0:23:50.840,0:23:56.200

uh that you can get with with that

 

0:23:53.159,0:24:00.880

one so the Enticer series was our first

 

0:23:56.200,0:24:02.919

line we launched uh it handles Magnum

 

0:24:00.880,0:24:06.320

cartridges anything you could throw at

 

0:24:02.919,0:24:09.840

it um we make it in stainless and both

 

0:24:06.320,0:24:12.760

titanium um and we have a short

 

0:24:09.840,0:24:14.799

configuration and a long

 

0:24:12.760,0:24:17.640

configuration got a couple got some

 

0:24:14.799,0:24:20.760

different finishes too right correct

 

0:24:17.640,0:24:23.640

yeah we sell it and the stainless raw

 

0:24:20.760,0:24:26.799

has that gold look to it the titanium

 

0:24:23.640,0:24:28.600

raw is more like a chrome look and uh I

 

0:24:26.799,0:24:30.520

would say just the black cak it's

 

0:24:28.600,0:24:33.760

probably the most popular these days

 

0:24:30.520,0:24:35.760

yeah yeah um when we first started the

 

0:24:33.760,0:24:37.480

uh the raw titanium and the raw

 

0:24:35.760,0:24:39.880

stainless were pretty popular but I

 

0:24:37.480,0:24:41.840

think people especially Hunters you

 

0:24:39.880,0:24:43.480

don't want that shiny stuff going on

 

0:24:41.840,0:24:45.320

they are they are kind of cool looking

 

0:24:43.480,0:24:48.240

but you know if you want be flashy ain't

 

0:24:45.320,0:24:52.679

nothing wrong with that yeah so the

 

0:24:48.240,0:24:54.440

enticers um are a 30 caliber and down um

 

0:24:52.679,0:24:56.679

but and and this is what we always

 

0:24:54.440,0:25:00.600

recommend people you know most hunters

 

0:24:56.679,0:25:04.120

have a 30 cal rifle Andor maybe a 243 or

 

0:25:00.600,0:25:06.760

223 whatever you want uh we recommend

 

0:25:04.120,0:25:08.799

the short titanium cans but you could

 

0:25:06.760,0:25:12.559

optimize the performance by changing out

 

0:25:08.799,0:25:15.039

the flash cap on the front yeah so uh

 

0:25:12.559,0:25:18.039

the one test that sticks out to me is on

 

0:25:15.039,0:25:21.760

a 16inch 223 bolt

 

0:25:18.039,0:25:24.320

rifle with a 30 cal can uh we were

 

0:25:21.760,0:25:25.720

seeing six to9 dcel Improvement

 

0:25:24.320,0:25:27.840

depending the type of round you were

 

0:25:25.720,0:25:30.919

shooting out of that yep so just by

 

0:25:27.840,0:25:32.840

putting that little front cap on um you

 

0:25:30.919,0:25:34.559

were picking up that many decb on the

 

0:25:32.840,0:25:39.640

Enticer series if you wanted to run it

 

0:25:34.559,0:25:41.039

on your 22 250 two 223 22 Arc you know

 

0:25:39.640,0:25:44.000

and that and that is pretty cool because

 

0:25:41.039,0:25:46.320

when I first started started running it

 

0:25:44.000,0:25:49.640

30cal can and I shoot everybody knows I

 

0:25:46.320,0:25:52.279

shoot a 22 250 almost all the time I do

 

0:25:49.640,0:25:54.559

shoot a couple other calibers uh but I

 

0:25:52.279,0:25:57.679

was running the Enticer with the with a

 

0:25:54.559,0:26:03.000

308 cap on it so I was running right to

 

0:25:57.679,0:26:04.640

a 30 caliber hole um when I last saw you

 

0:26:03.000,0:26:08.440

I did take a

 

0:26:04.640,0:26:10.799

224 cap from you and screwed it on into

 

0:26:08.440,0:26:13.600

that thing and that's what I'm doing

 

0:26:10.799,0:26:17.880

running at 30 cal and tyser on a 22250

 

0:26:13.600,0:26:19.720

with a 224 incap and it's I love it I

 

0:26:17.880,0:26:23.399

love it it's

 

0:26:19.720,0:26:24.919

awesome yeah that will outperform most

 

0:26:23.399,0:26:28.520

that well performed the

 

0:26:24.919,0:26:30.120

majority uh of even dedicated 55 six

 

0:26:28.520,0:26:32.039

cans I mean it's just a it's just a

 

0:26:30.120,0:26:33.600

really good option and it's well-rounded

 

0:26:32.039,0:26:35.640

you know you decide you want a deer hunt

 

0:26:33.600,0:26:38.760

you only have one can you can put it on

 

0:26:35.640,0:26:42.279

your 308 or you know whatever you want

 

0:26:38.760,0:26:44.240

yeah I I think with those incaps and you

 

0:26:42.279,0:26:47.200

know you guys have

 

0:26:44.240,0:26:49.120

almost if you if you wanted to you you

 

0:26:47.200,0:26:51.480

you know you've kind of made two two4

 

0:26:49.120,0:26:53.000

cans obsolete with this Enticer and been

 

0:26:51.480,0:26:55.399

able to change incap especially if you

 

0:26:53.000,0:26:59.679

can take that one and it be just as

 

0:26:55.399,0:27:01.799

quiet or quieter as any dedicated 224

 

0:26:59.679,0:27:04.159

can out there and plus you can screw it

 

0:27:01.799,0:27:06.120

off and put it on you 300 Win Mag if you

 

0:27:04.159,0:27:07.679

want to that you cannot do of course

 

0:27:06.120,0:27:10.919

with a 224

 

0:27:07.679,0:27:13.000

suppressor yep exactly you got anything

 

0:27:10.919,0:27:15.720

else you want to say about the Enticer

 

0:27:13.000,0:27:18.679

Enticer series um no that's definitely

 

0:27:15.720,0:27:20.120

our most popular um there's a lot of

 

0:27:18.679,0:27:23.240

people that are just getting into the

 

0:27:20.120,0:27:25.000

silencers I I still think the majority

 

0:27:23.240,0:27:28.640

of general consumers still think

 

0:27:25.000,0:27:31.840

silencers are not legal yeah kind of

 

0:27:28.640,0:27:34.960

blows my mind and uh a lot of people

 

0:27:31.840,0:27:37.559

want a uh a do all solution for their

 

0:27:34.960,0:27:41.840

first suppressor right which brings me

 

0:27:37.559,0:27:44.320

to the DTF series yep uh we kind of made

 

0:27:41.840,0:27:45.360

this can for the 86 blackout when it was

 

0:27:44.320,0:27:48.080

in

 

0:27:45.360,0:27:51.720

development um but we wanted it to be

 

0:27:48.080,0:27:54.240

Magnum rated so your 3 38 laua things

 

0:27:51.720,0:27:56.720

like that those are also 8.6

 

0:27:54.240,0:27:59.000

millimeter um but in addition to that

 

0:27:56.720,0:28:01.399

it's got enough overboard that it'll

 

0:27:59.000,0:28:04.200

handle your 350 Legend which is a

 

0:28:01.399,0:28:05.000

popular hunting yep cartridge in a lot

 

0:28:04.200,0:28:07.360

of

 

0:28:05.000,0:28:08.760

states and you can do the same thing

 

0:28:07.360,0:28:12.120

that we mentioned with the enticers you

 

0:28:08.760,0:28:14.159

can put a 30 cal cap on that and uh I

 

0:28:12.120,0:28:16.000

was just in Wyoming last week at

 

0:28:14.159,0:28:19.919

thunderbeast and we were doing Peak

 

0:28:16.000,0:28:23.360

deciel testing and you only give up just

 

0:28:19.919,0:28:26.840

under two DCB really you could buy the

 

0:28:23.360,0:28:29.600

DTF and put it on a 308 with the 30 cal

 

0:28:26.840,0:28:31.880

cap and give up two DB

 

0:28:29.600,0:28:34.200

and and that's nothing you know that's

 

0:28:31.880,0:28:35.919

that's nothing yes it's minimal it's

 

0:28:34.200,0:28:38.440

it's still outperforming most of them

 

0:28:35.919,0:28:41.600

out there I'm sure uh then you can turn

 

0:28:38.440,0:28:43.720

around and buy a 22 cap so the DTF the

 

0:28:41.600,0:28:47.519

short DTF can would be a really good

 

0:28:43.720,0:28:51.640

option for somebody that wants to be

 

0:28:47.519,0:28:53.720

able to shoot 9mm 350 Legend all the way

 

0:28:51.640,0:28:57.120

down to your

 

0:28:53.720,0:28:59.480

223 um whatever yeah and you said you

 

0:28:57.120,0:29:04.799

can shoot all the way up to 338 laua out

 

0:28:59.480,0:29:07.519

of it yep yep 338 laua I shot a Neil guy

 

0:29:04.799,0:29:08.640

last year with the short STI and it's

 

0:29:07.519,0:29:11.480

very

 

0:29:08.640,0:29:13.039

comfortable hearing wise well see that's

 

0:29:11.480,0:29:14.760

the thing I didn't realize and I don't

 

0:29:13.039,0:29:16.720

know why I didn't realize that but I

 

0:29:14.760,0:29:20.279

never thought of the you know your

 

0:29:16.720,0:29:23.080

bigger boore suppressor that DTF uh

 

0:29:20.279,0:29:25.880

suppressor I never would imagine anybody

 

0:29:23.080,0:29:28.600

the point of shooting it with like a 223

 

0:29:25.880,0:29:29.919

22 250 you know I just want

 

0:29:28.600,0:29:31.080

but you're talking about just losing

 

0:29:29.919,0:29:35.600

just a

 

0:29:31.080,0:29:37.799

couple yep so it's a good option for

 

0:29:35.600,0:29:39.720

people that have you know it's their

 

0:29:37.799,0:29:41.559

first can they don't want to buy five

 

0:29:39.720,0:29:45.320

different suppressors because tax stamps

 

0:29:41.559,0:29:47.679

are not fun to pay for no um it's just a

 

0:29:45.320,0:29:49.799

good allaround everything can you know

 

0:29:47.679,0:29:52.919

what I mean so it's it's it's a nice

 

0:29:49.799,0:29:55.519

option and uh that leaves basically the

 

0:29:52.919,0:29:57.880

wolf Hunter is the only Center fire

 

0:29:55.519,0:30:00.679

cartridge or Center fire cartridge can

 

0:29:57.880,0:30:04.200

that we have left and again this is for

 

0:30:00.679,0:30:06.679

the Die Hard I already have five

 

0:30:04.200,0:30:10.880

suppressors if you want a dedicated 6

 

0:30:06.679,0:30:13.360

millimeter in down can so whether it's

 

0:30:10.880,0:30:17.159

243

 

0:30:13.360,0:30:21.840

uh six Creed six Creed oh yeah the 22

 

0:30:17.159,0:30:25.720

250 guys um but I was trying to think of

 

0:30:21.840,0:30:28.480

um the rock slide guy Ryan Avery Avery

 

0:30:25.720,0:30:30.200

outdoor shoots to six Ultram mag and it

 

0:30:28.480,0:30:31.480

would handle those types of pressures

 

0:30:30.200,0:30:34.320

you know what I mean there's some guys

 

0:30:31.480,0:30:37.519

shooting as super spicy six millimeters

 

0:30:34.320,0:30:40.679

yep I you know I I've U the wolf Hunter

 

0:30:37.519,0:30:43.480

I think is a that's a cool can one thing

 

0:30:40.679,0:30:45.960

I love the name uh I've shot the wolf

 

0:30:43.480,0:30:48.760

Hunter I shot it at the range with you I

 

0:30:45.960,0:30:52.799

have not ran a wolf hunter in the field

 

0:30:48.760,0:30:54.559

yet um but I think you were telling me

 

0:30:52.799,0:30:57.600

that you actually designed the wolf

 

0:30:54.559,0:31:01.919

Hunter for KY Hunter it's like a ky

 

0:30:57.600,0:31:03.960

Hunter design suppressor right yeah yeah

 

0:31:01.919,0:31:06.240

so basically it seems like all Predator

 

0:31:03.960,0:31:08.399

Hunters are shooting 6 millimeter and

 

0:31:06.240,0:31:11.679

under and

 

0:31:08.399,0:31:15.080

basically it depending the

 

0:31:11.679,0:31:17.279

cartridge over the Enticer STI with the

 

0:31:15.080,0:31:19.200

6 millimeter cap and the Wolf Hunter

 

0:31:17.279,0:31:21.720

you're going to pick up two to four DB

 

0:31:19.200,0:31:23.600

it's minimal but it's something right so

 

0:31:21.720,0:31:25.080

for some of those guys that's all they

 

0:31:23.600,0:31:27.960

have and that's all they want to run or

 

0:31:25.080,0:31:30.240

they have multiple cans uh we recommend

 

0:31:27.960,0:31:33.720

and the Wolf Hunter um for those for

 

0:31:30.240,0:31:35.880

those applications that that's one thing

 

0:31:33.720,0:31:37.639

that that you know guys at their

 

0:31:35.880,0:31:41.360

listening that this is one of the

 

0:31:37.639,0:31:43.480

reasons I I'm so in love with diligent

 

0:31:41.360,0:31:45.480

defense you know I've ran other

 

0:31:43.480,0:31:48.519

suppressors I've fooled with other

 

0:31:45.480,0:31:50.799

suppressor companies um I know I don't

 

0:31:48.519,0:31:55.200

know of any suppressor company that's

 

0:31:50.799,0:31:57.399

actually builds a can for cow hunters

 

0:31:55.200,0:32:01.600

everybody you know most of them are into

 

0:31:57.399,0:32:04.919

you know the weekend warrior uh you

 

0:32:01.600,0:32:08.399

know punching paper and ringing steel

 

0:32:04.919,0:32:11.519

and mag dumping 30 round mags out of

 

0:32:08.399,0:32:13.399

some kind of you know short stubby AR

 

0:32:11.519,0:32:15.480

that you would use for home defense and

 

0:32:13.399,0:32:18.559

that type of stuff this can right here

 

0:32:15.480,0:32:20.320

is actually made for us for Coy Hunters

 

0:32:18.559,0:32:22.760

I think that's

 

0:32:20.320,0:32:24.720

awesome yeah yeah I've definitely since

 

0:32:22.760,0:32:27.120

we've started this I've always been into

 

0:32:24.720,0:32:29.760

manufacturing and hunting and that's it

 

0:32:27.120,0:32:31.519

right uh I mean obviously I like guns I

 

0:32:29.760,0:32:34.080

like precision shooting I think long

 

0:32:31.519,0:32:35.639

range stuff's cool but I think most

 

0:32:34.080,0:32:38.399

people can be broke down into three

 

0:32:35.639,0:32:42.360

groups and that's the Tactical yeah

 

0:32:38.399,0:32:44.960

prepper guys which is awesome long PRS

 

0:32:42.360,0:32:47.279

stuff is awesome and there hun yeah you

 

0:32:44.960,0:32:49.799

know that's kind of the three customer

 

0:32:47.279,0:32:51.679

bases that I see yeah and and when I

 

0:32:49.799,0:32:53.880

when I say the weekend warrior tactical

 

0:32:51.679,0:32:55.840

guy I don't mean nothing bad about it

 

0:32:53.880,0:32:58.639

that's just you know and and some of us

 

0:32:55.840,0:33:00.799

Coy Hunters are that guy you know that

 

0:32:58.639,0:33:02.880

does like doing that stuff too but the

 

0:33:00.799,0:33:04.720

thing is you make a suppressor that you

 

0:33:02.880,0:33:07.240

can go do all that you want to do with

 

0:33:04.720,0:33:09.440

it and plus it is actually designed for

 

0:33:07.240,0:33:10.519

a Coy Hunter I just think it's awesome

 

0:33:09.440,0:33:12.200

like I said there's nothing wrong with

 

0:33:10.519,0:33:14.519

that other stuff and I don't I don't

 

0:33:12.200,0:33:16.000

mention it to be negative about it I

 

0:33:14.519,0:33:19.399

just think it's awesome that there's a

 

0:33:16.000,0:33:21.200

suppressor company that puts KY Hunters

 

0:33:19.399,0:33:23.200

first and I think it's

 

0:33:21.200,0:33:25.840

awesome Yep

 

0:33:23.200,0:33:27.639

absolutely he you do you do have is

 

0:33:25.840,0:33:29.720

there anything else on that wolf hunter

 

0:33:27.639,0:33:32.120

that might be different from the other

 

0:33:29.720,0:33:33.639

other cans I know like you run a zilch

 

0:33:32.120,0:33:37.120

mount on that one can you run zilch

 

0:33:33.639,0:33:38.960

mounts on the others far as all of our

 

0:33:37.120,0:33:41.880

all of our welded cans that we've

 

0:33:38.960,0:33:45.600

already covered those are all Hub

 

0:33:41.880,0:33:48.000

mounting uh Hub Mount is something that

 

0:33:45.600,0:33:50.760

was started by silencer Co a long time

 

0:33:48.000,0:33:54.120

ago before that everybody else had their

 

0:33:50.760,0:33:57.919

own proprietary everything and it was a

 

0:33:54.120,0:33:59.320

huge pain in the ass because

 

0:33:57.919,0:34:01.559

everything's expensive you know you got

 

0:33:59.320,0:34:03.600

to give 200 bucks for your tax stamp

 

0:34:01.559,0:34:04.799

silencers aren't cheap and then you got

 

0:34:03.600,0:34:06.440

to turn around and start buying these

 

0:34:04.799,0:34:07.919

different mounting systems most the time

 

0:34:06.440,0:34:10.200

they're out of stock it's just a pain in

 

0:34:07.919,0:34:13.200

the butt so everybody kind of jumped on

 

0:34:10.200,0:34:17.079

board with the silencer Co it's one and

 

0:34:13.200,0:34:19.159

38 24 the slang term for it is Hub yep

 

0:34:17.079,0:34:23.240

and um

 

0:34:19.159,0:34:26.480

rans the Enticer line ships with a 5824

 

0:34:23.240,0:34:29.240

that's your most common 30 cal thread

 

0:34:26.480,0:34:31.839

but you could buy our zil Mount which is

 

0:34:29.240,0:34:33.399

a q pattern muzzle device any Q pattern

 

0:34:31.839,0:34:35.879

muzzle device will go to it it actually

 

0:34:33.399,0:34:38.679

will shorten up your overall assembly by

 

0:34:35.879,0:34:40.960

about 38 of an inch over the direct

 

0:34:38.679,0:34:43.040

thread uh but in addition to that

 

0:34:40.960,0:34:45.320

there's 20 other companies you know if

 

0:34:43.040,0:34:47.440

you want quick disconnect stuff

 

0:34:45.320,0:34:49.000

personally we don't recommend it it adds

 

0:34:47.440,0:34:51.599

a lot of length a lot of weight and a

 

0:34:49.000,0:34:54.639

lot of money yeah I've never been a fan

 

0:34:51.599,0:34:57.000

I've never been a fan of that myself you

 

0:34:54.639,0:34:58.599

know I've never I've never been a fan of

 

0:34:57.000,0:35:01.640

and there's really nothing wrong with it

 

0:34:58.599,0:35:03.440

I've never been a a fan of The Brak the

 

0:35:01.640,0:35:05.200

brakes that you put on your gun and then

 

0:35:03.440,0:35:07.320

you screw your suppressor down over top

 

0:35:05.200,0:35:09.079

of it I just you know cuz a lot of them

 

0:35:07.320,0:35:10.359

you got to time them and all this stuff

 

0:35:09.079,0:35:12.320

I just want to take a suppressor and

 

0:35:10.359,0:35:14.240

screw it on my gun if I want to screw it

 

0:35:12.320,0:35:16.520

off this one just screw it on another

 

0:35:14.240,0:35:19.400

you know that's what I want to do that's

 

0:35:16.520,0:35:21.520

that's the style that I like I prefer

 

0:35:19.400,0:35:25.359

myself yeah that's that that's

 

0:35:21.520,0:35:27.079

personally what I use on 90% of my guns

 

0:35:25.359,0:35:28.200

um the only thing I can say which we are

 

0:35:27.079,0:35:30.359

actually launch

 

0:35:28.200,0:35:31.920

them probably next week we're Heat

 

0:35:30.359,0:35:33.960

Treating them now but we're making some

 

0:35:31.920,0:35:37.960

muzzle devices and a mounting system and

 

0:35:33.960,0:35:40.720

the reason that I do like that system is

 

0:35:37.960,0:35:43.680

uh say you got 10 guns you could buy 10

 

0:35:40.720,0:35:46.000

muzzle devices yep and you locktite the

 

0:35:43.680,0:35:49.359

muzzle device onto your gun you lock typ

 

0:35:46.000,0:35:53.000

the zilch mount into our hand and no

 

0:35:49.359,0:35:54.599

wrenches required you have a taper seal

 

0:35:53.000,0:35:56.480

on that mount and you'll never get it

 

0:35:54.599,0:35:58.240

carbon locked so you go and shoot four

 

0:35:56.480,0:36:00.520

or 500 rounds

 

0:35:58.240,0:36:03.560

so that that is the benefit there is

 

0:36:00.520,0:36:05.640

benefits to it yeah yeah yeah the gun

 

0:36:03.560,0:36:08.760

looks cooler with a muzzle device on it

 

0:36:05.640,0:36:12.319

when the can's not there right right and

 

0:36:08.760,0:36:14.720

you get to uh you get to use your hand

 

0:36:12.319,0:36:15.880

to crank it down and you have the taper

 

0:36:14.720,0:36:19.040

which keeps the carbon out of the

 

0:36:15.880,0:36:21.880

threads yep um if that scenario is

 

0:36:19.040,0:36:24.240

appealing to you by all means do it but

 

0:36:21.880,0:36:28.319

otherwise direct thread's great right

 

0:36:24.240,0:36:32.920

and again I do it just options yeah I I

 

0:36:28.319,0:36:35.920

chase weight so and money our cans as

 

0:36:32.920,0:36:40.359

far as titanium goes I think you'll see

 

0:36:35.920,0:36:43.480

the majority of cans we are 20 plus per

 

0:36:40.359,0:36:46.839

cheaper we are light or lighter than

 

0:36:43.480,0:36:49.400

anybody yeah yeah that's and that's that

 

0:36:46.839,0:36:52.000

is one thing it's huge and I was going

 

0:36:49.400,0:36:53.240

to mention that guys if you're looking

 

0:36:52.000,0:36:56.440

for a

 

0:36:53.240,0:36:58.200

suppressor and and you know don't really

 

0:36:56.440,0:37:00.000

take it I I guess you can call it the

 

0:36:58.200,0:37:03.359

sales pitch you can take it however you

 

0:37:00.000,0:37:05.640

want but these suppressors are extremely

 

0:37:03.359,0:37:08.440

affordable they are

 

0:37:05.640,0:37:11.079

quieter than a lot of suppressors that

 

0:37:08.440,0:37:13.040

cost close to double the money I've I've

 

0:37:11.079,0:37:14.920

had suppressors that's double the money

 

0:37:13.040,0:37:17.200

and I still pick this diligent fence

 

0:37:14.920,0:37:20.319

Enticer over those other suppressors

 

0:37:17.200,0:37:21.920

they're light quiet they just that's

 

0:37:20.319,0:37:23.720

every that's what I look for and a

 

0:37:21.920,0:37:26.000

suppressor for hunting and they're and

 

0:37:23.720,0:37:27.960

they're very very

 

0:37:26.000,0:37:32.079

affordable y'all did a great job with

 

0:37:27.960,0:37:34.359

that Brandon yeah it looks like MSRP on

 

0:37:32.079,0:37:36.560

some of the most popular cans out there

 

0:37:34.359,0:37:40.400

averages like 1300

 

0:37:36.560,0:37:44.119

bucks and uh we're like 850 750

 

0:37:40.400,0:37:47.119

depending which one you want yep and uh

 

0:37:44.119,0:37:49.560

basically it's it's hurting us now but

 

0:37:47.119,0:37:51.160

our business model was to keep

 

0:37:49.560,0:37:54.520

everything in Heth that way we can keep

 

0:37:51.160,0:37:56.920

our cost down um we never dream be busy

 

0:37:54.520,0:37:58.200

enough to be backed up as far as we are

 

0:37:56.920,0:38:00.680

but uh

 

0:37:58.200,0:38:02.599

yeah please be patient and we're we're

 

0:38:00.680,0:38:05.040

making cans every day and chipping cans

 

0:38:02.599,0:38:07.720

every day and um I think keeping

 

0:38:05.040,0:38:09.720

everything in house keeps our quality in

 

0:38:07.720,0:38:13.240

check and uh it's the right thing to do

 

0:38:09.720,0:38:15.319

long term no I I I think that's that's

 

0:38:13.240,0:38:16.839

awesome I think yall doing it just right

 

0:38:15.319,0:38:18.720

you all do have one other suppressor

 

0:38:16.839,0:38:21.599

that I want to talk about and that is

 

0:38:18.720,0:38:25.000

the road Hunter love the model Name by

 

0:38:21.599,0:38:27.599

the way um the road the road Hunter is a

 

0:38:25.000,0:38:28.800

rim fire suppressor super lightweight

 

0:38:27.599,0:38:30.880

actually got one right here played

 

0:38:28.800,0:38:32.560

around with a little bit freaking

 

0:38:30.880,0:38:35.800

awesome

 

0:38:32.560,0:38:37.920

lightweight pretty much perfect size for

 

0:38:35.800,0:38:39.280

any rim fire throw it on a pistol or

 

0:38:37.920,0:38:40.400

whatever you want to talk about the road

 

0:38:39.280,0:38:44.440

Hunter

 

0:38:40.400,0:38:47.640

briefly yeah so um we took our favorite

 

0:38:44.440,0:38:50.560

22 silencer that there was was the dead

 

0:38:47.640,0:38:53.319

air mask I love dead Air Products love

 

0:38:50.560,0:38:56.280

their brand they're great guys and we

 

0:38:53.319,0:38:58.160

basically wanted to tie it or Beat It we

 

0:38:56.280,0:39:02.280

wanted to be lighter

 

0:38:58.160,0:39:05.720

and uh we wanted to be a little cheaper

 

0:39:02.280,0:39:08.040

so uh we took the mask and we based this

 

0:39:05.720,0:39:11.079

whole can around it

 

0:39:08.040,0:39:13.560

size-wise um as far as the name goes

 

0:39:11.079,0:39:16.280

here in Southwest Pennsylvania and I'm

 

0:39:13.560,0:39:17.760

sure many other states growing up a lot

 

0:39:16.280,0:39:19.640

of people like to shoot things out the

 

0:39:17.760,0:39:22.760

window and they were called Road hunters

 

0:39:19.640,0:39:24.960

and it's just funny all it it actually

 

0:39:22.760,0:39:26.960

started as a joke I didn't think the ATF

 

0:39:24.960,0:39:29.920

would let us name a suppressor hat and

 

0:39:26.960,0:39:33.000

they did so we just r with it I like

 

0:39:29.920,0:39:35.079

it's it's awesome I love the little

 

0:39:33.000,0:39:37.920

personality twist that goes into them so

 

0:39:35.079,0:39:40.480

it's that's good stuff yeah we like to

 

0:39:37.920,0:39:42.079

have fun so all 22 suppressors kind of

 

0:39:40.480,0:39:46.800

look the same they're just a little one

 

0:39:42.079,0:39:49.760

inch round you know 5 inch long tubes so

 

0:39:46.800,0:39:51.640

we put a topographical map that we laser

 

0:39:49.760,0:39:57.480

burn on the outside to kind of make it

 

0:39:51.640,0:40:00.960

look a little unique yep um as far as uh

 

0:39:57.480,0:40:03.720

shooting Rim fires they are inherently

 

0:40:00.960,0:40:06.400

filthy so you can tear the can apart

 

0:40:03.720,0:40:10.000

clean the internals uh they're all laser

 

0:40:06.400,0:40:12.920

numbered and they have features to where

 

0:40:10.000,0:40:15.599

you can index to put them back together

 

0:40:12.920,0:40:18.839

easily um it's not just a Rimfire can

 

0:40:15.599,0:40:25.640

either you can shoot the 5 S out of it

 

0:40:18.839,0:40:29.119

uh 17 Hornet 22 Hornets uh what is there

 

0:40:25.640,0:40:33.480

17b there's there's a a lot of different

 

0:40:29.119,0:40:36.520

uh wild cat small cartridge 17 Remington

 

0:40:33.480,0:40:38.599

it'll handle all of those it actually so

 

0:40:36.520,0:40:40.760

it it'll handle it'll handle up to like

 

0:40:38.599,0:40:42.599

a 17 Remington because that's a hot

 

0:40:40.760,0:40:45.200

round that's like that's a 4,000 feet

 

0:40:42.599,0:40:48.680

per second round right there yes it is

 

0:40:45.200,0:40:51.880

so we did a 10 and a half inch

 

0:40:48.680,0:40:54.480

5.56 and we put a road Hunter on it and

 

0:40:51.880,0:40:56.240

let her eat and it handled 45 rounds

 

0:40:54.480,0:41:01.680

before it

 

0:40:56.240,0:41:04.880

exploded what caliber it was a 223 yeah

 

0:41:01.680,0:41:06.960

a 10 and a half inch barrel and again it

 

0:41:04.880,0:41:09.640

is not rated and not recommended for

 

0:41:06.960,0:41:12.119

that but it it took 45 rounds before it

 

0:41:09.640,0:41:14.760

exploded testing purposes you got you

 

0:41:12.119,0:41:17.520

got to do it yeah and 10 and a half

 

0:41:14.760,0:41:20.839

inches is is is the big thing on a

 

0:41:17.520,0:41:23.440

16inch barrel 223 would probably handle

 

0:41:20.839,0:41:26.280

60 rounds but again it's not it's not

 

0:41:23.440,0:41:28.480

rated for that once you get above the

 

0:41:26.280,0:41:30.800

Hornets I would

 

0:41:28.480,0:41:34.079

quit that's pretty impressive so you can

 

0:41:30.800,0:41:36.280

run stuff as as large as like 17

 

0:41:34.079,0:41:38.000

Fireball which is Center fire 17

 

0:41:36.280,0:41:40.839

Remington which is Center fire and

 

0:41:38.000,0:41:44.920

absolutely smoking 22 Hornet and all the

 

0:41:40.839,0:41:48.040

way down to like 22 long rifle and 17 17

 

0:41:44.920,0:41:49.480

HMR and all that type stuff yes but

 

0:41:48.040,0:41:52.720

you're going to get better suppression

 

0:41:49.480,0:41:55.200

if you're a 17 Hornet or 22 Hornet guy I

 

0:41:52.720,0:41:57.319

would maybe lean towards the wolf Hunter

 

0:41:55.200,0:41:59.079

but it definitely wouldn't hurt to throw

 

0:41:57.319,0:42:01.640

Hunter on and run some rounds through it

 

0:41:59.079,0:42:04.440

oh man well it's so it's a little I mean

 

0:42:01.640,0:42:06.599

that's pretty cool that's pretty cool I

 

0:42:04.440,0:42:08.240

didn't realize you could go up uh that

 

0:42:06.599,0:42:09.200

hot out of that suppressor so it's

 

0:42:08.240,0:42:12.040

pretty

 

0:42:09.200,0:42:14.240

impressive yeah yep it'll take it you

 

0:42:12.040,0:42:17.960

just got to watch temperature that's

 

0:42:14.240,0:42:18.960

all well what what is your out of all

 

0:42:17.960,0:42:21.520

the

 

0:42:18.960,0:42:24.640

suppressors that that you

 

0:42:21.520,0:42:26.400

build um what is your favorite like if I

 

0:42:24.640,0:42:28.160

was going to take you on a ky hunt next

 

0:42:26.400,0:42:29.480

week what suppress you bringing if you

 

0:42:28.160,0:42:31.040

if you can only bring one suppressor

 

0:42:29.480,0:42:33.559

which one you screwing on your

 

0:42:31.040,0:42:35.880

gun if somebody had to own one

 

0:42:33.559,0:42:38.520

suppressor and one suppressor only I

 

0:42:35.880,0:42:40.160

would say the Enticer STI all day long

 

0:42:38.520,0:42:43.200

no questions

 

0:42:40.160,0:42:46.319

asked um that's our biggest

 

0:42:43.200,0:42:48.359

seller um and that's the majority of

 

0:42:46.319,0:42:50.280

people most people don't have 350

 

0:42:48.359,0:42:52.960

Legends and things like that if you do

 

0:42:50.280,0:42:55.839

have that I would say the DTF

 

0:42:52.960,0:42:59.680

STI uh and again it's a similar length

 

0:42:55.839,0:43:02.800

similar weight uh but yeah the Enticer

 

0:42:59.680,0:43:03.680

STI is our Flagship for sure so is that

 

0:43:02.800,0:43:06.839

your

 

0:43:03.680,0:43:10.319

favorite yep that's my favorite and um

 

0:43:06.839,0:43:13.359

that's what I recommend to 90% of people

 

0:43:10.319,0:43:15.640

so it's it's an awesome allaround can I

 

0:43:13.359,0:43:19.040

I love it I've got two of them I I love

 

0:43:15.640,0:43:21.280

it great suppressor um you're a CO

 

0:43:19.040,0:43:22.480

Hunter what do you call what do you call

 

0:43:21.280,0:43:24.880

you running right

 

0:43:22.480,0:43:28.400

now what call am I running right now

 

0:43:24.880,0:43:32.640

yeah I am running the X2 for for I guess

 

0:43:28.400,0:43:36.960

probably three years now my man it is my

 

0:43:32.640,0:43:40.960

go-to um I had the hammerjack before

 

0:43:36.960,0:43:43.800

that and then I had some uh the corded

 

0:43:40.960,0:43:45.680

was it Johnny Stewart stuff I I had a

 

0:43:43.800,0:43:49.359

cordless Johnny Stewart and I had a cord

 

0:43:45.680,0:43:53.440

of Johnny Stewart y yeah and then before

 

0:43:49.359,0:43:55.720

that we were stealing my buddies dad's

 

0:43:53.440,0:43:57.640

uh Johnny Stewart that was the all one

 

0:43:55.720,0:44:01.200

unit with the speaker on

 

0:43:57.640,0:44:03.280

right yep yep well we talked about

 

0:44:01.200,0:44:05.680

several different calibers and stuff

 

0:44:03.280,0:44:07.079

here and I I asked you what your

 

0:44:05.680,0:44:09.480

favorite

 

0:44:07.079,0:44:11.559

suppressor uh is and like if I was going

 

0:44:09.480,0:44:14.040

to take you hunting next week which one

 

0:44:11.559,0:44:15.680

you would use well I've got a I've got

 

0:44:14.040,0:44:17.480

another question for you and I don't

 

0:44:15.680,0:44:19.599

know if you was ready for this or not

 

0:44:17.480,0:44:22.920

but you if you listen to the podcast

 

0:44:19.599,0:44:26.200

you've heard this this question asked if

 

0:44:22.920,0:44:29.280

your life depended on it Brandon all

 

0:44:26.200,0:44:33.720

right I take you out somewhere in a

 

0:44:29.280,0:44:37.079

helicopter to some remote region of the

 

0:44:33.720,0:44:40.119

world got coyotes there I'm letting you

 

0:44:37.079,0:44:41.599

take you x24 full of sounds have all the

 

0:44:40.119,0:44:43.440

sounds at your

 

0:44:41.599,0:44:47.319

disposal you can

 

0:44:43.440,0:44:49.440

pick one rifle you get one round to kill

 

0:44:47.319,0:44:52.160

a ky what happens is I'm going to push

 

0:44:49.440,0:44:56.160

you out of that helicopter with a rifle

 

0:44:52.160,0:44:58.760

one cartridge your x24 and a parachute

 

0:44:56.160,0:44:59.880

that's all you got and your job is you

 

0:44:58.760,0:45:02.920

got to get down there and you got to

 

0:44:59.880,0:45:06.280

call up a coyote and take that one

 

0:45:02.920,0:45:08.440

bullet and kill it if you do not kill

 

0:45:06.280,0:45:11.200

that coyote you get to spend the rest of

 

0:45:08.440,0:45:14.839

your life out there in this remote

 

0:45:11.200,0:45:18.280

Wilderness eating grubs pine

 

0:45:14.839,0:45:20.359

needles sap licking sap off trees and

 

0:45:18.280,0:45:22.839

drinking muddy water that's what happens

 

0:45:20.359,0:45:24.760

to rest your life but if you kill that

 

0:45:22.839,0:45:27.000

coyot with that one round I'll come back

 

0:45:24.760,0:45:28.319

in there and save you life and get you

 

0:45:27.000,0:45:31.920

the heck out of there and take you back

 

0:45:28.319,0:45:35.200

to Pennsylvania so what round what

 

0:45:31.920,0:45:37.720

caliber what cartridge what what rifle

 

0:45:35.200,0:45:39.640

are you taking on that hunt to make sure

 

0:45:37.720,0:45:42.160

you kill that

 

0:45:39.640,0:45:44.280

cow well I would take what I've been

 

0:45:42.160,0:45:47.359

shooting I guess for everything for the

 

0:45:44.280,0:45:49.520

last I don't know three four years that

 

0:45:47.359,0:45:51.960

would be my six millimeter

 

0:45:49.520,0:45:55.079

creedmore uh if I was shooting a coyote

 

0:45:51.960,0:45:56.680

I would be running my 75 grain B Maxes

 

0:45:55.079,0:45:57.880

just because they're flatter shooting

 

0:45:56.680,0:46:00.880

yep

 

0:45:57.880,0:46:05.000

um and yeah that's my go-to I like the

 

0:46:00.880,0:46:07.240

fix rifle because it's light um foldings

 

0:46:05.000,0:46:09.760

nice for backpacking

 

0:46:07.240,0:46:11.559

whatever uh Quick Change barrels are

 

0:46:09.760,0:46:14.599

cool on it but the 6 millimeter

 

0:46:11.559,0:46:18.440

creedmore cartridge has been my go-to

 

0:46:14.599,0:46:20.800

for white tail and coyotes and pigs for

 

0:46:18.440,0:46:23.760

the last three four years I think that's

 

0:46:20.800,0:46:25.680

an excellent choice I think that I

 

0:46:23.760,0:46:27.160

should be coming right back in there and

 

0:46:25.680,0:46:29.960

picking you back up and bringing you

 

0:46:27.160,0:46:32.119

back to civilization cuz that round out

 

0:46:29.960,0:46:34.960

of that caliber that cartridge that

 

0:46:32.119,0:46:37.079

whole deal there will handle every coyot

 

0:46:34.960,0:46:40.160

that's ever run run into a call that's

 

0:46:37.079,0:46:42.240

for sure six Mill or sixth Creed I've

 

0:46:40.160,0:46:44.800

got I shoot six Creed some I think it's

 

0:46:42.240,0:46:47.559

I think it's a great option great

 

0:46:44.800,0:46:49.680

choice yeah I've got a barrel sitting

 

0:46:47.559,0:46:52.160

here I'm looking at right now for a 22

 

0:46:49.680,0:46:53.920

Creed that'll Bol onto this gun and I've

 

0:46:52.160,0:46:56.160

got some brass and different things I

 

0:46:53.920,0:46:58.520

just haven't had time but I hear a lot

 

0:46:56.160,0:47:01.079

of positives about the 22 Creed as well

 

0:46:58.520,0:47:03.760

so yeah maybe next year if we talk I'll

 

0:47:01.079,0:47:06.400

let you know how if if my mind has

 

0:47:03.760,0:47:08.520

changed right well I've sh I've shot a

 

0:47:06.400,0:47:09.920

22 Creed some I've actually got two of

 

0:47:08.520,0:47:13.559

them here I haven't shot them in a few

 

0:47:09.920,0:47:15.119

years but they're uh they're they're

 

0:47:13.559,0:47:17.319

definitely fun to shoot they're

 

0:47:15.119,0:47:19.880

definitely a great option for KY Hunters

 

0:47:17.319,0:47:22.640

that's for sure I mean you know you can

 

0:47:19.880,0:47:25.480

shoot those heavier grain bullets you

 

0:47:22.640,0:47:28.079

can take like a 75 grain bullet and

 

0:47:25.480,0:47:30.400

shoot it pretty close to the same speed

 

0:47:28.079,0:47:34.480

as you're shooting a 55 or 60 out of a

 

0:47:30.400,0:47:37.440

22 250 so pretty

 

0:47:34.480,0:47:40.599

impressive I think you'll like

 

0:47:37.440,0:47:43.400

it well Brandon you have anything else

 

0:47:40.599,0:47:45.240

that you would like to uh to talk about

 

0:47:43.400,0:47:47.960

we've been on here for for several

 

0:47:45.240,0:47:51.160

minutes been on here H about 45 minutes

 

0:47:47.960,0:47:52.440

or better um anything else you'd like to

 

0:47:51.160,0:47:54.599

like to talk about anything you'd like

 

0:47:52.440,0:47:58.200

to talk about far as diligent defense

 

0:47:54.599,0:47:59.839

goes or anything I think one of your

 

0:47:58.200,0:48:03.040

other ones is night hunting or day

 

0:47:59.839,0:48:04.559

hunting yeah yeah tell me yeah that's a

 

0:48:03.040,0:48:07.640

great question what

 

0:48:04.559,0:48:11.599

what I love love love watching day

 

0:48:07.640,0:48:13.680

hunting content I grew up watching I

 

0:48:11.599,0:48:16.720

guess it was Big Al back in the early

 

0:48:13.680,0:48:18.720

2000s in high school I was convinced

 

0:48:16.720,0:48:22.079

that it was impossible to kill a daytime

 

0:48:18.720,0:48:23.680

coyote calling in Pennsylvania yep I

 

0:48:22.079,0:48:25.119

mean I know everybody stumbles into them

 

0:48:23.680,0:48:27.800

turkey hunting or deer

 

0:48:25.119,0:48:30.280

hunting uh I still haven't had any luck

 

0:48:27.800,0:48:31.839

daytime hunting them in Pennsylvania but

 

0:48:30.280,0:48:33.400

uh I was going to ask you if you ever

 

0:48:31.839,0:48:37.480

have you ever had any luck daytime

 

0:48:33.400,0:48:40.480

Hunting PA so my very first time in

 

0:48:37.480,0:48:44.359

Texas uh we were down in

 

0:48:40.480,0:48:46.640

Oona and we called all day and called it

 

0:48:44.359,0:48:49.319

nothing but Mustangs so that was about

 

0:48:46.640,0:48:51.839

on track with my daytime hunting y

 

0:48:49.319,0:48:54.680

previously uh Brian Trussell had taken

 

0:48:51.839,0:48:56.280

me out the next year and I smacked one

 

0:48:54.680,0:48:59.200

but that was the only daytime dog we

 

0:48:56.280,0:49:02.480

call but it was around 300 or north of

 

0:48:59.200,0:49:04.599

300 but uh it was just awesome seeing

 

0:49:02.480,0:49:07.040

seeing the color seeing the

 

0:49:04.599,0:49:08.640

Expressions um but up until then I just

 

0:49:07.040,0:49:10.400

never had much luck with it and my

 

0:49:08.640,0:49:13.880

schedule's always been good for night

 

0:49:10.400,0:49:15.680

hunting right right last week or two

 

0:49:13.880,0:49:19.000

weeks ago I guess it's been now I was in

 

0:49:15.680,0:49:22.480

Wyoming with Colton Gillum yep and we we

 

0:49:19.000,0:49:24.559

got into in the daytime there and uh it

 

0:49:22.480,0:49:26.720

changed my it changed my mind it's

 

0:49:24.559,0:49:28.599

definitely awesome I just wish there

 

0:49:26.720,0:49:30.000

there was more dogss in Pennsylvania

 

0:49:28.599,0:49:32.079

well we'll definitely have to get you

 

0:49:30.000,0:49:35.079

out on a trip here sometime maybe this

 

0:49:32.079,0:49:36.200

winter or or next summer next fall

 

0:49:35.079,0:49:38.160

something like that we'll get you

 

0:49:36.200,0:49:40.200

somewhere see if we can't show you some

 

0:49:38.160,0:49:42.280

Daytime coyot right up on top of the fox

 

0:49:40.200,0:49:44.839

pro at a it's one thing when you just

 

0:49:42.280,0:49:46.920

call Coyotes out during the daytime it's

 

0:49:44.839,0:49:49.000

also a totally opposite thing when you

 

0:49:46.920,0:49:52.240

have them hard charging in and running

 

0:49:49.000,0:49:53.480

Plum over top of the call it uh it it's

 

0:49:52.240,0:49:57.359

there's nothing like it gets in your

 

0:49:53.480,0:49:59.680

blood quick that's for sure yeah I yeah

 

0:49:57.359,0:50:01.920

I prefer daytime hunting but I will

 

0:49:59.680,0:50:04.960

still be a nighttime Hunter oh yeah

 

0:50:01.920,0:50:06.720

unless unless I move out west I guess

 

0:50:04.960,0:50:07.839

right right well you know just like we

 

0:50:06.720,0:50:10.280

talked about with a lot of people you

 

0:50:07.839,0:50:12.559

know it it fits night hunting fits

 

0:50:10.280,0:50:15.920

everybody's schedule so well you know

 

0:50:12.559,0:50:17.400

most people that that work uh work of

 

0:50:15.920,0:50:20.040

you know all day then they've got

 

0:50:17.400,0:50:21.880

families to come home to you know it's

 

0:50:20.040,0:50:23.559

hard to it's hard to daytime hunt

 

0:50:21.880,0:50:25.000

because you're either either taking care

 

0:50:23.559,0:50:28.280

of your family spending time with the

 

0:50:25.000,0:50:29.920

family or you're working uh so you know

 

0:50:28.280,0:50:31.400

night time is perfect to get out and go

 

0:50:29.920,0:50:33.200

out for a couple hours few hours

 

0:50:31.400,0:50:35.440

whatever you want to do and still and

 

0:50:33.200,0:50:37.440

still work and spend all the time you

 

0:50:35.440,0:50:39.280

you need to with the family or you know

 

0:50:37.440,0:50:42.000

so it's it's a great option it's great

 

0:50:39.280,0:50:46.520

and plus Coy are pretty active at night

 

0:50:42.000,0:50:49.319

too yes they are EXC night the one thing

 

0:50:46.520,0:50:51.200

I took for granted is how hard it is to

 

0:50:49.319,0:50:51.920

identify and pick up these coyotes in

 

0:50:51.200,0:50:55.680

the

 

0:50:51.920,0:50:57.559

daytime uh these guys especially after s

 

0:50:55.680,0:50:59.440

Brush Country it's it's tough because

 

0:50:57.559,0:51:02.880

they blend in so well out

 

0:50:59.440,0:51:05.359

there yeah there's guys hunting with

 

0:51:02.880,0:51:08.160

Colton and the trussle guys and they

 

0:51:05.359,0:51:09.200

would see him 30 seconds before me while

 

0:51:08.160,0:51:11.640

pointing at them I'm just sitting there

 

0:51:09.200,0:51:14.200

looking I'm like where is there a coyote

 

0:51:11.640,0:51:16.520

y I guess after time you would probably

 

0:51:14.200,0:51:18.119

pick up on it you oh yeah yeah it's just

 

0:51:16.520,0:51:20.280

like anything else the more experience

 

0:51:18.119,0:51:23.000

you have with it more you see run in the

 

0:51:20.280,0:51:24.000

quicker you'll you'll tune in to them

 

0:51:23.000,0:51:27.520

that's for

 

0:51:24.000,0:51:30.480

sure yep yep for sure

 

0:51:27.520,0:51:33.799

well Brandon we uh we appreciate you

 

0:51:30.480,0:51:36.200

coming on here and uh you know yeah

 

0:51:33.799,0:51:37.799

thanks for having me everybody that's in

 

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