In this episode, Jon Collins and Corey Groff discuss using remote presets for coyote stand efficiency.
Welcome to the FoxPro podcast brought to you by FoxPro Game Calls. We're back with another episode of the FoxPro podcast. I'm John Collins and today we're discussing remote presets. We'll go over the advantages of using presets and how they can make you a more efficient predator hunter. Joining us is Fox Pro staffer Corey Gra. What's going on, Corey? Oh, doing pretty good. How's John Collins today? I'm I'm doing good. Um you're uh maybe we're both blessed today. You get to look at my pretty face. I get to look at your okay face. Me and Cory are actually out here in western Kentucky. We've been trying to shoot some fish. We're out here. We got our little buddy Jace Dylan u with us. We've been uh fishing with Dennis Redden and Lance Brantley out here. We've got our Fox Pro mud cutter lights. Um trying to s shoot some fish. We shot some last night. Weather got us a little bit, didn't it? Start. Started off. I mean, it's been all across the Midwest here. This summer's been really unseasonable rains, you know, here in the Midwest. And we had to battle a little bit of that last night. Had to wait on some weather to move through and it seemed like it just kind of messed the fish up for the first few hours, didn't it, John? Right. Yes. Yep, it did for sure. it. I guess it kind of goes just like with any anything you're you're chasing, fish, and hunting or whatever whether you know I never really thought about it for shooting fish because I'm I'm still very new to this sport, but I could definitely tell the difference. Uh but once it cleared out of there and then what 30 minutes after it was gone, we started having fish come up and we started shooting started shooting some fish. But we had some pretty treacherous looking stuff. I mean, it was lightning striking down here. I am on this big aluminum platform stuck way up in there above everybody else like a lightning rod. So, we wasn't worried about that. We knew he's going to get you first, right? But we've we've had we've had fun. Uh we figured we got the podcast stuff with us, so we figured we'd knock out a podcast uh today. We've got some downtime, so we figured we'd talk about a little bit of coyote hunting, predator, you know, predator hunting in general really. Uh coyote, fox, bobcats. uh how you can use your presets to uh uh just make you more efficient. There's a lot of lot of pluses uh when it comes to, you know, everybody already understands if you're running a Fox Pro unit, a Fox Pro remote, you've already seen how beneficial the presets are. And it's something I use every single stand. I don't know if I've ever made a Coyote stand and didn't use presets in some form or fashion. Right. Correct. And I've actually used my presets more in the last 10 years than I did the probably the previous four or five years having the TX1000 remote. My hot button is probably my main thing that I used in the early going of the TX1000 and then, you know, just trying to be a better predator hunter. I got to where I started using my presets more often. Right. Right. That's one thing, guys. We thought about doing a a podcast over this. I don't know, we talked about it like a month ago. Um, and it kind of got spurred back up last night because we had uh Lance Brantley. He was he's been fishing with us. And if anybody follows the bow fishing world, you've probably heard of Lance Brantley. He's won he's on fire. The World US Open Cinjun 8. I think he's either placed or won him and his team and all of them. And I tell you what, um, he's a coyote hunter as well. He runs a Fox Pro Shockwave and he'll get it figured out. This he's very competitive. I'm just saying in the future, if you're entering into a contest for coyote hunting and you see Lance's name on there, he's probably going to be a contender before you know it. Yeah, he he's a baller. I mean, everything he does, he's a baller. He's on top of his fishing game right now. And you're correct. look for him to be on top of some predator hunting game before long. I know. It seems like he's one of those that's kind of like a a jack of all trades, I guess you might say. And when he gets started in on something, he uh he's like laser focused on it. Goes full boore. He's 110% committed to it. I know he was talking last night, you know, there's coyote tournaments everywhere. Uh seems like anymore. And once, you know, winter's going on and deer seasons are winding down, it seems like there's a tournament somewhere every weekend. But he was talking about that last night and, you know, he's said he's he's already has won some smaller ponds and stuff like that. But be interesting to see what he does on some of his bigger stuff in the future. But anyway, shout out to Lance Brantley. We're going to try to shoot some more fish with him tonight. So, and Dennis, if y'all know who Dennis is, I got to give these guys shout outs because they're just just great guys. And both of them are are hunters. They they hunted a little bit of everything. Dennis has hunted everything. Yes. I mean, elk, moose, mountain line, coyotes, bobcats, zebra. He's been Yeah. been over to Africa. I mean, if he's if there's something you can hunt, he has done it. U with archery equipment, too. I mean, he's just one of the most well-rounded uh outdoorsman I've ever met. Yes, he's very outdoorsy and just a heck heck of a guy, too. Oh, Dennis is great. He's he's good people for sure. Well, let's get talking about the uh advantages of using presets for predator hunting. Like I said, this can go for anything that you're going to be running uh Fox Pro 4. I mean, it could be for coyotes, bobcats, I mean, fox, if you're a crow hunter, um snow geese, it don't matter. Your presets are going to uh be very handy for you. And there's several advantages of using presets and you know some of them that just stand out right off the bat and this is simple stuff. One is just save time scrolling through your remotes. You know you can get to a sound quickly. Um you know go to you have your most used sounds that you use at any given time. Uh you can program right there into your presets. I'm sure you do that. Oh absolutely. Once you get the gist of how to set your presets up and your hot buttons, man, it just flows so good on a stand, especially when you got something mapped out like how you want to call that stand. It's so easy to find. Uh you're not digging through all your categories trying to, you know, find that MFK sound that works real good with, you know, one of your your prey distress sounds from Fox Pro. So, it's just a great way to break things down and be right there ready, you know, within the 50 top sounds in your in your files. Yeah. And it's it's super simple to set up your presets. And another big advantage when you are setting them up, I mean, uh, one thing is you can save time, not just save time scrolling, but you can save time adjusting big jumps in volume because you can actually set preset your volume for each sound that you throw into your presets. You know, it's just like say if you get started on a stand and you, you know, you power your remote up, then you scroll through to find a sound that you're going to play and you're, of course, you're sitting there on zero. If say if it's a how, you want to start your stand off with a how, you've scrolled to it instead of going right to a preset and then you've had to up your volume from zero to whatever you want to start that how at. me with a X24 or X360. I'm running house anywhere between 28 and 32. So if you go from zero to 32, that's a pretty big jump. But you can already have that sound and that sound level preloaded in there. Of course, this is simple stuff. Everybody knows this, but you know, it might be something you not not really clicked on. But those are those are huge timesaving, easy things that you knew that your presets will just solve automatically, right? And then each sound's different, too. So, you know, you you may have that prey distress sound that sounds to your ear where you want it at, say on volume 26, and then if you're having to go back through your remote to change that sound, and you start on 26, and maybe it's too loud or it's too soft, your preset set fixes that for you. cuz you hit it, it's already ready for you to go on say on volume 24, right? And it's just it just flows right into your stand. Right. And another thing too, you talking about, you know, I mentioned something about how and you said all sounds are different. All houses are different. I've got some house that that I play at 28, right? I've got some house I play at 34. Exactly. I mean, that's a big difference, but some some coyotes are just different. you know, the the sound file that that's you know, the the coyote's been recorded on some some sound files are actually recorded quieter. Exactly. Yes. So you you know, you might want to run that one at 32 34 versus another one that you run like at at 28. And same thing for different pup distresses and stuff like that. And for example, it's like say um MFK broke pups and Fox Pros high pitch coyote pup. It seems like they're more of a kind of a quieter recorded sound. So, I'm actually running them louder. Exactly. Than I might like say a pup screams pup three from Fox Pro. That's extremely loud. Yeah. Or a stanky pup 8w week or or boon pup 7 week. All those are are a louder sound. So, I'm actually running them on a lower volume than I am those previously mentioned uh pup distresses if that make you know if that makes sense. Different levels how they recorded. Yeah. Yeah. Another big advantage uh using presets and this is probably my number one advantage uh that I tell people about. I talk about this in seminars I do is I'm very big on using my remote and using presets to stop animals and to call animals back in. When I say it there there's there's three situations right there. One, if you got a coyote that's advancing to the call hard, say you mute it and he ain't stopping, but you need him to stop. I've got sounds in my precess. I know I can hit very quickly that are liable to make that coyote check up. Or if that coyote spooks on something and takes off running, I can easily hit get to a sound that's, you know, fast, a howl, a fight, or whatever. It's either going to stop that coyote or turn him and make him come back in. And kind of like that third deal is is say you call in multiple coyotes and you shoot that first one and others start to scatter, you don't automatically have to start just, you know, mag dumping on them things. You know, read their body language. have a set of sounds right there in your presets and your hot buttons and stuff that you can get to very quickly to either stop them, slow them down, or actually stop them, turn them turn them around and run right back in there to you. And you're a good example of that, John. Uh we've watched you for years, and you know, there's a lot of content out there on Fox Pros hunting TV page. We did a video back this winter, prime example of that. We called in a triple, but our first coyote spooked off the whatever. I think it seen us, you know, sitting there, but I was able to get right to that hot button and I think it was uh he was three. He was just like 35 yards. So, right. So, he probably saw he probably saw Cory moving probably. Actually, we got Jace back here. Jace was on that hunt. Mhm. Now, Jace, he's you know, he can't hang with these old men. So, he's laying back here in the bed asleep. So if we hear somebody come here slamming doors as Jay's waking up, but Jace was on that hut running camera. Bet they saw Jace. That's probably what it was. He can't defend himself cuz he's in the bed. His leg was shaking probably of all the excitement. But no, we're just giving Jace some good fun there. He's good kid. Y. But you're right, that that coyote tried to, you know, he wasn't like turning running back in the thicket, but he got nervous. But you were able to switch sounds quickly and keep that sucker interest. And then what happened after we shot that first one? Well, we went right back in to our sequence. Called another one out. Yep. Ended up killing three coyotes on that stand. Yeah. And I benefit that stand to what we're talking about right now because I had, you know, a lot of these hot button sounds set for just that scenario to get that coyote stopped and then hit the recall button. We was right back to our sequence and Yep. rolled him right in. Yep. and and you know you mentioned that uh watching videos for me and stuff like that that is one you know I've always used my remote in some form or fashion to stop coyotes after say initial shot and I call in multiples and stuff like that but it really came a necessity for me once I started self- filming um you know I've done this for a living for for several years and learned pretty quickly if you So, uh, there's a coyote that's not shot on film for me, you know, it's not for what I do. I can't use it, right? So, I've got to have the coyotes on film. So, what long story short on that, if I'm I can't shoot it running coyotes, right? I can't track a coyote with a rifle and track a coyote with a camera and plus trying to do something, fumble around with the remote, I have got to have a coyote stationary to shoot them and film them. Now, I have pulled a few shots out of my hind end with them running and me getting a camera on them. Usually, they're straight away or I let them just perfect and come there and got them and they're just on the edge of the frame. But that is pure luck for two reasons. It's pure luck that I even got them shot on camera where they were running and moving like that. The second thing is I'm just not all that great at shooting running coyote. And I think a lot of people, if they were honest with themselves, they'll find out they ain't very good at shooting running coyotes. It's a low percentage shot. I don't care what anybody says. Even the guys that are that are pretty proficient at it, that are really good at it, it's definitely a lower percentage shot than them shooting a coyote that's standing still. And every second that goes by that that coyote's running away from you, the odds are getting less and less. You know, that's exactly right. But I'm like you. You know, I don't do it for a living like you do, John, but you know, I do a lot of self- filming myself. And what I've learned over the years, and it was a mind game for me to try and get that switched over from doing a kiss, stopping a coyote. Yep. I've had coyotes spook on that more times than I've had them stop or just even the you know now it is effective to wolf at one and then and I'll use it anytime I need to but a calm coyote come to the call you know that's not nervous or anything like that and he's still maybe moving you want to stop him in a certain spot the remote's the way to go. Yeah. Well, you know there's several advantages too. I mean, it's like one of the reasons why you run a e- call. One of the advantages of running a e- call is to keep uh the animals eyes off of you. It's the attention's towards that call that can be set offset from you. So, what happens if you start lip squeaking or or whistling or wolfing at a coyote? He looks right at you, don't you? I mean, it brings attention right to you, which hey, I've killed dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of coyotes doing that. But it's kind of like we was talking about self- filming. I still wolf at them from time to time or growl at them or lip squeak at them or whatever to get them to stop. But a lot of times I'm trying to get them to stop with my remote. A lot of times it might just be mute or whatever. But that keeps them keeps their eyes off me because I've got extra movement if I'm running a camera and a and a rifle. You know, I'm in a unique situation with that. But I've just had to, you know, evolve or change my style of hunting because of that camera. And I think I've learned a few things from doing it that have made me a better coyote hunter, coyote killer, coyote caller, whatever you want to call it. U just because I put myself in situations to get the best shot opportunities I can. And one of those best shot opportunities that I can get is a coyote that is stationary standing still. Absolutely. and and I agree 100% because we've watched it from you, you know, over the years and you've you've fine-tuned that and we've all we've all sat down and watched it. So, it's a good example. You're a good example to everybody out there that needs to start using their presets. Well, I I think it's the simple thing for that, you know, and I'm talking about trying to to get a coyote stopped. Whether he's running to you, you need to stop him, or he's running away, you need to stop him. whatever that situation is, or you've shot one coyote, two coyotes, whatever, and you got the second, third, or fourth one that's running off. Yeah, there's times you need to be shooting at that coyote if you want to get him cuz he's not going to give you another chance. But if there's any inclination at all that he looks like he's going to mic check up or he's not just absolutely digging with his ears pinned back and all that type of stuff, and you think you could get him stopped, u by all means, heck, try to stop him with a remote. Um, and I think if you're just honest with yourself, just ask you this question. Am I better at shooting a coyote standing still or am I better shooting at a coyote running? Exactly. If you're better at shooting coyote that's running, by all means get on it. Shoot them as they're running to you. You know, whatever. Well, and I'm real guilty, and you've seen this from some of my videos, too. It's It's different when you you know, a bobcat, you know, totally different coming into a cold than a coyote. Yeah. I absolutely love to lip squeak a a bobcat to get him stopped because I want him looking at me. I you know you you see deep in their eyes you know when they're 15 20 yard away coyote you just can't get away with that 90% heck I' I'd say much they going to give you as much time that's sure if they don't turn inside out right at the beginning they're they going to give you too many seconds too many seconds to do it that's that's for sure but it uh I think it kind of brings us right in you know and you we've already mentioned it talked about hot buttons Uh we talk about hot buttons and user buttons on our remotes. You know, a TX1000 has four hot buttons. You know, P1, P2, P3, P4. What that stands for is preset one, two, three, and four. And so like your first four presets that you set that TX1000 are going to be assigned to that P1, P2, P3, P4 that's up on the side of that TX uh TX1000. Now, the TX2000, which a lot of you guys might not be familiar with yet, you know, the TX2000 is a new remote from Fox Pro that's with the X360 and will be with the X48 when we get it out this fall. Uh, but it has two hot buttons, a P1 and P2, but it also has two user buttons, and you can assign those user buttons to presets as well, so that you can use those as hot button. You can use those as hot buttons if you want. And u I can't remember you got he's actually got the remotes over the TX1000's got a user button on it too, doesn't it? I can't remember what all you can Does it have a user button on it? I think it does down at the bottom. Now I'm I've never really done much assigning to that user button, so I don't know what all you can assign it to. Um but the uh the user buttons, say like on a TX2000, it's pretty slick. Uh, if you don't want to set them to a preset, how I've got like my user buttons and hot buttons set up. Of course, hot buttons P1 and P2 is going to be your one and two preset, but I've actually got uh my user one button set up as advanced 360. So, you can hit that user button, go straight into advanced 360 sound where it's going to start putting movement into to your sound, you know, fading speakers in and out and and it sounds like an animal moving. But my user two, I got it set on preset three. There you go. That's my, you know, I've got three presets right there. And, you know, I've got them set up at different times of year for for different stuff. But, um, my main thing that I want to put those hot buttons for, if I'm using that TX1000 where I've got, um, you know, four presets, I'm usually going to have like two, usually how I have it is two different pup distresses, a coyote fight, and a how. There you go. And reason I do that is that how can stop coyotes from running off. Your pup distresses can stop them from running off, you know, make them check up or turn around, come right back to you, you know. And what what'll happen? I'll start I'll hit one of them. If that coyote don't start checking up, I'll hit the second one. And if he still ain't checking up, I'll hit the third one. And you just got to keep reading those coyotes body language. you know, and I know this makes big difference whether you're in open ground or wooded terrain or, you know, every situation's different, but I've also got that how sitting right there too that I can go to that how and usually one of those four presets is going to stop that coyote. Now, I'm not talking about sitting there hitting P1, letting it run for a minute, hitting I'm talking but you're you're going to know the difference pretty quick. You can see I mean it's instant what they're going to do. So, and I'm a little different. I'm pretty well I mean I when I use those pre4 pre excuse me I got tongue tied when I use those four presets on my TX1000 uh I I've got a pup distress I've got a how y but then I've also got another pup distress because I get fumbled up a little bit. So I want to make sure I got both my pup distress sounds on the same side. So they're usually preset one and two. And then the opposite side, which is three and four preset, I'll have a how that I want to start my stand out with that will also be effective for trying to stop a coyote. But then I've also got it set up for a prey distress that I want to start a stand off with. So just gets me going in the stand. I can hit that button, get my stand going, and then I can go through my remote back to my presets and figure out how I want to call that stand. Right. Yeah. And that's uh and that's the thing with setting up your presets. And we'll talk about how we organize and set up our presets here in just a minute. But you just got to set that stuff up whatever's the best for you. Whatever however you like to run your stand or whatever you find it's best for you to get coyote stopped, called back in or what what have you. I mean, that's the that's the beauty of these remotes. You can put whatever you want in those first four, right? I mean, you if you want four bird sounds, right? It don't matter. You can put whatever you want right there. They can be all coyote vocals and you know you can cater that remote in those first four sounds or first two sounds or first three sounds, whatever to whatever you want, whatsoever is going to match your calling style. Well, I want to talk about that for just a second, John. like the difference between now the TX2000 and our, you know, I'm not taking nothing away from the the TX1000, but uh our presets now on the TX2000, they're a little bit more user friendly, I feel like. U now I'm not trying to reach across my remote if I'm just using it onehanded trying to hit my three and four, you know, now we've got four buttons that we can use right across the top of the the buttons here that is easy accessible. Yep. And like I said, I'm not taking nothing away from the TX00. It It's been a pinnacle. That's one of the biggest upgrades. You know, that's one, you know, the thought that went into that new remote. Um, and you know what he's saying is that TX1000, the four presets are up on the side, up off the side of the screen and not on the edge of the screen, but actually on the outside on the right and left facing right and left. U, and the new new TX2000. It actually has them right on the front of the screen, right there at your thumbs. Yep. Uh, right there below the screen at the top of the keypad. So you got U1, U2, P1, P2. Yep. So I mean they're it's a great upgrade really. It's a simple upgrade, but it's huge. I mean, it's just so much easier to hit. Not that it's horrible to hit the TX1000 presets. And if you're used to running them, I mean, you can do it in your sleep, right? But, I mean, right off the bat, first per first time you ever use a TX2000, it's right there at your thumb. Just easy. And looking at the two remotes, you know, I've I've seen comments out there, "Oh, man, that remote's a lot bigger." It is a little bigger. It is a little bigger, but I'm not going to tell you that it's a lot bigger. It's So, what we've got, we've got a little bit bigger screen. It's a little bit thicker from one side to the other. It's just I'm looking at I've got them both sitting here right now. It's what, like an inch taller, but with the bigger screen size, that's to me that's a plus. Yeah, there's not much really much difference in those two remotes. I mean they yes definitely looking at them they're different sizes but the feel of that TX2000 soon as it won't take you 20 seconds and you'll be used to it. Oh yeah it is a little bit bigger remote but it's not oversized at all. Very nice feeling in your hand. Very easy to maneuver all the buttons. It's a it's an excellent remote. It's a new It's going to be the new It's the new standard. The TX1000 was always the standard for every remote no matter what game call you're running. Now the TX2000 is I agree and it it is a little bit po more more power demanding. So they added one more battery than over the It runs off four AA's and the TX1000 does three. But that's what I like. It's kind of raised up where the battery tray is at on it and I it's easier for me to grab. I'm not trying to grab the whole thing. Y uh but I like it, John. It's I think it's something that was needed, you know, for an upgrade over the the 1000. And uh with all the features and the LCD screen, you can customize it however you want. Font size. I mean, yeah, anybody that says they can't see something on this remote, it we could do a whole podcast on this TX2000. One thing, it does so much stuff and there's so many ways to customize it with custom colors. And you're thinking like, why would you do custom colors? Well, there's some you can actually adjust the the back screen, the uh the color of the actual letters and numbers and all that type of stuff that can just color blindness is really stand out to your eye a lot better. But uh like I said, that'll be another podcast. But the next thing I like to talk about on this preset stuff is is organization. Mhm. Um, I think organization of your presets is super important. I mean, it's going to make you more efficient. It's just like say on a Shockwave, X24, X2S, any of those type units, uh, CS24s, um, you know, they'll hold up to a,000 sounds. Now, you're not going to use a,000 sounds on every stand. You're probably only going to be running probably 10 or less easy. U, easily 10 or less. And the same thing for these, the X360 and X48, they'll hold up to 2500 sounds. I mean, hold a ton of sounds. Now, me, usually in my presets, I'm setting up anywhere at any time of the year, anywhere from like 10 to 20 presets. A lot of times I'm around that 12 to 14 mark on presets. And how you organize them uh can depend on several factors. Um, one we done talked about my first four. I'm going to have one and two on mine. Actually, now one and two. I used to always have two uh pup distresses. One and two. Now I've got a pup distress. I think I've got pup distress number three is number one. MFK pound town is number two. Um MFK Stanky Pup 8week is number three. And number four is female sorehouse. And the reason is those are sounds that I know I can hit to either stop coyotes or cow coyotes back in or whatever the situation calls for. Now after that I'm usually having I think I've got a I don't have my remote in front of me. I'm trying to do this off memory. I think I've got like another fight. I think I alternate out like MFK table scraps and MFK fight challenge. How? Yeah. One of those type fights is always at number five. And then I'll have like three different house my three favorite house. Exactly. You know that I might start a standoff with you know I can scroll down to number five or six pretty quick. Mhm. Or you know or hit it with that number four that was female sore house. And then after that I might have some social sounds. It's going to depend on the time of the year. Uh social sounds, uh other pup distress type sounds, prey distress sounds, you know, and a lot of times almost almost always I'm actually operating from my preset page when I make a stand. Used to I was always going through categories and stuff. Uh but nowadays I I'm pretty much 98% running from my preset page from start to finish. Well, and the reason we do that is you get, you know, we get in that sequence that's working, you know, whether it's from a podcast that we've listened to you and Tory Cook, hey, what's working right now or something that you've learned on your own, you know, you're that's why we move it to the preset. Yeah. So, that's usually what how I set my my remote up. I'm a little bit different than you. I still got like my one and twos are pup distresses and then after that I've got some coyote fights and then I've got my favorite house. Yep. My back end of my presets is my prey distress. So from like say 50 to 40 is where I've got all my my prey distress sounds. So when I bump go preset, you know, it it starts you off at one. I can go back the other direction and have those prey distress sounds even closer. Yeah. And then my middle sounds, like say from like 20 to 40, I don't use those sounds a whole lot, but they're there if I need them, right? So, they're just kind of my fillers in between 20 and 40. Yeah. Another really cool thing, well, I won't say cool thing, but thing that I do is I'm usually I'm changing my first four presets are pretty much their main stays. They stay. They're there all from January all 365 days a year. That's just what they are. But what I was want to cover is is I actually do change the rest of my presets to match the time of year. Uh you just brought it up. We've done numerous numerous podcasts where we've talked about uh sounds and certain sound sequences that you can try uh through certain times of year. You know, we've done June specific podcast. We've done July specific podcast. We've done um the yearling bust up time for we've done um breeding season stuff. So when all that stuff occurs, breeding season, we'll start it because it's first year, right? I've got presets from five through the rest of it kind of set up for how I'm going to run a breeding season type sequence. And then say once pups are in the dirt, you know, they're den season, I'm changing those presets up. I'm running a den season type sequence. So I've got all my sounds and presets right there in order that's organized that I can run right through my stand that I like to run the sounds and sequences on the fly right there in the preset. So I'm not having to jump from category to category or whatever. I've already got all the sounds um you know preloaded with the volumes I want them at. Now I still fluctuate up and down from there but I've got all that stuff set up. Then again when it gets on later into the summer when the puckering time frame I'm running those sequences will or those presets will change again. Exactly. You know from five on out to however many sounds I'm going to have in there. Uh yearling bust up same thing. I'm running different I've got different sounds I'm inserting in there. And then towards the end of the year when a lot of our bobcat my bobcat seasons are in, you know, if I'm making bobcat specific stands, guess what? It's a sequence. I've got some sequences in there. You know, I've got at least four or five sounds that's in those presets that I know I'm going to run through to try to call in a bobcat. Yep. And we do the same thing with crows, raccoons. That's why I was getting back to my filler sounds because my, like I said, my one through 20 usually stays the same around year round and then my 40 through 50 stays the same year round. But that 20 to 40, those are that's the area that I use that for is like the what's happening now type sounds. Change them up. Change them up every part of the season, whether it's pup raring, den season, or if it's breeding season. That's It's so easy. It's so easy to do that with. And I know a lot of guys, John, that don't use their presets at all. Yep. And I can't believe it. I really can't believe it. I think one thing is worth covering you talking about the differences in the uh TX2000 and TX1000. It's actually it's easy to change presets no matter what in either one of them. But they've actually changed some things in uh the preset page for how you can do different stuff in a TX2000. You can actually hold down I think you hold down on it and it brings up you can edit it. Edit it. Uh so you can change like volume or whatever you want. Like you say, well I'm starting off on 26 on this sound. It needs to be 22. You can simply change that. You can move it move your presets. Like if you got a preset at number three, you're like, "Man, I want to keep this in my presets, but I don't need it at number three. I want it at number 11." Yeah, you can move it easy. Just hold down on it, hit move and move it to wherever you want. That was the one that I was the most excited about. Pretty cool. Was being able to move that sound up or down in your sound file on your presets. It's one of the best upgrades that I could think that you could do to the presets. Yeah. Yep. Um, you got anything you want else you want to cover? I was wanting to talk about um actually setting your presets up and setting volumes for different type of different type of sound. You got anything else you want to talk about on those other points before we before we cover that? I don't think so. I think I'm I think I'm I'm kind of at a standstill with that, but if I do, I we'll hit it. But yeah, go ahead. Go ahead and roll with what you got. Well, I was I get questions all the time on how we set up presets and what order I put them in. And we've pretty much covered that. I told you what my first four, tell you what my fifth one usually is changing out with a few different fights. And then the rest of my presets are going to be set up for the time of year, whether it's uh, you know, breeding season, denning season, pupering, family bust up, going after fox or bobcats or, you know, raccoons. You know, got into calling raccoons a little bit. I'll set presets up just for that, which I don't have many. I only run through like three different sounds or four different sounds for raccoons, but you know, I still put them in my presets instead of fumbling through. And one of the reasons for that is just like we talked about in our raccoon calling podcast. You all listen to it. When I've got about four different raccoon sounds sitting in there, right on either side of it is a pup distress and coyote fights because I've called in coyotes. No telling how many times trying to call in raccoons. So that's, you know, that's how I'm setting that stuff up. But I think what's worth covering is is what sound level we set all these presets at because this is another thing I get asked about all the time. You know, what volumes are you running your rabbit sounds, what volumes you running your house, what, you know, so all that stuff can be preset or low, you know, set with your presets. So a lot of times with say my house with like a X24 style unit, pretty much all the X series units. Okay. Um, my hs are going to be anywhere from 26 to 34. And I know that's a pretty, it's not a huge range, but it's still kind of a broad range. And we covered that earlier. The reason is some house are louder than than others, right? You know, uh, say like Camir Lonely House from MFK, it pretty loud at a house. Pretty loud. Yeah. MFK Moon Loan Line House is pretty loud. So, I've actually got those like in 28 stuff like that. Uh there's, like I said, there is some house that I'll actually run at 32, 33, 34. Yeah. Up in there. Um most of my pup distresses, I usually run anywhere from 22 to 34 to even 35. Now, how I usually set them on my presets, most of them I've got preset at volume 26. Yeah, somewhere in there. Uh there is some of those louder because there's certain times of year I usually put in. I love high pitch coyote pup from Foxro. It is an excellent excellent sound. It's a good sound to run during the pupering season. It's always it's in my presets right now. I run it louder. I got it set on 32. Mhm. And it might it's a higher pitch sound. So it actually might be carrying further or better than I think it does, but to my ear it doesn't sound as loud. I want it louder. Yeah. It doesn't sound as loud at that 26 is what you're getting at. Yeah. Um, most of my prey distress type stuff, no matter if it's birds or rabbits, are usually set around 50% type volume. And that that range is usually somewhere from like 18 to 22. Sometimes it's at 16. You know, it's just it's just on what level of volume that sound was recorded at. It's kind of how I place it into my presets, whatever volume level it is. But most time it's right around either right at 50%, a little below or a little over. Now all these sounds I might adjust it after I hit play. Say it starts out at 20 for Mrs. McCottontail. You best believe I might ramp that thing up to 32. Yeah. Even 34. Who knows? Or louder. Or I might ramp it all the way down to 10. Yeah. Oh, and that's because it depends on the terrain. It depends on how it's bouncing back to you and what it's bouncing off of and measuring on your ear. Yes, exactly. And you adjust for that. You adjust on the fly. And I like to run, you know, I like to run that Mrs. McCotton tail way down there. Especially when I put eyes on an animal, I like to get it down. Yep. Talk with one another sound we didn't mention was fights. Um fights is pretty similar to my pup distresses. uh probably a little usually most of them around 26 to 30 and I'm always adjusting level my fights cuz I'll ramp him up pretty loud. I'll bring them back down a little bit, but usually it's right there at that 3/4 volume type range. Like I think I've got MFK pound town uh set at um I think I've got it set at 28 I think. Uh, but I've actually got like say fight challenge type sound where it's got those hows at the beginning. I got it set on 26. After it gets through the house, I ramp it up to about 30. Yep. Y that's just how I run it. But that's how I set up my presets. Now for like birds, same thing as rabbits. Usually around 50% is what my preset volume is. And then like raccoon sounds, they're set pretty loud. I usually start them out 28 or 30. Yeah. Every one of them. And and we'll get even louder than that. 32 34 on them. Yeah. That volume don't hurt them raccoons at all. I like to I like to blast that thing. And I tell you what, I found out too. I don't think volume, you know, from what I've seen, I've never seen, and we talked about this before, I don't think I've ever seen a coyote spook or flare off on too much volume, right? I don't really think you can bother him either, to tell you the truth. Uh, now I'm not always sitting on 40, of course, but I've never really seen where uh it really really spooks them. I think maybe a bobcat could. I don't know. But you've had no telling how many encounters where you've cranked that volume down and had those bobcats come in. Now, I do think volume can be a trigger for some animals. I think cranking the volume up can trigger them to come on in. Exactly. or going the opposite way. Toning your volume way down can be a trigger uh for bobcat, coyote, fox, whatever. Keep advancing. Yeah. Mhm. How do you set up your volumes on presets? Pretty similar. What are you doing? Very similar. Very similar. So, you know, we always we have that ear that we like that volume at and that's exactly I'm in the same range. Most of my uh prey distress sounds are just as what you said right around that 50% volume and then I can adjust from there with the terrain sound that's bouncing back at me. Uh coyote sounds specifically how I'm the same way. I'm right around that 30 mark usually and on up or on down. Uh, but it's it's a good tool right there at your fingertip to be able to hit that sound and have it right at the level you want. And I'm not going to go back over and cover exactly what you said on that because it's mine's almost Yeah. almost identical. Well, I think one thing for for everybody else setting those up, you just got to find out what works for you, what you like best. You know, just because I say I run it at a certain sound preset at 30, you don't have to do it at 30. There's a lot of I've said this many of times. There's a lot of right ways to call in a coyote. There's a lot of right ways to set up your remote. You just got to find what's most comfortable for you, what you like, how you like setting it up, what just works best for you while you're on a coyote stand, bobcat stand, calling crows, raccoons, whatever you want to do. Exactly. And if you same goes with stopping your coyotes. If you don't like them stopped and you want to shoot them running, by all means, that's that's what fits on it. Hey, your preset to stop a coyote could be another shot out of your 243 or your 22 22 250. Hey, they stop co pretty good, too, once they hit them. Oh, yeah. The thump. Hey, a bullet hit one right through the shoulder to stop a coyote a lot quicker than any preset. You just got to hit them. That's right. Hey, one more thing I think it's worth covering before we get off here and kind of goes off. It's kind of it's very similar to, you know, we're talking about you can run your entire stand off your presets, have everything organized out and run right through your stand. I mean, you can set up your stand like with the order of sounds you're want to go through. So say if it's like right now pup rearing time a lot of guys stands are going to consist of house a social type sound maybe a pup distress or two a pup fight or two then all out fight. just a general type, right? You know, pupering type stand sequence. You can actually have P1, whatever your favorite how is. P2 could be a puff that answers it or a group how. Uh, your preset three could be a social type sound that you might go into for your third sound. Fourth, fifth sound might be your pup distresses. Sixth, seventh might be your pup fights. and then finish out with with all out coyote fights. And like I said, that's just a general generalization type thing. But if you know you're going to run eight sounds on a stand, you know what order you're going to run them in, why not put them in order on your presets. Exactly. One through eight. Yeah. You just keep scrolling right on down and hitting the next one. That's a lot simpler than being in your how coyote house category, hitting your back button, scrolling down and finding your your group house and then getting back out of it and scrolling down and all the time you're adjusting volume as well, right? And going to your social sounds and get into your pup distresses and going back to your pup fights and you know and so on and so on and so on. You if you're going to run eight sounds, you know you're going to run them. Have them in your presets. Yeah. And then, you know, I guarantee these guys that are on top of their game right now with these coyote contests, killing 30, 40 coyotes a night presets, they are setting presets. They probably got about four of them in there. Probably not. But I bet they're going be hitting out. Yeah, but they're that's what they're doing. I guarantee it. They're they're cutting time out. Time is key to contest hunting and I guarantee they're doing it. Yeah. To go in, right? what I was trying to get into. I think I got a little sidetracked. That's all right. But with setting up your sequences, say if you're going, like I said, running eight sounds one through eight, you can set them up. Another thing you can do, and I haven't done a whole lot of this, but this is a very cool feature that FoxPro has had out for a long time is FoxCast. Yeah, you can actually build a FoxCast sequence and put that sequence in with your volumes, how long it runs, that whole nine yards, and all you got to do is hit play. go to whatever Fox Cast sequence you want to play and just hit it and just let it do it do its own thing. You don't even have to touch your remote no more. It's pretty cool. Don't ask me about it because I'm just as guilty. I've never really set one up, but I need to. Yeah. And the the X uh X360 and X48 took it even further with the new Fox Pilot type stuff. Uh there's there's pro hunts in there that's entire stand laid out. So, I think it goes in well with running presets, especially running presets for a entire sequence. You can, you know, do your Fox Fox Cast Fox pallet type stuff or your remote and your e-coll unit can run your whole entire stand and you just simply push one or two buttons, just let it do it all for you. I'm excited about the Fox Pilot. I've not used it yet, but I'm I'm excited to get it in the field this fall and really put it to use. Yeah. Well, Corey, is there anything else you would like to cover on presets or anything you want to talk about? Oh, man. We get off here. Well, let's go back to the advanced 360. Do it. Let's do it. Uh, you know, this is a new feature from Fox Pro. Um, you know, I've had this since what, February. It's It's amazing. Advanced 360 is so amazing. And I think it's going to take some of these sounds to the next level with just exactly what we're talking about, like setting up our presets for different volumes and whatnot. It's kind of already doing that for you with Advanced 360 because it's casting that sound so many different directions. And you can set that up how you want, you know, uh the intensity on that. And so I just want to tell everybody out there, you know, a little bit about that X or the the advanced 360 part of it. It's a really cool feature. And if you've not heard one yet, man, if you're local to me and you want to hear it, I'll I'll let you listen to it. Advanced 360 is unreal. Another thing, going right back to that Fox Pilot stuff, you can program in when you want Advanced 360 to come on. So, like say if you your third sound might be some type of sound you want to add movement to, you can program it in there. That advanced 360 comes on then. And I learned this too when we was doing these um these Fox Pilot sounds. You can set up your decoy too. Yeah. And set up Fox Pitch. Yeah. I mean, all on Fox every bit of it. Yeah, it is. Oh, I forgot about Fox Fusion. Fox Fusion and Fox Pitch at the same time. You can actually play two sounds at once and adjust the pitch of both sounds at the same time. It's pretty pretty wild. It's pretty advanced. I mean, it's very advanced. It's when they named it, they named it well. It's it's advanced. Yeah. Yeah. But that's going back to like we was talking about our presets, hot buttons, user buttons, and stuff. Just like on my X360, like I said, my U1, my user one button is advanced 360 because I do a lot most of my calling is off the fly in my presets. Okay. But whatever situation I'm in, whatever sound I'm on, I might might something click in my head or there might be some kind of situation where I've got a coyote or bobcat or whatever. It's hung up instead of me just shooting it. I like I'm going to call it sucker. I want that thing come closer. I want it closer. Um there might be something where I'm like, you know what, I want to add movement to whatever sound I'm on. All I got to do is hit U1, my user one button, and it goes straight in to my advanced 360. Like you said, it has different intensity levels, so you can set all that stuff up. Uh, but it's a it's a great tool. It It sounds awesome. It works. It works. And, you know, I think it's one of those features. It's worth being on a user bud. I really do. I think it's just what I one of the last things I want to say with the presets is guys, do yourself a favor and don't just grab your remote and take it to the field. actually put some time into figuring these things out, you know, and you can ask us on, you know, on our Fox Pro Hunting page, send us a message direct, but do yourself a favor. Go through the manual and figure out how this thing works because it it'll save you so much time if you just learn what this TX2000 will do and what Advanced 360 will do. Yep. And how to set these things up. just take a little time and and do it. There you guys have it. Like I said, if you're not running from your presets or setting your preset pages up, I strongly suggest that you do that. I really do think it's going to keep you more organized and it's going to make you a more efficient collar. I guarantee it. We hope everyone enjoyed this episode and we hope you join us again right here on the Fox Pro podcast.