Join Jon Collins and Tory Cook as they discuss MFK's newest sounds.
Welcome to the FoxPro podcast brought to you by FoxPro [music] Game Calls. Welcome back to the FoxPro podcast. There's going to be plenty of sound file discussion on this episode and I've got a familiar guest joining me, Mr. Tory Cook. How are you doing today, buddy? Oh, I'm doing a lot better. I'm recovering from all this Arkansas ice, which is a rarity down here. It's finally finally throwing out. Me, too. I'm I'm almost like it must be worldwide ice because everywhere you talk or everywhere you look and everybody you talk to, they've got this winter storm that's coming through here lately. And I tell you what, it's it it actually warmed up here a little bit today and it's starting to soften up and and trying to leave. But this is probably the longest stretch of s sustained consecutive days of just bad frigid temps. It's crazy. Yeah, it must be pretty much nationwide up. We had a guy come all the way down here to southeast corner of Arkansas, Louisiana. He was from Iowa, north uh northwest Iowa, I think he said. Anyway, drove all the way down here. He told me he never got out of ice the whole trip from straight through. So, yeah, I don't I don't envy that. I didn't, you know, definitely didn't want to be traveling in it. And that was the thing. We were supposed to, you know, Tori and I were supposed to get linked up down in Texas with Chris Robinson for our annual trip we do with him. And we we had to call that off because of this weather. It's like when it initially hit was the week we were going. Yeah. Yeah. That was I hated it. But because that's always a good trip, but Yeah. Always a fun one. It just wasn't We didn't have much much way around it. You can't control the weather. [laughter] That is that is a truth. But speaking all this crazy white stuff on the ground and bad cold temps, have you have you had any opportunity to go calling in the last little bit? I know I've had some cabin fever was getting the best of me. I had to go out just a few times. Yeah. Yeah. Went out a few times and uh used some of these sounds we're going to talk about and they they were doing pretty good. But it's uh I'm just now getting really cranked up on the coats again after of course bow hunting all [snorts] fall fall and winter. But I I was ready to get back on the coats and and have here in the last week and that that snow and ice kind of sparked it. I let that stuff get here and then after it sat on the ground for a day or two, I figured the coach would would call decent and we had a couple had got a few pretty good stands. I I kind of took a little bit of break from hunting here close to home. Uh we filmed some of stuff, you know, back in December, then went out in Kansas, made a few stands and actually run down to Florida and hunt a little bit down there. had a great time with buddy Jacob Mayfield. But come back home, this weather hit and uh tell on myself, man, I have I don't know. I don't know if I just having a stretch of bad luck or losing my touch or what, but I have had two horrible coyote sands here lately. And I've told you I told you about them on the phone. One one of them is one of the prettiest callins you'll ever see. And you'll actually see part of that call in if you go to the FoxP Pro Facebook page and you'll see two coyotes coming shoulderto-shoulder up through this little snowy gap there. It's a little small field next to the woods. Man, they stopped up there pretty as could be. And I I sent the first shot out with my shotgun and just pretty much shot over top of the first coyote. I mean, horrible shot. Caught it with part of the load. And I hate doing that, but it spun and run off. And you know, your split second thinking I'm like, "Well, that coyote's dead." You know, cuz I'm thinking in my head, I hit him good. He just want to run a few yards. So, I just automatically swing to its partner and shoot it and absolutely stone cold chill it. I mean, just hammered it. So, guess what? Go down there. One's laying there. The first coyote I shot is gone. I tracked that thing plumbed down to a creek up other hillside forever. Found blood and all this stuff and watched it back and kind of see where how it hit. But just a heartbreaker. Heartbreer. Should have been a double. Yeah. Long story short, should have been a double and only walked out there with a single and then had another stand of the day. Should have had another double. Called one to uh Baby Cottontail and then switched over. It kind of went back in the woods on me. It went right into MFK table scraps, which one of my hot buttons there, you know, just one of my favorite sounds, especially after I play a prey distress sound. Well, here it starts to come back out. Then right out of the left corner of my eye, here comes a second coyote in from the opposite direction. And I could have killed that coyote and I was just kind of holding off on a better shot and ended up letting both them suckers get away from me. Now, if I was just hunting, I'd have had a double there, but I ain't got no excuses. I should have had four coyotes on the ground out of those two stands. I only killed one of them. So, y'all smacked me on the wrist or cut my shirt tail, whatever. All that stuff people do. I don't know. It's bad. I'm hurting. I'm hurting from it. Yeah, [snorts] I told you. I guess we was rubbing off on each other with with some of that stuff cuz I had a couple real similar stands during the deal. And I don't know. I blame it on that self- filming a lot. There's when you're going back and forth between the between the camera and the gun and you're doing all and the remote and you're doing it all by yourself sometimes you you screw up. That's just all it is to it. But [sighs] anyway, well I guess I guess it beat I guess that beats a blank stand though. At least you had action. Oh, I love s Yeah, I mean it was awesome. And you know I don't know. You know how it is. You call coyote and you won't get them knocked down. I've always, especially if you call in more than one. I've always said when you call multiples in, when the smoke clears, you better have multiples laying on the ground. My gosh, it's bad when you call more than one coyote up and then every one of them leave unscathed. [laughter] Yeah, even though it's just two, it hurts. Yeah, it does. It will hurt your feeling. Definitely will. But it happens every once in a while. Well, [clears throat] we'll get right into the the topic at hand. And uh like I said earlier, we're going to be talking about some sound file stuff. You know, we get asked about new sound file releases pretty often. And you know, hey, I get it. Uh I love me some new killer sounds myself, but there are reasons why we're not just constantly constantly releasing sound files every couple weeks. Um, everyone has heard the phrase quality over quantity, right? On this episode, we'll discuss just that. And guess what? There is some new sounds. There is a new sound package release for the 2026 breeding season. And we'll let Tori talk about that because they are from MFK. So, new breeding season soundfire releases. You want to tell us about a handful of them there, Tori? Yeah, I got uh I got seven or eight here. I talk about pretty quick. I think uh got a few more than that that we'll eventually release, but we'll start with some of the some of the good ones. And some of these uh we used on that Texas trip last year, which was a year ago, a little better than a year ago now. And that's talking about why sometimes it takes so long before we release sounds and the quality over quantity deal. It's because once I get these sounds recorded at a certain time of the year, like breeding season last year when these sounds were recorded, by the time we get these sounds tested and go through everything that's recorded and then sort through the good from the bad or get to the cream of the crop, so to speak, takes a little while to release those sounds so that when people buy them, they can buy knowing that the sounds have already called up coats. And that's the deal with these sounds. And uh some of them, a couple of them that we used on that Texas trip last year that were standouts, both breeding sounds. One was called broke up Bratz. It'll be releasing or is released the time y'all listen to this podcast. It'll be available. Uh broke up Bratz was that's hot females. They're right up in each other's face getting with it. It's a unique sound. It's a killer sound. It is a legit breeding sound recorded in the wild in a natural setting. And then another one was girls gone wild and it is just an amped up version of hot female coats that are getting after it. Another killer sound that we used in Texas. Um going to release another one called hot and spicy. That is another good one that is between a new pair of coyotes that are they're in the early stages where they're just about she's just about ready to let him tie up and he's harassing her. He knows it. Uh he knows she's about ready so he's putting pressure on her and they're kind of bickering back and forth. Uh and before long they tie up and this hot and spicy sound was recorded during that process. So, it's a it's a really good one. Another one that uh I've had a good bit of success with in these last few uh stands that I've made here this week and uh I told you about it. It's called Love Song. Oh, yeah. I played it. I played it this morning. That is Man, it it's going to be killer for sure. They they vocalize good to it and they come into it and it's a pair how and they do just a little bit of bickering right on the end of it. But it's uh it's a killer. Like I said, I've used it. All of these sounds have been used successfully um for like I said a year. These sounds have been used for a year. test it on the MFK cows to begin with to see how they react to it and then we'll take them out and hunt with them. Um, a couple of other ones that are that are pretty good. I've got a couple coyote [ __ ] pipes that are come out coming out. One of them's called Coyote [ __ ] Keill. And there's another one that I have had I recorded this sound, put it together way back when I first started recording sounds and forgot about it. Stuck it in a folder and forgot about it. Oh, no. Yeah. It's called Koi Pup and [ __ ] Fight. And Heath Johnson that you know, I think he's Fox Pro. Yep. [snorts] He's hooked up with Fox Pro. He's the one he called me asking me for a sound like that. And I said, "You know what? That that reminded me that I had the sound." So, I pulled it out, started using it, and the very first time I played it, hard charger. I think I've played the sound with [sighs] I'm trying to think about every time I've turned it on I've called coach to it. So it's a really good one. That's the the koi the koi pup and [ __ ] fight. Is this the one you're talking about? Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about. And then there's another one that u is coyote. So koi pup and [ __ ] fight is a is a cow pup and [ __ ] And then [ __ ] kill is adult coat and [ __ ] Um, and then another one that I'm really I told you about this one too that I'm pretty proud of this recording. It is not necessarily the cleanest recording that I've ever got, but it's pretty dead gum clean for what it is, and it's extremely unique. It's nothing is mixed about this sound. A lot of sound guys mix a lot of sounds and there's nothing wrong with that. But this is a legit sound. Every aspect of this sound was made by coaches doing their thing. And it's it's real unique. I told you about it. I had a there were three coats involved in this. Two males and a female. And the dominant male of those two males was it was Little Heathen and Hood. Little Heeden was the dominant of those two coats. and so he could push hood around. Little bee was the female involved. She had no interest in Little Hedon. So, she ends up pairing with Hoodlm even though he wasn't the dominant male of the two males. So, I got some really unique stuff because when little be paired up with Hoodlm, Hoodlam was still trying to push I mean little little Heeden was still trying to push Hoodlum around. So, I was getting some sounds based on that. But when Little B and Hoodlam would gang up on Little Heathen, they would whoop the dominant male. And I ended up getting just a crazy series. This this recording lasted for a couple days on and off with them doing this, trying to get that pair bonding down and the whole deal cuz Little Eden was still trying to he was still trying to push Hoodum away. Anyway, ended up with some crazy sounds between those three coyotes with the dominant male jumping on the subordinate male and then the subordinate male teaming up with the female and them jumping on the dominant male. There's all kinds of crazy sounds in this sound file. And I named it full rut because these coyotes were in full rut making all kinds of I mean it's howling, barking, squealing, chirping, growling, a little bit of everything mixed in. And it is every bit of it is legit. There's no no mixed or added sounds to it. And I think it's going to be the reactions that I've had from the testing it on the MFK coats have been pretty dead. So, right. Right. I think this is one people will people will like. I It It's pretty It's pretty unique stuff. I listened to it uh all the way through it yesterday and and and today it there's a lot of stuff going on in that sound file. It is pretty wild. It's pretty wild. Yeah, it's it gets their attention. There's there are a lot of trigger sounds, a lot of different triggers in that sound. So, um, I think it'll be a good one. And the and the last one is a sound called caught cotton, and it's a it's a coyote rabbit, you know, sound. Yeah. The uh um the [ __ ] the [ __ ] and coyote sounds that uh I'm I'm ready to try those because I'll use [ __ ] a little bit. I don't it's kind of one of those we don't talk we've we bring it up every once in a while but there's been several times flip on raccoon just to be playing it just to see maybe at the end of a stand to see if a you call a raccoon up after what I would call an unsuccessful coyote stand nothing show up and then all a sudden have a a coyote or a bobcat come to the raccoon sound they didn't come to nothing else but they show up to the raccoon so this coyote and [ __ ] sounds could they're going to be something pretty special. So definitely be be something to I mean I think they would great year round sounds probably. Yeah, I think they're going to do that's the thing about you know even the breeding sounds the specific breeding sounds. We tend to use them a lot during breeding but man some of those sounds work really good year round. Um they just they get cy attention and and you can use them any you know anytime. But these that we talked about are specific and and were recorded specifically from coyotes that were naturally participating in breeding. And that's that's one of the things about recording these sounds from freerange coyotes. And you know, in a wild setting, you get that you get that dynamic, that social dynamic that you just don't get any other way. If you don't record them that way, there are things missing that you just can't get any other way. So, it's sometimes it's hard to get those sounds. Takes a lot of a lot of time and a lot of effort, but uh when you do get them recorded, they're usually something special when you take them out there and and let the coach listen to it. Well, going off what you just said right there, you know, I know there's tons, you know, that goes into getting a usable sound file. um you know, especially when you're talking about recording recording these wild coyotes out there in a a natural wild setting. What are some of the biggest challenges that you face with that? Probably number one are just conditions, weather conditions. You know, sometimes there there are days when, you know, I'm around the coach listening to them and stuff and they're making a lot of a lot of sounds and they're active and they're they're making a lot of sounds that I would like to get recorded and the conditions just don't allow for it. You know, the wind's blowing or whatever. There's too many frogs or there's too many birds or there's too, you know, there's just too much background trash that I can't clean up. And when you can't get a good clean recording, and it's not to say that those sounds wouldn't work. That just goes back to what we were talking about about quality over quantity. I have some sound files that have all kinds of background noises in them that that work good that I've called in fair amount of coaches with that I would never release to the public just because they're they're just not they don't meet the the quality standards. And so we trash those files. But those weather conditions is one of the big challenges. And then of course when you're dealing with freerange coyotes, distance is [snorts] another challenge I work with sometimes where coaches are just out of range of where I'm recording. And maybe I get a recording of it, but again, I can't get that I can't get that volume maximized like I want and can't get that sound just like I want it. So, even though it's a sound I wanted to capture, it's not quality. So, just have to stay out there and try again. And there are certain sounds like I'll give you an example of one that man, I thought I wouldn't I wouldn't ever get that sound recorded uh enough to release it or a good enough version to release and that was greeting wines. I I listened to the coach make that sound and I recorded it. I have trashed so many recordings of that type sound simply because it's a subtle sound and it was so hard to get the distance and the background noise, get everything just right to get a natural good recording of that sound. And some people are probably sitting there thinking, well, why don't you just, you know, put these coyotes in a in a sound room or something? Well, I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you about the sound room deal right now. on there. People that that um use the sound room deal to promote calls and all of that. Right off the bat, soon as they started soon as I started recording animals, wildlife, cows, birds, rabbits, the whole deal, my dad and I, I got the specs of a professionalgrade sound recording room, isolation chamber, basically just like what they would record music and stuff like that in your singers. Yep. I spent the money on building a real professional-grade sound room. It's right here in the shop by the house. It's double wall, floating ceiling, all of that. The acoustic glue, I mean, everything about it is professional grade. It is when you go in there and make sound, nothing comes out. And it's I mean, it is a great sound room. Here's the problem with and why the sound room deal and promoting coats is kind of a little bit BS. Put a grown coat, even if he was raised in captivity, put a grown coat in a sound in a true sound room and see what's left of your sound room after you put them in there. Oh, I I 100% believe that you agree. And then and then if you take the advertising side of it and what I know about sound rooms and the truth on the deal is if you take a metal building and you put acoustic foam on one wall and you got a cage of coats on the other side of it or something like it's not a sound room. No, it is not a true sound room. And so you don't when you record and stuff like that, you get those you get extra sounds from the recording that are just not as good. And it's not to say, like I said, I've got some really trashy recordings that call codes. You can record sounds in that kind of setting and say it's recorded in a professional grade sound studio. That's really not true. and you get some sounds that are, at least for me, are not quality. So, I don't record sounds in that type of environment. The exception being if I've got something really small like a bird or a mouse or something that I that I can keep contained. Basically something that I'm holding in my hand. Then then you can get some really good I get some really good crystal clear recordings out of my sound room using it for that purpose or even newborn coaches or something like that. you can get some good crystal clear recordings from a sound room in that setting. But all of the other sounds with your adult coats, and if you just think about it, even in a sound room, if you go into a into any kind of room, any kind of closed structure, even if it's a sound room, and you yell out versus walking outside and yelling out, just try it in your house. You'll see what I'm talking about. or in your vehicle or anything like that and then walk outside, compare those sounds from an enclosed space to a sound that's outside and you'll hear the difference in the the quality in the way that sound carries. And so your very best recordings from animals come from that outside environment. It's just a little harder to capture those sounds sometimes, you know, for the reasons we talked about. Distance, weather conditions, stuff like that. Those are the main challenges. Well, I think about you putting one of them grown coyotes in a enclosed room. I mean, they rip they rip that foam. They dig through a wall. I've got a dag on uh I don't know how old it is now, seven or eight month old red healer pup here, and she's a sweetheart. But you can't close her up in a room. Good grief, she'd try to kill herself or eat through the walls, eat through the floors. There ain't no I can just imagine it being a a grown, you know, this is a domestic dog. I can imagine it being a coyote [laughter] what your room would look like afterwards. Yeah. And you would have to keep them in that type setting for them to function. You know, they'd have to be used to it raised up where they could come in and out and and do that. And there's no way to set the whole room up to where it would be a a a true sound room. I mean, for one, you've got to you've got to cage the coats in it and all that kind of stuff. And then the flip side to that, like with the way my sound room is set up, is if I brought a coat into it, even if it's one I've raised, it's not used to being in that room. So, it shuts the coat down, it's going to do one of two things. It's going to try to get out of there, or it's going to cower and set over in the corner, pissing itself. Those are the two things that that are going to happen. And so it's just there's a lot that goes into getting, you know, some of these some of these sounds recorded in what I believe is the highest quality, you know, and you need that you need certain environments like that outside environment to get the highest quality of, you know, especially cow vocalizations. Well, one thing I was wanting to talk about here and uh you you brought it up earlier talk about testing and stuff. Um you know, just because you get a good quality sounding recording doesn't mean it's actually going to be a killer sound file. When I say killer sound file, I'm talking about that'll actually produce hard charging coyotes and bobcats and whatever, you know, whatever the sound is. Let's talk about testing, actual testing of the sound files. Uh because that's that's something that people don't realize. Um and I can't speak for for other outfits that do do this, but if it comes from Fox Pro or comes from MFK, they've been tested. We ain't going to put nothing out unless we know it works. 100% works. And just like you was talking about others said you might record, you know, hundreds, thousands of sounds and you only keep the cream of the crop. Let's talk about that thorough sound testing a little bit. What goes into that? [snorts] Well, the the first part of it right off the bat is when I get sounds record and I listen back through the raw files, then I'm going to pick out that's the I start eliminating stuff and keeping stuff right then based on, you know, how clean the file is to begin with. I'll narrow it down a little bit right there. You know, some of those that have wind noise or background noise, they get trashed right off the bat regardless of what the sound is. Mhm. Once I get it down to some of those better sound files and those really clean ones like you were talking about, you get a a really good clean file, I'll go through those, edit them, and then you have to sort through those some kind of way. So, the first step to that is me testing them on the freerange coaches. Just yesterday, I tested some sounds that I had recorded. And I usually know where these cos are laid up at and I can do one of two things. I can stay there with my calling remote and flip to a sound and see if these coats pop out, you know, and as soon as I get a positive reaction to a certain sound, you know, this that particular sound will go into the okay, let's let's test this further. Let's let me put this on my on my buddy's call or whatever and let's see if we're killing codes with it. Some sounds that I test on the MFK codes, they don't show much reaction to it. And so I can flip through some of these sounds and watch the reaction of the MFK codes in the initial stages of testing a sound and kind of sort through. Okay, they're just not reacting. They're they're not showing a real positive reaction to this sound. doesn't mean that it wouldn't work to call in a coat, but that's how we go through eliminating the the top sounds from the mediocre sounds. Right. Right. So, those sounds get I just toss them in a folder and they basically get trashed. And there are hundreds if not thousands of files that are really clean that sound really good to my ear that for whatever reason don't seem to trigger the MFK codes. And if it doesn't trigger the MFK coaches, then I don't I don't waste time carrying it further trying to test it on other coyotes. Right. Right. and you end up with, you know, when you're going through multiple sound files, I may start out with with, you know, let's just say 25 sound files and after I test them on the MFK sound uh the MFK codes, that 25 may drop down to, you know, 17, 18, maybe 15, maybe 12. But even if it drops as low as 10 or 12, it still takes a little bit of time in the woods, in the field, whatever you want to call it, actually calling cows to test those 10 or 12 sounds, you know, on the coast that we're trying to kill to see how they work. Yeah. And then once we go through all of that, we'll end up like in this case, you know, about eight sound files that we're going to release because I know that they are good. I know that they're going to work and there's going to be I don't know there's probably another uh 20 plus sounds that I just tossed into a folder that would probably kill cows for people, but I'm never going to put them on the website, you know. I'm not I'm not going to meet the standard. Yeah. Yeah. They just if you wouldn't put them on your call, you don't you're not going to go out there and try to sell them just to get a dollar and expect somebody else put them out on their unit. If you're not going to use them, you ain't going to put them out there. Well, if those MFK cows are out there laying around and the other way that I can do it is those cos are comfortable with me watching them. So, I can sit right there with them or close to them where I can at least see them and have my wife or somebody turn the It's usually my wife. I'll have her turn a sound on. you know, she would be the same position as a hunter would be on stand. And so the call is, you know, a couple hundred yards from these coats and I'm watching their reaction. Well, if she turns on a brand new sound file that I just recorded that these coats have never heard and they don't jump up and act like they are ready to hard charge. Yeah. I mean, and you'll see that you'll see some sound files to where for whatever reason they disc just don't trigger. And if I try that one or two, three times for sure and get that not much interest in it, then that that sound file gets pushed to the side. On the flip side, if we click one on like that full rut sound that I was talking about, yep. When I click that full rut sound on testing it on MFK codes, every single coat is I mean they it gets their attention immediately and they advance, you know. So, and I don't let them go all the way in. I learn pretty quick with the test and stuff. When they show me a positive reaction, I shut the call because they will educate the sounds pretty quick. Right. Right. But that's that's that initial stage. And when those MFK coaches react that way to sound files, those sound files go on my call, they go on your call. you know, Greg Gallagher, Joey Worth, some of them that are killing a lot of coaches that are going to give me good feedback on sounds way before these ever hit the the MFK or Foxboro Pro website. Yep. You know, we're we're running these sounds on hunts like the Texas hunt last year. And then on our individual hunts, you know, y um these sounds that we're just fixing to release, you know, there's eight of them there. I think you you probably loaded what about 26 27 sounds to your 27 27 sounds you know a mix of you know got some rabbit stuff coming uh those coyote [ __ ] fire I think there's you know more than ones than you that you talked about uh you know a pretty good list of sounds good stuff coming in the future. Yeah. Yeah. And and the whole purpose of that is so those 27 sounds that are on my call and on your call and will be on a couple other people's call. These eight that we're releasing, I've already used those. I already have enough feedback on those. We know they're good stuff. They're coming out right now. The rest of those 27, some of those may never hit the website. If if you call if you call me and say, "Hey, I've run this sound several times and it just ain't doing anything, then you won't hear us talking about it on the podcast and you won't ever see it on the website, right?" Well, I think Well, going off that, I think this is a good warning for people and I'm not going to make no claims or nothing like that, but there's a good chance there's a lot of fluff out there. you know, a lot of superficial sounds. What we're trying to tell you guys is the sounds that we got available, MFK and Fox Pro are legit, proven, sound tested sounds on coyotes, and we know they'll call them in. It's just it's been a long time since Fox Pro released some new stuff. Uh, but I can remember testing those back in the day, taking it back even further. Um, this is this would be the sound batch that that produced like sound files that people will know like Mrs. Mcotttontail, Mr. Mcotttail, uh, Coyote Pup 314, Nutty Nut Pup, 10 pups, all those sounds there when that sound, you know, me and Al and I think a couple other guys had those on our units before they ever hit the website. And we tested all through all those sounds. It's like old Steve up there in Lewistown, Pennsylvania at the office has got a hard drive just absolutely full of sound files that like Tori said, you'll never see just because we record it and it sounds good. If it won't produce, we ain't putting it out there for somebody to spend money on it and it not produce coyotes for them. There's just no sense in that. That's basically stealing for people if you ask me. Well, you the easy thing to do and the way to make the most money is, you know, if I just go out there and and record a bunch of sounds and they're all clean, pretty clean files, then it's easy to edit those and just stick them on the website and then let the customer do the testing because they got to buy the sound and, you know, they may buy they may buy 15 20 sounds, may have to buy 50 sounds and odds are they're going to get one or two good sounds, but you don't know that going in and they're doing they're having to do the testing. They're doing the testing. Yeah. Yeah. And so they get, you know, if you buy 10 sounds and they've got they've spent a hundred bucks, you know, buying eight or 10 sounds and then they have to test through those eight or 10 sounds and you only get one or two good sounds. Then, you know, you kind of that's that's a lot of money for a couple sounds. Like back in the day, you know, you'd buy you'd buy CD or cassette tape from an artist or something and you know, they got that one song on a radio. Man, it's killer, man. This whole it's whole album's going to be, you know, it's going to be awesome. It can't be won't be but that one good song on the whole dag on thing. Maybe two. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] And that is I mean that is a that's an excellent comparison and I just don't I don't like doing that. I want to be you know me and you've talked about it behind the scenes before. Foxro is known for quality. MFK is known for quality. I want that if somebody mentions my name or mentions MFK that's that's what I want it to be associated with, you know. So, I'm not going to put sounds out there that people are not going to have success with, you know, and not and have my name attached to it. And and just some common sense stuff so that people don't think you're just, you know, trying to promote your own stuff. Just use some common sense on this and look through. You can take whatever library you want to and you can look through it because there are some good libraries out there. Uh but if you just take and look through libraries and look at the quantity of sounds that are in some of these libraries and then see how many of those sounds you have actually heard before the name you recognize a title like for example if it's if you go through the the hows on the MFK library I bet you heard a little be and bougie and boon I bet you've seen that mentioned from multiple people on social media and you know the fights and the majority of those sounds that are in that library, you're going to recognize them whether you've used them yourself and you know they work or you've heard somebody else mention them. And so it lets you know that those sounds they're good sounds across the board throughout the library. You can look at you can look at other libraries and there might be a pile of sounds on there that you've never heard mentioned. Might be some that catch your attention, but it goes back to what we were saying about, you know, only being two songs on a on a CD, right? This if you don't recognize a lot of the sounds in a library, you know that there's probably some a lot of sounds that are getting just pushed out there to get you to buy a bunch of sounds and you only get one or two at the end of the day that are that are really worth having and right you know and I I usually turn their you know as a warning there could be some fluff out there now I don't know if there is or not and I'm not calling nobody out but what I'm was kind of getting at just so you will see everybody will see what I'm talking about is just like MFK is releasing some new sounds and we might release some new sounds down the road Steve's got some stuff in the fold right now. But what I'm getting at is you you will have you should have total confidence in the sounds that Tori is going to put out, that FoxPro is going to put out, MFK is going to put out. Uh because they've been tested. We took them took them in the field and made sure they would call coyote. So if we're going to release them, you should have total confidence that they are coyote, fox, bobcat, calling, calling sound. So we ain't going to put them out there unless they will be. So, and another thing to follow up on that, if if people keep up with my social media, especially the MFK um page, you'll see a lot of the videos that I put out in association with these sounds that we release. And I do that I do that so people get to see that what I say about the sounds, how they're recorded, what's going on behavioral behaviorally with the coyotes, when the sounds are recorded, you get to see a lot of that. And and these sounds that we talked about these new sounds coming out. You know, I talking about those three coats and it being pretty unique where there's a dominant male jumping on a on a subordinate male and then you see that flip-flop with the with that female coat and that subordinate male double teaming the the male that's actually dominant over the other male. I've got all that stuff. I've got clips of all of that stuff so that and as these sounds once we get them, you know, just over the next few weeks, I'll I'll put some of those clips up so that people get to see that that stuff is legit and why it's uh you know, just the behavior from those coyotes and the sounds associated with it. It's pretty unique stuff and you're just not going to get it uh very easily. So, Right. Right. Well, one thing I was want to talk to you about and you was talking about quality uh earlier of the sound files. I think this is worth pointing out. Um, you know, there's more than one way to to define a quality sound file. There's some sound files that might not sound as appealing to the human ear, to your ear, but are just absolutely irresistible to a predator's ear. I I saw a guy just the other day. He said he got a got a unit and he was talk go naming off some sounds and stuff and he was asking is there anywhere else I can get more sound files? He said these things won't call nothing. Good grief. He was talking about sounds that I don't know how many dozens of coyotes I' I've killed off those sounds that you know. Yeah. So what I'm getting at is just because you particularly might not think and me me and Tori just talking about this the other day. Just because you don't think they sound good, don't mean they're killers. One of my top producing sounds ever since Tori put it out is Submissive Beggar. But when I first listened to it, I'm not knocking the quality of the sound. I mean, it's it's quality sound, but to my ear, I was like, man, I don't like the way it sounds. I don't want to play that. Yes. Well, after I saw Tori mention it so many times and watched videos of coyotes just running over top the call and all these other guys mention it, so I said, "Well, maybe it's time for stupid John to play submissive beggar and see what it's all about." Well, guess what? It has been in my favorites list on every unit I've got ever since. And I don't know, there ain't many, if any, coyote stands I make where I don't play submissive beggar. And it, you know, it's just it's just one of those and like a we've talked me and you was talking about coyote pup distress number two the other day. Old old pup distress. It sounds like it was recorded in a wine barrel or something. You know, we just got a old tiny weird ringing. I don't know what it is, but man, it's a coyote calling sound. But I remember back in the day before any of these other sound files come out, you sit out somewhere and play coyote pup distress number two and you'd have coyotes coming from three different directions. Yeah. To see who could get get there first. Yeah. And you mentioning submissive beggar. So submissive beggars. The recording of that sound is pretty clean, but it's not appealing to it wasn't appealing to my ear when I recorded. I told you before that sound and this goes back to that testing process we were talking about before that particular sound when I recorded it wasn't very appealing to my ear just I don't know I didn't think it was going to be I didn't think it would produce very good so I almost trashed your sound but almost trashed it there are so many sounds like that and sometimes it's it's the reverse where it sounds really good to you when you record it and you get it on your editor and you you get it all cleaned up and man you're Oh, this sucker right here is going to smash them. And then I take it out there and I play it for the MFK coyotes. And the one that you think is just going to make them jump up and hard charge the call, they don't show much interest in it. And then one like submissive beggar and how submissive beggar ended up making it all the way through the process is you turn it on and you see the immediate reaction, positive reaction of these coats triggering to that sound. Then then you take that sound and and having seen that it gives you, you know, it gives me the confidence to play it on stand. And so I started playing that sound on stand and just call in after call in. And it's it's a really popular sound, but it went through the testing phases and shows you that a sound that doesn't necessarily sound good to your ear will be exactly what the coyotes want. and some that that do sound really good for whatever reason or don't produce. And you see that with a lot of sounds. It can be pup distresses. You'll have some pup distresses that they all sound like, man, just pick one. It ought to call a coat. But some of them will be stand out. There's something about them that coyotes trigger to better. You'll see it with rabbit and birds, too, where you've got, [snorts] you know, rec you record five or six cottontail rabbits. You think, well, it's a cottontail rabbit in distress, a cow ought to trigger on any one of them, right? But you will have standout rabbits like KG cottontail and mess cottontail and rose bush cotton cocktail sauce. Cocktail guy called me earlier telling me about how good cotail sauce was for him, you know, just stand out rabbits. And I don't know why, but it it happens with all sound files. is is talking about the rabbit stuff. Years ago, before I [clears throat] started running electronic calls, before I even knew there was electronic calls, uh we would hand call and used to hunt with a cousin quite a bit who don't don't predator hunt anymore. It's one of those things you don't usually hear about. Usually gets people's blood to stick with them, but he kind of just faded away from it for some reason. but he was an excellent hand collar and he used I don't even know what the brand of it was but he would run this open read uh call and of course back then I didn't really know I just knew he was trying to mimic a rabbit dying um but turned out he he was sound like a jack rabbit and uh I would blow on stuff and there wouldn't be nothing coming well he'd get on that open read and get to and here comes running out I'd be like he'd be chuckling after it was Yeah, you can't call nothing. I turn, you know. Anyway, long story short, I got a Fox Pro. This was years ago. I think it was a FX3. Yeah. Well, I'd be bumping through there, listening to all these sounds and I come to a sound called Jack Rabbit Distress. This is the old school original Jack Rabbit Distress FXP sound from FoxPro. And I was like, man, that sounds horrible. But I was like, that reminds me of my cousin Bo on that open read just. So I started using that. Man, I still use that today. I don't know how many hundreds of coyotes I've killed. Old school jacket rabbit distress now. Just like you said, it's a clean recording. It's But it but it sounds bad to my ear. I don't think it sounds good. It's not appealing. You know what I mean? I thought you told me you was going to keep that jack rabbit sound secret. I slipped up. I can still cut this out. [laughter] John was telling me about that jack rabbit sound. This similar story just the other day talking about this particular sound and it was not on air. So he's telling y'all the truth about the sound and and I'll have to I guess I'll go ahead and tell on myself I use Jack Rabbit to stress a lot, but I don't show it. [laughter] Yeah, y'all got a y'all got a little bit of extra information. All these podcasts we've done and he's just now sharing it. You gotta keep every once while you got to keep a secret to yourself. But I know what it is. I know what it is. You've been some of these new sounds you get something to replace it with. Stick in your back pocket. Oh man. That's the good thing about new sounds. A lot of times when we're testing them, we can't really say nothing about them while we're testing them because they're not available yet. So you get to you get to use some stuff there for a little while that nobody else has. Yeah. Well, and it's like it's like Jack old Jack Rabbit Distress. Everybody gets in these stretches, little dry spells and stuff. Um, and there's so many sounds that I have confidence in. You know, I like running prey to stress, especially through, you know, like starting in October, really ramp it up November, December, January, you know, um, you get on these dry stretches where you ain't call nothing to pray. And uh there's been so many new recordings and even some older recordings that I've just absolutely wore out that I love. You know, the KY cottonails, Mrs. Mcottels, um Eastern MC cottontail. I can go on and on and on with the Fox Pro ones and MFK, the cottonail sauce that just come out a year or two ago. Broke cotton is a great sound. Rose bush cotton. Uh cottontail heat is a great sound. Is cottontail heat out? I don't want to mention that if you ain't got that out. Cottontail heat available. Yeah, I don't know for sure. [laughter] I don't know for sure. But what I'm getting at is I've called, you know, bunches of coyotes and cats and stuff like that to these sounds. Uh but, you know, you'll get on a little you'll get on this little dry spell every once in a while and you you kind of I'm sure everybody experiences this. You kind of get like what the heck's going on? and you start losing a little bit of confidence and there's like certain sounds that are like that you fall back on because you've had confidence in them for so long and like old that old Jack Rabbit Distress is one of them. So, if I ever get in a spell where I'm like, you know, I've been playing all these other sounds, but ain't nothing producing, I'll fall back on a Jack Rabbit Distress, you know, or whatever, because I it was one of my first sounds from Electronic Call that I had success with, and I just kept rolling with it, and I still roll with it today when uh when the opportunity arises. Yeah, that's another good thing about some of these new sounds coming out. Sometimes they give they'll give some of your other sounds in your library a break for a little while and then you can you can roll back to those in a year or two and it's almost like having new sounds again with those old sounds because your coach hadn't heard them for a while. Yeah. It it was like I remember last year I got on a little stretch, went a few times and we really wasn't calling nothing and was trying to fill a bobcat tag and all that and and the sound that I hadn't used a whole lot that I used to have so much luck with was the old adult cottontail distress from that's what it's called adult cottontail from from Foxro. So I just started falling back on it. Just kind of falling back on stuff that used to treat me good. Oh my gosh, it was, you know, went one day and called two coyotes and a cat and went another day, called another coyote. So, there's been a few times this year I'd have to hit old adult cotton tail, see if it couldn't save the day for me, you know, just cuz, you know, it's stuff that you fall back on. But, yeah, but what I'm getting at is there's some of them old sounds and some of these newer sounds that might not sound appealing to your ear. They still could be very good high quality sounds, but just because they're not appealing to your ear doesn't mean they're not going to be appealing to that coyote laid out there. So, don't pass on some of these sounds just because you don't think they sound good. I don't think that's going to be a problem with these new sounds. They are they sound pretty appealing to to my ear and the codes here. There's some pretty broke up Bratz is I mean there's several pretty unique sounds. Oh, the Bratz sounds are crazy, man. We thumped them on. That was a hot sound. Broke up Bratz and Girls Gone Wild were two hot sounds on our Texas trip last year. Finished finished some coats with uh with those sound. Then me and Dayton took them to Oklahoma and did the same thing. You know, roll through multiple sounds. I'd swap over to the Brat sounds or the or the girls sounds and uh girls gone wild. There's a couple other ones that we hadn't released yet, but uh those sounds were those sounds were really good. Worked really good. Yeah. Yeah. No, they everything I played through pretty is appealing. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] It's a there's a there's a good variety of some good stuff. And uh I think people are going think people get them on their call, they're going to have a lot of fun with them killing cos. I tell you another thing about some I don't hate call them old, but they've been out for a few years. It made me think about about quality and testing and stuff like that. made me think about some of your bird recordings back when y'all had a winter storm come through Arkansas and you actually had coyotes that had caught birds and was just like playing with them. Yeah. And you recorded sounds off of them and of course we've took a hold of them and been using them for the last few years and um the s the success is in the piles. Uh, you want to talk about them? Like broke, what was it? Broke pecker and goody pecker. Goody woody. Some of the thrasher the thrasher sounds. Several bird sounds that I was able to record from cowote caught birds during the ice storm. You know, we had a a ice storm come through and anybody just right now I noticed uh yesterday I I've seen three or four birds just laying dead on the ground. We went to church Sunday morning. And there was a dead bird laying right there on the steps, you know, just this that ice stays on the ground long enough that they get they get to where they can't hardly fly and can't hardly get around and they're on the ground hopping around and they just can't get away from these coats. And so the coyotes make easy meals of these birds. And what's something a lot of people probably don't know about coats is they will play with their food. And a lot of times they just play with stuff and then never eat it, especially if they're not hungry. I've seen them do that with multiple animals. And those birds and the way I recorded them. And like I said earlier, a lot of times I'm able to get not only the audio, but I'll have a video camera with me, too. And so I'm able to record some of this stuff so people get to see that, hey, they're not just saying that this is because there's a lot of that out there. There's a lot of BS descriptions. It ain't no I think it's be there's a lot of BS descriptions on soundwise. There just is. And so I put a lot of that video stuff out there so that people know because if if I just said it, they'd probably think that probably co didn't catch that bird. He didn't. But we put the footage out there, you know, and it's shows these coats catching these birds in that ice. I ain't talking about one bird. I'm talking about they catching them regular and they were just they were playing with them. You know, they'd pick them up. Usually they eventually killed them and they probably ate a lot of them, but a lot of them they would just catch them while they were on the ground. And those video clips show them throwing these birds up in there and catching them again and pinning them down with their paws. Of course, these birds are steady squealing. You know, these birds are doing all especially when they first get caught and they've still got enough strength to holler. And I think that I was able to record a lot of that. That's that's that's one, you know, hey, we can catch birds and rabbits. We can trap them. We can do all that stuff and they'll produce great sounds and call coyotes. But what's better? There's nothing better than recording a bird or other animal out there that was actually caught or has been actively caught by a coyote. This is it. Don't get no more realistic than that. I truly believe there's something to that because after c a lot of times when a human catches a a animal, a prey animal or whatever, it's almost like they immediately go into shock and they don't they don't react the same way. You know, if you've ever if anybody's ever trapped a coat or something like that and seen the way that they react, you know, how a wild coat reacts versus if you've got I've seen, you know, video footage of a coat that's in a trap and another coat comes along or another animal comes along and jumps on it and that those animals will make all kinds of crazy sounds and noises where when it's a human, they cower and soil and almost go into, you know, like in a state of shock, right? when animals are catching other animals, I think you get a different I think you get a different kind of distress sound or there's something to it. There's something to those type sounds and they seem to work really good. And uh it's not to say because I've recorded rabbits and you know handcaught rabbits and handcaught birds and get good sounds that work on coats, but some of the standout some of the best prey sounds I've ever recorded were from coat caught prey and and those bird sounds are probably the best example of that. They just they work really good and I don't know what the deal is with it, but those were uh some unique and that was really easy because those birds I'm not having to do any work. The cos were doing it for me. They're catching the birds and all I have to do is you know record it. But some of the other sounds have been a lot of work like rabbits for example. You kind of sometimes you sometimes they're really easy like the cocktail sauce sound. I mean, just bend over and pick the rabbit up. You were you were a witness to that. Reach down, pick him up. Nothing to it. But some of the other rabbit sounds have uh they've required a lot of work and I've been covered in cow sh was awesome hearing that. Oh man, you had to come lot of effort. A lot of effort has went into this. Yeah. I won't go into details on all the creative things. I've tried to catch rabbits, but uh we tried we tried multiple things and found some stuff that worked. Found some stuff that absolutely didn't work. And in the process of that, I have slipped down and more there was cows and rabbits. A lot of rabbits and a lot of cows and a lot of cow crap. And uh it was uh I ended up with I had to work for those for some of those rabbit sounds. And another thing you was talking about challenges for for any animal. I especially have ran into it with rabbits in particular is you go to the trouble and catch these animals and then they don't perform. They they they go into shock or whatever. They just don't holler. And probably seven I'd say 70 to 80% of the cotton tails that I've that I've caught don't produce or they don't scream for very long or or something. And and you and you're not hurting them or being mean to them or torturing there. A lot of people think there's a lot of that that goes on. There's no need to the animal. All you got to do is touch it and grab it. They're either going to cry or they It's either It's either going to And if if you're somebody that's wanting to record your own sound or something like that, if you catch an animal and it doesn't holler when you pick it up, you might as well throw it down and go on, turn it loose because you're probably not going to get any any kind of quality sounds out of it. And uh so I ran into a lot of that with the rabbits to where and I was it was aggravating too because you go to all this trouble and you finally get your hands on one and then that sucker won't holler and then you go to you go through all of it again and you get another one. And at the end of that deal, I finally caught enough rabbits, went through enough rabbits to get some good rabbit sounds like like rose bush and broke cotton and several other ones, brier, cottontail heat, you know, got several that would perform and but after through that whole process for the amount of rabbits I caught, I didn't get I'm going to say 20 to 30% I got recordings off of. And at the end of all of it, the next day I was some kind of sore. I bet. I bet. Hey, here's I got two more things I was wanting to ask you about. One here, you know, I was thinking about, you know, most most guys reason they want new sound files and sound file recordings are so intriguing to everybody because they want variety and new stuff to add. Um I I think getting proven sound file types like house from coyote social sounds all that type of stuff from a good variety of coyotes you know multiple coyotes where it's not just like the same couple three coyotes that you might get multiple recordings off of. You know, I guess what I'm getting at is you like Tori, you've got you've had Bougie, Lil B, Boone, Rue, Juice, Flipflop, and just keeps going on down DMC and all these coyotes that you've had and you've got several recordings off several different coyotes. It's not just two or three. So, you've got a huge variety. So you can get, you know, multiple house from multiple different coyotes, different fights from different coyotes coming in in contact with each other, different social sounds from all these different coyotes. That is true variety right there instead of taking just like one or two coyotes and just getting a handful of different sounds and keep repeating that. You can actually give us variety with all that. You want to touch on that a little bit? Yeah. And that's a that is a huge deal. Just like talking about how some rabbits outperform other ones, some pup sounds outperform other ones. The same thing is true with your co vocals on on your coat hows and your social sounds, all that kind of stuff. Some hows the voice of some coats just tends to produce more vocal response for whatever reason, more call in for whatever reason. It just triggers other coats [snorts] for some reason. And that's why some of the coyotes that I've recorded have been such standouts like Boone and Bougie, Little Be Juice, you know, some of those some of the newer ones that are that are getting some attention like Fireball and Dempsey Burrhead. Burrheads really get some uh some good attention. I've got a batch right now that I've just started recording real heavy that are going to be new voices. Uh Patches, Pickles, uh Brat, you know, we we're just going to release a few of the Brat. She was involved in some of that. But Brad is a is a new female that people hadn't heard yet with a new voice. And the big deal with all of that is those new voices are all different triggers. And some of them, like we just said, trigger better than others. So you was talking about some of the fluff stuff. It would be really easy to take one or two coats and record howl after howl after howl over off of these coats. it would be the same voice and they have a similar howl pattern. So that's why you usually only see from MFK. You'll see maybe four or five different house from a particular coat like Boone and then you don't see any other Boone house. And it's because there's no point in me keeping on recording Boone over and over and over again and getting real similar how from the same voice coat and keep selling it over and over and over again. Even though I could do it or I could take Boone and keep recording him and change his name and unbeknownst to the customer, they've got Boone and then I could call him Billy and sell some Billy house. That's right. Well, Billy is still just Boone and it's Boone's voice and it's Boone's howl pattern and you know that stuff is is dishonest and just I just put it out there like that and I don't do it. So, anytime you see, you know, coats with a particular name and and and that's why I name all of them, so people know that they're getting a particular coat and a particular co voice. And you can distinguish when you're buying sound from MFK. You know, you know that that you're getting a different howl, a different voice, and a different howl pattern and all that kind of stuff. And uh that's that's a big deal. and keeping that in rotation and bringing in new coats, new individual coats that have a completely different voice and a different howl pattern keeps you in new sounds and new howls that that just trigger coats differently rather than, you know, taking the same few coats, one same one or two coats and recording them over and over and over and over again and just putting a different title or name, you know, on that sound file. So having those having that variety with different coats and different voices and a lot of the coats you'll see you'll see some coats to where you may see sounds from MFK to where you see a particular coat name in a fight or with some pup stuff but you don't see very many hows from that coat. Jiggy comes to mind. don't see very much stuff with Jiggy and that's because she was she just wasn't any good as far as producing lone hows and stuff like that. So I just didn't record her. I recorded her and it's not that she didn't howl. She just didn't produce good howls that were appealing to other cows because when I test them, you know, she just she just wasn't a good hower. And so you'll see some of that to where there may be some names of coyotes that you don't see very many if any house from and it's just because they're not good performers and I need a you know I keep them in rotation and get a nuke out with a new voice to get better hows and uh you know that that works out good for the customers putting them on their calls and you can you can buy with confidence knowing If you didn't if you see a different name. True. True. You got a different voice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you speaking of names, you you mentioned Boone. Is Is Boone still around? I think Boon Boon disappeared. Uh I think Boon I think that original batch of coyotes is gone. I hate to say all of them are gone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's uh he's And you know the I made a post the other day. Somebody had asked about it. So, in general, I get about two years worth out of a coat. And and they're they're not my pet. Some people find that just unbelievable that I don't get attached to them. And it's not that I don't like some of them and they I like to hunt coats. I like to kill coats. I got into raising coats and recording coats to to kill more cos. That's right. To learn about them, to record them. And I can't I can't tell you how many times people have said, "Do does it affect you now that you've raised these goats?" And I've asked you that before. Yeah, I've asked you that. And and the answer to it, you know, so a lot of times I say no, but the the real answer is yes, I get. And it's not for the reason they think it doesn't affect me in a do I have trouble pulling the trigger on the code? Absolutely not. But yes, it does change the way I feel about it because when you sit out here, when you spend the amount of time that I've spent raising these coats and and watching them and learning from them and watching their behavior and you come up with these theories on different setups and you record sounds from them and then you take all of that stuff out there, you got it on your Fox Pro and you set it down out there and you you take all this stuff that you've learned from these coats and the sounds that you've recorded from them and you hit play and one comes running in and you smash that thing upside his head, it's even better. It's even better. You know, there's no there's no I don't have any trouble with it. You know, I've I enjoy it even more. And the whole what I was about to say is that rotation in general, I get about two years out of most cos. Yeah. Before something happens to them. They either disappear or whatever. And that's part of the freerange go. I just had one. People have heard about I'll tell this story. People probably saw the post and have heard us talk about the the we had we called it the eyes open project. There was a cow called Fancy. I've got some sounds from her that released yet. They're just kind of sitting in the archives, but uh recorded some sounds from Fancy and she had a black pup named Torbaby. Well, see, I was going I was actually going to ask you, whatever happened to that koi dog? Yeah. So, so [laughter] yeah, Fancy and Tar Baby are both dead. Are they really? Oh, yeah. Killed K. I just found out about Fancy the other day. I knew that she was hanging out in a dangerous spot, but that's that's part of the freerange coat deal. She got killed about a half mile from here and uh in somebody's yard and they had been watching her for a while had sent me pictures of her and all this kind of stuff and now I don't know that they knew the whole backstory behind it and all that kind of stuff but eventually got scared that she was going to kill a dog or something like that and so uh they popped her but uh and I'm I'm not upset about it. That's just part of the deal. Yes. And you know, some of the cos are going to get killed if they if they get off our property and we got a good bit of ground they can range on and all that kind of stuff and horse food sources and all that. But having that rotation whether they get killed, whether they leave, whatever, that keeps that rotation so that we get new voices. Fresh. Fresh. Yeah. What about Tar baby? What happened? What happened to him? Same thing. Same same thing. The same I'm I'm not I know for sure on Fancy, but I'm pretty sure on Tar Baby too because u the same the same guy was getting pictures of Fancy and Tar Baby on a deer camera. Uhhuh. And I know that Fancy was killed because I know the boy that killed her and the guy that had the pictures of the uh of Tar Baby I heard killed a black coat and right there by his deer feeder. So I'm pretty sure that uh pretty sure that that black coat was Tar Baby because haven't been seen since. I would any recordings off of Tar Baby? Just a just a few. I mean, I do have a Yeah, I got a few hs and a little bit of pup stuff. Um, and all of that record so many coats and get so many sounds. I mean, that testing process that we were talking about going through, it takes a while before some of, you know, ever ever resurface. But yeah, there'll be some fancy Antar baby stuff come out and uh at some point, but I got uh I got one more thing to ask you. Yeah. New release sounds right here for breeding season. Tell me what are your as of right now, what's your three favorites out of that batch?
I'm probably gonna go with uh with Love Song. I figured you had to say that because we've been talking about it. You talked about all the great reactions you've had with it so far. I knew it had to be Well, that's that's why that's why I mentioned it. Just a couple of the stands that I was just on. I'd already played through multiple sounds. I turned on love song and ke right behind it, you know. So, it's been really good. I like it. Um, and like I said, cos answer it well and come into it good. Uh,
probably you want me to stick with the stick with the uh the specific breeding sounds or you talking about including the [ __ ] stuff too or what? Well, you can you can mention whichever ones you you want. [laughter] Probably probably love song, broke up Bratz, Koi, Pup, Cocoon Fight. Man, it it's a tough one cuz now I'm see I remember Full Ruts in there too. Got a lot of Full Rut is crazy. It's just uh Yeah, I probably have to throw it in. I don't know, man. You got me on that one cuz hot and spicy is good. I mean, these these were handpicked cream of the crop. Good stuff. So, it's hard. It's really hard to pick them. Let me ask you about one sound because I'm probably going to test it tomorrow if I don't get rained out. And this sound uh might not be in this release. I don't know because we actually recorded this. Well, that's a good one, too. I'm going to test it, too, but that's not the one I was going to bring up. But, okay. Now, now we're now guys listening, we're talking about this stuff. We're recording this before they actually hit hit the market. Okay. So, I might be bringing one up that's not getting released yet, but this is definitely Girl Screaming is one of them. It's wild sounding, but other one is Little Be Camir Wimpers. Yeah. [snorts] Yeah. That sound right there, that was another one. And of course, Little Be is so popular. So, greeting. People have heard me talk about the greeting wines type sound. Little bee come here whimpers is a similar sound. Greeting Wines was recorded from Bougie. Another popular female coat. Little bee come here whimpers was recorded of course from Little Be. And there people have heard us talk about it's a social sound. People have heard us talk about it before and I've always coyotes do it year round. Males and females do it. Females do it a little more than males usually, but they both do it. I've put out videos showing them doing it during breeding season and during pup rearing and those are the two peak times that they do it. Greeting lines was recorded from bougie during pup rearing time frame. Little bee comeers was recorded during breeding season. And I I put the clip out. People should have saw this last year. I'm sure you remembered. I put a a couple video clips showing little be and hoodlum paired up and them communicating back and forth. Both of them were doing the whimpers. Hers are higher pitched and she did a little more of it than he did. That's that series right there where they were paired up last year and they're when one of them would move away from the other one or they they were constantly communicating with that sound. And I recorded that's where little be come here whimpers come from was her communicating with that male named hoodlm that she was paired with. It's a killer. Joey man sounds great. It's a killer any time of the year. Talking about the testing of that sound. If anybody watches Close Encounter stuff on YouTube, Joey Worth, you just just had him. I think you just released a podcast with him uh y a week or so ago. But uh Joey come down hunted with me. I was running that particular sound. Of course, this was summer calling and I recorded the sound the previous breeding season. I was running little bee come here whimpers a lot on that hunt and cy were running over us. Anybody that has watched those videos saw that has has already seen little becomers in action. And when Joey left, we ran through I played a bunch of new stuff. We tested a bunch of stuff. When Joey left, he said, "I want one sound in particular." He said, "I want them all." He said, "But if you can only put one on my call before I leave, I got to have little be come here whimpers." So, just to give you an idea of how good that sound works. Yeah. Yeah. No, it uh I wanted to ask you about it because I know it there's there's some good ones in this batch, guys. Y'all check them out. You'll be able to find them at mfkgamecalls.com and go foxpro.com. Only two places you can get them. Only unit you can run that stuff on is a FoxPro. So they're definitely definitely worth checking out for sure. Well, Tori, we've been on here for quite a while. We usually we usually have plenty to talk about. We don't we don't have no trouble using up our hour. No, no, no. And this this is a good podcast and I I hope uh you know it's a good episode. I hope this guy I hope this answers some questions for several guys that's always asking like when we getting a new sound file release when why aren't y'all putting out more sounds? You know this is the reason there's it's tough getting these sound recordings. Tori works his high end off getting them and then there's a thorough thorough testing process that goes that goes into place before he's going to put them out there for sale. So Tori, I appreciate everything you do. I mean keeping us all into calling more coyotes. I appreciate you uh thumping a lot of coyotes with them and showing people that they that they work as well as they do. And that's the main thing. Uh we want people to know that when they buy, they can buy with confidence and they're going to get good stuff. Yep. Yep. 100%. Got a got a good batch out right now. Some more good stuff coming in the future. Tori, you got anything you'd like to leave us with? Appreciate everybody that listens to the podcast and uses our sounds. Hope y'all kill a pile of coats. And uh that's about it, I reckon. We hope everyone enjoyed this episode. We hope you join us again right here on the FoxPro Podcast