In this episode of the FOXPRO Podcast join Jon Collins and Torry Cook answering more of your frequently asked questions
Welcome to the FoxPro podcast brought to you by FoxPro Game Calls. Hello everyone. Welcome back to the FoxPro podcast. Today's episode is going to be part two of our question and answer series. Last episode we covered questions referring to wind and locating. This episode will cover calling, coyote behavior, and situational questions. Once again, we have Tory Cook of MFK on the line. How's it going, Tori? Oh, pretty good. Been uh been busy the last few days moving the daughter into college and been solding the wife and women are I like behavior studying behavior stuff on animals, but one thing I can't figure out is is the behavior of a woman. Well, I've seen every kind of emotion you can see moving that kid out. I guess picking, you know, moving it out of the nest, it leaving the nest and uh then watching that mama go from happy to sad and back and forth and all that kind of stuff. So, that's what I've been doing the last couple days. Yeah, I've uh I went through that about four years ago with our daughter. And then what you don't know is you get to see it again once they graduate from college. I know it. It's a the grand boy started school. That was a tearjerkering event for all the women. Yeah, I guarantee it. And now the college deal start up and we were taking pictures and she's happy and of course everything's going good and then the next minute her face is buried in the pillow like Well, it's kind of like uh you know referring to that. Uh I they're a lot like coyotes, tell you the truth. You know, if you ever get coyotes completely figured out, you let me know because it'll make things a lot easier for me. And same thing with women. If you get them figured out, let us all in on it. That's that that's true. But I got sidetracked talking about that. I guess we ought to jump on the coyote deal. Yes, sir. Like I said, this is uh question and answer part two. And like I said, we're going to kind of cover some of the calling questions, some stuff about coyote behavior, and there were several situational questions. Uh, but the first one I'm going to cover is a is a call-in question. And uh, this might be tough to answer. I don't know. But, uh, this uh, this comes from two different people. Kind of said the same thing. This is from Steve and Vinnie. They said, "Pound out west. Everyone says it's their go-to sound. Here in Ohio, I've never caught a coyote to that sound."
Yeah, I've had that question before. not only with that sound, but other sounds that are really popular. And I you're right, I really don't know the answer to that question because it's not an area deal because they may be in Ohio or wherever, but there are people all over the nation that have great success with those popular sounds, whether it be downtown or or any other sound. and then for whatever reason another guy hasn't had success. And it's the only way to really answer those questions would be to go out and see what each situation was and what's going on and and then try to figure out, you know, maybe why they didn't have success on a particular sound in that situation. You know, I don't I don't know if u I don't know the details of all of that to really give a any better answer than than what I just did. Well, I mean, when it comes to that, I know for a fact that pound town is used successfully in Ohio. I I know people personally that burn that sound up and pile up all kinds of coyotes. Uh, one of them is Fox Pro uh pro staffer Eric Hammond. He lives up there in Ohio. He's a transfer in there from Vermont, but uh he he kills coyotes like crazy daytime and nighttime in Ohio. And I know that he uses pound town quite a bit and calls calls and kills a lot of coyotes, too. Yeah. And and you'll hear that with other, like I said, you'll hear that with other sounds too from somebody and then it'll be you're on Facebook 10 minutes later and it's a guy from the same area. Yeah. That's used that that's their favorite sound. So killed a killed a dozen years yesterday to it. Yeah. Yeah. So I I don't know why and like I said without details of you know are you having success on other stuff? Are you not having success period you know what all the details on that when are you using the sound? Have you already you know are you is it last resort deal? you know, lot of lot of situational stuff. But yeah, those sounds get popular nationwide for a reason. And if you're not having success with it right there where you're at, I mean, don't use it if you if you feel like you you've used it enough and you're having success with other stuff. But usually there's something else going on because when a sound is successful everywhere else by other people, it's usually there's usually something else going on. And without those details, it's impossible to answer. I' I'd say it's one of those things. It's just luck of the draw or bad luck of the draw. You might you might say it's just like say if you went, you know, this is for Steve and Vinnie. If you guys went and made coyote stands last night and you were using some different type of sounds and you had hard chargers right off the bat, uh what's to say that those coyotes wouldn't have came in and got killed by pound if you started off with them? You know, you know, if you if you go to the stands like kind of like Tori was saying and on the 20 minute mark you ain't seen a thing, you ain't heard a thing, not a whiff of nothing and then you try pound town at the end, a pretty good chance you would going to call coyotes up to nothing cuz there might not been no coyotes there. And I realize you guys have probably tried them in really good spots and maybe called stuff in after you quit playing pound town or anything like that, but I guarantee you it does work in Ohio. I know for a fact I wouldn't give up on it. Um, I would try putting it into your sequence or at different times. Just try to use the sound in a different way because I guarantee you it'll work. Uh, like I said, some of those other callins you've had in the past, you never know. If you'd played pound town in the spot where you called that with the sound uh that you called the coyote up to, if you put pound in its place, you probably would have called him up, you know, with it. You know what I mean? So, I wouldn't give up on it just yet. Let's move right on to a another This is another call-in question. Uh this is from Bradley Weey and this is for Tory. He says, "You've recorded yourself lip squeaking and it's phenomenal. When are you going to record diaphragm whimpers?" Uh I don't know that that's a good question. And I've actually been using some I've taught myself how to do the greeting wine sounds on a diaphragm and have been playing with that for a little while just here recently on a couple of stands. Had coaches come running right over it. Of course, it's easier to hit the button on the Fox Pro and kick on greeting wines or mom call something like that. But for the people that want to use the diaphragms, and it is a a little bit different dynamic to it, a swap up type deal that a lot of people like to use, myself included. As far as when I'm going to record that, I I guess I probably should because I've had a couple people ask for stuff like that. So, I guess I'll answer that by saying sometime in the near future, I'll try to do that. Well, here's here's another one from Bradley. Uh, how do you incorporate silence into your coyote stands? How long and what's the duration? Which duration and length? Same thing pretty much, I guess. But how do you incorporate silence into your coyote stands? That that's situational, too, depending on, you know, what the stand is. If I'm if I'm out there on a blank stand, which I hate blank I mean, not blank stands, but blind stands. I'm not much of a blind stand person, but when I do make blind stands, usually in the winter time, stuff like that, if I do it, I don't use a lot of silence because I'm I don't know if there's a code there for sure. So, I'm usually just kind of rolling rolling from sound to sound pretty quick, maybe with short gaps. But when I'm hunting coats that I know are located and especially if I'm bow hunting coats, then I use a lot more silence, little breaks because I want the coat to come in. It'll change the pace of the coat coming in a lot of times. So, I will run, you know, if I run a set of house, I may wait a minute or two, especially if I'm bow hunting the coat. And the same thing with when I swap to any other type sound, whether it be a a pup distress or a prey distress, really doesn't matter. a social sound. I'll run it in short burst and then put say 30 seconds or so of um silence in there for a couple of reasons. I'm hunting thick stuff and so those silent gaps a lot of times I can hear the co coming before I see it. So that gives me a chance to hear him and get ready and then it also slows the co down so he's not running over me in that thick stuff get a chance to draw. And then on the bulk of my stands, which are shotgun stands, then I'm running those short breaks. So after a how 30 seconds, a minute before I go to the next one. And it also depends on how patient. So if I howl and coats answer me back, and I may sit there several minutes in silence hoping that that first coat, especially family bust up time of the year like it is right now, but I do it about any time of the year. If I know there's a co pretty close to me, I think I'm close enough. I will give that co some time to come in on whatever sound I just played for a couple of reasons. I want him to come in slow. I want to get that first coat killed off of as few sounds as possible because that opens the door for me to play another sound and possibly get another coat. So, I like the silent stuff, but I'm not one of those guys that sits there for, you know, 5, 10 minutes in silence hoping something shows up. You know, it's usually 30 seconds, minute burst outside of if I'veled coach answer me, then I might wait two, three, four minutes to try to get them to come in on house. Yeah. Yeah. And I I totally agree. You know, it's one of those things. Um, I don't think you ever have to incorporate silence if you don't want to. But at the same time, I do think silence can be a trigger uh trigger for coyotes sometimes. And usually, you know, I like using a lot of sounds. It's got natural pauses in them for silence. Um, those are some of my favorite sounds that I use, but when I'm incorporating it myself where it's not, you know, just naturally in the sound file, they're usually pretty short, uh, you know, durations of silence. I I guess the biggest thing is like if I am using coyote vocals such as house, usually if there's silence in between, I let those I let those uh breathe a little longer. You might say in between hows, I might stretch the silence out longer, but a lot of times if I'm playing some kind of uh prey distresses or pup distresses or anything like that, usually ain't a whole lot of silence in there. And if there is, it's just 15 or 20 seconds usually. But they Yeah, go ahead with what you going to say there. Oh, I was just coming back to a point that you already made. You can run a stand continuous and and you know, not have any breaks in there at all. And then you said, "But you do think silence sometimes." It's it's absolutely talking about cow behavior part of this podcast. Tying it to this question after watching a lot of times I'll record a new sound. I'll take it out on my coaches and just see how they react to it. There have been numerous times on different sounds to where silence is absolutely the trigger. You'll turn a sound on. I can watch these codes. You know, I may have my wife or somebody else running the call. I'm watching the coach and the call is, you know, 100, 200 yards, whatever from them. They can't see it or anything like that. The sound comes on. It gets their interest and they start listening. Sometimes they may even head towards it and then they hold up and listen and the sound is still playing. As soon as that sound hits one of those brakes, that's what triggers the code. I don't know if they think, "All right, well, I better go check that out before it gets away or or what or maybe it builds confidence that, you know, for them to go ahead and check it out, but I have witnessed them time and time again actually trigger on the break." So, I think those little short breaks, just like you say, it sounds like broke pups and stuff that have natural breaks in it. I think part of the trigger aspect of those sounds is the start and stopping of the sound. Sometimes it's the silence, you know, the sound, then the silence, then the sound starting back up. So, it gives you, you know, it gives you a extra possible trigger, right, with that start stop. But I've heard people say if you ain't, you know, if the sound ain't playing, you ain't calling. That's not necessarily true because those silent brakes do trigger codes sometimes. Yeah. And at the same time, I have witnessed this and broke pups is one of the sounds I've witnessed to this too several times, especially out in the western state or midwestern state where you can see pretty good piece. But I have called coyotes to broke pups, watch them coming, and every time what that break, that natural pause and the sound hits, they'll stop and sit there and listen and look. Then soon as the pup distress part of it kicks back in, here they come and they'll stop. But hey, why they do that, I don't know. But there's also some of them or a lot of them if not most of them are just running, kicking up dust through the silence, through the pup distress, through the whole nine yards. Yeah, I don't think it hurts you. Like like you said, you never that start stop is some type of trigger where it triggers them to stop or whether it triggers them to start. You just you don't really know. So when you're when you're using those sounds, you could get either. I guess what I'm getting at is having some little short pauses is not going to hurt you, but I personally wouldn't sit there for minutes on end, you know. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Waiting and hoping something shows up. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's move right on to the next one. This one is from Casey Bracken. He is asking, "Best way to use house to call in coyotes?" We have very vocal coyotes day and day or night, but they don't seem to come ever to house. So, he's asking what's the best way to use house to call in coyotes? Says he sounds like he's trying it, but he's not really calling anything in with them and but he is having response. It sounds like Yeah. And usually usually I mean I don't know his situation 100%. But anytime that happens, that's almost always a distance or proximity deal to the coyotes because a coach's natural the way that they communicate. When when they hear another co how and they answer back, that initial communication back and forth, each side giving away its location. if you are far enough away from those cows that they feel comfortable and and that distance can vary in thicker terrain. A lot of times it's not very far at all. So there's no set rule that if you're within 200 yards you're close enough that you may not be close enough and those coats will howl back to your house whether you're using a lone haul, a group, whatever. I mean, in any case, you're pretty much just a strange coat that if you get close enough to them more than like and you've got the wind, you know, everything else is right. More often than not, those cos are going to come check you out. So, I would I would say that it's probably not what house he's using. It's probably more of a proximity deal because if you if they're answering back and not coming to him, you need to get closer to the coast. That's almost the case. I mean, without being there, I would say that there's probably 95% chance that that is would be what he needs to do in that situation. But as far as what houses I use just to cover that side of it, I typically start with a lone h any time of the year. And then a lot of times this time of the year, I'm going to use adult and pup lone house. Start with either one of them. And then a lot of times I'll move from that to a pair how and then with some type of family group out and then into social interaction sounds. And if they don't show up on the house, a lot of times as soon as you kick on one of those social sounds and follow that with a pup sound, follow that with a pup fight and then adult fight, you should get those coyotes called up. But if you're close enough, they ought to come check those house out. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's a I think that's a perfect answer. And it's hard it's hard to say what the actual situation is there, but I I I think you spot on with the proximity stuff. You know, there's been several several several coyote stands I've been on where I've howled and maybe have coyotes answer you, but they're further away than you was kind of wanting them to be, but you still call them up, but you don't call them up with the house. You end up calling them up with, you know, your third or fourth sound, whether it be prey distress, pup distresses, social sounds, fights, whatever. Uh, but I've always said one of your best sounds you'll ever play to call in a coyote is a set a good set of howls if you're close to them. If you get right in a coyote's bedroom, especially those territorial coyotes, and you scream out a big old howl, trust me, they on their feet coming because they're coming to run you off. Yeah. I I'll give you an example of of something that that may help the help them out if they're running into that. I had a guy call me a couple years ago. He wanted me to come. He was fairly local, only about an hour from me. He had permission on a bunch of delta ground that I had never hunted. Had these had a good bit of woods to go with it, but there were a lot of, you know, egg fields and he had been hearing a lot of coats and trying to call them in and he wasn't having any luck. He called me said, "Man, will you come over here and hunt with me?" He said, "I don't think you can call these codes up either." I said, "Well, we'll try it. I may not be able to." But we got over there and as we were riding around, I was talking to him, you know. I said, "What have you been doing?" And he said, 'Well, I've been hearing the coats and these wood blocks. And he said, ' Then I've been setting up on, you know, a tree line or whatever. He said, "I've been getting the wind right." He said, "I just can't." He said, "They'll answer me, but I can't get them to to come in." And so, sure enough, we rode around right there just before daylight and the spots, most of the spots, he said he'd heard coats, we heard coats. We made a few stands that morning and we called up coyotes at all of those spots. 100% call up rate where we had located those coyotes at. The only thing we did different is when I set up I told him I he he was setting up on fence lines and tree lines and trying to call them out across the fields and I just got in the wood block with them. Howled here the coyotes come. So it was 100% a proximity deal and the cos not wanting to break covered across that field you know that type deal. So just being closer to him was the only thing. And then after that, he didn't have any more trouble calling coaches in that area. You know, he just he knew that he needed to set up just a little bit different. He was still using his same house that he was getting a vocal response on, but not only was he getting a vocal response later on, he was getting the coach called up, too. So that was that was the key to it is just position. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's pretty good right there. Um, got another question here. This is from Charlie. Charlie Walters says, "A week ago, Fondress got the deer and coyotes coming to the call. Last night, a couple of deer would look up when I turned on fond stress, but didn't seem to have any interest. Neither did the coyotes. Why did they respond to fawn fond stress one week and then the following week?" Nothing. when we figure that out, we'll have it made then. I don't know the answer then. And that is not surprising because I don't care what sound it is, you know, it can be rabbit distress, it can be your pup distresses, and I don't even think it has anything to do with the sounds a lot of times. It's just for whatever reason on some days and I ain't blaming it on the moon or wind any of that extra voodoo stuff because the coats they they have to eat every day I watch. So I don't know why sometimes everything is triggering and then other days they're not triggering or why sometimes they will turn off on a sound and you'll find another sound that they're triggering on. And I know you I know you know exactly what I'm talking about. Anybody that's ever Oh yeah. done any kind of hunting for any length of time. You'll have that days you'll have those days that are magical and everything is on fire and then the very next day that switch is flipped and you you're doing the same thing in the same area and it's not working. And that applies to fishing, hunting, whatever you're doing. And I don't have a good answer for it other than go again. Don't necessarily give up that that pond distress if it was working good for you, you know, on the previous hunt and then it shut down. It may just be that the coats and the animals were shut down and it may not be the sound. You can go back to that sound. Kind of going back to that first question about pound town. You could be using a sound on a day that the animals are just not active regardless of what the sound is and then go the next hunt and they're running over fondestress again or any other sound. So that's that's the best I got on that. You got you got anything better on that? I I Nope. That's all you. No, I mean it's it's like you said I was uh I ain't hunted much here at home last week or two. We did go make a coyote stand other morning. Just made one stand. Had some coyotes located. Called it up pretty easy. There was a group of coyotes there. For some reason, just one adult showed up. But what made me think just like when you was talking there, I was with Joy Worth a couple weeks ago. The first day with him, man, I don't know. There wasn't too many stands. We made it. We just totally blanked. There was a couple stands and maybe coyotes didn't show up, but man, they were answering us back and you know, all that type of stuff. Uh, but the f the following day, we couldn't buy coyote. Hunting the same dag on area, the same type of stands, was on coyotes from the night before, you know, the whole nine yards using the same sounds that we've been having luck with. Couldn't do nothing with them. First day that was on fire, second day, and I couldn't tell you there's anything different. I mean, very similar. uh as far as you know wind direction stayed the same same temperature outside the whole nine yards it just one day they was working next day they wasn't that was one of the things I thought sure I would I would get some insight and maybe even figure out you know when I started raising these coats and especially watching them do the freerange deal I said man I'm just going to figure all this stuff out and once I get it figured out I'm probably going to come out with something and I'm gonna make a pile of money off of it because I'm doing be the great the greatest coyote collar in the world. Yeah. And I guess I could make up some BS like some of these Red Moon guides and some of that stuff that the deer community follows and and try to make some money off of it. But I've been able to just like what you were just talking about watching the barometric pressure, the moon phase, the wind, everything that you can document, watching that dayto day and everything seems to be the same. And for whatever reason, those cows are active. They're excited. They're up on their feet. They're moving around. They're howling. They're just extremely active. And then the next day, under the same conditions, they're not. And then you can have conditions where they're really active. And you you mark that down and you're like, man, the moon was doing this or the bear metroplexure was doing that. And so you wait until that happens again. And then you see all that stuff line up again. Them cows are out there laying on their side all day long. ain't doing nothing. So, I've never been able to make any kind of reliable correlation as to why some days are good and some days are bad. Well, this next question is practically the same thing. You can give a really short answer to it, but to to answer one good thing to throw in on this for this last question and the question I'm fixing to answer, we've got a really good podcast with with Tori and myself. It's I think it's podcast episode number 41. and it covers um uh hunting different moon phases, weather conditions, temperatures, all that type of stuff. And we give you some pretty detailed insight on that stuff. It's a really good podcast. So, go definitely check out I'm pretty sure it's episode 41. It's about moon phases and all that type of stuff. It's a I I think it's one of our best podcasts we've ever done. So, if you hadn't listened to it, definitely go back and check it out. But here's the next question. This one's from Chris. What makes some days better for predator hunting over other days? So, pretty much the same question really. I mean, yeah, when when the weather's good and everything looks about the same, I don't know. I don't know. Just like what we just talked about. Outside of that, I mean, some things are just obvious with if you have extreme changes in weather or wind or any of that stuff, usually those days are not very good days to pick. So, but if you've got good weather and and stuff, I think that the animals react to stuff a lot like we do in that if you go outside and it feels good and it's a pretty day and you feel that's a good day to hunt. I like to hunt on those days that I feel, you know, and I'll hunt on other days, too. But, yeah, I think those are those are good days to hunt. And I also think they're good days to hunt when you have stable, normal weather conditions. And if you get outside of that, a lot of times you will have a lull in action. You know, if you have some type of major weather change where it be big heat wave come in or whatever. Yep. And and I'm pretty sure on that episode 41, we talk about that pretty extensively. So definitely definitely check it out. Next question here, this is from uh uh Scott Greenley. Um when calling at night, I know you've got tons of experience with night hunting. Yeah, you too. This this probably be a you question. When calling at night, this I think you can answer this pretty good. I think when calling at night with a red light, you're kind of invisible behind the cone of the light. If you're using thermals without a red light, how visible are you to the coyote or fox? Well, on those dark nights and and you're right, I don't have a ton of night hunting experience, but I have been out enough and to I think have a general idea. Those dark nights it's it's easier to hide. So, you can get by with more, you know, regardless of thermal, red light, whatever. The brighter the more lights you have, the easier and farther they can pick you out. So then you have to start trying to do stuff like get in shadows, get background cover, get something to break up your outline so that you can you can hide from those cos that might see you. Yeah. Yeah. U we've got a got a couple podcasts with Chris Robinson and I know he maybe um I can't remember what episode it is. Go back and find the Chris Robinson episodes. I jotted some notes down here the other day. Uh, I put down episodes 67 and 72. I'm pretty sure one of those uh was with Chris Robinson and he's talking about stuff for night hunting and talking about, you know, kind of would probably answer your your question there. And then the other one, I'm pretty sure what I wrote down um for that episode number. Like I said, just go back and look. But we did a podcast not too long ago on coyote senses. And one of the things Tori covered a lot was their eyesight. So, you might find some valuable information in in on that podcast, maybe to to help you with that. But no doubt about it, I've heard Chris Robinson say that's one of the reasons he loves lights. Uh because once you get the lights down on a coyote and they're not spooking on actual light, you can do get away with a lot of stuff behind that beam because they can't see you. Uh, so that's I think that's one of his reasons he he really favors favors lights quite a bit is because how he can hide behind them, but you know he hunts with thermal a lot too. So I don't know. I I that's all I got for you. I'm not a I know I know why with that. I know why they don't ever see John Collins at night. He's in his house. That's right. I'm in a bed probably on a couch. I think I was asleep last night by 8:15. I wasn't in the bed, but I was in the recliner and I was out. Ain't much chance of them seeing you. No, they didn't see me. Or me. I pretty much follow that same schedule. If I don't go down with the sun, I'm shortly behind it. Yeah, boy. I I was laid I was laid up in a rec in a recliner and had where I could stretch out and grab a hold of a good-look woman if I wanted to by that time. So, I'm with you. All right. Here's the next question. This one's from David. This is another This is a great one for you. Kind of right on the same lines we've been on here for. U anyway, David asked, "When coyotes stop responding, what are your next steps? When do you give up and move to another location?"
That's another situational deal. Meaning, why do I think they stopped responding? So if if he's just meaning they stopped responding vocally, that's that's typical of coats. I mean, they're not like turkeys that are just going to answer you over and over and over most of the time. A lot of times you may only get that initial response when you first set out. So it doesn't bother me if if my wind and everything else has stayed good and I don't think I've busted those goats. It doesn't bother me if they're not vocally responding. Now, if I've been there a while and I hadn't had a a response to my calling, meaning that they they hadn't come in, then I'm going to start thinking about why, you know, why have they not shown up? And the first thing I'm going to think about is, am I not sitting in the right spot? Even if I'm in what I think should be close enough, sometimes you're not. And so if I think those coats hadn't moved and they just hadn't shown up, everything else is still good, wind, all that, then I'm probably gonna I'm probably not going to give up on those coats just yet. I'm going to try to push a little bit farther if I can. The flip side of that is if I think I'm sitting in the best spot, I can't get any closer. I've already went through my sequence. I've played my hows. I've played my social sounds. I've went through my pup distresses, my pup fights, my adult fights, and maybe even throw a prey sound in there like pawn or [ __ ] and those coats haven't shown up. I'm probably not going to burn their ears anymore. I'm I'm thinking that something has happened. Maybe they've circled me. Something has has happened. That's pro that's when I'm going to get up and leave those coyotes alone and probably come back, you know, another day. So, it's just it's kind of deciding what you think is going on as to whether or not you you reposition on those guys or you leave. Right. Right. No, I think that's a great answer and just kind of answer the last part of it. You know, when to give up and move to another location. You know, if I played all the sounds that I really wanted to play that I thought should get a trigger out of the coyotes, um I'm getting up and leaving. And usually it's going to be somewhere in the 15 to 25 minute range. I'll normally never set past 25 minutes on any given stand unless I've got one that's just right there out of sight screaming at me, you know, and it's not booger barking. Uh, other than that, I'm going to usually give coyotes, no matter what, at least 15 minutes to get them to come in. So that's kind of my magical time frame there. You know, 15 to 25 minutes, nothing showed up depending on the year, depending on the stand, you know, the, you know, everything. So, every situation is different, but 15 to 25 minutes if they ain't there and I played the sounds I think they should have showed up to, I'm going to another stand. Yeah. Yep. Here's a question from Ryan. He says, "I went to a 50 acre cut hay field the other night. There were three coyotes in the field when I showed up and scanned it. I watched them for a while and then tried some mouse distress and then went into some coyote house. They heard it but did not come towards the call at all. What would you have done if you had shown up and a coyote's already in the field? And he's referring to a 50 acre cut hay field at night. At night it sound like Yep. He said he's scanned. So, I'm assuming he's using a thermal scanner and scanning them up. Well, most them boys are going to pick up and walk to them with the wind in their favor and shoot them if they don't come to the south. You know, that's that's the option. I ain't much on I mean, I don't care. I don't care if I don't call them up. I don't care anything about killing them. I don't have anything against somebody sniping them however they want to snipe them. But that's one option. uh on the calling side of it, another situational question to where, you know, I'm going to look at what my options are, you know, do I is where I'm standing. Is that is that the only option? If it is, then I'm probably going to run through because you you played a howl and a and basically a coaxing type sound. So there's still a lot of possible triggers in your sound, you know, on your remote for you to go through to possibly trigger that code. That's a an option if I think I, you know, I don't have another play. If I can get closer, that's going to be the first thing I do. And so it's it's just kind of a situational deal. But if I've if I'm looking at them in the field and they don't come on a mouse or whatever sounds you play a couple of, first thing I'm going to try to do is is reposition, get a little bit closer. And once I've got into the best position that I think I can get in, then I'm going to run through my typical sequence of multiple sounds from different trigger categories to try to hit a sound that those coyotes will respond to if I don't want to, you know, just walk out there and hide, you know, hide under the cover of darkness and get close enough to shoot them. Yeah. Yeah. I actually remember this question when I've when I've looked at it. There was some guys that responded to uh Ryan. I think it's a really cool question. I I really like it because I think Ryan is probably a lot like uh you and I. You know, he wants to call these coyotes up and shoot them. You know, there's people plenty of people said, "Well, it's just a 50acre field. Just go ahead and shoot them. They're probably in range." Well, I think I think Ryan wants to call them up. That's that's I don't know how many coyotes I've passed up over the years that I didn't shoot just because I didn't call them up. Now, I know that might sound crazy to some, but listen, I I've shot plenty of dag on things. I mean, what I live for, the reason I do it is that interaction that of you know that I want to call them up. That's what I'm that's the reason I do it. I want to call the coyote up. If I don't call it up, I don't you know, I just don't care. So, I think that's what Ryan's wanting to do. And what I would say, Ryan, is just keep going through sounds, especially if you can still see them. and they haven't ran off, it won't take very long, just a few seconds to see how they're going to respond to the call. If they still don't show no interest or if they start moving away or if they start coming to you or whatever, but you can see the reaction to each sound that you hit. I just start bumping through sounds at different social sounds, different pup distresses, try some different prey distresses, try some fights, try whatever you hopefully you would eventually hit a sound that's going to make have a positive reaction out of them. U that's been on I could tell you and I have done that before. I don't know how many times I've walked up uh over the years and I'm talking about for the last you know ever since the late 90s you come into a a a field and see coyotes and then you you know they haven't smelt you they don't see you. They're just out there mousing or laid up or whatever and start hand calling to them or uh hitting sounds on a on a Fox Pro or whatever and they know they don't even look up or we'll look up and just look back down and go about their business and then somehow you magically hit the right sound and there it is. It's turned on. They come running to you. That's happened many of times. You just has to hit that right trigger. and just so you know, I don't know how new he is to it. There are going to be those situations where you're going to run across coyotes that for whatever reason, you never hit the magic sound. And it doesn't mean that you done anything wrong. Sometimes coyotes are just not calling. That's that's part of it. You know, I don't care if it's coats, turkeys, or whatever. I know everybody thinks that when there's a coat there, it should always come to the call. But there are times where it may be that particular coat and it's we've talked about that. You know the some coyotes I don't think are very susceptible to calling. And then you've got other ones going back to our earlier conversation about for whatever reason some days coyotes are just not they just ain't acting like you want them to act. And you may go back the very next night in the same field and have the same three coats and you kick on that mouse squeak that you that wouldn't even make their head and they run over the call. I don't know why, but that that happens. Yep, it does for sure. U see, let's move right along. Here's one here. We got a couple here that uh for bobcats says this is from Trevor. says, "I live in an area with bobcats, but very few of them. What tips would you give someone trying to get their very first bobcat?"
You more on the bobcat deal than I am, but but what I would say is, you know, if you've seen Bobcats are typically, I think, pretty easy to call if you know where the cat is at. So that would be the first thing is knowing trying to know where either because you've seen it, somebody else has seen it or because you've seen tracks or some something to let you know that a cat is pretty close, especially if you don't have very many of them. That would be the number one thing. And then as far as the sounds and stuff, I've called cats up on all kinds of of sounds, but I tend to favor stuff like I like u goody woody woodpecker. I like um Box Pros got some of the better bobcat sounds for sure like KG Cottontail. And you take that part of the question because you you call a lot more cows. I actually call a lot of them on young [ __ ] distress too which is an oddball sound but um for cats but you probably better at answering the cat question than me. You call up more of them than I do. Well, one thing I would say, we actually do have three excellent, excellent podcast on Bobcats. Uh, number 11, number 37, and episode 64 are all very Bobcat heavy. 11. Put him in touch with Corey Gra. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And 11 and episodes 11 and 37s, they're all about bobcats and it's pretty indepth. You know, we're talk go on everything from scouting, uh, stand setup, um, call, e-coll placement, what sounds we use, and give several different, uh, sound sequences. I mean, a really good podcast. I definitely would drive you towards those. And just like Tori said, bobcats are probably actually, in my opinion, the easiest predator to call up. Uh, the only reason that some people don't call too many of them up is because they don't have too many. You know, if you have a lot more coyotes, you know, it's just how it is. Uh usually if you don't have a lot of bobcats in your area, uh scouting will go a long way uh to get you right close to those bobcats. Usually if you're close to a bobcat and you start playing some prey distress sounds, they're going to show up. They're pretty they're usually pretty easy to call in. And generally I'm playing anywhere if it takes this many three to five different prey distress sounds. And I really think you can pick about any of them. But I do really like the cottontail rabbit distress sounds myself. Uh, sounds like uh Baby Cottontail from Fox Pro. Um, KG Cottontail, Mrs. Mc Cottontail, Adult Cottontail, Eastern Cottontail. All of those are very, very, very good Bobcat calling sounds. And I've called and even there's a lot of good rabbit sounds from MFK as well. Cocktail sauce. I've called cats to that. Um, is it is it broke cotton? Is that right? Broke cotton. Rose bush cotton. Rose bush cotton. Yep. I actually just released a video with the FoxPro X360 on uh the FoxPro page just the other day of uh a Bobcat coming to Rose Bush Cotton, I'm pretty sure. So, I mean, all those are really good sounds. Y'all might hear a dog barking. I got a blue healer that's going nuts out here. Sorry about that, guys. In the background. Might be a bobcat out there now, or he's just barking. I don't know. But anyway, there's probably a UPS guy, tell you the truth. Y'all just going to have to I know you're all going to be able to hear it. I'm sorry. I can't do nothing about it. But anyway, just find you good three, four, five different rabbit distress sounds that you really like. Play them four to six minutes a piece and I guarantee you if you're on top of bobcats, they will come to you. And usually a lot of times when you'll see them show up is in when you start up that second or third uh rabbit sound for some reason. some some reason they really like a short pause and then going into a sound that's a little bit different with a different cadence, different speed, pitch, and all that type of stuff. But they're usually pretty easy to call up. Check those podcast out that I mentioned. Podcast 11, 37, and 64. They're really good ones with Cory Grath. He kills a ton of bobcats every year. They're really good ones. You got a dog barking and I've got popup thunderstorm and the raindrops. I think there's a little bit of hail mixed in it. So, I don't know if you hear that beating the f I do my truck right now. That's what that is. Dog barking in a thunderstorm. So, yeah, we may have some noise pollution on this one. Hey, we Hey, that's the thing with me and me and Tori. We're uh we're definitely don't ever record these things in a studio. We're in the We're in the wilds. I might be in the house, but I basically got two wild animals in here with me. these dang healers. But yeah, I'm sitting on my heel as usual where I got a enough bars to talk to you. Well, here's a here's another Bobcat question. This one's comes from Raymond. He says, "What do you look for when you are targeting bobcats for a setup? What type of terrain, timber, thickets, gullies, creeks, corn fields, etc.? What are you looking for for for bobcat stands?" I mean, he kind of answered it. I would say he kind of answered it there with the tail end of the question. Any of those things that are that are likely to hold cats in the area that you're in. For me, it's the nastiest stuff I can find. And everything down here is nasty. But the cats seem to if the nasty the nastiest of the nasty that tends to be where and a lot of times they're a lot of times I find the cats in lowlying areas that have water and stuff down here where I'm at. Rivers and creeks and you know stuff like they're usually on the edges of where that higher ground kind of meets that and it usually is really nasty where that higher ground they'll come in and clear cut that stuff and it grows up and you know just the thickest nastiest stuff you can imagine. And that's what I'm calling cat cats out of when I call cats here. Um, but again going back to that other question, what I'm usually looking for is some kind of cat sign regardless of what the cover is because if you can find where the where the cat is and you get close to that, usually you can you can call them up. So I if I'm targeting cats, I want to know there's a cat there either by seeing it, seeing some tracks, seeing where things have cracked and scratched in the road or something. Yep. Yep. That that's that's key. It really is. If you're on cats, if you're if you're in close proximity of a bobcat, you're going to call it up if you run through some prey distress sounds or and it don't really, you know, I said cottonail distress sounds earlier, but bird dist bird distress sounds work great. I've called them up on multiple different woodpeckers, other birds, cottontail sounds, jack rabbit uh distress sounds, snowshoe hair sounds, raccoon distresses. I've called them up to a little bit of everything. And I've heard of I've actually had bobcats show up on Coyote Fights before. I think I had one show up to pound town once. Now I had been playing rabbit before that. Uh but you know, well, you know, we've I think me and you have theorized about that before because I've had I don't know how I've done it. You've done it. I've had multiple messages, seen piles of post where people will call up bobcats on some of these fight sounds. And one of the things that I've noticed that's in common with a lot of those fights that they're calling these cats on, they are food fight type stuff. And we've I know we've talked about this in podcast before. Coyotes recognize there are certain sounds in a food fight like the chewing and the the growling associated with it that coaches for sure recognize it as food related and that fight being related to food. I think cats do the same thing and trigger on it and think they're going to come in there and and take it away or something. But yeah, no telling what you call them things up on. But but to answer Raymond's question there about what type of train you're looking for, Tori said it right there. Just usually, you know, if you're if you've got bobcat signing areas, of course, that's that's key right there. But usually the stuff that I look for besides for bobcat, the actual bobcat sign itself is usually the nastiest of the nasty type terrain. The thickest stuff you can find. That seems to be what they really really key in on. That's what they like. That's usually what I'm calling them out of. Let's move right along to uh let's see here. This is a question from Jared and Michael. They ask, "What kind of effect do environmental factors like moon phase, temperature, feeding times, and barometric pressure have on honey?" Now, like this big storm you're setting through, how many coyotes you think you call up in that? Well, during it, I think it I think stuff like that, going back to what we were talking about earlier, I think that puts them in a lull for sure. But it's all that other stuff. And like you said, you you already mentioned the podcast that we covered in detail. Episode 41. I think I know that there are people out there that buy into that and believe in it. I was one of them that wanted to buy into it and believe in it because I thought I could use it to help me decide when to hunt deer and coats and everything else. But at this point, especially after raising coats, following there's so much GPS data out there now, too, that's just undeniable. They're animals have to survive every day regardless of what the moon does, regardless of the pressure, all that kind of stuff. So they and when I'm watching the coyotes that I raise, you know, doing their deal just like a wild cow would, you know, they're surviving the same way. I can't find any reliable information to say today's a good day, today's a bad day. You'll have good days with a full moon. You'll have bad days with a full moon. I think people just have a tendency to look for an excuse when it's a bad day and they tie that to something. So they'll say, "Well, it was a bad day." And then they see the moon in the sky, they're like, "Man, that dang moon's got to be what it is." Same thing with barometric pressure and all that kind of stuff. But so now I still pay attention to some of that stuff just because I'm trying to I'm trying to find some link to it. For example, the other day I come home and there were deer all over the highway. This was 2 o'clock in the afternoon. I it and I drive that stretch regular. You usually don't see many deer. For whatever reason, every deer in the woods was out there on the side of the highway at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Heat of the day, humid. And I said, man, I was talking to a buddy as I was driving. We got on the moon deal. I said, "Well, as soon as I get to the house, I'm gonna pull up that date and time deal where you can check all the moon phases, overhead, underfoot. You know, I know all of the the little details and how all that stuff is supposed to line up for move times and stuff like that." Well, I got to the house, looked it up. Guess what? It's right opposite of what the moon would have predicted for moon in these times. Right. Oh, and I've done that a thousand times. And then another day you may check it and get home, you see all them deer or whatever off deer stand, highway, whatever. Coach, too. You get home, check it, and boy, it lines up. And then you want to you want to tie that to something, but it just never holds. I've never been able to make it hold any kind of consistency or reliability to where you could predict movement. So, I just go hunting. If it's a good day outside of extreme, you know, I wouldn't go in this hail storm I'm sitting in. But if it's a good day, I would hunt and I would ignore all that other stuff. Yeah. Our next question here, this is uh this will be some good coyote education stuff here. Next couple, this is from Cody Thompson. Cody is asking, "What's the home range of a dominant pair of coyotes? How far do they typically roam?" So what how big is their area
that varies. I mean there's I've looked at a lot of research papers on that kind of stuff and it's kind of all over the place and I think part of the reason for that depending on what research paper you look at. I think there are many factors like the food source quality but the main thing is population densities of cows. You know, when you have more coats and a heavier population, their home range tends to be smaller and it also overlaps. When you get into lower distances densities, a lot of times the density is lower because the food resources and just the habitat resources are not as good. So right along with that and it makes sense their their home range and the areas they use are bigger because they have to be bigger for them to get the same amount of resources that you know a coyote in a different area could get from a smaller area. So it's kind of all over the place from what I've read research wise and I have no way to back it up other than to just go with what the papers say. And this is not BS stuff put out by, you know, animal rights group. These are like universities and stuff that are just doing unbiased tests on animal behavior. Seven miles seems to be like a kind of like a good average if you just wanted to put a number on it as far as their overall home range. And then usually they're going to have a core area that's more like two miles or something like that that they use more often. That's where you'll find your pumpering areas, your den, you know, the stuff like that. So, that's a it's kind of a broad answer to it, but I think it varies so much depending on, you know, your habitat resources and your coyote densities from one area to the next. Yep. Next question is from Rhett Parish. How how far will a coyote travel during the breeding season? I mean, who knows? And it also you you get into stuff like that with what kind of co are you talking about? If you're talking about a mated pair, they're not traveling very far. They're staying in whatever their home range is. Now, if you're talking about a transient coat that is trying to establish a home range and pair with a female, that thing takes off and never stops. I mean, there's been documented cases over and over and over. I mean, you see it sometimes on Facebook where somebody will kill a coat that's got a tracking collar on and when they call it in, all of a sudden that thing was, you know, it was caught two states over from where it was killed in. That thing's just been straight lining because it's a transient coat that's covering ground. So, it depends on what kind of coach you're talking about. those transients that are looking for pairing opportunities and and trying to establish a home range travel as far as it takes to find one of those spots miles upon miles. And then your paired cos are not traveling that much at all. They're staying within that home range and breeding. You know, that that paired set of coyotes are staying right there breeding. I mean, I documented a couple pairs this past winter and they're not covering much ground at all. They're staying right there where they're going to den. They're doing their breeding and staying in a in a fairly tight spot. Yeah. Yeah. The next question is from Bradley Sturgeon. What happens to transit coyotes during pup rearing season? And are those transate coyotes vocal?
Well, your transient cows are doing the same thing during pup rearing season that they're doing any other time of the year. If they are transient, that means that they have already dispersed. They're not part of, you know, of a family group. So, if they're a transient, they've already dispersed. They're not part of any family group and they're just covering ground. They're they're the cows that are passing through a property and they may never return. And whether or not they're vocal, it's hard to know. Yes, trans all coaches are vocal. That's how they communicate. That's how they go about. But I don't think that your transient coaches are going to be vocal like your family groups are. So, if you've got a family group of cos that have an established pup rearing area, those are the cows we're targeting this time of the year that are aggressively vocal because they are they are right there on that den and pup rearing area and they're defending that area. Two transient coyotes that are passing through or or anything else that may get too close to that den puping area where your transients are not participating in that. So, They're traveling looking to a step. They're looking for a hole. They're looking for where we've went in there and killed a code and there's an opportunity for them to take, you know, take a spot in an area that has good habitat that to where they can establish a home range. So, that's kind of what's going on with transient coyotes throughout the year. They're moving looking for a hole to fill, looking for a spot to to become a, you know, a resident co. And outside of that, regardless of what's going on with the rest of the cows, those transients are covering ground and they're not going to be as vocal simply because they're not participating in those family groups. Yep. Next question is from Wayne. He asked, "When the coyote pups are raised, do the adults stay in the dining area or do they move away?
All right. If I'm following that question, I I'll try to answer it all the way through. So, as those So, once the pups are born, they're in the den area, the the adults stay pretty tight to the den. As those pups come out of the den and they they're sometimes moved to a pup rearing area or the den area becomes the pup rearing area and they no longer use the den. Either way, those adults still stay pretty tight to that area. But as those pups get in the pupering area, the adults will start spending time outside of that puperin area. There's a boundary on those pups. They have a distance that they will go and they won't get outside of. The adults will spend a lot of their time outside that area kind of like satellites around the pups. They will come in and out checking on the pups, but they almost use it like a play pin and an opportunity to get away from those pups where they'll bed and fool around outside of that pup rear area. Then as those pups get older and you get into what we're kind of getting into right now with family bust up starting up, those pups will begin, depending on the pecking order, the lowest ranking pups will start getting pushed out first, mainly by the other pups in the litter. and they're what leaves the adult pup I mean the adult couches are going to stay in that area that's already their home range and those pups will as family bust up takes place you will start having some pups that will begin to actually truly pup disperse and we've talked about the difference between pup dispersal and family bust up but the pups are what leave the area and adults will stay there and sometimes you will have One or two of those what were higher ranking pups a lot of times stay on females. Most of the males will eventually get pushed out by if not other litter mates pushed out by the adults eventually. Sometimes they'll stay on for a year or two too. But sometimes you'll the adults are going to stay regardless. Sometimes you'll have a pup or two that will stay on in that home range. But eventually all of the pups end up in a different area and the adults that were already there stay there. Yep. Yep. Did I answer that right? That is what the question was asking, wasn't it? Yeah, I think you cover I thought I think you covered it really really well. I think that's I think that was pretty much spot on. Let's see what else we got here. All right, this one is from Grant. If a stand has red fox and coyotes in the same area, what's the best way to double dip? You go with that one. I mean, probably shoot what comes in and keep calling. But I don't I don't do much red fox. I don't have much red. I call it a red fox occasionally, but it's it's very rare. I mean, if it were me, I guess what I would do is probably start off with something and whichever one of them showed up first, I'd shoot and then I'd keep calling. Yeah. Yeah. I I think you'd pretty much That is weird. I've actually caught I was going to say you stick to coyote vocals for one and and pray distress for the other. The funny thing is I've actually caught red fox up for the to pup distresses. Yeah. Uh, I've got one of the best pictures, best photos I've ever took in my life is of a red fox that came screaming in the pup distress number three. What the thing was, and I've heard other people talk about that, too. So, it's a really good question. I would think if you were going into an area and say fox season was in, and of course, you know, you're you're kind of wanting to cast that broadest net where maybe you have the chance to to call in both and like you were saying, double dip. I'd probably start off pretty heavy with some prey distress sounds, whether it be birds or rabbits or whatever. Play through a couple of them, two or three of them, and hopefully you can get that fox to come in and get it knocked down. Then I would quickly switch in to coyote vocals right after that. You know, howls and uh submissive sounds and fights and all that type of stuff. And you never know, you might get lucky where you actually call both in on the same stand and double dip and get them both out of there. It'd be pretty cool picture. You have your red fox and a coyote off the same stand. Yeah, that start I mean you you nailed it on that. Starting with the prey distress and then going to the same thing if you're trying to call a bobcat or or a gray fox or something like that. Starting with the prey distress and saving those vocals to the end to try to get, you know, both. That's that's the the better answer. You covered it better than I did. Here's another good one from Ryan. How long do you wait until you revisit a stand? If you shoot an animal today, would you go back tomorrow and call it again? I will. I mean, I will hammer a spot if the coach are there, especially if I'm calling them in, you know, and and again, kind of talking about family bust up right now where you've got big groups of coyotes where you can kill multiple coats off of off of one stand, but I'll even do it in the winter time. I've done this several times where you go in, especially if you kill the female first, you can wait just an hour or two, and I prefer to do it on the same day. I've done this several times where you go back and set right back down. You'll call that other coat there or other two or three coats back up. But I'm if if I go in, Joey Worth was just down here. We called in coaches, killed coach. Soon as he left, I turned around, went right back to those spots where I knew there were still coats left over in those groups, called them right back in, killed them, you know, just a couple days after he left. So, um, as long as the coaches are there and I'm not having blank stands in those areas, I'll keep hammering them. Yep. Yep. Um, Art has a similar question. How many times can you call the same area before the coyotes catch on to you? It depends. I mean, if going back to what I just said, if you if you go to an area and you call in coats and you kill coats or you have a successful stand, the coaches come up and then you go back and you have success again, then I would I'm fine with going back as long as I'm having success. Now, if I start if I've already been two or three times and then I go back and I have a blank stand, then I'm probably not going to keep, you know, going in there burning those coyotes up. I'm going to give it a break. But as long as you're having success, especially if you're going in there getting the coyotes killed, I think you can keep, you know, keep after it as long as it's producing, keep taking advantage of it. Yep. Yep. Here's a question from Philip Law. He asked, "How long do you run initial house?" I always hear a set of houses. What does that actually sound like? Is that 5 seconds of house? Is that 10 seconds of house, etc. So, when they're talking about a set or a series of house, anytime I record a coat, a lot of times they're going to do anywhere from three or four to six or seven house. So, if you're listening to, you know, if you if you've got your Fox Pro remote out and you listen, one of the easier ways to figure out, especially from all the newer MFK house, is I put a 10se second approximately 10 second pause after the house series. So whether that be three or four hows or six or seven hows in a series, you'll get that 10 second break and that's to give you a chance to pause or mute the call after that how series completes. Another way because some of on some of the earliest MFK house there is no break. So they'll loop immediately. So it's harder to figure out what that series is and you got to be ready to mute pretty quick. And that's just because when those sounds were edited, uh, I wasn't doing the sound editing at the time. We didn't know we wanted that pause in there to mute the call. So, it's a little bit harder to figure out the series of hows. One way that you can do that is to go into your remote and take take it off of the loop feature so that it will play y whatever the series of house whatever the sound file is it will play that and then it will stop and it won't loop it. So, that's another way that you can do it on your house to figure out what those series are on your calls. And then once you learn it, you can turn your loop feature back on if you want it to and you'll know where to mute your call after it does a full series of house. But there is no set number on how many houses a cow does in a series. It's usually somewhere between, you know, three to seven or eight house. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a perfect answer there. I'm pretty guilty of throwing that term out there, set of house. I say that a lot in a lot of our videos and stuff like that, but just what Tori said, uh, just to sum it up is I don't let that sound file loop. It's just running out that sound file for what? From its start to end. And like Tori said, you know, take it out of the loop setting in your remote. You can learn a lot of those fairly easily by just listening to them. But yeah, a set of hows is just that series of hows and I don't let it loop and start all over again. Just just whatever its actual start to end recording is that that's a set of hows. That's my definition of a set of house if that makes sense. Yeah. Let's see. I think we got time for maybe one or two more. Here's a good one here. This is from Scott Pal. What is your decision makingaking process for sitting tight or moving? This is if you're not hearing any coyotes c howling back to you. Uh going right back to that earlier question we answered where it's situational. If I think that I'm sitting in the best spot that I can be in to call those calls, I can't get any closer. You know, I'm I'm sitting in the spot that I think is best. And I've already ran through the sounds, you know, that that I think should trigger the cos. That's probably going to wind that stand up for me. And then the other option is if I've sat there, I've had a vocal response, they hadn't answered me anymore, they hadn't shown up, but I think those cows are still there, and I think I have a move, then I'm going to make that move. And usually I decide to do that before I get through a whole what I would call a whole sequence. So, if I sit down and I howl and coach answer me and I think I might can call them up from from right here, but I might not be close enough. I know I've still got a little bit of move room on them. And I go through my series of howls and I think, well, I'm gonna try to call them up from here because I might be close enough. I really don't want to go to the trouble to move. Then I may howl again. I don't get a vocal response then. And then I go into one or two of those social sounds and those coats don't show up. I'm probably not going to give them the rest of my sequence right there. I'm going to go ahead and get up and make that move that that play that I know I've got left. I'm going to go ahead and make that play right then because a lot of times you can set back down. And when I set back down, I'm going to start my sequence over. I'm going to go right back to my lone house because I have moved closer. That's pressure. That is another trigger. So, I'll go right back to my house. whatever my startup and I may play a different higher than I played or I might play the same one that they initially vocalized to. I don't think that matters that much. We covered that when Joey was on. But y I will start my sequence back over after I move and a lot of times I'll get those cos called up on those hows then or on those social sounds. But once I get if that's if that's my last play, I run through my sequence of sounds all the way through to my fights and then I leave if they if those coasts don't show up. Yep. Yep. That's pretty spot-on in my opinion. I ain't got nothing else to add to that. And I think that's pretty much going to wrap us up. We've been on here gaining on a minute or hour and 10 minutes. So that's that's that's plenty long. People gonna get tired of this to us, I'm afraid. So, we might have to save some of these for the for the next one. Especially I hear all that rain. I'm afraid you're going to drown. Can you hear? I can hear it. Yeah, man. It's coming. I mean, it is coming down. Ain't even been But that's some of that Arkansas weather for you. I guess weather everywhere. The weather man, I don't know what they pay that sucker, but he he had sunshine in my forecast today. He needs fired. Well, you got anything you anything you'd like to leave us with? Hey, appreciate all these questions. They've been fun to answer and uh everybody responded well. Appreciate everybody listening and using MFK and Fox Pro. Hope y'all kill a pile. Yep. Like I said, this is part two of our question and answer series. We'll have part three up soon as well. Part three is going to cover some stuff. Some industry questions. Uh that's hunting industry questions. uh self-filming questions. People ask pretty, you know, intrigued by self- filming. Then we have several other questions that uh they're kind of odds and end type stuff uh for some more situational type stuff and some coyote behavior that we're going to carry over to the next episode. It'll be a really good one. Um we hope you guys uh enjoy this episode. Hopefully you guys be thinking about Tori. Hopefully he doesn't get washed down in a river or lake or something all this rain. But like I said, hope everyone enjoyed this episode. We hope you join us again right here on the Fox Pro podcast.