Jon Collins and cartoon artist Tim Spike Davis discuss predator hunting.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls
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hello everyone you're listening to the
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Foxpro podcast this is John Collins and
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today I'm joined by a good friend Tim
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Spike Davis Tim we appreciate you jump
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on the podcast with us
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well I'm honored that you guys have me
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and I'm I'm honored to have you as a
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friend and and to work with Foxpro as a
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company to be on their podcast and uh
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just uh really excited about this so
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yeah yeah and you guys out there listen
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are probably familiar with some of Tim's
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cartoon work we use some of Tim's
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cartoons here at Foxpro on our social
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media pages and you can also find some
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attempts Tim's work and several print
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magazine Publications and another thing
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is Tim is also a coyote Hunter and uh
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Tim we've actually got to share a few
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stands together haven't we over the past
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years
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yep very memorable ones and John
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years ago uh uh invited me to come on
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down and do some stands with them and I
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told him if he was going to bite me I
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was gonna show up so I made the drive
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down and uh we've had some great times
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and I've always been appreciative of
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your hospitality and put me on coyotes
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yeah well Tim you want to you want to
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tell us a bit more about yourself let
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everybody know who Tim Davis is sure
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well I uh and it's one of the things
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that's kind of always been a funny
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aspect about me getting involved in the
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hunting community and and doing hunting
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cartoons for magazines and different
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companies is the I people are always
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shocked when they find out I live in the
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inner city of Chicago probably the
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farthest place you could think of if
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somebody had been into hunting and
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coyote hunting specifically and uh so
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I've lived it here uh since 1986 been I
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work with a church group in the
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University of Chicago and do a lot of
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work there and when I originally came to
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Chicago the church I work for owned some
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property in Missouri hurry and uh um
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that's where I got into Hunting Fishing
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of all places I
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um a couple of the pastors were big time
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into hunting and fishing and they uh I I
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did not grow up in a hunting or fishing
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family and so that's where when I got
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introduced to it
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and you know I just pursued it really
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enjoyed it and um
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when I was probably in my late 20s early
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30s I started making primitive bows and
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arrows I was hunting deer and stuff and
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well one day I watched the
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um video about this Randy Anderson video
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of uh him doing some coyote hunting I
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thought that looked amazing and uh I was
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pretty pumped on it so I started messing
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around with the idea of coyote hunting
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and I had seen some with deer hunting
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but never really got a chance to get a
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shot off on them or anything and knew
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nothing about coyote hunting and uh made
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every mistake you possibly could imagine
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um I still do a lot of that today oh
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yeah well yeah I mean I and one of the
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things is uh you know as I started doing
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this uh
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I'm probably you know you're listening
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to be shocking that somebody would
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actually publicly admit this but it took
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me about six years between the time I
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started committed to trying to kill
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coyote
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to the when I finally sealed the deal
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and um I generally laugh I tell people
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what I lack in intelligence I make up in
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determination and uh and my wife would
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even question me at times like honey
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either you're you're either doing
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something really wrong or they're just
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no cats well we knew there was coyotes
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there because we'd hear them at night
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howling we'd go down to this property we
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actually uh the church organization sold
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that Missouri property and years later
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we had some in West Central Illinois and
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that's right my wife and I had a little
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cabin down there we go down and it was
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right at all my hunting fishing and
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um and so a lot of times when I'd be on
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stand I would uh just be sitting there
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you know no no God show up I'd say
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they'll be thinking about what what are
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those coyotes going what what's going on
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in their life that they wouldn't show up
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right you know maybe they got marriage
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problems maybe they you know
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you know whatever and so I would I've
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always been a cartoonist I I grew up in
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an artistic family and and you know ever
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since I was a kid I would draw cartoons
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and so that's uh probably
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uh 2010
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I started drawing just randomly drawing
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some coyote hunting cartoons and
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um I uh I I out of nowhere decided we
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almost submit one to Predator extreme
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magazine and that was the the the big
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print uh magazine at the time how you
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see a Walmart part extreme is the you
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know the nation's biggest uh coyote
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hunting magazine and I sent some into
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the editor
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and the guy by the name of Marco
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listened uh
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in about a couple weeks later he wrote
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me back and said man we love this and
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man we'd really like to pick you up and
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pay you to do these cartoons and
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can you provide us six a year I only had
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two at the time but I I went ahead and
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made the leap of faith and said yes I
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can and I had no idea how I would but uh
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I started just drawing cartoons about
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Kyle hunting and and the funny thing is
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at the time that moment I had yet to
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actually seal the deal on a coyote so a
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lot of it was stuff I'd read or watched
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and uh shortly later I I got my first
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I called in uh shot coyote and uh even
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that was kind of a silly or a thing that
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was cartoon material wise I had a coyote
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that walked in and 80 yards and all I
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had on me was a shotgun and I just
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thought well I'm just gonna go for the
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shot and I actually dropped it on the
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first shot nice nice I had posted that
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on a hundred forum and no one outright
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called me a liar but everyone kind of
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thought that it was a made-up story and
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so I actually drew a cartoon about it
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and the funny thing was the minute I
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drew a cartoon it somehow validated the
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story well people thought that was funny
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you must be telling the truth I've
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noticed you've got a knack for taking uh
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personal experiences or things that's
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happened to you and turning them in the
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in the cartoons and you know yeah you've
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Drew cartoons for my kids yep me I
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remember one time you know I was out
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west and as soon as I got out there I
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had come out the kidney stone
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yeah I talked about that a little bit
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next like I know two weeks later in the
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mail I get a package from Jim you always
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know when Tim's sending you something
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because he's got the cartoon drawn right
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here on the outside of the of the letter
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and sure enough you had a you had a i it
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was pretty pretty funny deal about a
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coyote laughing at a guy having a kidney
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stone yeah so you have a pretty pretty
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good way of uh of taking life
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experiences and putting them on paper
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that's for sure well I appreciate it and
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that and that's one of the things I've
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tried it is one of the things that's
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actually helped me connect uh with a lot
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of folks in The Hunting Community is uh
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being able to take personal stories
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either from my life or I mean most of
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the cartoons where I'm drawing something
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that uh uh it's usually I'm screwing up
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or I'm doing something to Coyote
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outsmarts me you know all right most
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hunters relate to that story you know
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they oh my gosh I've been there I've
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done I've had that happen and uh but
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then I'll be online and I'll see you
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guys who will have something funny
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happen or something in their hunt and
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I'll draw a cartoon about it and and
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um it really resonates and helps me
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connect with people that I normally I
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mean usually to be honest in The Hunting
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Community
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uh always people have always been
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welcoming and kind to me but the minute
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I mentioned I'm from Chicago they're
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kind of like uh
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get a little standard office yeah a
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little bit like uh and there's a good
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buddy of mine down state
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um who
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uh you know I'd always kind of like
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teasing my Hammond you ever need
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somebody to come down and Carry Your
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rifles for yes you know kind of inviting
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myself in on because this guy you know
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just needed Joy worth he's a coyote
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killing machine and and he goes kind of
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always well he's never rude but he's
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always look because you know the minute
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they know you're from Chicago they say
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something's got to be wrong with you
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right I drew a cartoon about something
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was going on in his life with coyote
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hunting and he just thought it was so
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funny and the next thing I know he's
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like man come on down anytime you want
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you know right right you make somebody
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laugh and it opens up those doors and
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you know connects with people and and so
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I've been fortunate that I've been able
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to use that skill and that Talent too
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connect with people I probably would
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never got a chance to meet and
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um and I'm just grateful for uh and
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that's even with Foxboro you know
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getting to know Mike and Steve yeah
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drawing them cartoons about uh I think
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it was the
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Mike's first sunshine when he shot his
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first gray fox yep it was so memorable
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for Mike because he
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uh was he was he was reliving kind of
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his childhood experience the first time
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he got his first box and so I drew a
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cartoon about it and man Mike you'd have
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thought I'd given him a gold brick I
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mean he uh I just thought it was the
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greatest thing in the world and
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so for me like I said it's just it's
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it's something I'm blessed that I have
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the ability and the chance to do to to
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connect with people and of course you
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know it's also nice when companies want
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to pay you some money for it go buy some
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ammo yeah that's always welcome didn't
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it
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hey you want to tell us about you was
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talking about your first hunt there
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um you know the first successful hunt I
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thought it was pretty interesting you
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talking about how many years you
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actually spent in the field before you
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uh were successful and you know you see
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that a lot of times you see guys that'll
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get into the sport and they try I try
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try and they think they think there
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should be that instant success right
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there and they don't really realize
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there's more to it than just picking up
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a field or a wood lot and just going out
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there and putting a call down and
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pressing played and they just come
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out of the woodwork you know that's not
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really how it happens and you was
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talking about being persistent that's
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what it takes I mean even even if you've
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been into the coyote hunting world for
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a long time and and I've had a lot of
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success you'll still hit those dry
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spells and stuff like that and that's
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still part of it you just got to stay
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persistent because you know what the
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possibilities are but uh don't you won't
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you tell us about uh what what sound did
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you use what what sound were you playing
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when that coyote actually the first
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coyote that you killed tell us about the
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person tell us from start start to
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finish first step firsthand that you
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were successful on well and what had
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happened was on this property I was
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bouncing from stain it was large enough
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property than where I could balance with
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stance and I had a caller from a a
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company that doesn't even exist anymore
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uh but it was like a
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um uh what do you call it a rabbit
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distress sound and at the time didn't
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even ever because in Illinois just
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assumed that coyotes did not respond to
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house
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um so I just always burned out rabbit
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distress you know
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um and there was a pastor a cow pasture
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on a farmer's field near our property
0:11:08.700,0:11:13.459
that he always gave me permission to
0:11:10.079,0:11:18.000
hunt his his middle winners uh went out
0:11:13.459,0:11:20.300
and uh popped this again just randomly
0:11:18.000,0:11:23.220
put this call in the middle of the field
0:11:20.300,0:11:26.220
and uh laid up against this fence post I
0:11:23.220,0:11:28.980
had no cover uh and uh started running
0:11:26.220,0:11:30.720
this rabbit distress sound and honestly
0:11:28.980,0:11:32.700
I drew at this point in time I'm kind of
0:11:30.720,0:11:34.860
spacing out because I'm so used to
0:11:32.700,0:11:37.740
failure right I'm so accustomed to
0:11:34.860,0:11:40.740
failure uh that uh
0:11:37.740,0:11:43.079
I had my uh I had a bolt action 223
0:11:40.740,0:11:45.540
rifle which I still own uh Savage that
0:11:43.079,0:11:48.420
uh laid up against my
0:11:45.540,0:11:50.339
left side on some tripod or on uh some
0:11:48.420,0:11:54.240
sticks and then I had my shotgun across
0:11:50.339,0:11:56.279
my lap and uh sure enough this I you
0:11:54.240,0:11:59.100
know just this mysterious animal the
0:11:56.279,0:12:01.620
coyote actually appeared out of the
0:11:59.100,0:12:03.420
pasture or out of this Ravine comes up
0:12:01.620,0:12:04.920
and is looking at that call and it's
0:12:03.420,0:12:07.140
kind of tentatively looking and it
0:12:04.920,0:12:08.339
starts kind of walking towards it well
0:12:07.140,0:12:10.079
I'm sitting there and trying to figure
0:12:08.339,0:12:12.060
out when that moment is when you need to
0:12:10.079,0:12:13.380
make your move because I have nothing to
0:12:12.060,0:12:14.959
cover I mean I'm just laying up against
0:12:13.380,0:12:18.180
the fence post
0:12:14.959,0:12:19.920
and uh I gotta try to get my rifle
0:12:18.180,0:12:21.959
because I know it's the distance
0:12:19.920,0:12:23.820
I didn't walk again another thing to
0:12:21.959,0:12:26.100
I've learned through the past through
0:12:23.820,0:12:28.140
mistakes is making sure I know distances
0:12:26.100,0:12:31.920
or different spots so that I can make
0:12:28.140,0:12:34.440
that accurate uh shot when I uh you know
0:12:31.920,0:12:36.899
you only have a nanosecond to guess you
0:12:34.440,0:12:38.820
know right uh well I went to go reach
0:12:36.899,0:12:42.779
over slow reach over get my rifle and
0:12:38.820,0:12:44.459
that Kyle picked me out like I mean
0:12:42.779,0:12:47.339
instantly stopped and looked right at me
0:12:44.459,0:12:50.040
and I thought oh no it's it's uh I don't
0:12:47.339,0:12:52.260
have time to get my rifle up get in the
0:12:50.040,0:12:54.540
scope before he dumped down into that uh
0:12:52.260,0:12:57.180
Ravine so I literally swing up with my
0:12:54.540,0:12:59.459
12 gauge shotgun and I had
0:12:57.180,0:13:01.639
um double up Buck three and a half inch
0:12:59.459,0:13:03.899
shell uh
0:13:01.639,0:13:05.820
that uh
0:13:03.899,0:13:08.940
um cheapest ammo I could find you know
0:13:05.820,0:13:10.200
and I just shot at the thing well I
0:13:08.940,0:13:11.940
reloaded really quick because I thought
0:13:10.200,0:13:13.320
even if I can get it to just be knocked
0:13:11.940,0:13:16.680
off balance for a second maybe I could
0:13:13.320,0:13:19.320
get a second round downrange and that um
0:13:16.680,0:13:21.779
that kind of dropped instantly just just
0:13:19.320,0:13:24.540
like a sack of a rock just fell right to
0:13:21.779,0:13:26.880
the floor or the pasture and I could
0:13:24.540,0:13:28.320
hardly believe it I mean it unfolded so
0:13:26.880,0:13:30.440
fast you were sitting there thinking
0:13:28.320,0:13:33.000
what have I done what is that
0:13:30.440,0:13:35.399
it just still just the whole thing just
0:13:33.000,0:13:37.139
was so unreal and of course I'm thinking
0:13:35.399,0:13:38.399
like I have the gun ready because I'm
0:13:37.139,0:13:40.019
thinking this thing's like get up and
0:13:38.399,0:13:42.000
run off something better you know it
0:13:40.019,0:13:44.459
can't be that you know after all this
0:13:42.000,0:13:47.820
suffering for six seven years it cannot
0:13:44.459,0:13:50.220
be have been that easy right and uh I
0:13:47.820,0:13:52.500
walk over a coyote's dead
0:13:50.220,0:13:54.480
and I walked off the distance three
0:13:52.500,0:13:56.579
different times and I I'm a shorter guy
0:13:54.480,0:13:58.860
if anyone who's seen me help with John
0:13:56.579,0:14:01.680
Collins you know I'm a shorter guy but
0:13:58.860,0:14:03.180
uh I stretched out my legs and walked
0:14:01.680,0:14:06.360
this thing off and it was well over 80
0:14:03.180,0:14:10.440
Paces man and uh
0:14:06.360,0:14:11.940
so uh for a shotgun oh and I'm gonna
0:14:10.440,0:14:14.700
tell you this with that double uh I've
0:14:11.940,0:14:17.820
never been able to put uh more than one
0:14:14.700,0:14:19.560
pellet in that same uh space at that
0:14:17.820,0:14:23.220
distance ever again and it was the
0:14:19.560,0:14:24.899
miracle shot of Miracle shots and um and
0:14:23.220,0:14:27.120
so the Lord was shining down on me that
0:14:24.899,0:14:31.680
morning but uh
0:14:27.120,0:14:34.079
oh yeah and uh so I basically you know I
0:14:31.680,0:14:37.740
mean just took every took a zillion
0:14:34.079,0:14:39.240
pictures of it and I'm super excited uh
0:14:37.740,0:14:41.160
and
0:14:39.240,0:14:42.839
um well like I said I posted on that
0:14:41.160,0:14:45.480
forum and people were polite but they're
0:14:42.839,0:14:49.320
like you must mean 80 feet not 80 yards
0:14:45.480,0:14:51.180
because you know so I drew a cartoon uh
0:14:49.320,0:14:53.100
this coyote up in heaven he's kind of
0:14:51.180,0:14:54.899
upset with God it was God's thing the
0:14:53.100,0:14:57.060
Coyote's going out here like 80 yards
0:14:54.899,0:15:00.959
with a shotgun that's how I had to die
0:14:57.060,0:15:02.760
and you know and so the minute I posted
0:15:00.959,0:15:04.560
that people just they don't think that
0:15:02.760,0:15:07.199
that's funny and about it the story but
0:15:04.560,0:15:10.440
that uh one of the things you know for
0:15:07.199,0:15:11.699
me learning looking back on that was is
0:15:10.440,0:15:14.959
that um
0:15:11.699,0:15:18.600
you know uh just reevaluating each stand
0:15:14.959,0:15:20.519
uh I was lucky on that situation I'm
0:15:18.600,0:15:21.839
glad I you know in retrospect that I
0:15:20.519,0:15:24.000
went with a shotgun because a lot of
0:15:21.839,0:15:25.800
times trying to get a rifle up to your
0:15:24.000,0:15:28.500
shoulder if it's laying down or if it's
0:15:25.800,0:15:29.820
you know unavailable you don't a lot of
0:15:28.500,0:15:32.399
times don't even have I mean we've been
0:15:29.820,0:15:35.160
on stance we're I'm glad I had that butt
0:15:32.399,0:15:37.079
or that gun up in my shoulder because it
0:15:35.160,0:15:39.600
popped up out of nowhere and
0:15:37.079,0:15:43.320
you got a nail second to find that spot
0:15:39.600,0:15:45.300
and so um hey the first the very first
0:15:43.320,0:15:46.980
stand me and you were successful on we
0:15:45.300,0:15:49.500
had a situation like that where was
0:15:46.980,0:15:51.600
Colin it's uh little small crop bottom
0:15:49.500,0:15:53.760
field and had a big Hillside to her left
0:15:51.600,0:15:55.500
which was was wooded and had a Little
0:15:53.760,0:15:56.940
Thicket there on the edge and we were
0:15:55.500,0:15:58.320
looking around in front of us into the
0:15:56.940,0:15:59.459
right and all of a sudden I kept moving
0:15:58.320,0:16:02.040
out of the corner of my eye and guess
0:15:59.459,0:16:04.800
what what coyotes what 50 yards maybe
0:16:02.040,0:16:06.360
come screaming out so yeah if you had to
0:16:04.800,0:16:08.220
bid on the ready right there it probably
0:16:06.360,0:16:09.660
wouldn't have turned out too good yeah
0:16:08.220,0:16:11.279
and so I mean for me it's been one of
0:16:09.660,0:16:14.100
those things in through the years of me
0:16:11.279,0:16:14.940
doing this and again it's it you you
0:16:14.100,0:16:16.699
know
0:16:14.940,0:16:19.199
it's good
0:16:16.699,0:16:20.339
luck favors the prepared but there's
0:16:19.199,0:16:21.660
always something that's going to be an
0:16:20.339,0:16:24.060
element I mean I just had a hunt with
0:16:21.660,0:16:25.560
Tori cook where we had a coyote back
0:16:24.060,0:16:29.339
doors and I literally had to swim
0:16:25.560,0:16:31.079
left-handed and uh so anything to my
0:16:29.339,0:16:33.540
left I mean it could be a submarine I'm
0:16:31.079,0:16:35.880
gonna have a hard time hitting it and uh
0:16:33.540,0:16:37.980
I have practically falling out of my
0:16:35.880,0:16:40.980
chair trying to Pivot around to get this
0:16:37.980,0:16:42.420
coyote and I got it but it was uh a lot
0:16:40.980,0:16:45.060
of times it just is one of the
0:16:42.420,0:16:46.560
situations where you want you know you
0:16:45.060,0:16:48.480
have to when you're doing a setup like
0:16:46.560,0:16:50.040
that you got to know your swing where
0:16:48.480,0:16:53.040
you think the Coyote's going to come in
0:16:50.040,0:16:54.480
but there is a high potential that the
0:16:53.040,0:16:56.399
Coyote's going to come in where you
0:16:54.480,0:16:59.940
don't want them to come in and you got
0:16:56.399,0:17:01.139
to be prepared for that and um but and
0:16:59.940,0:17:02.279
the funny thing is like you're mentioned
0:17:01.139,0:17:04.439
home with you you know one of the things
0:17:02.279,0:17:06.839
I found out very quickly with hunting
0:17:04.439,0:17:10.260
with buddies of mine who've lived in
0:17:06.839,0:17:12.360
rural setups most of her life is and
0:17:10.260,0:17:15.120
this is embarrassing to admit uh again
0:17:12.360,0:17:16.620
my eyesight it must be horrible I mean I
0:17:15.120,0:17:18.959
go to the eye doctors they tell me I
0:17:16.620,0:17:21.660
don't need glasses but I go hunting with
0:17:18.959,0:17:24.480
you and uh Hunter with
0:17:21.660,0:17:26.040
Tori has made made measures uh Tom
0:17:24.480,0:17:27.660
Austin a couple other guys who are like
0:17:26.040,0:17:29.460
do you not see that coyote like I have
0:17:27.660,0:17:31.260
no idea what you're talking about I'll
0:17:29.460,0:17:33.419
be in my eyes will be peeled wide open
0:17:31.260,0:17:35.940
there is a kind of coming in well I
0:17:33.419,0:17:38.760
don't see what you're talking about uh
0:17:35.940,0:17:40.620
and so in you know Chicago my field of
0:17:38.760,0:17:43.500
vision usually is one block or two
0:17:40.620,0:17:45.240
blocks away right right and uh to have
0:17:43.500,0:17:46.799
people like you or different guys like
0:17:45.240,0:17:48.360
hey man there's a cab coming 300 Euros
0:17:46.799,0:17:51.120
to me I don't know if I could see a full
0:17:48.360,0:17:52.679
Pro I don't get 300 yards definitely got
0:17:51.120,0:17:55.799
to get your eyes adjusted for your
0:17:52.679,0:17:58.380
training yeah and uh and you guys are
0:17:55.799,0:17:59.160
picking out like ears tails you know
0:17:58.380,0:18:00.840
what I mean
0:17:59.160,0:18:02.760
I have a I had a buddy of mine one time
0:18:00.840,0:18:04.260
it was like we're hunting open field and
0:18:02.760,0:18:06.240
he says Kyle coming right down the
0:18:04.260,0:18:08.220
middle field but I'm like straight well
0:18:06.240,0:18:10.679
there was a drainage ditch
0:18:08.220,0:18:11.940
and in The Middle's field and because of
0:18:10.679,0:18:14.700
the brush and stuff you can see he
0:18:11.940,0:18:17.160
picked out the ears running right
0:18:14.700,0:18:19.440
and literally he's like getting position
0:18:17.160,0:18:22.380
get ready I dropped down I still do not
0:18:19.440,0:18:23.940
see this invisible coyote and 30 yards
0:18:22.380,0:18:25.140
in front of this thing jumped right out
0:18:23.940,0:18:28.140
of this drainage ditch right in front of
0:18:25.140,0:18:31.440
me and because I was prepared I made the
0:18:28.140,0:18:33.179
shot and and got the coyote but had I
0:18:31.440,0:18:35.520
just been by myself kind of just
0:18:33.179,0:18:38.400
chilling and spacing out that cow
0:18:35.520,0:18:39.840
probably gotten away and right and so
0:18:38.400,0:18:41.880
yeah it's good to be with somebody who
0:18:39.840,0:18:43.320
actually has some decent decent Vision
0:18:41.880,0:18:44.940
when you're hunting because a lot of
0:18:43.320,0:18:47.700
times and it's always made me wonder
0:18:44.940,0:18:50.640
like how many people come through that
0:18:47.700,0:18:52.620
you didn't see didn't see or saw me
0:18:50.640,0:18:54.120
before you know and and I don't want to
0:18:52.620,0:18:55.380
know the number I don't ever want to
0:18:54.120,0:18:58.080
know the number because I'm sure it's a
0:18:55.380,0:19:00.000
very high number but uh but you know for
0:18:58.080,0:19:01.440
me again it's once you get that
0:19:00.000,0:19:03.720
connection
0:19:01.440,0:19:06.059
uh on an animal like that and especially
0:19:03.720,0:19:08.580
a coyote because they are just such an
0:19:06.059,0:19:12.059
amazing creature to hunt it's all worth
0:19:08.580,0:19:15.240
the suffering it's all worth the uh I
0:19:12.059,0:19:16.860
mean the Elation and the uh and most
0:19:15.240,0:19:18.780
people don't you know most people who
0:19:16.860,0:19:20.100
haven't Kyle hunted us uh don't
0:19:18.780,0:19:21.240
understand this matter of fact actually
0:19:20.100,0:19:24.840
I think it's one of the very first times
0:19:21.240,0:19:27.240
I came down to visit you I stopped at a
0:19:24.840,0:19:28.679
uh like a McDonald's or something I was
0:19:27.240,0:19:29.880
asking for directions to get to your
0:19:28.679,0:19:32.160
house and
0:19:29.880,0:19:34.200
when the kid recognized that I didn't
0:19:32.160,0:19:35.880
have a accent he's like where are you
0:19:34.200,0:19:37.260
from I'm from Chicago that's what you
0:19:35.880,0:19:38.580
doing out here it's like well I'll come
0:19:37.260,0:19:40.500
down here to some Kyle he's like you
0:19:38.580,0:19:42.419
drove all the way from Chicago to a
0:19:40.500,0:19:44.280
coyote hunt and I looked him right in
0:19:42.419,0:19:47.340
the ass because clearly you've never cut
0:19:44.280,0:19:49.260
it hunted before you know once you do
0:19:47.340,0:19:51.120
you get in the car you drive pretty much
0:19:49.260,0:19:52.860
anywhere in the country you know you
0:19:51.120,0:19:54.360
know because it's just that exciting it
0:19:52.860,0:19:56.100
definitely has a way to get into your
0:19:54.360,0:19:59.700
blood and just like you said on that
0:19:56.100,0:20:01.260
that first successful stand uh you know
0:19:59.700,0:20:03.720
I'm pretty sure I can speak for you
0:20:01.260,0:20:06.240
probably kind of changed your life you
0:20:03.720,0:20:08.340
know oh no absolutely and
0:20:06.240,0:20:09.360
um you know the the best way I've seen
0:20:08.340,0:20:11.340
it you know there's a lot of guys when
0:20:09.360,0:20:15.179
you talk to guys who are into hunting
0:20:11.340,0:20:18.000
guys generally I'd say 80 to 90 of guys
0:20:15.179,0:20:19.440
I mean they prioritize their species you
0:20:18.000,0:20:21.660
know and there's guys who like they'll
0:20:19.440,0:20:24.120
say they hunt coyotes but really they're
0:20:21.660,0:20:26.940
more deer hunter they're more Goose you
0:20:24.120,0:20:29.940
know whatever right and coyotes Predator
0:20:26.940,0:20:33.000
season used to usually is a uh secondary
0:20:29.940,0:20:35.400
right if nothing else is going on and
0:20:33.000,0:20:37.020
there's a guy I read years ago online he
0:20:35.400,0:20:38.640
said oh you want to know what kind of
0:20:37.020,0:20:41.100
cat Hunter I am I'm the kind of guy that
0:20:38.640,0:20:43.320
push away a mature Buck out of the way
0:20:41.100,0:20:45.200
just so I can shoot a a coyote come
0:20:43.320,0:20:47.700
Runner into the call you know
0:20:45.200,0:20:49.980
after that yeah exactly I was like yep
0:20:47.700,0:20:51.720
that pretty much defines me like I I
0:20:49.980,0:20:53.280
wouldn't pass up deer hunting but if
0:20:51.720,0:20:55.320
somebody said I had an option to go deer
0:20:53.280,0:20:57.900
hunting or cowling I took out in any day
0:20:55.320,0:21:01.020
and oh I actually get asked that a lot
0:20:57.900,0:21:03.539
uh I've been asked normal numerous times
0:21:01.020,0:21:05.039
if you can only hunt one species species
0:21:03.539,0:21:06.539
of animal for risk your life what's it
0:21:05.039,0:21:09.900
going to be and I don't even have it
0:21:06.539,0:21:12.660
it's it's coyotes yeah they'll look at
0:21:09.900,0:21:16.080
you like are you serious like I take the
0:21:12.660,0:21:17.760
coyotes yeah and again I think that most
0:21:16.080,0:21:18.960
the people and and I think one of the
0:21:17.760,0:21:21.419
things that was interesting to me is
0:21:18.960,0:21:23.100
yeah talking to people who even in rural
0:21:21.419,0:21:24.240
areas down in our property the farmers
0:21:23.100,0:21:26.940
would always kind of scratch your head
0:21:24.240,0:21:28.380
because they would see coyotes a lot of
0:21:26.940,0:21:30.480
time but it was usually when they were
0:21:28.380,0:21:32.039
driving around their truck right uh they
0:21:30.480,0:21:34.500
did they didn't look at them as an
0:21:32.039,0:21:35.640
animal that was really Savvy in the way
0:21:34.500,0:21:38.159
because they didn't you know they didn't
0:21:35.640,0:21:40.799
bother to hunt them uh and I told them I
0:21:38.159,0:21:42.240
said you know coyotes have gundar that's
0:21:40.799,0:21:45.360
why I call it a joke and we call it
0:21:42.240,0:21:48.120
gundark because they know you don't got
0:21:45.360,0:21:49.919
a gun you know I was like uh you're in
0:21:48.120,0:21:51.480
your truck or you're in your combine
0:21:49.919,0:21:54.600
they'll just walk right out in front of
0:21:51.480,0:21:56.100
you and uh my wife and I had that happen
0:21:54.600,0:21:57.780
several times we've been on this piece
0:21:56.100,0:22:00.179
of property and I'd hunt for cats in the
0:21:57.780,0:22:01.880
morning and in the afternoon we'd go on
0:22:00.179,0:22:04.260
a Four Mile Walk together
0:22:01.880,0:22:05.940
okay I can't tell you how many times we
0:22:04.260,0:22:07.799
have class walked right in my wife would
0:22:05.940,0:22:10.440
look at me like you were the worst gold
0:22:07.799,0:22:12.960
runner ever you can't kill these things
0:22:10.440,0:22:15.260
well you know the next guy we went on a
0:22:12.960,0:22:18.120
walk I had a rifle on my shoulder
0:22:15.260,0:22:21.240
yeah never seen another kid I was like
0:22:18.120,0:22:23.700
oh my gosh so again it just adds that
0:22:21.240,0:22:27.000
much more of an element to me of the The
0:22:23.700,0:22:28.679
Thrill of the hunt and and I know that a
0:22:27.000,0:22:31.020
lot of times when people will see me
0:22:28.679,0:22:32.940
holding the coyote up or I know you'll
0:22:31.020,0:22:34.559
you'll agree with this too
0:22:32.940,0:22:37.020
a lot of people who haven't hunt them
0:22:34.559,0:22:39.240
they'll see you holding up uh a coyote
0:22:37.020,0:22:40.919
or a couple coyotes and what they they
0:22:39.240,0:22:44.100
want to do is they want to be a part of
0:22:40.919,0:22:47.280
that moment but they don't understand
0:22:44.100,0:22:48.780
the math on that moment when you're
0:22:47.280,0:22:51.659
holding up that cow that coyote
0:22:48.780,0:22:53.340
represents x amount of dollars in gas x
0:22:51.659,0:22:56.820
amount of dollars in
0:22:53.340,0:23:00.600
uh Blood Sweat and Tears exactly exactly
0:22:56.820,0:23:02.520
money for uh you know as much money it
0:23:00.600,0:23:05.640
kind of don't matter if he's shot with a
0:23:02.520,0:23:08.340
a three thousand dollar gun or a 150 gun
0:23:05.640,0:23:09.840
he don't care but uh you can spend as
0:23:08.340,0:23:12.240
much as you want that's another thing I
0:23:09.840,0:23:14.039
learned pretty quickly was
0:23:12.240,0:23:15.960
um there are products that will help you
0:23:14.039,0:23:18.000
and there's a lot there's the ones that
0:23:15.960,0:23:19.740
it you know and I would always think
0:23:18.000,0:23:22.200
like oh if I just had this one thing
0:23:19.740,0:23:24.600
right right the cows will come screaming
0:23:22.200,0:23:26.760
in no the number one
0:23:24.600,0:23:28.320
yeah and the number one thing that most
0:23:26.760,0:23:30.720
people and that's just you get this by
0:23:28.320,0:23:34.500
learning through suffering or listening
0:23:30.720,0:23:36.480
to the professionals is woodsmanship yep
0:23:34.500,0:23:38.760
um knowing that you know when you walk
0:23:36.480,0:23:41.520
into a stand and the number one thing is
0:23:38.760,0:23:43.500
when oh yeah the direction and for sure
0:23:41.520,0:23:46.020
I don't care if you got five thousand
0:23:43.500,0:23:49.919
dollars worth of products on you uh Kyle
0:23:46.020,0:23:51.360
is not going to uh and you play the best
0:23:49.919,0:23:54.059
songs of the world he ain't gonna come
0:23:51.360,0:23:58.140
in if he smells you he's he's gone and
0:23:54.059,0:24:00.720
uh and so just knowing how to uh make
0:23:58.140,0:24:04.080
use the tools that are available I mean
0:24:00.720,0:24:05.760
obviously uh you know Foxpro is the uh
0:24:04.080,0:24:08.100
number one tool for me when I'm out
0:24:05.760,0:24:11.700
there in the field is knowing my calls
0:24:08.100,0:24:12.419
and uh I run a fox Pro Fusion and
0:24:11.700,0:24:17.940
um
0:24:12.419,0:24:19.980
but again it's a tool in a complex uh
0:24:17.940,0:24:21.419
puzzle that you have to put together is
0:24:19.980,0:24:24.480
best to get to your advantage because
0:24:21.419,0:24:26.520
you know with coyotes it's and and I
0:24:24.480,0:24:27.960
mean to me they are an apex creature for
0:24:26.520,0:24:29.640
a reason but even with amongst the
0:24:27.960,0:24:32.460
coyotes there are just like human beings
0:24:29.640,0:24:35.280
there's dumb ones I've had I like the
0:24:32.460,0:24:37.980
dumb ones yeah oh yeah give me them all
0:24:35.280,0:24:40.799
day long you know but uh I mean I've had
0:24:37.980,0:24:42.840
cats come in upwind yeah of the call
0:24:40.799,0:24:45.600
I've had coyotes just burst out anyhow
0:24:42.840,0:24:46.980
you realize they're just the the ones
0:24:45.600,0:24:49.380
that ain't gonna last long so you might
0:24:46.980,0:24:52.860
as well help out the hurt roster and get
0:24:49.380,0:24:55.200
them thinned out but uh they um and so
0:24:52.860,0:24:56.520
for me again and and you know the coyote
0:24:55.200,0:24:59.400
thing is like you said it gets in your
0:24:56.520,0:25:02.100
blood and it's uh and so for me A lot of
0:24:59.400,0:25:04.020
times when I'm uh and I've had other
0:25:02.100,0:25:06.720
cartoonist professional cartoons give me
0:25:04.020,0:25:08.940
a hard time like man you surely drive a
0:25:06.720,0:25:10.260
lot of curtains about coyotes and they
0:25:08.940,0:25:12.179
don't get it either you know they're
0:25:10.260,0:25:14.520
like what you know and I'm like well
0:25:12.179,0:25:16.679
once it gets in your blood it's a lot
0:25:14.520,0:25:18.539
what you think about you know it's like
0:25:16.679,0:25:19.919
uh and so I'm a lot of times just
0:25:18.539,0:25:22.980
thinking about
0:25:19.919,0:25:26.880
um how to translate a funny situation to
0:25:22.980,0:25:29.580
Coyote and uh and so
0:25:26.880,0:25:30.900
you know it's uh it's I draw a lot of
0:25:29.580,0:25:32.220
coyote cartoons because I'm usually
0:25:30.900,0:25:34.260
thinking about if I'm not hunting
0:25:32.220,0:25:35.279
coyotes I'm thinking behind them and
0:25:34.260,0:25:40.020
while I'm hunting them I'm thinking
0:25:35.279,0:25:42.960
about them right exactly right and uh
0:25:40.020,0:25:44.820
um and like I said it's uh and Beyond
0:25:42.960,0:25:46.140
the cat hunting and for me it's been the
0:25:44.820,0:25:49.320
one of the biggest blessings with
0:25:46.140,0:25:51.480
cartooning and uh the co uh hunting is
0:25:49.320,0:25:55.020
just meeting some of the nicest people
0:25:51.480,0:25:57.299
uh I know that about I don't know six
0:25:55.020,0:25:59.400
seven years ago the organization I
0:25:57.299,0:26:01.020
worked for had to sell that property and
0:25:59.400,0:26:02.340
I was pretty bummed I talked to my wife
0:26:01.020,0:26:04.559
I said you know we're living in the
0:26:02.340,0:26:06.360
interstate of Chicago hunting and
0:26:04.559,0:26:09.360
fishing is a pretty big part of my life
0:26:06.360,0:26:11.520
don't know if I can you know be nestled
0:26:09.360,0:26:13.020
in the inner city for you know and be
0:26:11.520,0:26:15.480
and missing out of that and my wife
0:26:13.020,0:26:16.799
she's the the calm and Collective person
0:26:15.480,0:26:18.360
and she's like well it's just you know
0:26:16.799,0:26:20.039
probably about to see what the Lord
0:26:18.360,0:26:21.900
opens the doors and literally within
0:26:20.039,0:26:24.059
about a month or two you were one of the
0:26:21.900,0:26:26.279
very first people that said hey man you
0:26:24.059,0:26:27.539
want to come on down I'll I'll come on
0:26:26.279,0:26:28.919
down for a few days let's go Kyle
0:26:27.539,0:26:31.200
hunting
0:26:28.919,0:26:33.480
my wife was mortified because she's uh
0:26:31.200,0:26:36.059
she's uh more of an introvert and she's
0:26:33.480,0:26:38.220
like you're gonna drive to some place
0:26:36.059,0:26:40.919
you don't know to hunt with somebody you
0:26:38.220,0:26:42.840
don't know oh yeah she's like does his
0:26:40.919,0:26:45.539
wife know like you know it's like is his
0:26:42.840,0:26:46.980
wife and so she's like you don't know
0:26:45.539,0:26:49.380
these people and I was like honey you
0:26:46.980,0:26:51.120
know I don't care they're inviting me to
0:26:49.380,0:26:52.440
go Kyle hunting baby you know and uh
0:26:51.120,0:26:53.640
she's like you know what if they're
0:26:52.440,0:26:55.700
weirdos are like well I live in the
0:26:53.640,0:26:57.840
University of Chicago
0:26:55.700,0:27:01.140
you're probably right about that part
0:26:57.840,0:27:03.480
about the weirdo yeah and so uh you know
0:27:01.140,0:27:04.919
for me it's I've literally never had an
0:27:03.480,0:27:06.120
experience since then I mean I've gotten
0:27:04.919,0:27:08.580
a chance I've had people open their
0:27:06.120,0:27:10.620
doors and let me stay they've invited me
0:27:08.580,0:27:15.080
all over the country everywhere from
0:27:10.620,0:27:19.679
California Texas uh Kentucky uh Arkansas
0:27:15.080,0:27:21.480
Mississippi uh you know all over and uh
0:27:19.679,0:27:22.679
never had a situation where I got oh
0:27:21.480,0:27:26.460
this is a bad idea I mean just the
0:27:22.679,0:27:28.559
nicest people treat me like royalty and
0:27:26.460,0:27:31.440
uh great memories laughing telling
0:27:28.559,0:27:33.539
stories and mating just great people and
0:27:31.440,0:27:35.760
be able to draw cartoons room and so
0:27:33.539,0:27:37.140
I've been super like I just pinch myself
0:27:35.760,0:27:39.779
because honestly got you because I feel
0:27:37.140,0:27:42.600
like I live an amazing an amazing life
0:27:39.779,0:27:44.220
so you you've definitely become you know
0:27:42.600,0:27:46.320
well traveled and several different
0:27:44.220,0:27:48.840
states do you have a do you have a
0:27:46.320,0:27:50.640
favorite state that you like to hunt
0:27:48.840,0:27:52.559
uh well the ones with the most dumb
0:27:50.640,0:27:55.140
coyotes which I'm still not sure which
0:27:52.559,0:27:57.240
one that totally is but you know it's uh
0:27:55.140,0:28:00.240
and that's another thing too that I've
0:27:57.240,0:28:01.159
really been intrigued about is is
0:28:00.240,0:28:04.799
um
0:28:01.159,0:28:06.960
they every place I hunt everyone has
0:28:04.799,0:28:09.480
their own way of hunting right and I've
0:28:06.960,0:28:11.340
almost really I honestly wrote one of my
0:28:09.480,0:28:13.799
big regrets is that I have not kept a
0:28:11.340,0:28:15.480
journal and I probably could sit down
0:28:13.799,0:28:17.279
and write it all out I've written I've
0:28:15.480,0:28:18.900
actually translated these a lot into
0:28:17.279,0:28:21.480
hunting stories that I've submitted to
0:28:18.900,0:28:23.640
magazines and stuff but you know every
0:28:21.480,0:28:26.400
person that I've hunted with has a
0:28:23.640,0:28:28.200
different Theory uh and you and I have
0:28:26.400,0:28:31.260
talked about this is that even down to
0:28:28.200,0:28:32.760
not just uh uh sounds like I have a
0:28:31.260,0:28:35.880
buddy of mine in California he will not
0:28:32.760,0:28:39.120
run anything other than uh bird distress
0:28:35.880,0:28:42.000
zones right and this guy kills a ton of
0:28:39.120,0:28:44.880
coyotes but he won't use vocals he won't
0:28:42.000,0:28:48.720
use uh rabbit sounds he just uses Fox
0:28:44.880,0:28:50.520
Pro porn bird sound so yeah and it's
0:28:48.720,0:28:52.080
just his thing that's he's not he's not
0:28:50.520,0:28:52.940
shaming anyone else who does anything
0:28:52.080,0:28:55.200
different
0:28:52.940,0:28:57.600
founder groove it works for him and he
0:28:55.200,0:28:58.799
keeps rolling with it and but you know
0:28:57.600,0:29:00.299
one of the funniest things for me is
0:28:58.799,0:29:02.100
like hunting with each person and how
0:29:00.299,0:29:03.720
they and I have to be adaptable you know
0:29:02.100,0:29:06.299
and there's situations where I help
0:29:03.720,0:29:08.760
people like uh uh you know and they have
0:29:06.299,0:29:10.980
specific calibers going on with like my
0:29:08.760,0:29:14.760
my buddy Joey work done in in Southern
0:29:10.980,0:29:15.720
Illinois anything under a uh
0:29:14.760,0:29:17.640
um
0:29:15.720,0:29:20.159
two two four uh
0:29:17.640,0:29:21.779
uh 243 I'm sorry uh you know he don't
0:29:20.159,0:29:23.820
want you to hunt with him you know he's
0:29:21.779,0:29:25.679
like he wants to drop this put that
0:29:23.820,0:29:28.320
coyote in half he don't want to go blood
0:29:25.679,0:29:30.000
trailing it he don't want to you know uh
0:29:28.320,0:29:31.620
but then we've had the joke and it's
0:29:30.000,0:29:33.299
caused some controversy for me with
0:29:31.620,0:29:35.340
people right I've made jokes about
0:29:33.299,0:29:37.679
people hunting with a 17 caliber and I
0:29:35.340,0:29:39.179
know people kill coyotes I think I've
0:29:37.679,0:29:42.600
actually I think I've actually got a
0:29:39.179,0:29:44.640
couple cartoons from you yeah yeah and
0:29:42.600,0:29:46.980
that's the thing is like for me I it's
0:29:44.640,0:29:50.880
more just the joke of the controversy
0:29:46.980,0:29:52.679
about it to me that's right yep it's not
0:29:50.880,0:29:55.200
like I'm telling people what you know
0:29:52.679,0:29:56.880
whatever but I've gotten people so upset
0:29:55.200,0:29:58.860
with me and messaging me saying ugly
0:29:56.880,0:30:00.299
things about me and and I usually just
0:29:58.860,0:30:02.460
turn around and laughing I don't take it
0:30:00.299,0:30:04.260
personal and I don't I'm not there to be
0:30:02.460,0:30:07.200
rude or ugly I'm just trying to make a
0:30:04.260,0:30:08.820
joke and but uh and each person like I
0:30:07.200,0:30:11.580
had a buddy of my husband when we get on
0:30:08.820,0:30:12.960
stand he literally would sit for 15
0:30:11.580,0:30:15.720
minutes in the silence before we turn
0:30:12.960,0:30:17.520
the call on yeah 15 minutes like I'm
0:30:15.720,0:30:19.740
ready to go to the next stand you know
0:30:17.520,0:30:22.320
and uh
0:30:19.740,0:30:25.140
yeah and so uh then again you know
0:30:22.320,0:30:27.360
hunting with people like Tori done and
0:30:25.140,0:30:29.640
uh southeast Arkansas where it's like
0:30:27.360,0:30:32.279
you could barely see 15 feet in front of
0:30:29.640,0:30:34.320
you because it's so thick uh
0:30:32.279,0:30:36.600
uh you know we're hunting I literally a
0:30:34.320,0:30:37.980
couple weeks ago had a coyote run within
0:30:36.600,0:30:40.140
six feet of me
0:30:37.980,0:30:41.760
um it was like felt like I was in a
0:30:40.140,0:30:44.039
western you know it was just you know
0:30:41.760,0:30:45.840
shooting all over the place too you know
0:30:44.039,0:30:47.580
I've already I've already heard you
0:30:45.840,0:30:49.919
stories from being down there last week
0:30:47.580,0:30:51.080
I talked to Tori the other day oh okay
0:30:49.919,0:30:54.360
yeah
0:30:51.080,0:30:56.820
oh my gosh those were the worst shooting
0:30:54.360,0:31:00.059
streaks I I he's got on film it's
0:30:56.820,0:31:02.820
embarrassing he said you shot 300 for
0:31:00.059,0:31:04.380
the shotgun oh yeah I mean Apex is
0:31:02.820,0:31:07.020
probably thrilled I mean they're gonna
0:31:04.380,0:31:09.899
be you know it's like I'm the I'm the
0:31:07.020,0:31:11.640
shell burner man it was like uh
0:31:09.899,0:31:13.799
um but I it was one of those things
0:31:11.640,0:31:15.299
where it's like so horrible and of
0:31:13.799,0:31:16.559
course you know you think the missing
0:31:15.299,0:31:17.580
and Al Qaeda is the worst thing in the
0:31:16.559,0:31:19.440
world but you know what's the worse than
0:31:17.580,0:31:22.260
missing that cat someone filming you
0:31:19.440,0:31:24.899
missing on a coyote and not just once
0:31:22.260,0:31:27.659
but like multiple times to the point
0:31:24.899,0:31:29.760
where I I literally was like either I'm
0:31:27.659,0:31:31.679
about to snap this gun over my knee or
0:31:29.760,0:31:35.039
quit this whole entire I was questioning
0:31:31.679,0:31:37.260
my life choices and uh Tori got back we
0:31:35.039,0:31:38.820
got back to his place and we cited it in
0:31:37.260,0:31:40.559
and he's like it ain't your best done
0:31:38.820,0:31:42.179
it's you he says you're dropping it he
0:31:40.559,0:31:44.460
said I watched you you're dropping
0:31:42.179,0:31:46.919
you're flinching I hadn't been shooting
0:31:44.460,0:31:48.960
my gun for a while so I just I guess so
0:31:46.919,0:31:50.039
he gave me a box of junk shells and I
0:31:48.960,0:31:52.020
sat out there in the back of my house
0:31:50.039,0:31:54.059
and just shot for an hour saw just like
0:31:52.020,0:31:57.179
I'm gonna get back into this getting
0:31:54.059,0:31:59.820
that trigger time back in yeah and uh
0:31:57.179,0:32:02.580
yeah next day I redeemed myself with a
0:31:59.820,0:32:05.520
triple my first triple and uh
0:32:02.580,0:32:06.840
and so you know for me it's just uh but
0:32:05.520,0:32:09.059
again like that's the kind of things
0:32:06.840,0:32:11.760
like you know the friendships you build
0:32:09.059,0:32:13.799
with people where you can uh laugh with
0:32:11.760,0:32:17.640
each other times a victory and laugh at
0:32:13.799,0:32:21.299
each other at times of absolute agony uh
0:32:17.640,0:32:24.179
you know messes and um
0:32:21.299,0:32:25.980
um you know falling Tori also on that
0:32:24.179,0:32:28.380
same stain of the trip well I lost my
0:32:25.980,0:32:32.820
balance and went right down into a down
0:32:28.380,0:32:33.899
a hill into a Briar Patch and uh these
0:32:32.820,0:32:36.779
are probably gonna get on America's
0:32:33.899,0:32:38.760
Funniest on videos you know but uh
0:32:36.779,0:32:40.799
um but you know it's the kind of stuff
0:32:38.760,0:32:42.600
that you will not forget the rest of
0:32:40.799,0:32:45.720
your life these times and things you've
0:32:42.600,0:32:47.880
been able to experience and uh
0:32:45.720,0:32:50.880
um and so for me like I said super
0:32:47.880,0:32:52.320
grateful and uh well now that's now I'm
0:32:50.880,0:32:54.600
gonna stop you right there now see
0:32:52.320,0:32:57.419
that's that's the that's the politician
0:32:54.600,0:33:00.299
answer I want to know so you talked
0:32:57.419,0:33:01.580
around I want to hear the state what's
0:33:00.299,0:33:04.340
your favorite
0:33:01.580,0:33:06.779
I want to hear you say it
0:33:04.340,0:33:09.120
that's what so you did what a politician
0:33:06.779,0:33:12.140
does they take it they take the
0:33:09.120,0:33:14.700
questions yeah start dancing around it
0:33:12.140,0:33:16.200
call me a ball test in Chicago that's
0:33:14.700,0:33:18.779
one of the ugliest things someone call
0:33:16.200,0:33:20.279
me man but uh I have to say it's a
0:33:18.779,0:33:22.620
pretty interesting answer and I like it
0:33:20.279,0:33:25.559
but I still want to know what is your
0:33:22.620,0:33:28.559
favorite state that you've hunted in
0:33:25.559,0:33:30.000
I gotta say I'm trying to think here now
0:33:28.559,0:33:33.539
uh
0:33:30.000,0:33:36.240
I mean to me honestly I truth is I uh
0:33:33.539,0:33:38.460
the best probably time I had as far as
0:33:36.240,0:33:40.740
uh numbers and and really kind of stuff
0:33:38.460,0:33:42.840
is Southern Missouri was probably one of
0:33:40.740,0:33:45.059
my favorite spots and I'd say Kentucky
0:33:42.840,0:33:48.840
comes in second dish with those Hills
0:33:45.059,0:33:51.120
and stuff um and uh again it's I know
0:33:48.840,0:33:52.559
it's the politician answer but I and you
0:33:51.120,0:33:54.299
know if I had to move to a state it
0:33:52.559,0:33:55.919
would be southern Missouri or like
0:33:54.299,0:33:58.320
Kentucky yeah
0:33:55.919,0:34:00.720
um Missouri's got Missouri is a fun
0:33:58.320,0:34:03.179
State uh beautiful country got a lot of
0:34:00.720,0:34:05.399
coyotes got Bobcats too our buddy cord
0:34:03.179,0:34:07.440
you're off silver Missouri and man let's
0:34:05.399,0:34:09.300
see a pile up the stuff good grief oh
0:34:07.440,0:34:11.580
yeah the the one that's so yeah it's so
0:34:09.300,0:34:13.320
bizarre for me because living in
0:34:11.580,0:34:16.440
Illinois where there's barely any
0:34:13.320,0:34:19.379
Bobcats right yeah and then we go over
0:34:16.440,0:34:21.659
to Missouri and just tracks everywhere
0:34:19.379,0:34:23.760
and and that was actually kind of a
0:34:21.659,0:34:25.139
funny thing for you and me because uh I
0:34:23.760,0:34:27.240
don't know how many years ago but I've
0:34:25.139,0:34:29.899
kind of gotten a bit where I was like I
0:34:27.240,0:34:32.760
want to get my first Bible yeah we tried
0:34:29.899,0:34:34.800
you tried to oh you tried to you worked
0:34:32.760,0:34:36.960
hard trying to put me on on and if I
0:34:34.800,0:34:38.879
remember right that one time was the
0:34:36.960,0:34:40.980
Last Stand nothing came in and we got in
0:34:38.879,0:34:42.960
the truck we dropped as we're leaving
0:34:40.980,0:34:44.040
there's a bobcat right on the side of
0:34:42.960,0:34:45.359
the road just looking at me and I think
0:34:44.040,0:34:47.520
he was giving me the finger I couldn't
0:34:45.359,0:34:49.080
remember exactly but it was just Bobcat
0:34:47.520,0:34:50.580
literally standing right on the side of
0:34:49.080,0:34:53.520
the runners we're leaving at a stand
0:34:50.580,0:34:55.879
like oh you you know and uh but that's
0:34:53.520,0:34:59.460
how it is once you decide on something
0:34:55.879,0:35:02.400
and uh you know I I tried for Bobcat in
0:34:59.460,0:35:04.619
Missouri I tried for California I had a
0:35:02.400,0:35:06.900
bunch coming I could never connect
0:35:04.619,0:35:10.020
and finally was down Texas with Wade
0:35:06.900,0:35:13.920
Chandler and uh Allied doors and we're
0:35:10.020,0:35:16.680
doing that high rack hunting yep and uh
0:35:13.920,0:35:19.920
and just uh that's a whole nother Beast
0:35:16.680,0:35:22.500
and um I'm assuming that was your first
0:35:19.920,0:35:24.599
time hunt from a high rack at night oh
0:35:22.500,0:35:26.700
yeah well and yeah and it was totally
0:35:24.599,0:35:28.280
like something right out of uh there
0:35:26.700,0:35:32.040
were tons of cartoon material because
0:35:28.280,0:35:33.599
Wade is uh his amazing host and once he
0:35:32.040,0:35:35.040
found out I hadn't killed Bob gay he was
0:35:33.599,0:35:36.359
committed he was it was like I think we
0:35:35.040,0:35:39.060
were like three in the morning and we
0:35:36.359,0:35:42.660
finally killed my first bobcat but
0:35:39.060,0:35:44.400
um he is a mumbler and his brother Dan
0:35:42.660,0:35:46.619
was there with us and his brother's hard
0:35:44.400,0:35:48.300
of hearing from construction so they
0:35:46.619,0:35:50.220
would be arguing back and forth and his
0:35:48.300,0:35:52.619
brother now what'd he say and I had to
0:35:50.220,0:35:54.980
somehow become the translator and it
0:35:52.619,0:35:58.140
just was like something right out of a
0:35:54.980,0:36:00.240
uh uh Three Stooges let's get you know
0:35:58.140,0:36:02.040
it was hilarious but and again like
0:36:00.240,0:36:03.780
driving around this gorgeous uh High
0:36:02.040,0:36:05.760
rack and
0:36:03.780,0:36:07.260
um you know all the thick brush out
0:36:05.760,0:36:10.440
there and
0:36:07.260,0:36:12.960
um but yeah I like I said I the places
0:36:10.440,0:36:15.540
where I probably had
0:36:12.960,0:36:16.980
the most sightings and just kind of even
0:36:15.540,0:36:18.900
going on there's a couple times I've
0:36:16.980,0:36:20.220
done something in Missouri where my host
0:36:18.900,0:36:21.540
had to go to a funeral at the last
0:36:20.220,0:36:23.339
minute so I had to go out and do some
0:36:21.540,0:36:26.099
solo hunts and I actually had some good
0:36:23.339,0:36:28.800
success so that kind of uh I like the
0:36:26.099,0:36:31.500
idea just the Rolling Hills and the um
0:36:28.800,0:36:34.980
that thick stuff that you could uh pull
0:36:31.500,0:36:37.140
out either a bobcat or a coyote but uh
0:36:34.980,0:36:38.640
um but like I said I mean I need to try
0:36:37.140,0:36:40.680
more States before I come up with a rock
0:36:38.640,0:36:42.720
solid answer so if anyone you know well
0:36:40.680,0:36:44.780
that's a pretty good that's a pretty
0:36:42.720,0:36:47.880
good yeah yeah Georgia South Carolina
0:36:44.780,0:36:49.500
I've been out in uh I've hunted now the
0:36:47.880,0:36:55.200
one problem I'll say with like hunting
0:36:49.500,0:36:58.440
out in Wyoming and Montana for me was
0:36:55.200,0:37:00.300
um distance and just gosh judging
0:36:58.440,0:37:02.640
distance out there is horrible gets me
0:37:00.300,0:37:04.440
all the time out there I I had a cow
0:37:02.640,0:37:06.540
coming in and I stand one time and I
0:37:04.440,0:37:09.180
literally thought it was a fox it was so
0:37:06.540,0:37:10.619
small I thought oh that's just a this is
0:37:09.180,0:37:11.640
I didn't even know there was a seat you
0:37:10.619,0:37:14.160
know I didn't know what the season was
0:37:11.640,0:37:16.500
so I passed on it thinking I said well
0:37:14.160,0:37:19.140
really it was a coyote but he was so
0:37:16.500,0:37:22.020
I I had judged the distance wrong in his
0:37:19.140,0:37:23.880
body size because he was so far away but
0:37:22.020,0:37:25.320
by the time I realized he was a coyote
0:37:23.880,0:37:27.720
he had already got my win
0:37:25.320,0:37:30.660
so I'm like swinging my rifle try to get
0:37:27.720,0:37:33.240
on him and I'm like oh dang it that's a
0:37:30.660,0:37:36.599
coyote you know but you know like I said
0:37:33.240,0:37:38.040
in uh Illinois Missouri even Kentucky
0:37:36.599,0:37:41.160
different places I'm used to something
0:37:38.040,0:37:43.140
under 300 yards right right you're
0:37:41.160,0:37:44.760
seeing coyotes at five six hundred yards
0:37:43.140,0:37:47.099
you can see them coming from a mile out
0:37:44.760,0:37:48.359
these little dots me and Randy Abner was
0:37:47.099,0:37:49.740
actually talking about this a couple
0:37:48.359,0:37:51.960
weeks ago and I was talking about how
0:37:49.740,0:37:54.119
hard it is for me to judge distance out
0:37:51.960,0:37:55.740
in those Western States like Wyoming you
0:37:54.119,0:37:58.020
know and I told him you know I've been
0:37:55.740,0:38:00.119
on I can remember staying I was with my
0:37:58.020,0:38:01.740
brother and he's got he's watching these
0:38:00.119,0:38:04.920
coyotes come and they were coming from
0:38:01.740,0:38:08.160
forever away and uh they finally got up
0:38:04.920,0:38:10.020
there and stopped and you know I I you
0:38:08.160,0:38:12.119
know just rushed a shot I said I need to
0:38:10.020,0:38:13.500
take them out I shoot I hit like a foot
0:38:12.119,0:38:15.780
in front of the deck all thing my
0:38:13.500,0:38:17.579
brother looks over at me says what in
0:38:15.780,0:38:20.280
the world are you doing it things like
0:38:17.579,0:38:22.460
500 yards out there I was like really I
0:38:20.280,0:38:24.839
thought it was like 250.
0:38:22.460,0:38:27.000
and I know that sounds crazy especially
0:38:24.839,0:38:29.520
for people it's out there but live your
0:38:27.000,0:38:31.200
entire life in Chicago Illinois live
0:38:29.520,0:38:32.820
your entire life in the heels and
0:38:31.200,0:38:34.800
hollers of Kentucky they get out there
0:38:32.820,0:38:37.740
to be in Wide Open Spaces it'll it'll
0:38:34.800,0:38:39.540
trick you oh absolutely and you know I'd
0:38:37.740,0:38:41.280
be home with these guys uh well I
0:38:39.540,0:38:44.760
remember hunting with Scott Shreve he's
0:38:41.280,0:38:46.800
on the fox Park great yeah oh yeah and
0:38:44.760,0:38:48.119
uh he was like oh we were kind of
0:38:46.800,0:38:49.920
hunting one morning he goes oh we got
0:38:48.119,0:38:52.140
some at uh about
0:38:49.920,0:38:54.660
just under 500 yards and I mean I'm
0:38:52.140,0:38:57.119
squinting looking as hard like what on
0:38:54.660,0:38:58.440
Earth and and he hands me his binoculars
0:38:57.119,0:39:01.140
and sure enough there's these coyotes
0:38:58.440,0:39:03.300
sitting there on this uh side of this uh
0:39:01.140,0:39:05.700
Hill and he's like you won't take the
0:39:03.300,0:39:10.140
first shot only and I I ain't shot at
0:39:05.700,0:39:12.000
nothing over 300 yards right and uh I
0:39:10.140,0:39:14.220
was like Scott I can't I can't make that
0:39:12.000,0:39:16.920
shot you know I was like uh I'm sure
0:39:14.220,0:39:21.180
somebody again but I can't and uh you
0:39:16.920,0:39:22.920
know my 300 Savage combo you know and
0:39:21.180,0:39:26.520
Scott literally doesn't just get big he
0:39:22.920,0:39:28.320
hands me his custom rifle uh it's like a
0:39:26.520,0:39:30.859
valkyrie I can't remember the caliber
0:39:28.320,0:39:32.579
but I mean this gun
0:39:30.859,0:39:34.920
unbelievable
0:39:32.579,0:39:37.560
doesn't I mean my gun got dropped onto
0:39:34.920,0:39:40.339
the the tundra pretty far onto the
0:39:37.560,0:39:43.560
Tumbleweed pretty fast you know and
0:39:40.339,0:39:45.420
uh and uh you know first time shooting
0:39:43.560,0:39:48.060
suppressed I never got suppressed before
0:39:45.420,0:39:49.380
and so he's moving around sure oh yeah
0:39:48.060,0:39:51.180
and you can't you say you can't have
0:39:49.380,0:39:53.160
nothing fun like that in Illinois anyway
0:39:51.180,0:39:57.000
oh no no no no the only thing here
0:39:53.160,0:40:02.160
illegal is uh is uh bad politician so
0:39:57.000,0:40:05.099
you know it's uh they uh but um and uh
0:40:02.160,0:40:06.780
you know it was just uh again like being
0:40:05.099,0:40:08.780
in those different environments where
0:40:06.780,0:40:11.820
you're having to adjust whether it's a
0:40:08.780,0:40:14.220
470 yard shot which because of his
0:40:11.820,0:40:15.960
amazing rifle I made but then you got
0:40:14.220,0:40:17.820
other situations where you got bigger
0:40:15.960,0:40:19.859
down in southeast Arkansas you got kayas
0:40:17.820,0:40:21.720
running within 10 feet and you're trying
0:40:19.859,0:40:23.940
to swing your gun around and trying to
0:40:21.720,0:40:25.740
get a shot off and and so I was just
0:40:23.940,0:40:28.140
trying to make those adjustments and
0:40:25.740,0:40:31.020
again a lot of it's through suffering
0:40:28.140,0:40:32.940
it's not a for me the day it becomes
0:40:31.020,0:40:36.140
easy it's probably gonna just lose I'll
0:40:32.940,0:40:36.140
lose interest but I doubt
0:40:36.859,0:40:40.380
you've had some pretty good experiences
0:40:39.060,0:40:42.599
there and you've got to hunt different
0:40:40.380,0:40:44.280
corners of the US and you've got to hunt
0:40:42.599,0:40:46.079
several different terrain you know
0:40:44.280,0:40:47.520
different types of terrain and you know
0:40:46.079,0:40:48.839
you'll hear people talk about you know
0:40:47.520,0:40:49.980
they don't hunt anywhere else besides
0:40:48.839,0:40:52.320
their home state there's nothing wrong
0:40:49.980,0:40:54.060
with that but you'll hear them say like
0:40:52.320,0:40:56.460
you know if I could hunt such and so
0:40:54.060,0:40:58.980
plays man I'd pile them up like whatever
0:40:56.460,0:41:01.320
yeah every place every place you go to
0:40:58.980,0:41:04.380
and you've seen this Tim uh from your
0:41:01.320,0:41:06.599
experiences but every single place uh
0:41:04.380,0:41:08.820
has their own set of challenges and a
0:41:06.599,0:41:09.839
lot of times it has to do with the
0:41:08.820,0:41:11.900
terrain like he was down there in
0:41:09.839,0:41:17.220
Arkansas I'm sure you all were hunting
0:41:11.900,0:41:19.200
thick thick Thicket briery jungles and
0:41:17.220,0:41:21.720
then yeah and then you come to a place
0:41:19.200,0:41:24.720
like Kentucky and it's more cattle
0:41:21.720,0:41:26.700
pasture and small acreage crop farms and
0:41:24.720,0:41:28.260
drops off in these deep haulers and it's
0:41:26.700,0:41:30.060
just two different total different
0:41:28.260,0:41:33.420
things then you go out west to Wyoming
0:41:30.060,0:41:36.119
and that uh Sagebrush country then it's
0:41:33.420,0:41:36.960
another whole nother Factor uh then of
0:41:36.119,0:41:38.160
course like he was talking about
0:41:36.960,0:41:39.900
Missouri
0:41:38.160,0:41:41.700
that's kind of like a hybrid between
0:41:39.900,0:41:43.920
your mid your uh you know like the
0:41:41.700,0:41:45.420
Kansas country and Kentucky has got a
0:41:43.920,0:41:47.579
lot of similarities but it's different
0:41:45.420,0:41:48.780
and uh that's pretty cool that you've
0:41:47.579,0:41:50.579
got to travel around and Hunt these
0:41:48.780,0:41:52.320
different of course Texas and Texas like
0:41:50.579,0:41:55.020
a different different world it's like a
0:41:52.320,0:41:56.579
different country but oh yeah well that
0:41:55.020,0:41:59.339
was always an adjustment for me because
0:41:56.579,0:42:02.359
you know being in Illinois uh there's so
0:41:59.339,0:42:06.140
many laws about our guns
0:42:02.359,0:42:09.480
down there is as far as well
0:42:06.140,0:42:11.099
uh Wade pulls up to the airport so I'm
0:42:09.480,0:42:13.140
standing up front and he opens up the
0:42:11.099,0:42:14.640
door of his truck and there's a AR in
0:42:13.140,0:42:16.920
the passenger seat
0:42:14.640,0:42:18.839
I'm pretty sure it's probably loaded oh
0:42:16.920,0:42:20.280
yeah and he was like welcome to Texas
0:42:18.839,0:42:21.599
because he's looking at me looking down
0:42:20.280,0:42:25.800
at that area
0:42:21.599,0:42:27.599
not in a not a case and you know and uh
0:42:25.800,0:42:30.240
you know he uh even when I was in
0:42:27.599,0:42:32.820
Wyoming you know it was like so it's so
0:42:30.240,0:42:35.400
crazy because you get used to different
0:42:32.820,0:42:37.020
uh you know rules we have to abide by
0:42:35.400,0:42:39.440
here like you can't
0:42:37.020,0:42:42.839
you know yeah those areas a lot more
0:42:39.440,0:42:45.480
conservative mind oh yeah well you know
0:42:42.839,0:42:47.820
and I was at Wyoming and uh
0:42:45.480,0:42:50.460
got sure he was like Hey you uh ever
0:42:47.820,0:42:51.720
shoot prairie dogs it was after it was
0:42:50.460,0:42:54.000
like 10 in the morning we were done
0:42:51.720,0:42:55.740
hunting for the day or the morning and
0:42:54.000,0:42:57.420
he's like it's like not in there he goes
0:42:55.740,0:43:00.060
well there's a village out there you
0:42:57.420,0:43:03.119
want to shoot at him and okay and we'll
0:43:00.060,0:43:05.160
just roll the window down uh you know
0:43:03.119,0:43:06.359
and just uh it's just a whole another
0:43:05.160,0:43:08.940
world because there ain't another human
0:43:06.359,0:43:13.680
being for another 10 miles you know and
0:43:08.940,0:43:15.660
uh so uh but like I said and I think
0:43:13.680,0:43:17.400
that uh you know obviously there's a lot
0:43:15.660,0:43:18.480
of debate on that as far as on a
0:43:17.400,0:43:20.940
scientific level people talk about
0:43:18.480,0:43:22.440
eastern western coyotes and uh and again
0:43:20.940,0:43:23.940
a lot of stuff I'm not interested in
0:43:22.440,0:43:25.980
arguing about but I sure love drawing
0:43:23.940,0:43:28.380
cartoons about it right right the
0:43:25.980,0:43:30.900
controversy and uh people get upset with
0:43:28.380,0:43:33.359
me but for me personally I think that uh
0:43:30.900,0:43:35.339
a coyote is a coyote but I think that
0:43:33.359,0:43:38.460
they respond differently they use their
0:43:35.339,0:43:40.200
terrain to their advantage uh I think
0:43:38.460,0:43:42.060
like in your area you know they're going
0:43:40.200,0:43:44.220
to use those hollers
0:43:42.060,0:43:45.420
to get in and around you ain't gonna run
0:43:44.220,0:43:47.040
across
0:43:45.420,0:43:48.720
um you know yeah and you've seen that
0:43:47.040,0:43:49.980
multiple times with me they just you
0:43:48.720,0:43:51.180
know a lot of open ground out in front
0:43:49.980,0:43:54.599
of you but next thing you know they're
0:43:51.180,0:43:55.980
popping out of the shortest shortest no
0:43:54.599,0:43:58.079
distance from you they take like you
0:43:55.980,0:44:00.180
said use a Terrain to stay hidden
0:43:58.079,0:44:01.859
yep and of course obviously out west
0:44:00.180,0:44:04.500
they don't have that Advantage because
0:44:01.859,0:44:08.579
it's literally the tallest thing uh
0:44:04.500,0:44:10.920
around is uh you know a shrub brush for
0:44:08.579,0:44:12.359
you know 800 miles so they've got they
0:44:10.920,0:44:14.040
don't have the option of Dipping down
0:44:12.359,0:44:15.300
areas but if they had it they'd use it
0:44:14.040,0:44:17.700
and
0:44:15.300,0:44:19.859
um and so yeah for me again it's always
0:44:17.700,0:44:20.900
that constant puzzle trying to look and
0:44:19.859,0:44:23.160
see
0:44:20.900,0:44:25.859
what uh
0:44:23.160,0:44:27.420
um you know when you get on stand with
0:44:25.859,0:44:30.240
that woodsmanship like I said you know
0:44:27.420,0:44:32.520
and then even for me like learning
0:44:30.240,0:44:34.140
um like with the fox bro like what
0:44:32.520,0:44:35.640
sounds and right of course there's
0:44:34.140,0:44:36.900
always Kyle's don't follow the rules
0:44:35.640,0:44:39.780
there's things that are going to come
0:44:36.900,0:44:41.280
into that uh everyone will tell you they
0:44:39.780,0:44:42.780
won't come into it's just like fishing
0:44:41.280,0:44:44.520
you know they'll say no no fish won't
0:44:42.780,0:44:46.980
bite that lure well I just got five on
0:44:44.520,0:44:48.599
them yeah you know it's like but um
0:44:46.980,0:44:50.880
that's pretty interesting top you know
0:44:48.599,0:44:52.800
he was talking about the woodsmanship
0:44:50.880,0:44:55.200
um that that's involved and stuff that
0:44:52.800,0:44:56.700
you learned over the years you know
0:44:55.200,0:44:58.800
making coyote stands and Hunt different
0:44:56.700,0:45:00.300
places but there's one thing that stood
0:44:58.800,0:45:02.460
out to me when you were talking about
0:45:00.300,0:45:03.960
your first successful coyote stand and
0:45:02.460,0:45:05.579
it's something I talk about with new
0:45:03.960,0:45:07.859
Hunters want to do seminars and stuff
0:45:05.579,0:45:09.480
like that you were talking about leaned
0:45:07.859,0:45:11.700
up against that fence post and you've
0:45:09.480,0:45:13.920
made so many stands for X number of
0:45:11.700,0:45:15.540
years and you've kind of comes with a
0:45:13.920,0:45:17.640
you know you really wasn't expecting to
0:45:15.540,0:45:19.859
call anything up uh you know one of the
0:45:17.640,0:45:22.859
things I talk about is is never become
0:45:19.859,0:45:25.619
complacent on Stan you've got to always
0:45:22.859,0:45:27.720
think that you're or have the mindset
0:45:25.619,0:45:30.180
that you know that you're going to call
0:45:27.720,0:45:32.099
a coyote up uh because a lot of times
0:45:30.180,0:45:33.660
when you you're making those dry stands
0:45:32.099,0:45:35.220
make a dry stand after dry stand and
0:45:33.660,0:45:36.420
everybody does it it doesn't matter who
0:45:35.220,0:45:38.040
you are
0:45:36.420,0:45:39.920
where you're at in the country you're
0:45:38.040,0:45:42.480
going to make dry stands just how it is
0:45:39.920,0:45:44.400
but you've also you've always got to
0:45:42.480,0:45:45.480
think that that next hand when you get
0:45:44.400,0:45:47.819
on that stand you're going to call
0:45:45.480,0:45:50.040
coyotes up because absolutely what
0:45:47.819,0:45:52.020
happens is is when you do get complacent
0:45:50.040,0:45:53.460
that's when you usually call a coyote up
0:45:52.020,0:45:54.780
and guess what happens if you ain't
0:45:53.460,0:45:56.819
ready a lot of times you'll screw the
0:45:54.780,0:45:59.220
stand up but for you
0:45:56.819,0:46:00.839
he was able to bust one at 80 plus steps
0:45:59.220,0:46:02.760
with a shotgun
0:46:00.839,0:46:05.160
yeah but but you learn something there
0:46:02.760,0:46:06.180
you learned that uh you can call one up
0:46:05.160,0:46:09.000
at any time
0:46:06.180,0:46:11.940
oh yeah and I think that uh that's one
0:46:09.000,0:46:15.180
of the things that is exciting I mean I
0:46:11.940,0:46:16.319
uh for me is
0:46:15.180,0:46:17.760
um
0:46:16.319,0:46:21.000
I
0:46:17.760,0:46:22.079
I like even the dry stains a lot of
0:46:21.000,0:46:23.280
times and I think that this was
0:46:22.079,0:46:25.560
something I made mistake when I was
0:46:23.280,0:46:26.880
younger or as early into as I would have
0:46:25.560,0:46:29.819
a dry stand just get up and walk away
0:46:26.880,0:46:32.880
from it right but to really stop and
0:46:29.819,0:46:35.700
analyze and there's so many variables
0:46:32.880,0:46:38.880
that really no one really truly knows
0:46:35.700,0:46:40.319
exactly exactly but to look at each dry
0:46:38.880,0:46:43.079
stand and go
0:46:40.319,0:46:47.040
what could I have possibly changed
0:46:43.079,0:46:49.440
you know and uh re uh kind of like
0:46:47.040,0:46:50.579
critical thinking of your because a lot
0:46:49.440,0:46:52.500
of times these guys you know it's like
0:46:50.579,0:46:53.940
hey I got uh an afternoon I'm just gonna
0:46:52.500,0:46:55.079
plop out stand out in the Middle Field
0:46:53.940,0:46:57.780
I'm just gonna sit where you know
0:46:55.079,0:47:00.180
wherever well that you may be successful
0:46:57.780,0:47:02.280
sometimes but you're really limiting
0:47:00.180,0:47:04.440
your the odds in your favor unless you
0:47:02.280,0:47:06.359
stop critically thinking I've actually
0:47:04.440,0:47:09.839
seen that play out to my advantage
0:47:06.359,0:47:12.119
through the years ahead of years ago
0:47:09.839,0:47:15.180
it was actually the very first stand I
0:47:12.119,0:47:17.819
was making with my Foxborough fusion and
0:47:15.180,0:47:20.520
uh small little plot of land in Alabama
0:47:17.819,0:47:23.220
my wife's originally from Tuscaloosa and
0:47:20.520,0:47:25.380
her she their family had a farmer friend
0:47:23.220,0:47:28.579
who had a very small
0:47:25.380,0:47:32.700
piece of property that uh had cattle on
0:47:28.579,0:47:34.740
and uh I looked at the the aerial of it
0:47:32.700,0:47:36.119
and I knew there was only one spot with
0:47:34.740,0:47:38.460
the Wind
0:47:36.119,0:47:41.520
that I could actually safely and
0:47:38.460,0:47:43.319
realistically set up like you know this
0:47:41.520,0:47:44.940
is probably where the cats are
0:47:43.319,0:47:46.920
from what this guy was telling me where
0:47:44.940,0:47:47.880
they were he'd see them their travel
0:47:46.920,0:47:50.880
path
0:47:47.880,0:47:53.339
and uh where I could actually set up and
0:47:50.880,0:47:54.660
set up the fusion and I mean literally
0:47:53.339,0:47:56.940
it was
0:47:54.660,0:48:00.359
the coyote followed the exact script
0:47:56.940,0:48:03.000
because I started playing sounds
0:48:00.359,0:48:06.180
um I believe I was playing uh
0:48:03.000,0:48:11.099
uh the the rabbit distress
0:48:06.180,0:48:14.280
um oh uh baby Cottontail yeah yeah and
0:48:11.099,0:48:16.560
uh I mean this coyote just come bursting
0:48:14.280,0:48:18.720
in and right literally I could have just
0:48:16.560,0:48:20.640
drawn out the whole thing in this coyote
0:48:18.720,0:48:23.339
and and that that didn't that wasn't
0:48:20.640,0:48:27.060
luck that was literally analyzing and
0:48:23.339,0:48:29.099
analyzing and analyzing wind uh where
0:48:27.060,0:48:30.960
this cat would feel comfortable coming
0:48:29.099,0:48:33.720
in out of this draw
0:48:30.960,0:48:34.980
and uh it was successful and took
0:48:33.720,0:48:36.359
everything that you've learned over the
0:48:34.980,0:48:37.859
years put it together and made a
0:48:36.359,0:48:39.480
successful stand out of it it's pretty
0:48:37.859,0:48:41.160
good yeah and that's those are the
0:48:39.480,0:48:43.079
beauty ones because it's like you
0:48:41.160,0:48:44.640
literally feel like you were I mean it's
0:48:43.079,0:48:46.680
just like sports there's teams who win
0:48:44.640,0:48:48.000
out of pure luck out of that one player
0:48:46.680,0:48:50.880
that just happened to be a lucky play
0:48:48.000,0:48:54.420
but there's teams that consistently win
0:48:50.880,0:48:57.060
because they've analyzed and they've
0:48:54.420,0:48:58.680
tried to uh really up their game by
0:48:57.060,0:49:01.560
making sure they've got everything they
0:48:58.680,0:49:03.240
need and be in the right spot and so
0:49:01.560,0:49:06.359
when those stands happen
0:49:03.240,0:49:08.940
uh it's it's magic because you really
0:49:06.359,0:49:10.200
know you've actually definitely smarter
0:49:08.940,0:49:12.000
than one of the smartest creatures so
0:49:10.200,0:49:13.440
yeah a sense of accomplishment there I
0:49:12.000,0:49:15.359
don't like what you just said the
0:49:13.440,0:49:16.680
smartest creator that you'll ever try to
0:49:15.359,0:49:18.720
hunt especially here in North America
0:49:16.680,0:49:20.760
now team I got I got a couple more
0:49:18.720,0:49:22.440
questions for you here sure
0:49:20.760,0:49:23.880
um you know we've kind of talked about
0:49:22.440,0:49:25.200
this already but you know one of the
0:49:23.880,0:49:26.460
things I always look forward to when
0:49:25.200,0:49:28.920
we're hunting together is the
0:49:26.460,0:49:30.960
storytelling all right you know the the
0:49:28.920,0:49:33.060
coyote hunting and making coyote stats
0:49:30.960,0:49:34.619
is great too of course but uh you know
0:49:33.060,0:49:36.240
you've had some pretty interesting hunts
0:49:34.619,0:49:37.980
over the years you have one that sticks
0:49:36.240,0:49:40.280
out in your mind that you care to tell
0:49:37.980,0:49:40.280
us about
0:49:40.319,0:49:44.460
um well I mean I've I've always it's
0:49:42.839,0:49:46.560
always the funny ones where it's like
0:49:44.460,0:49:47.420
yeah I want to hear a funny one
0:49:46.560,0:49:51.660
yeah
0:49:47.420,0:49:53.339
I mean they uh years ago and of course
0:49:51.660,0:49:55.200
some of these are just it's like uh
0:49:53.339,0:49:57.359
crazy stuff but
0:49:55.200,0:49:58.940
years ago I had a situation where I was
0:49:57.359,0:50:02.099
down in Mississippi hunting with a guy
0:49:58.940,0:50:04.260
uh this is pre-coveted and he invited me
0:50:02.099,0:50:06.180
to come down Simon rile's great guy and
0:50:04.260,0:50:08.579
we're gonna go do some night hunting
0:50:06.180,0:50:10.859
together and uh you know when I'm down
0:50:08.579,0:50:14.819
there I'm home with people I'm believing
0:50:10.859,0:50:17.099
that they're the you know that we're all
0:50:14.819,0:50:18.420
on on board and he is it's not like he's
0:50:17.099,0:50:20.700
doing anything under the table or
0:50:18.420,0:50:22.740
anything that would be not trespassing
0:50:20.700,0:50:24.780
or anything but I'm just the guest and
0:50:22.740,0:50:26.099
I'm in I'm in southern Missouri I mean
0:50:24.780,0:50:28.680
Southern Mississippi
0:50:26.099,0:50:31.500
so I'm a Yankee and I know I'm out of my
0:50:28.680,0:50:32.520
zone well we get out there and we call
0:50:31.500,0:50:34.319
in a
0:50:32.520,0:50:36.900
and we were with one of his buddies a
0:50:34.319,0:50:40.140
guy by Aunt Blake and we're we're uh
0:50:36.900,0:50:42.540
using tripods thermal scopes and uh
0:50:40.140,0:50:44.579
their Bobcat comes in at 200 yards and
0:50:42.540,0:50:46.500
it locks up and Simon turns me and says
0:50:44.579,0:50:48.960
hey you're the guest take a shot
0:50:46.500,0:50:50.700
so I make the I connect and make the
0:50:48.960,0:50:52.619
shot make a great beautiful shot on this
0:50:50.700,0:50:54.540
Mississippi bobcat
0:50:52.619,0:50:56.640
well Blake says hey I'm gonna stay by
0:50:54.540,0:50:58.140
the rifles while you guys walk on all in
0:50:56.640,0:51:00.240
that field try to find he said you know
0:50:58.140,0:51:03.000
Blake's trying to find a heat signature
0:51:00.240,0:51:04.920
so he can direct us because it was like
0:51:03.000,0:51:06.119
knee-deep grass out there in his pasture
0:51:04.920,0:51:08.520
so we get out there we're looking around
0:51:06.119,0:51:11.819
well we hear this noise and this trunk
0:51:08.520,0:51:14.400
comes rolling up over by Blake and I
0:51:11.819,0:51:16.200
mean this farmer just lets loose I could
0:51:14.400,0:51:19.200
hear it from 200 yards away this is
0:51:16.200,0:51:22.500
Farmer's cussing Blake up and down who
0:51:19.200,0:51:24.119
the blank's all my property and uh Blake
0:51:22.500,0:51:26.700
is a little bit of a high-pitched tone
0:51:24.119,0:51:28.859
like Ugh Simon and Simon looks at me and
0:51:26.700,0:51:30.000
goes I'll be right back well now Simon
0:51:28.859,0:51:31.200
leaves me in the middlesfield
0:51:30.000,0:51:34.260
Mississippi
0:51:31.200,0:51:37.200
I don't have a flashlight I don't have a
0:51:34.260,0:51:41.640
gun and it sounds like it's about to go
0:51:37.200,0:51:44.040
south over there right this farmer is
0:51:41.640,0:51:46.040
and I'm thinking I'm stuck in a field in
0:51:44.040,0:51:48.720
the middle of Mississippi in a Yankee
0:51:46.040,0:51:51.720
and I'm looking for the North Star in
0:51:48.720,0:51:54.240
case I need to start walking at home you
0:51:51.720,0:51:56.579
know I'm just standing there in this and
0:51:54.240,0:51:59.520
you all I hear is angry voices people
0:51:56.579,0:52:02.400
yelling well Simon comes back and truck
0:51:59.520,0:52:03.720
takes off and time comes back and you
0:52:02.400,0:52:05.640
saw a farmer
0:52:03.720,0:52:08.940
didn't recognize our truck that we were
0:52:05.640,0:52:11.040
trespassers of course uh is all hey so
0:52:08.940,0:52:14.900
sorry for this entertainment you know
0:52:11.040,0:52:18.000
everyone was good but it's true
0:52:14.900,0:52:21.119
he has to take out your blood flowing oh
0:52:18.000,0:52:23.280
yeah you know and um and you know and I
0:52:21.119,0:52:25.200
another uh stand that was kind of
0:52:23.280,0:52:29.760
memorable for me was I was in Northern
0:52:25.200,0:52:31.800
Illinois years ago and uh I we were in a
0:52:29.760,0:52:34.920
hunting competition with these two guys
0:52:31.800,0:52:37.579
invite me to join them and it was one of
0:52:34.920,0:52:40.440
these 24-hour medal of winter just
0:52:37.579,0:52:42.660
miserable weather we hunted for 24 hours
0:52:40.440,0:52:44.220
and somehow I'm always with the young
0:52:42.660,0:52:46.440
guys and I'm sitting there just like
0:52:44.220,0:52:48.839
dying because I'm might just catching up
0:52:46.440,0:52:51.660
to me and well
0:52:48.839,0:52:54.240
Last Stand it's like two hours before we
0:52:51.660,0:52:56.780
got away in Last Stand the coyote comes
0:52:54.240,0:52:56.780
out in this field
0:52:57.059,0:53:01.200
um the guy next to me has an AR and it
0:52:59.940,0:53:03.359
locks up on him I don't know if he
0:53:01.200,0:53:05.400
didn't have the the action all the way
0:53:03.359,0:53:07.800
forward or whatever he can't get the gun
0:53:05.400,0:53:09.780
to go off and he accidentally drops the
0:53:07.800,0:53:12.900
the mag in the snow
0:53:09.780,0:53:14.520
uh he's having fits with this AR well
0:53:12.900,0:53:16.380
my other buddy turns him in says take
0:53:14.520,0:53:18.240
the shot so it's about a 15 mile an hour
0:53:16.380,0:53:21.839
across when I shoot at this coyote about
0:53:18.240,0:53:22.740
100 yards and it it goes to the left and
0:53:21.839,0:53:25.200
uh
0:53:22.740,0:53:26.880
he uh this coyote starts tearing down
0:53:25.200,0:53:28.140
this field well it's it's doing the
0:53:26.880,0:53:31.200
worst thing it can do and that is run
0:53:28.140,0:53:34.740
directly away from us so I throw another
0:53:31.200,0:53:36.960
around in my bolt action and I level up
0:53:34.740,0:53:39.720
and I did a little bit of a what they
0:53:36.960,0:53:42.420
call Kentucky windage you know yeah
0:53:39.720,0:53:44.760
yeah I uh I estimated guesstimated and
0:53:42.420,0:53:46.440
it's nanosecond and I've set just a
0:53:44.760,0:53:49.319
little bit to the right shot
0:53:46.440,0:53:52.319
and then coyote at 200 yards rolled up I
0:53:49.319,0:53:54.359
mean just mowed them down well
0:53:52.319,0:53:55.740
they and my buddies are looking at me
0:53:54.359,0:53:58.680
like they think I'm a rock star now
0:53:55.740,0:54:01.740
because I've just shot on a dead run
0:53:58.680,0:54:03.119
crosswind well we get up now I make a
0:54:01.740,0:54:05.700
mistake
0:54:03.119,0:54:07.020
I get up and I leave my rifle there on
0:54:05.700,0:54:09.059
the snow bank
0:54:07.020,0:54:12.240
and I get up to go get this coyote and
0:54:09.059,0:54:15.420
I'm about 10 yards from it and that
0:54:12.240,0:54:16.800
coyote stand straight up oh no no I
0:54:15.420,0:54:19.260
don't know if it just passed through
0:54:16.800,0:54:21.240
soft tissue and didn't hit any bone and
0:54:19.260,0:54:23.819
whatever but the coyote stands up and
0:54:21.240,0:54:25.260
he's he's he ain't doing too great but
0:54:23.819,0:54:27.059
he's looking like he's ready to tear off
0:54:25.260,0:54:29.760
and I mean I've hunted for 24 hours I
0:54:27.059,0:54:32.460
ain't losing this coyote and I all I got
0:54:29.760,0:54:34.200
on me is a pocket knife oh no and I
0:54:32.460,0:54:36.359
literally pulled that pocket knife out
0:54:34.200,0:54:37.859
and I'm unfolding I'm ready and I'm
0:54:36.359,0:54:39.420
trying to cut this kite up from going
0:54:37.859,0:54:40.619
off down this marine and I've got enough
0:54:39.420,0:54:42.599
clothes and I'm thinking I'm just gonna
0:54:40.619,0:54:44.160
I'm gonna let him tear up my hunting
0:54:42.599,0:54:46.980
clothes but I'm gonna get this coyote
0:54:44.160,0:54:48.480
ain't losing it well just then as I'm
0:54:46.980,0:54:50.339
committing to try to get to this coyote
0:54:48.480,0:54:53.099
my buddy comes up behind me is there or
0:54:50.339,0:54:55.859
he finally he got around it I got it
0:54:53.099,0:54:57.540
running and he comes up and says whoa
0:54:55.859,0:55:01.800
whoa so I got you and then he comes past
0:54:57.540,0:55:03.059
me and he puts the coyote down so uh but
0:55:01.800,0:55:05.640
in it again that people don't understand
0:55:03.059,0:55:09.839
like you'd actually stab a wild animal
0:55:05.640,0:55:12.180
when you blow the guy for 24 hours and
0:55:09.839,0:55:15.119
you put that much time and gas money and
0:55:12.180,0:55:16.500
effort uh and so you know it's just to
0:55:15.119,0:55:17.579
get like you said it gets in your blood
0:55:16.500,0:55:18.619
and
0:55:17.579,0:55:21.119
um
0:55:18.619,0:55:23.280
I've got a good I've got a good one on
0:55:21.119,0:55:25.500
you okay I don't know if you you'll
0:55:23.280,0:55:28.440
remember the stand but I don't know if
0:55:25.500,0:55:29.579
you'll remember what happened before we
0:55:28.440,0:55:31.500
you
0:55:29.579,0:55:34.260
you come down I think he was here for
0:55:31.500,0:55:37.200
two days and the the colony had been
0:55:34.260,0:55:39.240
pretty slow but uh we
0:55:37.200,0:55:42.200
I think it was the last morning you were
0:55:39.240,0:55:45.480
going to be down we didn't stand stands
0:55:42.200,0:55:47.579
yeah all up you know unsuccessful was
0:55:45.480,0:55:50.339
down to the you know last end of the
0:55:47.579,0:55:52.920
trip and uh we'll get up here hunting
0:55:50.339,0:55:55.140
and start calling I look over at you and
0:55:52.920,0:55:57.240
you know you're not really what I would
0:55:55.140,0:55:59.040
call complacent or anything like we was
0:55:57.240,0:56:02.099
talking about earlier but I did notice
0:55:59.040,0:56:06.380
that and people that that don't know Tim
0:56:02.099,0:56:06.380
he's got a beard oh Lord
0:56:07.220,0:56:12.720
I look over at him and I say well damn
0:56:10.859,0:56:14.460
the collar's been pretty slow but you
0:56:12.720,0:56:16.440
never know we might call one up you
0:56:14.460,0:56:19.859
might want to get all that beard out of
0:56:16.440,0:56:19.859
the action yeah
0:56:20.339,0:56:24.240
I rolled up mine yeah that's the problem
0:56:22.680,0:56:25.920
with his beard is if you ain't careful
0:56:24.240,0:56:27.960
I'm surprised that I don't get it caught
0:56:25.920,0:56:29.760
on Tools in my shop all the time but I
0:56:27.960,0:56:31.740
yeah I got a drawing I think I sent it
0:56:29.760,0:56:35.819
to you that me half my beard is stuck up
0:56:31.740,0:56:37.500
in my jammed up in my uh my action and
0:56:35.819,0:56:38.940
guess what you got that you got your
0:56:37.500,0:56:41.579
beard out of the action what happened we
0:56:38.940,0:56:45.119
caught in three pack of coyote yeah we
0:56:41.579,0:56:46.800
did yeah well you know uh I'll tell one
0:56:45.119,0:56:48.960
on you too it's kind of funny so you
0:56:46.800,0:56:50.579
know being being a city guy you know I'm
0:56:48.960,0:56:54.359
used to driving down
0:56:50.579,0:56:55.980
a paved roads and uh you know and of
0:56:54.359,0:56:58.500
course we got your drive-by shootings
0:56:55.980,0:57:00.480
and all that craziness but uh you know
0:56:58.500,0:57:02.579
we were going to a stand one time and
0:57:00.480,0:57:04.319
and I always think I'm kind of Hardcore
0:57:02.579,0:57:06.359
and committed until I actually hunt with
0:57:04.319,0:57:08.579
somebody who's hardcore and committed
0:57:06.359,0:57:09.960
and we were driving and that's one thing
0:57:08.579,0:57:11.339
about Kentucky it's always a little bit
0:57:09.960,0:57:12.680
shocking to me is when you'll be driving
0:57:11.339,0:57:15.540
down the road and suddenly just
0:57:12.680,0:57:17.880
terminates into a creek
0:57:15.540,0:57:19.079
and and they want you to drive through
0:57:17.880,0:57:22.380
that Creek to get to the other side of
0:57:19.079,0:57:24.480
the road and I'm driving a an S I'm
0:57:22.380,0:57:27.180
driving a Saturn Vue it's like ain't no
0:57:24.480,0:57:28.859
4x4 you know one time we went to that
0:57:27.180,0:57:30.960
stand and I don't know you my eyes were
0:57:28.859,0:57:33.180
so big because you're like oh we gotta
0:57:30.960,0:57:35.280
cross this mountain or this stream well
0:57:33.180,0:57:38.099
it wasn't even a stream it was like an
0:57:35.280,0:57:39.480
angry River to me and you're down you
0:57:38.099,0:57:41.400
put that your truck in the floor before
0:57:39.480,0:57:44.819
I'm watching that water come up the side
0:57:41.400,0:57:46.020
of that door on the outside mines were
0:57:44.819,0:57:47.700
getting bigger and bigger and I'm
0:57:46.020,0:57:50.099
hearing Boulders going underneath the
0:57:47.700,0:57:52.380
like you know you're you're tossing your
0:57:50.099,0:57:53.940
tires are tossing Boulders and stuff and
0:57:52.380,0:57:56.280
I'm looking like I don't know if I
0:57:53.940,0:57:58.740
really want how good is this stand you
0:57:56.280,0:58:00.980
know and uh you're kind of laughing at
0:57:58.740,0:58:04.520
me like settle down we'll get you yeah
0:58:00.980,0:58:07.099
I've changed multiple wheel bearings
0:58:04.520,0:58:10.140
and everything else in that truck too
0:58:07.099,0:58:11.700
yeah and then again like I said for me I
0:58:10.140,0:58:13.800
was just kind of chuckling a laugh when
0:58:11.700,0:58:15.059
you're in situations that aren't you
0:58:13.800,0:58:16.440
aren't normal and that's probably
0:58:15.059,0:58:19.020
something that you're are just used to
0:58:16.440,0:58:20.099
doing and whatever but for me it was
0:58:19.020,0:58:22.500
like
0:58:20.099,0:58:25.200
uh you know that's committed coyote
0:58:22.500,0:58:27.240
hunting when you're willing to go uh in
0:58:25.200,0:58:30.540
a submarine that's you know a truck you
0:58:27.240,0:58:32.819
know to go get a coyote you know but uh
0:58:30.540,0:58:34.859
it's all about fun coyote stands makes
0:58:32.819,0:58:36.540
what good yeah good friends that's uh
0:58:34.859,0:58:39.720
you know absolutely that's one of the
0:58:36.540,0:58:41.700
reasons why a lot of us do it yeah it uh
0:58:39.720,0:58:44.660
it sure yeah a lot of good memories
0:58:41.700,0:58:46.740
that's for sure oh yeah absolutely
0:58:44.660,0:58:48.420
we're kind of starting to run out of
0:58:46.740,0:58:50.819
time here you wanna sure you got
0:58:48.420,0:58:51.900
anything you'd like to add to leave us
0:58:50.819,0:58:54.119
with here
0:58:51.900,0:58:56.460
well like I said I mean for me I I
0:58:54.119,0:58:59.940
really honestly got Truth uh just feel
0:58:56.460,0:59:02.040
very much like I live just a dream life
0:58:59.940,0:59:04.619
in the way of like being able to be
0:59:02.040,0:59:06.900
Associated and work with Foxpro as a
0:59:04.619,0:59:09.720
company and I I I know a lot of times
0:59:06.900,0:59:12.000
people will uh say these things because
0:59:09.720,0:59:14.339
they're like sponsored or because
0:59:12.000,0:59:16.500
they're getting paid to but to be honest
0:59:14.339,0:59:18.540
I really value my friendship with
0:59:16.500,0:59:20.579
everyone and uh it's been they've always
0:59:18.540,0:59:23.339
treated me good better than I deserve
0:59:20.579,0:59:25.200
and uh they've always supported my work
0:59:23.339,0:59:25.920
and
0:59:25.200,0:59:28.619
um
0:59:25.920,0:59:30.660
for me just the Hunting Community too as
0:59:28.619,0:59:32.640
a whole just really some of the most
0:59:30.660,0:59:35.880
amazing people I've met I've always been
0:59:32.640,0:59:39.480
really indebted to people's hospitality
0:59:35.880,0:59:42.960
and uh graciousness and willingness to
0:59:39.480,0:59:44.640
let a city boy come down and uh crash on
0:59:42.960,0:59:46.500
their couch and go do some coyote
0:59:44.640,0:59:48.000
hunting and I hope to be doing it for
0:59:46.500,0:59:49.740
years so like I said I'm just super
0:59:48.000,0:59:51.839
blessed so yeah we'll have to get you
0:59:49.740,0:59:54.000
we'll have to get you back down I'll be
0:59:51.839,0:59:55.380
down soon Tim I really appreciate you
0:59:54.000,0:59:57.000
jumping on here I've had a great time
0:59:55.380,0:59:58.319
man thanks for thank you thank you so
0:59:57.000,1:00:00.839
much podcast
0:59:58.319,1:00:02.760
thank you yeah we hope everyone enjoyed
1:00:00.839,1:00:06.380
this this episode we hope you join us
1:00:02.760,1:00:06.380
again right here on the Foxpro podcast