Jon Collins and Torry Cook discuss the sounds and sound sequences that you need to be running for coyotes through October.
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welcome to the Foxpro podcast
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brought to you by Foxpro game calls
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hello everyone welcome back to the
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Foxpro podcast we are once again joined
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by Tory cook of mfk game calls what
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about a toy doing all right bud
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pretty good been busy I can't complain
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yeah I see y'all been fishing a little
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bit here lately
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well we were slaughtering them fish most
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of the summer and now both season right
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around the corner that's winding down
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and poles will be collecting dust till
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uh next spring I hear you I hear you I
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like to fish yeah but I'm 100 first I'm
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a Woodsman then a hunter and then
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fisherman takes up my slack time I got
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you I got you and throw some work in
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there in between yeah yeah that's the
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half two stuff there but I like it too
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blessed in that area
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you too did uh
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what would you tell me are supposed to
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be 99 degrees down there today
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yeah that's what they said this morning
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and it sure feels like it I think we
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told the listeners last time you and I
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both have a signal issues so I'm sitting
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on my heel and uh
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I'm talking to you out here in the
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sunshine with no shirt on I'm getting me
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a little sun-kissed because it's so hot
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hey well you look a lot better your
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shirt off when I do mine at least you're
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in shape yeah I'm just glad the breeze
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is blowing last time I talked to you I
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could sit in the truck with it with it
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uh killed and wasn't too bad but today
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is warm I got you I'd say with that uh
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Sun beating through a wind she'll be
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pretty rough but uh you know last time
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we had Tori on the podcast we discussed
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all the different coyote vocal
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categories of the mfk sound library and
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if you didn't catch it podcast you guys
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need to go back and listen to that all
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kinds of excellent info winner that you
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guys do not need to miss out on I mean
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it's just a great podcast go back and
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listen to it if you if you didn't catch
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it this episode's topic is going to be a
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lot more specific uh you know we've made
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it to fall just like Tori said and uh
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that's what we're going to be talking
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about talking about what to what the
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coyotes are doing right now and the
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sounds and sequences that you guys need
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to be running right now to be killing
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these coyotes uh Tori
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you know the coyotes are in a transition
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period right now and you get this you
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get to witness that firsthand with you
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raising these coyotes and stuff you want
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to tell us what's going on in a coyote's
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life right now
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well when you hit me up about doing this
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podcast for this time and I thought it
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was perfect because they are in such a
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change in transition time and what's
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taking place is all summer long we've
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had these family groups of ghosts that
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are real tight-knit well-bonded
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everything's right here together the
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adults and the pups are pretty close
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proximity and that's changing right now
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a couple of things are going on those
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those young pups shed their baby teeth
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and when they shed those baby teeth and
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put those big canines in the serious
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teeth that just that's a signal that
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everything's about to change and family
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bust up is in the early stages and so
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that's what's going on right now with
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the coats I'm watching that with them FK
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cows they're starting to spread out any
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of you that are hunting and listening to
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coyotes vocalize you're probably hearing
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some of that witnessing some of the cows
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to where you hear multiple goats but
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instead of them being right there on top
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of each other they've got some distance
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between them and there are some ways
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that we can really take advantage of
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that with the sounds we choose and the
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setup and kill multiple coats when you
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kill one on the stand a lot of times at
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other times of the year it's over with
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but right now it's a really good time to
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get those multiples and kill cerebral
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coats I know just from looking at your
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post John and then of course Greg
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Gallery serving people on Facebook
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anybody's been looking you're seeing
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those multiple kill
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I mean just a pile of people that are
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killing multiple goats and they're
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taking advantage of that family bust up
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time frame and it's kind of a
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short-lived deal too to where we've got
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the rest of this month and I would say
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pretty much the month of October and
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then that'll you know it'll start
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changing again right right yeah we're
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here we're here at the tail end of
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September uh of course this podcast when
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it's when it's out this is going to be
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like the first or second week of October
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but this is still you know the
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information we're giving you guys is
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still going to be hot and heavy and be
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uh uh and you know it'll play right in
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with the time of the year
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um and just like Tori said right now it
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is the time to be calling to catch those
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family groups because you know before
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not all coyotes were coming to the cause
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um right now every single coyote that's
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bit that's out there that's alive will
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get up and come to a assortment of
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different sounds is that correct Tori
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yeah yeah and I think there are some you
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know some specific sounds that you can
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kind of Base your sequence around one of
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those being those long pup piles those
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older age class pup fights and that the
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reason being is because of what we
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talked about just a minute ago those
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mainly your your pup groups they have a
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pecking order and they've been together
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all summer well now that is busting up
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and so those pups are no longer
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tolerating each other as well as they
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did so they're fighting a lot they're
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pushing each other away and I call it
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bust up instead of pup dispersal and I
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think that's something else good to
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touch on is I think some people get
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confused with
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family bust up and pump dispersal when
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pups actually disperse they're they're
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covering a lot of ground they're moving
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out right when family bust up takes
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place
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those cows are not leaving the area
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they're still in the same the adults and
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the pups are still in the same area they
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just have a little distance between them
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but it's not anything extreme you can
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still reach the ears of all those goats
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with your colon and because they are
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splitting up like that they still have a
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tendency to want to remain part of that
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family group so those long Clubhouse
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those pup fights those are the things
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that are taking place and a lot of the
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sounds that they're they're doing right
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now last night I stayed out two or three
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hours last night recording busted up
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hooks that were howling and they had two
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or three hundred yards between them
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right and it would get close to one and
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and get a recording or two off of them
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move to another one and if they get in
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close proximity of each other you
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usually have those pup fights take place
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right and so those are those are really
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good sounds to kind of you know make
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sure they're part of the sequence and
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then of course and I was a little slow
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on that post that I put up talking about
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family bust up and one thing it went
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ahead and triggered me I saw where you
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made the post that said first cow come
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to Rabbit you know of this of the season
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and that's the other type sound that
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people need to start
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you know making sure they're they're
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putting some of those prey sounds in
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their sequence along with those long pup
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piles and the pup fights just like that
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post a couple of those posts you made
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where you've got those I mentioned those
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pups are getting those new teeth they
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want to use it I mean they're growing
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those teeth for a reason it's they're
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busting up they're starting to fend for
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themselves they are
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functioning is individual independent
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codes right so and so that's where those
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prey distress sounds you know really
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come in because they're not good at it
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yet you know a lot of people think as
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soon as cows are born and they get out
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of the den they start running around
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killing everything right and that's not
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the case they're basically scavengers up
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until they get those teeth and the
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adults are supplying most of the food
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and they what what food they're catching
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is Grasshoppers and right berries you
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know stuff that's hard that's easy then
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berries don't run very fast so they're
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pretty good right yeah yeah grasshoppers
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liable to jump right on them so that's
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right that's right and give you guys
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some you know Tori was talking about
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post that he was saying like on Facebook
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and stuff guys
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information on what we're seeing
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throughout the year because we've said
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this once before and it's worth saying
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again we want you guys to be successful
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so make sure you're following us because
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we're going to give you all the
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information we can to help you be
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successful out there in the field along
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with this podcast and uh you know just
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like Tori said
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he heard he saw that I was talking about
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a little bit of prey distress we've been
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extremely vocal heavy all Spring and
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Summer Long the coyotes that I hunt
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have not heard the first prey distress
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sound for me all summer except for just
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a little bit of fond of stress and the
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only time I run fond of stress is there
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are no summer months but just here a
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couple weeks ago decided to start mixing
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in a little bit of rabbit we played a
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little bit of cagey Cottontail played a
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little baby Cottontail when we started
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seeing coyotes respond to that in a in a
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pretty Dynamite way had some really
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positive call-ins with that and it's
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just something to mix into these
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sequences
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um
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Thor do you want to talk about
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um say a full sound sequence that's
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that's Dynamite for this type of year
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you know I can tell what I've been
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running uh you you can talk about like
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uh what you would be like if you were
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going this weekend what would you be
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playing
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well I would start changing from that
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summer sequence that I've ran up to this
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point but if I were going this weekend
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like I said I would be heavy with those
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long pup owls and the pup fights I'd
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stay with some of that social
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interaction stuff so just to give an
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example of say some specific sounds in a
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sequence I would I would open my stand
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with long pup House of some kind like
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bam long pup bougie whiny pup house uh
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little bee house some of those older age
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class long pups and I would probably use
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one or two different coats
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for example start with bam run a series
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wait a minute or two and answer with one
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of those other pups and because that's
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what they're doing right now they get
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separated and they will they will howl
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and from there I would probably go right
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into one of those social interaction
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sounds like submissive Burger y'all have
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heard me talk about it before it's just
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a killer sound but any of those social
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interaction sounds are good to follow
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those profiles and I wouldn't be scared
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to come right back around with uh
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another series of Pub piles
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and even makes a long adult aisle in
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there too because you still have those
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adults that are functioning as
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satellites right in that area and then
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go right too and at any point in there
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I'm I'm more sporadic with my sequences
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at that time of the year this time of
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the year because I'm apt to mix a couple
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two or three minutes of some type of
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prey distress in right now because I
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know that those long pups are starting
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to catch of course your adults are
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always at the trigger on it right so
0:11:32.060,0:11:36.959
mixing a couple of minutes of some of
0:11:35.279,0:11:40.440
the prey distress sounds whether that be
0:11:36.959,0:11:42.420
rabbit bird rodents I like those type
0:11:40.440,0:11:45.240
sounds
0:11:42.420,0:11:47.760
um I I actually favor the birds and
0:11:45.240,0:11:50.399
rodents over rabbit a lot of times but
0:11:47.760,0:11:52.920
uh but I will mix rabbit in right and
0:11:50.399,0:11:55.019
then I mix those uh those pup fights in
0:11:52.920,0:11:59.880
you know I'm gonna go to something like
0:11:55.019,0:12:03.360
some of those older age class pups uh
0:11:59.880,0:12:04.920
you know the table scraps is killer all
0:12:03.360,0:12:07.860
the time but it's a good one that's an
0:12:04.920,0:12:09.300
older age class food fight and but just
0:12:07.860,0:12:10.500
any of those pup fights and I'll
0:12:09.300,0:12:12.779
probably play two or three different
0:12:10.500,0:12:14.839
ones for two or three minutes and then
0:12:12.779,0:12:17.100
swap to another one right
0:12:14.839,0:12:18.899
and then of course I'm gonna end the
0:12:17.100,0:12:20.579
stand just like I would any other time
0:12:18.899,0:12:22.019
of the year I'm going to end it with
0:12:20.579,0:12:25.260
something like pound town right I mean
0:12:22.019,0:12:27.720
that just that's year year around I'm
0:12:25.260,0:12:29.880
gonna do something like that right but
0:12:27.720,0:12:31.740
um watch I tell you what I sure saw I
0:12:29.880,0:12:33.360
mean it was almost like a you flipped a
0:12:31.740,0:12:35.820
light switch uh you know we were in
0:12:33.360,0:12:38.760
Kansas a couple weeks ago
0:12:35.820,0:12:40.200
um the first hand we made we made we did
0:12:38.760,0:12:42.480
pup house
0:12:40.200,0:12:44.820
played a little bit of I think we played
0:12:42.480,0:12:47.459
uh submissive wines I think mfk sound
0:12:44.820,0:12:48.600
and I I was hunting with Jeff Ryder a
0:12:47.459,0:12:49.860
good friend of mine I looked over at
0:12:48.600,0:12:51.959
Jeff I said you reckon it's time to play
0:12:49.860,0:12:54.540
some rabbit he said pour it on it we hit
0:12:51.959,0:12:56.100
cagey Cottontail and within a minute we
0:12:54.540,0:12:58.740
had a hard charge and double ended up
0:12:56.100,0:13:00.420
killing both of those coyotes but uh the
0:12:58.740,0:13:02.339
rest of the trip we were noticing that
0:13:00.420,0:13:04.800
we were killing a bunch of singles we
0:13:02.339,0:13:07.200
killed singles for the next two days and
0:13:04.800,0:13:10.320
every coyote we killed was these great
0:13:07.200,0:13:12.180
big old old coyotes I'm talking about
0:13:10.320,0:13:14.100
hardly a tooth in her head if they had
0:13:12.180,0:13:15.660
teeth in her head you can see the roots
0:13:14.100,0:13:17.579
of their teeth I mean they were just old
0:13:15.660,0:13:18.959
coyotes and then when I come back home
0:13:17.579,0:13:21.060
to Kentucky
0:13:18.959,0:13:23.339
like I said it's just like that light
0:13:21.060,0:13:26.639
switch flipped we started killing more
0:13:23.339,0:13:28.380
doubles triples and we were seeing those
0:13:26.639,0:13:30.600
yearling coyotes
0:13:28.380,0:13:32.160
start responding really well
0:13:30.600,0:13:33.180
um and I'll just tell you right off the
0:13:32.160,0:13:35.639
I'll just go ahead and tell you guys
0:13:33.180,0:13:38.220
what my sequences has been for the last
0:13:35.639,0:13:40.620
couple weeks I think we've filmed this
0:13:38.220,0:13:43.680
month as of this morning I think we
0:13:40.620,0:13:45.060
filmed myself 16 coyotes being killed on
0:13:43.680,0:13:46.620
film so that's your day that they're
0:13:45.060,0:13:48.600
coming pretty good and I've been
0:13:46.620,0:13:51.959
starting out just with what Tori just
0:13:48.600,0:13:54.120
said I've been running either bam or Lil
0:13:51.959,0:13:56.339
B pup house that's what I start to sound
0:13:54.120,0:13:58.200
the standoff with I actually let that
0:13:56.339,0:14:00.720
them run out through their sequence
0:13:58.200,0:14:04.740
twice I'll let it run out
0:14:00.720,0:14:07.019
pause for maybe 20 or 30 seconds and
0:14:04.740,0:14:08.519
then I'll unmute the call and let it
0:14:07.019,0:14:10.680
Loop one more time
0:14:08.519,0:14:12.779
all them toss
0:14:10.680,0:14:14.339
and run a baby I'm running baby
0:14:12.779,0:14:15.959
Cottontail I just want that one little
0:14:14.339,0:14:18.420
bo squeaky cotton down I'm only running
0:14:15.959,0:14:20.339
for like two minutes and then I'm that's
0:14:18.420,0:14:23.459
when I'm going to transition over into
0:14:20.339,0:14:25.320
the uh the submissive beggar and sounds
0:14:23.459,0:14:26.639
like that Tori I'm just kind of like
0:14:25.320,0:14:28.459
trying to paint that picture like
0:14:26.639,0:14:31.920
there's a there's a yearling out there
0:14:28.459,0:14:33.720
fooling around it catches a rabbit and
0:14:31.920,0:14:35.760
then moment's buddies comes in one of
0:14:33.720,0:14:37.079
its litter mates and they start to scrap
0:14:35.760,0:14:38.639
around a little bit
0:14:37.079,0:14:39.899
and then after that that's when I'm
0:14:38.639,0:14:42.360
going into the fight so I'm just
0:14:39.899,0:14:44.699
painting that picture of what could be
0:14:42.360,0:14:46.079
going on this falling man I've I've just
0:14:44.699,0:14:49.079
some awesome colonies like I said
0:14:46.079,0:14:50.399
doubles triples and a lot of times these
0:14:49.079,0:14:51.959
coyotes are actually coming from two
0:14:50.399,0:14:53.579
different directions I'm not calling
0:14:51.959,0:14:55.560
them in together they're coming from all
0:14:53.579,0:14:58.260
over the place and it's just been some
0:14:55.560,0:15:01.680
some excellent calling here of late
0:14:58.260,0:15:03.360
and that that is a perfect example of
0:15:01.680,0:15:04.800
what we kind of touched on earlier and I
0:15:03.360,0:15:07.100
don't even know if we emphasized it
0:15:04.800,0:15:09.959
enough but that's a perfect example of
0:15:07.100,0:15:12.480
this time of the year and being able to
0:15:09.959,0:15:13.680
kill multiple coyotes on stand and like
0:15:12.480,0:15:15.600
you said they're coming from different
0:15:13.680,0:15:18.839
directions showing up at different times
0:15:15.600,0:15:20.940
so that's no accident it's because
0:15:18.839,0:15:22.680
family bust up is taking place and you
0:15:20.940,0:15:23.880
have multiple codes you know somebody
0:15:22.680,0:15:26.880
hadn't been in there and killed them and
0:15:23.880,0:15:29.279
they raised a decent decent litter then
0:15:26.880,0:15:31.380
there's potential for there to be as
0:15:29.279,0:15:34.500
many as you know four or five or more
0:15:31.380,0:15:36.899
coats in the area that you're calling
0:15:34.500,0:15:39.240
counting the adults and the pups so when
0:15:36.899,0:15:42.000
those pups are up big enough to come to
0:15:39.240,0:15:44.399
the call and on any sound now
0:15:42.000,0:15:45.540
and so that's something that
0:15:44.399,0:15:47.399
like I said I don't know if we
0:15:45.540,0:15:49.440
emphasized it enough while ago but when
0:15:47.399,0:15:50.760
people are set up and they call in that
0:15:49.440,0:15:53.459
first coat
0:15:50.760,0:15:56.279
don't get up and leave you need to keep
0:15:53.459,0:15:58.920
calling you need to run through those
0:15:56.279,0:16:01.019
other sounds and a lot of times
0:15:58.920,0:16:02.720
especially if you know that you're set
0:16:01.019,0:16:04.860
up in an area that has multiple codes
0:16:02.720,0:16:06.779
there's a really good chance that you're
0:16:04.860,0:16:10.260
going to call other coyotes the internet
0:16:06.779,0:16:13.380
you know very high odds because they are
0:16:10.260,0:16:14.820
busted up and located in different spots
0:16:13.380,0:16:16.920
you know you may have a coat within 100
0:16:14.820,0:16:18.720
yards of you and you kill that coyote as
0:16:16.920,0:16:20.100
soon as you set out right you may have
0:16:18.720,0:16:21.540
another one that's three or four hundred
0:16:20.100,0:16:23.880
yards out that takes a couple more
0:16:21.540,0:16:25.500
minutes to get to the call right but and
0:16:23.880,0:16:27.600
and that's really good because it does
0:16:25.500,0:16:29.639
allow you to to get into those doubles
0:16:27.600,0:16:32.100
triple squads stuff like that and gonna
0:16:29.639,0:16:34.800
be individual kills where you're
0:16:32.100,0:16:36.240
actually calling up single coats and
0:16:34.800,0:16:37.740
killing them one at a time but they're
0:16:36.240,0:16:39.060
all on the same stuff right and you're
0:16:37.740,0:16:41.399
you're a lot you're a lot you know
0:16:39.060,0:16:43.139
you're after kill those multiples when
0:16:41.399,0:16:45.480
you when it plays out like that and if
0:16:43.139,0:16:46.920
they all run in at one time but uh you
0:16:45.480,0:16:48.060
know that's and that's one thing one
0:16:46.920,0:16:50.399
thing worth mentioning I think we're
0:16:48.060,0:16:52.139
talking about the sequences I'm having
0:16:50.399,0:16:55.199
coyote show up
0:16:52.139,0:16:57.420
from start to finish you know I've had
0:16:55.199,0:17:00.300
coyote show up to just the pup house
0:16:57.420,0:17:02.519
I've had coyote show up to the rabbit
0:17:00.300,0:17:05.339
after we start playing a rabbit I've had
0:17:02.519,0:17:07.439
coyote show up uh to the to the
0:17:05.339,0:17:09.360
submissive sounds you know after we went
0:17:07.439,0:17:11.819
through the house through the rabbit
0:17:09.360,0:17:13.740
we'll start playing some music then they
0:17:11.819,0:17:15.059
charge in I don't know if those coyotes
0:17:13.740,0:17:17.520
are just taking that long to get there
0:17:15.059,0:17:19.500
or if that's just what finally triggered
0:17:17.520,0:17:20.880
them to come on in then of course just
0:17:19.500,0:17:22.860
like Tori was talking about we finished
0:17:20.880,0:17:24.720
with a couple fights
0:17:22.860,0:17:26.220
um and like I said killing them from the
0:17:24.720,0:17:28.199
start of the stand
0:17:26.220,0:17:30.179
towards the end of this hand and one
0:17:28.199,0:17:31.140
cool thing is like like Tori is talking
0:17:30.179,0:17:34.380
about
0:17:31.140,0:17:36.240
one coyote might get there early keep
0:17:34.380,0:17:39.360
calling in another one or two coyotes
0:17:36.240,0:17:40.679
come in later on but one thing like this
0:17:39.360,0:17:42.840
morning I thought it was the craziest
0:17:40.679,0:17:44.340
thing we actually killed a double and
0:17:42.840,0:17:48.539
had coyotes come from two different
0:17:44.340,0:17:50.340
directions but they emerged one emerged
0:17:48.539,0:17:51.600
out of one ticket to the left the other
0:17:50.340,0:17:53.880
one emerged to have a Thicket to the
0:17:51.600,0:17:55.559
right at almost simultaneously I'm
0:17:53.880,0:17:57.660
talking about within seconds each other
0:17:55.559,0:17:58.799
and showed up to the call within seconds
0:17:57.660,0:18:01.020
each other it was the craziest thing
0:17:58.799,0:18:02.400
I've ever seen it's like whatever we
0:18:01.020,0:18:05.039
played in that sequence it made them
0:18:02.400,0:18:07.440
trigger that's that's just how they
0:18:05.039,0:18:09.000
showed up and that's what made them drew
0:18:07.440,0:18:09.900
them to the call
0:18:09.000,0:18:12.840
yeah
0:18:09.900,0:18:14.760
and you were talking about uh this will
0:18:12.840,0:18:16.140
relate some to everything we've been
0:18:14.760,0:18:18.000
talking about you asked me right off the
0:18:16.140,0:18:20.880
bat what the coyotes are doing right now
0:18:18.000,0:18:24.660
so I'll just give you an exact example
0:18:20.880,0:18:26.900
of the six pups that I raised this
0:18:24.660,0:18:30.840
summer and that's going to be Fireball
0:18:26.900,0:18:33.059
uh big girl hoodlum little Haven Dempsey
0:18:30.840,0:18:36.120
and flip-flop those are the six coats
0:18:33.059,0:18:37.500
well they've been a tight group the
0:18:36.120,0:18:39.539
whole time with the exceptional
0:18:37.500,0:18:41.340
flip-flop which was a crippled coat they
0:18:39.539,0:18:43.140
kicked her out right off the bat but she
0:18:41.340,0:18:45.240
just stayed in the proximity of the
0:18:43.140,0:18:47.580
other ones you know she stays within
0:18:45.240,0:18:49.620
three 400 yards of the rest of the group
0:18:47.580,0:18:51.960
now they jump all over and just whoop
0:18:49.620,0:18:54.480
her beat her down right if she gets
0:18:51.960,0:18:56.160
close to them and she avoids them but
0:18:54.480,0:18:58.080
the rest of the group the other five
0:18:56.160,0:19:00.120
have stayed together all the way up
0:18:58.080,0:19:01.860
until they shed their teeth grew those
0:19:00.120,0:19:04.620
other ones in a couple weeks ago this
0:19:01.860,0:19:06.900
started and they started fighting pretty
0:19:04.620,0:19:10.200
heavy well since then what was odd is
0:19:06.900,0:19:11.220
Dempsey was the he was the top pecking
0:19:10.200,0:19:12.660
order pup
0:19:11.220,0:19:14.880
well the other ones kind of jumped on
0:19:12.660,0:19:17.520
him and ganged up on him and pushed him
0:19:14.880,0:19:18.900
out so he's now separated he's staying
0:19:17.520,0:19:21.299
by himself
0:19:18.900,0:19:22.620
um he's still in all of these cows are
0:19:21.299,0:19:24.840
still within a quarter mile of each
0:19:22.620,0:19:26.600
other but it's broken down to where our
0:19:24.840,0:19:28.799
flip-flop is an individual coat
0:19:26.600,0:19:32.400
Dempsey's an individual
0:19:28.799,0:19:36.960
uh they just pushed a little Heathen out
0:19:32.400,0:19:39.179
and then uh Fireball hoodlum and big
0:19:36.960,0:19:42.419
girl are still a group of three really
0:19:39.179,0:19:45.299
so that's kind of a breakdown on how
0:19:42.419,0:19:47.640
family the family group takes place and
0:19:45.299,0:19:49.919
I can already tell that hoodlum's going
0:19:47.640,0:19:51.840
to be the next to go I mean they're you
0:19:49.919,0:19:53.280
just see those three coyotes yeah he's
0:19:51.840,0:19:55.980
he's already
0:19:53.280,0:19:57.840
you know the what and what's odd about
0:19:55.980,0:19:59.160
that is the two coats that are doing
0:19:57.840,0:20:01.020
that are whooping everybody or the two
0:19:59.160,0:20:03.240
smallest ones which is the female pup
0:20:01.020,0:20:05.039
and and the little male which is
0:20:03.240,0:20:07.620
Fireball he's the most aggressive pup
0:20:05.039,0:20:08.940
but they are pushing those other ones
0:20:07.620,0:20:11.760
out and
0:20:08.940,0:20:13.679
so right now there's typically anywhere
0:20:11.760,0:20:15.900
from like I said there's about a quarter
0:20:13.679,0:20:18.600
mile stretch between
0:20:15.900,0:20:22.260
the farthest single pup
0:20:18.600,0:20:24.480
and the rest of them so you know if you
0:20:22.260,0:20:26.220
think about that if you go in and and
0:20:24.480,0:20:28.020
make a stand
0:20:26.220,0:20:29.520
and let's just say you hit it to where
0:20:28.020,0:20:30.780
you know let's say you located those
0:20:29.520,0:20:32.580
couch or you knew they were there and
0:20:30.780,0:20:34.679
you were sitting about middle ways and
0:20:32.580,0:20:36.539
had a good win for all of them look at
0:20:34.679,0:20:38.400
the potential that you have for calling
0:20:36.539,0:20:40.740
in couch right there right you know
0:20:38.400,0:20:42.419
you've got you're going to have multiple
0:20:40.740,0:20:45.240
singles
0:20:42.419,0:20:48.360
and you know then that that group of
0:20:45.240,0:20:51.900
three so perfect you know perfect storm
0:20:48.360,0:20:54.840
for to pile up the coyotes right and
0:20:51.900,0:20:57.480
with them scattered out like they are
0:20:54.840,0:21:00.480
you know whichever one comes in first
0:20:57.480,0:21:01.860
you know the way that they move to the
0:21:00.480,0:21:03.660
call and all that you're not hurting
0:21:01.860,0:21:06.840
anything when you you know when you
0:21:03.660,0:21:08.760
shoot and then swap to another sound uh
0:21:06.840,0:21:12.179
I'm sure you saw Greg's post the other
0:21:08.760,0:21:13.440
day he killed five yeah and I was
0:21:12.179,0:21:16.380
reading through the field the whole
0:21:13.440,0:21:18.299
village yeah and it was pretty much I
0:21:16.380,0:21:19.860
think that was pretty much individual
0:21:18.299,0:21:21.240
call-ins
0:21:19.860,0:21:23.760
own
0:21:21.240,0:21:26.400
on one stand yeah where he killed five
0:21:23.760,0:21:28.740
cows but it was you know he'd play a
0:21:26.400,0:21:30.960
sound kill a cow he just kept sitting
0:21:28.740,0:21:32.220
there and it was all pup piles and then
0:21:30.960,0:21:34.620
I think he went to put fights right
0:21:32.220,0:21:37.440
there at the end yeah and so it's just
0:21:34.620,0:21:39.360
that's not that's not an accident no I
0:21:37.440,0:21:41.460
know you can call up coyotes
0:21:39.360,0:21:43.260
any time of the year on any sound but
0:21:41.460,0:21:45.659
it's not an accident that those pull
0:21:43.260,0:21:48.059
piles pup fights and your prey distress
0:21:45.659,0:21:49.860
is starting to work so well and the
0:21:48.059,0:21:51.840
examples you gave and then a couple of
0:21:49.860,0:21:54.179
those that we were just talking about
0:21:51.840,0:21:56.880
uh people need to keep that in mind
0:21:54.179,0:21:59.280
while they're you know while they're
0:21:56.880,0:22:01.980
calling and don't get hung up either on
0:21:59.280,0:22:05.400
you know if you're running club house
0:22:01.980,0:22:07.620
and pump fights and you're calling
0:22:05.400,0:22:09.840
coyotes and then all of a sudden that
0:22:07.620,0:22:11.700
stops it's it may be because you're not
0:22:09.840,0:22:13.620
mixing enough prey distress in there or
0:22:11.700,0:22:15.659
vice versa you're running prey distress
0:22:13.620,0:22:17.880
and you're not calling them then maybe
0:22:15.659,0:22:20.100
you need to be a little more you know
0:22:17.880,0:22:21.960
focus a little more add some Club tiles
0:22:20.100,0:22:24.360
in there if you don't already have that
0:22:21.960,0:22:25.799
structure with your sequence well let me
0:22:24.360,0:22:28.080
ask you about that when do you think
0:22:25.799,0:22:29.700
we'll see another transition in the
0:22:28.080,0:22:33.179
coyotes referring to their their
0:22:29.700,0:22:35.159
behavior uh and how they be acting over
0:22:33.179,0:22:36.720
say you know we're talking about this
0:22:35.159,0:22:39.360
should be working all the way up through
0:22:36.720,0:22:41.640
October when do you see the next
0:22:39.360,0:22:44.039
transition when the coyote Behavior will
0:22:41.640,0:22:45.960
start to to move again to maybe that
0:22:44.039,0:22:47.039
actual dispersal period that you were
0:22:45.960,0:22:50.580
mentioning
0:22:47.039,0:22:52.140
but with every day that passes you know
0:22:50.580,0:22:54.539
those those couch still have that
0:22:52.140,0:22:56.880
tendency as they're getting busted up
0:22:54.539,0:23:00.120
they still have that tendency to want to
0:22:56.880,0:23:02.520
reunite and so they it's a gradual kind
0:23:00.120,0:23:04.980
of a slow gradual process to where they
0:23:02.520,0:23:08.340
actually quit doing that and I think
0:23:04.980,0:23:10.080
that runs through to keep it simple I
0:23:08.340,0:23:12.600
think you could say going through
0:23:10.080,0:23:15.360
October you can expect what we're
0:23:12.600,0:23:17.820
talking about right now and then it's
0:23:15.360,0:23:20.820
it's a more of a slight transition to
0:23:17.820,0:23:23.280
where I believe your your family bust up
0:23:20.820,0:23:24.840
is leaning more towards pup dispersal
0:23:23.280,0:23:26.700
and some pups don't disperse for two
0:23:24.840,0:23:29.460
years I mean they'll stay in that area
0:23:26.700,0:23:31.380
for you know their full first year and
0:23:29.460,0:23:33.000
it'll be into the second you know going
0:23:31.380,0:23:37.280
into their second year before they
0:23:33.000,0:23:40.799
actually disperse right so
0:23:37.280,0:23:43.020
but if you back up to that tail end of
0:23:40.799,0:23:46.200
October I think the bulk of your pups
0:23:43.020,0:23:48.240
and the bulk of your family group have
0:23:46.200,0:23:50.039
started acting as individuals by that
0:23:48.240,0:23:52.260
time of the year so basically going into
0:23:50.039,0:23:54.179
November you start getting a lot of
0:23:52.260,0:23:57.000
coats that are functioning as
0:23:54.179,0:23:59.280
individuals your parent haven't started
0:23:57.000,0:24:01.559
yet family bust up has pretty well taken
0:23:59.280,0:24:04.679
place most of your coats are functioning
0:24:01.559,0:24:05.760
on their own and so I think that's when
0:24:04.679,0:24:08.460
you see
0:24:05.760,0:24:10.200
another transition is not as big a
0:24:08.460,0:24:13.140
transition but I think that's when your
0:24:10.200,0:24:16.799
prey distress sounds really start coming
0:24:13.140,0:24:20.299
more towards the front and become more
0:24:16.799,0:24:22.919
uh the basics of a sequence
0:24:20.299,0:24:24.299
for a couple of reasons one being for
0:24:22.919,0:24:25.440
what we're talking about with coyotes
0:24:24.299,0:24:28.980
but two
0:24:25.440,0:24:30.600
because in most areas like bobcat and
0:24:28.980,0:24:32.640
fox season have already opened here they
0:24:30.600,0:24:35.340
opened September 1st so a lot of
0:24:32.640,0:24:37.260
Predator Hunters are not only I know you
0:24:35.340,0:24:38.640
uh you and Corey Groff talk about it on
0:24:37.260,0:24:39.960
the earlier podcast that's another one
0:24:38.640,0:24:42.659
people ought to check out some really
0:24:39.960,0:24:44.520
good stuff on bobcats in that one but
0:24:42.659,0:24:45.900
there are a lot of Predator Hunters that
0:24:44.520,0:24:47.700
are not only
0:24:45.900,0:24:50.580
they're not going to be focused solely
0:24:47.700,0:24:52.500
on coyotes anymore right and so you hit
0:24:50.580,0:24:54.419
that time frame where family bust up
0:24:52.500,0:24:56.820
with the coyotes is has pretty well
0:24:54.419,0:24:59.940
taken place people are starting to look
0:24:56.820,0:25:01.919
at at all predators as a as an
0:24:59.940,0:25:04.580
opportunity when they're on stand so I
0:25:01.919,0:25:07.559
think that's when we see the next
0:25:04.580,0:25:09.600
transition and change to where you know
0:25:07.559,0:25:12.000
maybe we're opening stands with
0:25:09.600,0:25:14.940
prejudice Chris or we're running more
0:25:12.000,0:25:17.100
prey distress during our stand right I'm
0:25:14.940,0:25:19.200
not saying I run vocals year round but
0:25:17.100,0:25:21.659
prey distress becomes a part of yourself
0:25:19.200,0:25:23.640
more of a yeah and I move it towards the
0:25:21.659,0:25:26.100
front of the sequence I start focusing
0:25:23.640,0:25:29.220
on prey distress especially if they're a
0:25:26.100,0:25:31.919
fox or bobcat in the area yep and you
0:25:29.220,0:25:34.679
know it just becomes a bigger part of it
0:25:31.919,0:25:37.440
and I think that's where I'm better off
0:25:34.679,0:25:40.200
to flip the script on you and instead of
0:25:37.440,0:25:42.720
you interviewing me flip this around and
0:25:40.200,0:25:45.179
ask you you know what when we swap over
0:25:42.720,0:25:47.940
to prey distress and I like to tell
0:25:45.179,0:25:51.059
people the truth I don't I don't like to
0:25:47.940,0:25:52.559
BS people any kind of way at mfk we've
0:25:51.059,0:25:54.000
got some some really good prey distress
0:25:52.559,0:25:56.279
sounds some of those yellow Hammer
0:25:54.000,0:25:58.740
sounds bird sounds yes that I've
0:25:56.279,0:26:00.720
recorded I mean their actual prey
0:25:58.740,0:26:02.520
distress sounds caused by the coats
0:26:00.720,0:26:04.679
they're great sounds I've got a handful
0:26:02.520,0:26:06.900
of good prey distress sounds
0:26:04.679,0:26:10.080
but if I'm going to tell y'all the truth
0:26:06.900,0:26:13.080
this is where y'all need to y'all need
0:26:10.080,0:26:15.779
to be running those prey sounds out of
0:26:13.080,0:26:17.700
that Foxpro library because nobody has a
0:26:15.779,0:26:21.720
better prey distress Library than Foxpro
0:26:17.700,0:26:25.140
has that's just the truth and you know
0:26:21.720,0:26:27.120
those sounds better than I do so when we
0:26:25.140,0:26:28.799
get to that time of the year
0:26:27.120,0:26:31.620
what are you going to what are you going
0:26:28.799,0:26:33.900
to play oh you know and that that Tori
0:26:31.620,0:26:36.059
is so right with that and and the thing
0:26:33.900,0:26:38.179
is we've got the two best sound
0:26:36.059,0:26:41.220
libraries that a predator Hunter can use
0:26:38.179,0:26:43.080
you're you're crazy not to mix them you
0:26:41.220,0:26:44.640
know you've got they're there for you to
0:26:43.080,0:26:47.279
use take advantage of it mix those
0:26:44.640,0:26:50.400
sounds you know run mfk stuff with the
0:26:47.279,0:26:52.740
Foxpro stuff Tori just talked about you
0:26:50.400,0:26:55.679
know the mfk sounds the coyote vocals
0:26:52.740,0:26:57.679
are the stronger of the libraries
0:26:55.679,0:27:00.059
our prey district and the fox Pro
0:26:57.679,0:27:02.580
prestrial Sounds are really Stout
0:27:00.059,0:27:04.080
especially the rabbit sounds and that's
0:27:02.580,0:27:05.820
one of the things the fall goes on
0:27:04.080,0:27:07.559
that's what I usually start doing I'm a
0:27:05.820,0:27:10.440
I'm a big rabbit guy I love rabbit
0:27:07.559,0:27:12.480
distresses I start using more and more
0:27:10.440,0:27:14.220
rabbit distresses as the fall goes on
0:27:12.480,0:27:16.440
instead of just playing two minutes of
0:27:14.220,0:27:18.720
baby Cottontail I might start playing
0:27:16.440,0:27:20.880
four to six minutes of cagey Cottontail
0:27:18.720,0:27:22.679
and then when cagey cocktails at the end
0:27:20.880,0:27:25.380
of that four to six minutes I might
0:27:22.679,0:27:27.720
pause and then start up a eastern
0:27:25.380,0:27:30.059
cottontail or or some other one the
0:27:27.720,0:27:31.799
Cottontail sounds or Jackrabbit sounds
0:27:30.059,0:27:34.500
from PAW Patrol I'll play up to eight to
0:27:31.799,0:27:36.720
ten minutes worth of uh of rabbit sounds
0:27:34.500,0:27:39.620
in my sequences throughout the fall like
0:27:36.720,0:27:42.480
like Tori said I'm still playing
0:27:39.620,0:27:45.480
the the house the fights the pup
0:27:42.480,0:27:47.760
distresses and stuff but the prey
0:27:45.480,0:27:49.679
distress really comes in pretty heavy as
0:27:47.760,0:27:51.960
well and sometimes heavier than the
0:27:49.679,0:27:53.700
coyote vocals and I've always said you
0:27:51.960,0:27:55.260
know just to go right off Tories what
0:27:53.700,0:27:57.360
Tori said about the prey distress sounds
0:27:55.260,0:28:02.159
from Fox Pro I've said this numerous
0:27:57.360,0:28:04.740
times if if you cannot find a handful
0:28:02.159,0:28:07.500
of fox Pro prey distress sounds that
0:28:04.740,0:28:09.120
work for you it's not the sounds or the
0:28:07.500,0:28:10.860
collar it's something else that you're
0:28:09.120,0:28:13.140
doing it ain't right because they are
0:28:10.860,0:28:15.539
they are money you need to be running
0:28:13.140,0:28:17.880
them I'm talking about dozens upon
0:28:15.539,0:28:21.299
dozens of these sounds that will produce
0:28:17.880,0:28:24.720
hard Chargers of coyotes foxes and
0:28:21.299,0:28:26.820
bobcats so definitely be uh definitely
0:28:24.720,0:28:30.000
be mixing those two libraries like I
0:28:26.820,0:28:33.179
said the mfk vocals are so Stout
0:28:30.000,0:28:34.860
undeniably the best in the business best
0:28:33.179,0:28:36.419
available out there you definitely need
0:28:34.860,0:28:39.120
to be running them and when it comes to
0:28:36.419,0:28:40.799
prey distress side do not shy away from
0:28:39.120,0:28:43.799
the fox Pro prey distress hands because
0:28:40.799,0:28:45.419
they are absolute money
0:28:43.799,0:28:47.400
yeah and that while you were talking
0:28:45.419,0:28:49.679
about that that made me think of another
0:28:47.400,0:28:52.620
another point you know we kind of put a
0:28:49.679,0:28:54.120
a time frame on when that stuff starts
0:28:52.620,0:28:56.340
up when we're going to run more prey
0:28:54.120,0:28:59.220
distress and I think that's a good you
0:28:56.340,0:29:01.980
know General time frame but
0:28:59.220,0:29:04.020
something people should do is and and we
0:29:01.980,0:29:05.480
talked about it on previous podcasts
0:29:04.020,0:29:07.740
I've heard you mention it multiple times
0:29:05.480,0:29:09.659
if you're running something and it's
0:29:07.740,0:29:11.580
working let's say you're running long
0:29:09.659,0:29:14.100
pup piles and pup fights and they're
0:29:11.580,0:29:15.659
coming to it and November hits and
0:29:14.100,0:29:18.179
you're still calling cows up on that
0:29:15.659,0:29:19.260
don't just Swap and start running prey
0:29:18.179,0:29:21.419
distress
0:29:19.260,0:29:24.000
right keep running what you're running
0:29:21.419,0:29:26.039
it's working but let's flip that and say
0:29:24.000,0:29:28.380
all right you're running that and it had
0:29:26.039,0:29:29.940
November hadn't hit yet and they quit
0:29:28.380,0:29:31.500
coming to that stuff even if it was
0:29:29.940,0:29:33.539
right now
0:29:31.500,0:29:35.640
start changing your sequence start
0:29:33.539,0:29:37.380
adding those prey distress sounds in our
0:29:35.640,0:29:39.840
vice versa if you're running the prey
0:29:37.380,0:29:42.179
flip it and add those pup piles and pup
0:29:39.840,0:29:43.860
fights you know if if you're not calling
0:29:42.179,0:29:45.720
stuff up
0:29:43.860,0:29:48.000
like you just like John just said it's
0:29:45.720,0:29:50.460
not the sounds
0:29:48.000,0:29:52.140
it's what you're doing with the sounds
0:29:50.460,0:29:53.760
and the sounds you're choosing at that
0:29:52.140,0:29:56.880
time of the year you can have a sound
0:29:53.760,0:29:59.580
like whatever the sound may be that's
0:29:56.880,0:30:01.620
killer today and all of a sudden that
0:29:59.580,0:30:03.179
sound quit working tomorrow and you need
0:30:01.620,0:30:05.480
to swap to something else that sound
0:30:03.179,0:30:08.580
will come back around and work again but
0:30:05.480,0:30:09.960
uh I hate that sometimes people get and
0:30:08.580,0:30:11.460
I know you deal with this talking to
0:30:09.960,0:30:13.880
people in messages and stuff they want
0:30:11.460,0:30:15.679
that that business
0:30:13.880,0:30:18.779
what's your best
0:30:15.679,0:30:20.940
and time frame you know if you say well
0:30:18.779,0:30:23.580
November you need to start running
0:30:20.940,0:30:24.899
prey distress sounds right that's just I
0:30:23.580,0:30:26.220
want people to know that's just a
0:30:24.899,0:30:29.100
generalized
0:30:26.220,0:30:29.940
idea of when you need to start thinking
0:30:29.100,0:30:31.679
about
0:30:29.940,0:30:34.500
you know doing stuff like that but don't
0:30:31.679,0:30:36.419
just change uh something that's working
0:30:34.500,0:30:37.799
and if something's not working then you
0:30:36.419,0:30:40.140
need to go ahead and change it yeah
0:30:37.799,0:30:42.779
that's exactly right and and just to
0:30:40.140,0:30:44.700
kind of add to that I'll keep running
0:30:42.779,0:30:46.559
the sequence that I'm running now with
0:30:44.700,0:30:48.360
uh with the house pray distress
0:30:46.559,0:30:50.220
submissive then fights I'm gonna keep
0:30:48.360,0:30:54.600
running that till I start to see it
0:30:50.220,0:30:57.059
slack off you know what will dictate me
0:30:54.600,0:30:59.700
running my prey distress sounds longer
0:30:57.059,0:31:01.679
as soon as I start seeing more call-ins
0:30:59.700,0:31:03.779
that actually come charging into when I
0:31:01.679,0:31:05.399
do play that rabbit I'll probably start
0:31:03.779,0:31:06.419
stretching that rabbit out a little bit
0:31:05.399,0:31:07.679
like you know like right now I'm playing
0:31:06.419,0:31:09.360
it for like two minutes
0:31:07.679,0:31:10.919
you know if I start seeing a bunch of
0:31:09.360,0:31:12.539
coyotes start showing up to the rabbit
0:31:10.919,0:31:14.340
sounds it'll start being like four
0:31:12.539,0:31:16.620
minutes then it'll probably start being
0:31:14.340,0:31:18.960
six minutes and then so on and so on
0:31:16.620,0:31:21.960
especially just like uh Tori said about
0:31:18.960,0:31:24.299
about bobcats and stuff when my Bobcat
0:31:21.960,0:31:26.340
season gets here I want to be very prey
0:31:24.299,0:31:28.140
heavy and especially if I think I got a
0:31:26.340,0:31:29.640
bobcat hold up in a ticket in a head of
0:31:28.140,0:31:31.620
a holler or something you best believe
0:31:29.640,0:31:33.059
probably the first three sounds that
0:31:31.620,0:31:36.539
come out my collar is going to be some
0:31:33.059,0:31:38.039
form of prey distress uh yeah and like
0:31:36.539,0:31:39.539
you said when you start seeing them
0:31:38.039,0:31:40.919
let's say you're running you know you're
0:31:39.539,0:31:42.299
running right the sequence you're
0:31:40.919,0:31:43.860
running right now if you're running that
0:31:42.299,0:31:45.600
rabbit distress Midway through the
0:31:43.860,0:31:47.700
sequence and you start seeing Triggers
0:31:45.600,0:31:49.980
on that yes you probably do like I do
0:31:47.700,0:31:51.419
and it's not the third sound you play
0:31:49.980,0:31:54.840
you're moving on move to number one
0:31:51.419,0:31:56.760
exactly and you just rearrange the order
0:31:54.840,0:32:00.179
you still run the sequence you still run
0:31:56.760,0:32:02.220
to see you know to cover it all but uh
0:32:00.179,0:32:05.700
you just move and rearrange those sounds
0:32:02.220,0:32:07.860
it's sometimes I think people overthink
0:32:05.700,0:32:10.679
the order that they need to play sounds
0:32:07.860,0:32:13.320
the length of time if they need spaces
0:32:10.679,0:32:16.440
in between you know you can change all
0:32:13.320,0:32:18.480
that stuff up and have success on all of
0:32:16.440,0:32:21.480
it and a lot of times that's what you
0:32:18.480,0:32:22.740
need to do to uh to find what is you
0:32:21.480,0:32:25.200
know what's working and what's working
0:32:22.740,0:32:27.720
best and when you find that you know
0:32:25.200,0:32:29.340
don't hesitate to change your uh
0:32:27.720,0:32:31.320
change the order of your sounds around
0:32:29.340,0:32:33.779
right run them longer run them in a
0:32:31.320,0:32:36.299
different place exactly exactly well
0:32:33.779,0:32:39.179
Tory let's uh for this time of year you
0:32:36.299,0:32:41.880
know through October here give us like
0:32:39.179,0:32:45.980
say your top three favorite halves that
0:32:41.880,0:32:45.980
you'll run through the October month
0:32:46.860,0:32:53.760
uh I really really like
0:32:51.179,0:32:56.399
I've got some new sounds but until they
0:32:53.760,0:32:57.779
release there's not enough no so we'll
0:32:56.399,0:33:00.059
just stick with what everybody knows
0:32:57.779,0:33:02.460
about uh
0:33:00.059,0:33:05.340
I really like for the pub Pals I really
0:33:02.460,0:33:08.640
like that bam pup pile
0:33:05.340,0:33:10.500
um I really like the little beat uh pup
0:33:08.640,0:33:12.840
Pals and bougie when I'm running Pub
0:33:10.500,0:33:14.519
Pals I'm gonna run all those I love I
0:33:12.840,0:33:18.299
don't know how many coyotes we had
0:33:14.519,0:33:21.240
vocally respond and show up on bougie
0:33:18.299,0:33:23.100
whiny pup out and I know uh I know Al
0:33:21.240,0:33:25.559
and you talked about some of the little
0:33:23.100,0:33:29.760
beef whimper house uh how well they work
0:33:25.559,0:33:31.620
and then uh bam Papa has been a killer
0:33:29.760,0:33:33.360
for a while as soon as I release that
0:33:31.620,0:33:35.279
sound Jimmy white in Tennessee started
0:33:33.360,0:33:37.559
thumping them and I mean that's kind of
0:33:35.279,0:33:39.840
where what Jesus he's always stopping
0:33:37.559,0:33:41.820
them but oh yeah yeah that's several of
0:33:39.840,0:33:44.460
them Tennessee Killers but but Jimmy was
0:33:41.820,0:33:46.200
one of the ones that really started he
0:33:44.460,0:33:47.940
sent me a couple messages right after I
0:33:46.200,0:33:49.500
released that sound he got it started
0:33:47.940,0:33:50.760
running it and he he sent me a couple
0:33:49.500,0:33:52.019
messages he said I'm telling you this
0:33:50.760,0:33:53.220
bam pup
0:33:52.019,0:33:55.559
is
0:33:53.220,0:33:57.659
is the Killer and I started running it
0:33:55.559,0:33:58.799
some and sure enough it's uh so those
0:33:57.659,0:34:01.080
would be
0:33:58.799,0:34:03.120
those would be the the three pull Pals
0:34:01.080,0:34:05.039
that I would that I would favor and I
0:34:03.120,0:34:06.840
would probably a lot of times I will run
0:34:05.039,0:34:09.240
all three of them right away it will at
0:34:06.840,0:34:11.820
least run two of the three right in the
0:34:09.240,0:34:13.679
sequence right well that's uh that spot
0:34:11.820,0:34:16.440
that spot on with what I've been seeing
0:34:13.679,0:34:18.599
I tend to gravitate it towards the BAM
0:34:16.440,0:34:20.820
pup house and a little bee pup house
0:34:18.599,0:34:22.260
seen some really really good responses
0:34:20.820,0:34:23.820
from that
0:34:22.260,0:34:25.320
um we start we're talking about mixing
0:34:23.820,0:34:27.240
in some prey distress sounds what would
0:34:25.320,0:34:29.820
be your top three prey distress sound
0:34:27.240,0:34:33.780
you start mixing in this time of year
0:34:29.820,0:34:35.159
I love I record this came from and I'll
0:34:33.780,0:34:36.540
just tell you how I got the sounds I
0:34:35.159,0:34:38.820
actually have recordings of this I've
0:34:36.540,0:34:40.619
never never shown them I will eventually
0:34:38.820,0:34:43.619
for people to keep up with the pages and
0:34:40.619,0:34:45.780
stuff it's some awesome footage but you
0:34:43.619,0:34:48.599
know I'm in Deep South Arkansas we
0:34:45.780,0:34:50.760
rarely get snow and we sure don't get
0:34:48.599,0:34:52.560
snow that sticks but when we do and it's
0:34:50.760,0:34:54.359
on the ground for a couple days the
0:34:52.560,0:34:57.300
birds around here after about two to
0:34:54.359,0:34:59.160
three days they get sluggish and you
0:34:57.300,0:35:00.720
know they're on the ground well those
0:34:59.160,0:35:01.920
coyotes start catching those birds but
0:35:00.720,0:35:04.380
they don't kill them they catch them and
0:35:01.920,0:35:06.180
play way with them really okay yeah
0:35:04.380,0:35:08.220
that's another thing that a lot of
0:35:06.180,0:35:11.160
people don't know is how how much
0:35:08.220,0:35:14.119
catching and killing coyotes do well
0:35:11.160,0:35:16.440
actually catching and torturing cows do
0:35:14.119,0:35:18.359
playing with their food and a lot of
0:35:16.440,0:35:21.900
times they don't eat it they they kill
0:35:18.359,0:35:24.000
for sport or for fun but anyway back to
0:35:21.900,0:35:26.400
those prey distress sounds I recorded
0:35:24.000,0:35:27.960
some woodpecker sounds uh flycatcher was
0:35:26.400,0:35:30.599
one of them I really like that one but
0:35:27.960,0:35:33.359
my top picks would be yeah L hammered
0:35:30.599,0:35:35.640
pecker brokebacker those are both it's a
0:35:33.359,0:35:36.599
yellowhammer woodpecker sound and I have
0:35:35.640,0:35:39.480
had
0:35:36.599,0:35:42.240
I mean just a Pilots of success running
0:35:39.480,0:35:44.460
those two sounds I really like those I
0:35:42.240,0:35:46.800
like goody Woody Woodpecker a lot and
0:35:44.460,0:35:47.820
then uh if I was going to throw a rabbit
0:35:46.800,0:35:50.400
in there
0:35:47.820,0:35:52.680
from the mfk library I would probably go
0:35:50.400,0:35:54.839
with cotton bomb had some pretty good
0:35:52.680,0:35:57.960
and I don't run a whole lot of rabbit
0:35:54.839,0:35:59.220
but uh and then of course on the fox Pro
0:35:57.960,0:36:01.740
side of it
0:35:59.220,0:36:04.200
I heard y'all talking about it uh on the
0:36:01.740,0:36:07.980
podcast the other day with Mike
0:36:04.200,0:36:09.540
from I mean I know how it's viewed
0:36:07.980,0:36:11.460
nowadays because it's been out so long
0:36:09.540,0:36:14.180
and people kind of make fun of other
0:36:11.460,0:36:17.599
people using Lightning Jack yeah yeah
0:36:14.180,0:36:17.599
that's dumb
0:36:18.320,0:36:23.460
there's a reason there's a reason people
0:36:21.119,0:36:25.560
talk about you know play play Lightning
0:36:23.460,0:36:27.480
Jack and because everybody was killing
0:36:25.560,0:36:29.579
off that sound and it's still a good
0:36:27.480,0:36:31.320
sound yes
0:36:29.579,0:36:33.180
and of course you've already mentioned a
0:36:31.320,0:36:35.640
couple of other ones uh cagey Cottontail
0:36:33.180,0:36:38.400
and I'll tell you this uh some of the
0:36:35.640,0:36:40.440
tournament guys when they were hunting
0:36:38.400,0:36:42.599
and winning some of those bigger
0:36:40.440,0:36:44.220
contests when they were running the prey
0:36:42.599,0:36:46.500
distress and they were swapping back and
0:36:44.220,0:36:48.660
forth between cagey Cottontail and
0:36:46.500,0:36:51.839
cotton bomb those were the now I'm gonna
0:36:48.660,0:36:53.460
get phone calls after these podcasts and
0:36:51.839,0:36:55.260
me yeah
0:36:53.460,0:36:58.020
but I think they pretty much made their
0:36:55.260,0:36:59.760
tournament run so yeah that's right
0:36:58.020,0:37:01.260
that's right I I know who you're talking
0:36:59.760,0:37:02.880
about they'll be better than Hornets I'm
0:37:01.260,0:37:04.440
sure just it's like towards the
0:37:02.880,0:37:07.339
admission lightning Jackson we do see it
0:37:04.440,0:37:09.599
a lot you see joke upon joke about it
0:37:07.339,0:37:11.940
lightning Jack is probably the kill of
0:37:09.599,0:37:13.440
this rabbit sound ever recorded there's
0:37:11.940,0:37:14.700
a reason why it gets talked about so
0:37:13.440,0:37:17.160
much
0:37:14.700,0:37:20.339
um man I kind of gravitated away from it
0:37:17.160,0:37:22.440
a little bit over the last few years
0:37:20.339,0:37:24.599
um for one reason is a couple years ago
0:37:22.440,0:37:25.920
Foxpro come out with a with several new
0:37:24.599,0:37:28.260
rabbit sounds so I was putting them
0:37:25.920,0:37:30.240
through their Paces uh and plus you know
0:37:28.260,0:37:32.220
I was kind of maybe thinking that it's
0:37:30.240,0:37:34.619
been played too much but this past
0:37:32.220,0:37:37.500
winter I started mixing Lightning Jack
0:37:34.619,0:37:39.420
in uh to my sequences again because I
0:37:37.500,0:37:42.180
I'd start I'd I'd hunted all my ground
0:37:39.420,0:37:44.400
out but I still had coyotes on that
0:37:42.180,0:37:45.660
ground that could be called in so I
0:37:44.400,0:37:47.820
needed to be playing some different
0:37:45.660,0:37:51.359
sounds I started putting Lightning Jack
0:37:47.820,0:37:53.520
back in my goodness was I called in the
0:37:51.359,0:37:55.800
coyotes to kill a bobcat off of it
0:37:53.520,0:37:57.780
killed several coyotes lightning Jacks
0:37:55.800,0:38:00.180
money and always will be those those
0:37:57.780,0:38:03.240
sounds are terrific
0:38:00.180,0:38:07.140
um for me top three prey distress sounds
0:38:03.240,0:38:09.540
where Tori's more bird heavy I'm the
0:38:07.140,0:38:11.099
other way around I'm rabid uh I'm not
0:38:09.540,0:38:14.160
going to throw Lightning Jack in that
0:38:11.099,0:38:16.740
top three uh it's it's it's in the top
0:38:14.160,0:38:20.160
five probably but my top three are kg
0:38:16.740,0:38:22.079
Cottontail baby Cottontail and Mrs MC
0:38:20.160,0:38:23.760
Cottontail right now I'm playing a lot
0:38:22.079,0:38:25.859
of baby cotton I shouldn't say a lot of
0:38:23.760,0:38:27.480
I don't play like two minutes of it uh
0:38:25.859,0:38:29.880
but that's what I'm playing right now
0:38:27.480,0:38:31.859
through my sequence on up into the fall
0:38:29.880,0:38:33.960
when I start seeing
0:38:31.859,0:38:35.700
coyotes responding more and more to prey
0:38:33.960,0:38:38.280
distressed sounds I'm gonna start
0:38:35.700,0:38:41.099
playing my cagey Cottontail and Mrs MC
0:38:38.280,0:38:43.680
Cottontail a lot more and it's going to
0:38:41.099,0:38:45.359
be several more minutes of it and
0:38:43.680,0:38:48.180
another reason is like I was talking
0:38:45.359,0:38:51.060
about earlier the Bobcats man there's a
0:38:48.180,0:38:54.480
bobcatar and he hears cagey cocktail Mrs
0:38:51.060,0:38:56.220
MC Cottontail he he or she cannot resist
0:38:54.480,0:38:58.260
it they will come stick their head wrap
0:38:56.220,0:38:59.220
the speaker so great sounds to be
0:38:58.260,0:39:01.260
running
0:38:59.220,0:39:03.060
yeah and you asked me what my top three
0:39:01.260,0:39:04.800
prey distress sounds were and I don't
0:39:03.060,0:39:06.599
know that I've if I were really gonna
0:39:04.800,0:39:08.160
pick my top three what I've been most
0:39:06.599,0:39:10.200
successful with I'd probably say yellow
0:39:08.160,0:39:12.480
hammered pecker or broke pecker they're
0:39:10.200,0:39:14.640
interchangeable for the Woodpecker and
0:39:12.480,0:39:17.339
then [ __ ] distress and great Fox
0:39:14.640,0:39:19.680
distress which is odd but I have killed
0:39:17.339,0:39:21.480
piles and piles I used to run one sound
0:39:19.680,0:39:23.099
and that was a great boxing stress
0:39:21.480,0:39:25.200
that's the only prey distress I would
0:39:23.099,0:39:27.480
ever run I ran it for cats coats right
0:39:25.200,0:39:29.760
and of course Fox and I can't tell you
0:39:27.480,0:39:31.380
how many predators I've killed off of
0:39:29.760,0:39:32.220
those sounds
0:39:31.380,0:39:36.060
um
0:39:32.220,0:39:38.520
the best morning uh Bobcat calling I've
0:39:36.060,0:39:40.320
ever had we called in six one morning
0:39:38.520,0:39:41.880
this is when I when I say one morning
0:39:40.320,0:39:42.660
I'm talking from like daylight to 10
0:39:41.880,0:39:45.839
o'clock
0:39:42.660,0:39:48.060
uh Carey Wayne and I and his boy we
0:39:45.839,0:39:50.099
called in six cats that morning five of
0:39:48.060,0:39:52.440
them came to [ __ ] Express called up one
0:39:50.099,0:39:54.420
on rabbit with a diaphragm and I should
0:39:52.440,0:39:56.099
I actually forgot to mention that when I
0:39:54.420,0:39:58.380
run Rabbit a lot of times I do it on a
0:39:56.099,0:40:01.740
diaphragm do you really okay but yeah
0:39:58.380,0:40:04.200
yeah I like I like to mix both and
0:40:01.740,0:40:06.420
for me when I'm running prey distress
0:40:04.200,0:40:07.920
sounds or anything else
0:40:06.420,0:40:09.599
you know it's like a loaded question
0:40:07.920,0:40:12.599
when you ask me to pick three because
0:40:09.599,0:40:13.619
after having these these couch for so
0:40:12.599,0:40:15.780
long
0:40:13.619,0:40:18.359
and and testing sounds on them you've
0:40:15.780,0:40:20.520
heard me talk about it before I play a
0:40:18.359,0:40:22.560
lot of sounds a lot of times they're
0:40:20.520,0:40:25.940
from the same category and I don't want
0:40:22.560,0:40:29.720
them very long two three minutes
0:40:25.940,0:40:32.280
from the coyotes yep yeah so I may run
0:40:29.720,0:40:34.980
cotton bombs swap over to Yellow
0:40:32.280,0:40:36.839
hammered pecker go right back to Cajun
0:40:34.980,0:40:38.760
Cottontail come right back to Woods rat
0:40:36.839,0:40:41.640
go to the [ __ ] distress you know and I'm
0:40:38.760,0:40:43.740
running multiple prey sounds right and I
0:40:41.640,0:40:45.119
don't know that that you know it's hard
0:40:43.740,0:40:47.760
for me to say well this is a favorite
0:40:45.119,0:40:49.619
one when I when that's how I actually
0:40:47.760,0:40:52.140
called right you know what I'm saying
0:40:49.619,0:40:53.220
and I'm the same way and the reason I
0:40:52.140,0:40:54.780
was asking you know just let everybody
0:40:53.220,0:40:55.619
know the reason I'm asking for it
0:40:54.780,0:40:57.119
because this is one of the main
0:40:55.619,0:40:58.440
questions we get a lot of times what's
0:40:57.119,0:40:59.880
your favorite rabbit sound what's your
0:40:58.440,0:41:02.280
favorite how what's your top three
0:40:59.880,0:41:04.079
sounds whatever so you know I know guys
0:41:02.280,0:41:07.020
are going to be asking that so now you
0:41:04.079,0:41:09.780
all heard them and and you know I named
0:41:07.020,0:41:11.520
top three but the thing is number four
0:41:09.780,0:41:13.560
number five number six all the way
0:41:11.520,0:41:16.200
through like number 15 or
0:41:13.560,0:41:18.420
tied on their heels I mean are that good
0:41:16.200,0:41:20.640
and I mean I can rattle off a dozen
0:41:18.420,0:41:23.520
sounds for you that I might go start
0:41:20.640,0:41:27.119
running tomorrow that I know I'll have
0:41:23.520,0:41:29.280
call-ins on do not be afraid to try
0:41:27.119,0:41:30.900
different sounds out because all these
0:41:29.280,0:41:33.359
sounds we put out that we put on these
0:41:30.900,0:41:34.440
collars we'll call in Predators every
0:41:33.359,0:41:36.540
single one of them if they would we
0:41:34.440,0:41:39.119
wouldn't put them on there
0:41:36.540,0:41:41.579
yeah and you you will also find
0:41:39.119,0:41:44.099
certain areas that have you know a
0:41:41.579,0:41:45.900
little higher rate to one they all call
0:41:44.099,0:41:47.400
everywhere don't get me wrong but you'll
0:41:45.900,0:41:50.339
find those areas where they seem to
0:41:47.400,0:41:52.400
favor uh a certain rabbit over another
0:41:50.339,0:41:55.260
one for whatever reason right right
0:41:52.400,0:41:59.520
but it's
0:41:55.260,0:42:01.859
my opinion is a good idea to play
0:41:59.520,0:42:04.320
multiple sounds having those top sounds
0:42:01.859,0:42:07.020
those top picks as a starting point are
0:42:04.320,0:42:08.640
great but don't get too hung up on this
0:42:07.020,0:42:10.440
is my and you see people do it all the
0:42:08.640,0:42:12.780
time and I understand it I used to do it
0:42:10.440,0:42:15.300
when I first started you get a stand you
0:42:12.780,0:42:17.579
call up a cut a coat on it
0:42:15.300,0:42:19.500
and all of a sudden that's that's what
0:42:17.579,0:42:21.540
you go to because it worked and so you
0:42:19.500,0:42:23.040
have a tendency to go back to what
0:42:21.540,0:42:26.520
worked and there's nothing wrong with
0:42:23.040,0:42:29.220
that but when it's not working
0:42:26.520,0:42:32.040
don't stay on that sound don't run don't
0:42:29.220,0:42:34.320
play the same sound for 8 10 the the
0:42:32.040,0:42:36.660
entirety of your stand
0:42:34.320,0:42:38.339
swap to something else and you can find
0:42:36.660,0:42:40.440
other sounds
0:42:38.339,0:42:43.260
that work just as well as that one or
0:42:40.440,0:42:45.180
two or three that you know may may have
0:42:43.260,0:42:47.640
been your top picks
0:42:45.180,0:42:48.960
uh going into it I know what you're
0:42:47.640,0:42:52.980
saying everybody needs a starting point
0:42:48.960,0:42:54.599
right especially it's new guys but don't
0:42:52.980,0:42:57.060
get too hung up on those one or two
0:42:54.599,0:42:59.400
three sounds and you you guys have heard
0:42:57.060,0:43:01.920
us talk about them enough we we give you
0:42:59.400,0:43:04.020
some we threw some sounds out there for
0:43:01.920,0:43:05.940
you guys to to check out give them a try
0:43:04.020,0:43:07.260
they work trust me use them all over the
0:43:05.940,0:43:08.579
country I've been in several different
0:43:07.260,0:43:10.619
states this year and used all those
0:43:08.579,0:43:13.800
sounds and they're they're working uh
0:43:10.619,0:43:16.500
Toy tell us about what water for this
0:43:13.800,0:43:18.060
time period October what are your top
0:43:16.500,0:43:19.680
fights and public stresses that you're
0:43:18.060,0:43:20.760
gonna be running through and plus you
0:43:19.680,0:43:22.800
might as well throw your submissive
0:43:20.760,0:43:25.260
sounds in there as well
0:43:22.800,0:43:28.200
the top submissive sounds are pretty
0:43:25.260,0:43:29.640
easy in that if they have submissive in
0:43:28.200,0:43:31.020
the title and there's about three or
0:43:29.640,0:43:32.640
four of them with submissive in the
0:43:31.020,0:43:34.740
title submissive barriers submissive Tap
0:43:32.640,0:43:37.980
Out submissive wines
0:43:34.740,0:43:41.280
um you cannot go wrong with those
0:43:37.980,0:43:43.079
submissive social sounds and just to
0:43:41.280,0:43:44.579
tell everybody exactly what those sounds
0:43:43.079,0:43:46.680
are every one of them that have
0:43:44.579,0:43:48.420
submissive in the title that's when
0:43:46.680,0:43:50.760
coyotes have come back together after
0:43:48.420,0:43:52.680
being separated and pecking order is
0:43:50.760,0:43:55.140
re-established it's usually like a
0:43:52.680,0:43:56.720
little wrestling match where one coyote
0:43:55.140,0:43:58.740
is making those submissive sounds
0:43:56.720,0:44:01.020
another one that's a little higher
0:43:58.740,0:44:02.640
ranking is probably doing a little
0:44:01.020,0:44:04.980
growling and stuff like that but it's
0:44:02.640,0:44:06.260
not a serious it's not a fight it's a
0:44:04.980,0:44:09.560
meet and greet
0:44:06.260,0:44:11.940
re-establish the beckon order type deal
0:44:09.560,0:44:13.440
and so if it's got submissive in the
0:44:11.940,0:44:15.540
title it's in the social interaction
0:44:13.440,0:44:17.880
category you can look on foxpro's
0:44:15.540,0:44:20.280
website mfk website under social
0:44:17.880,0:44:22.319
interaction sounds you will see those
0:44:20.280,0:44:24.420
sounds listed
0:44:22.319,0:44:25.859
uh if it's got submissive in the title
0:44:24.420,0:44:26.579
play it
0:44:25.859,0:44:28.920
um
0:44:26.579,0:44:30.660
and then uh what you said the fight
0:44:28.920,0:44:32.040
sounds yeah might as well tell the
0:44:30.660,0:44:34.079
fights in there with them
0:44:32.040,0:44:36.540
on the fights
0:44:34.079,0:44:38.819
of course table scraps and pound town
0:44:36.540,0:44:40.079
are always going to be they're just
0:44:38.819,0:44:43.619
always going to be in there they just
0:44:40.079,0:44:48.720
work too good and they're more
0:44:43.619,0:44:50.339
uh sub adult and an adult type fights uh
0:44:48.720,0:44:51.900
actually table scraps is perfect for
0:44:50.339,0:44:53.760
right now because that's the age class
0:44:51.900,0:44:56.819
of when that sound was recorded it's a
0:44:53.760,0:44:59.220
food fight just like the name implies uh
0:44:56.819,0:45:02.819
as far as just pecking order
0:44:59.220,0:45:04.980
tight bikes if you look at the mfk
0:45:02.819,0:45:07.319
library you'll see those sounds that
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have the ages listed behind the fights
0:45:07.319,0:45:13.560
and though they'll usually say you know
0:45:10.520,0:45:16.500
whatever Count versus another one and
0:45:13.560,0:45:18.900
those are picking order pup fights uh
0:45:16.500,0:45:22.380
some of my favorite ones bam stanky
0:45:18.900,0:45:25.380
eight weeks is a standout uh Den vicious
0:45:22.380,0:45:28.260
then vicious 2 are both standout pup
0:45:25.380,0:45:29.880
fights bad intentions is a really good
0:45:28.260,0:45:30.480
pup fight
0:45:29.880,0:45:32.760
um
0:45:30.480,0:45:35.280
you know there's and like I said before
0:45:32.760,0:45:37.020
it's hard for me to pick just two or
0:45:35.280,0:45:37.980
three sounds because usually when I'm
0:45:37.020,0:45:40.619
running
0:45:37.980,0:45:43.319
any of those categories I'm gonna play
0:45:40.619,0:45:45.420
multiple sounds from each category and
0:45:43.319,0:45:48.000
then on the next stand if I played bam
0:45:45.420,0:45:49.500
stanky on this one I'm probably not
0:45:48.000,0:45:51.599
going to play it on the next stand I'm
0:45:49.500,0:45:53.160
probably gonna play you know a different
0:45:51.599,0:45:55.140
uh
0:45:53.160,0:45:57.240
book bite right like little B versus
0:45:55.140,0:45:58.020
bougie right you know something like
0:45:57.240,0:45:58.619
that
0:45:58.020,0:46:00.660
um
0:45:58.619,0:46:02.760
so all of those when you're looking at
0:46:00.660,0:46:06.599
those categories
0:46:02.760,0:46:09.300
uh those pop fights with the age classes
0:46:06.599,0:46:10.859
mixed are going to tell you what your
0:46:09.300,0:46:12.599
your
0:46:10.859,0:46:13.980
basically you're picking order food
0:46:12.599,0:46:16.020
fight so I mean your pick and Order
0:46:13.980,0:46:17.520
fights are and then your fights that
0:46:16.020,0:46:19.260
don't have age classes with them are
0:46:17.520,0:46:22.260
going to be sub-adult which are great
0:46:19.260,0:46:22.980
for right now uh bad intentions
0:46:22.260,0:46:26.940
um
0:46:22.980,0:46:29.220
the uh table scraps stuff like that
0:46:26.940,0:46:30.800
well Tory what would be you know we're
0:46:29.220,0:46:34.859
getting getting ready to wrap it up here
0:46:30.800,0:46:36.720
what would be a good and I think you've
0:46:34.859,0:46:38.700
already give a really good one earlier
0:46:36.720,0:46:41.640
on you might touch back on it but what
0:46:38.700,0:46:43.319
would be a good coyote hunting tip that
0:46:41.640,0:46:46.079
you would like to share to everybody out
0:46:43.319,0:46:47.760
there listening for hunting fall coyotes
0:46:46.079,0:46:50.040
through October this time period we're
0:46:47.760,0:46:53.040
in right now
0:46:50.040,0:46:54.839
right now I would go right back to a
0:46:53.040,0:46:56.940
couple of things remember that your
0:46:54.839,0:46:58.020
coyotes are busted up family bust up is
0:46:56.940,0:47:01.380
taking place right now you've got
0:46:58.020,0:47:03.900
multiple coats in a small area that are
0:47:01.380,0:47:05.880
potential call-ins go heavy with your
0:47:03.900,0:47:08.339
pup long house
0:47:05.880,0:47:10.440
your pup fights those social interaction
0:47:08.339,0:47:13.440
sounds and mix two or three different
0:47:10.440,0:47:16.020
prey distress sounds in those sequences
0:47:13.440,0:47:19.319
and I think you'll call up codes and as
0:47:16.020,0:47:21.119
we get towards the end of October going
0:47:19.319,0:47:24.359
into November
0:47:21.119,0:47:26.099
if those sequences start to you should
0:47:24.359,0:47:27.780
pick up on it you should start seeing
0:47:26.099,0:47:29.760
you know what are your cows showing up
0:47:27.780,0:47:32.400
on like you talked about earlier you
0:47:29.760,0:47:34.980
know then you may add even more prey
0:47:32.400,0:47:38.099
distress in or go heavier on it but but
0:47:34.980,0:47:41.220
right now I would be
0:47:38.099,0:47:44.460
Clubhouse pup fights social interaction
0:47:41.220,0:47:47.760
sounds mix those prey distress sounds
0:47:44.460,0:47:49.859
ends sporadically in the sequence when
0:47:47.760,0:47:52.440
you call up a code whether you get it or
0:47:49.859,0:47:54.359
not keep calling that's probably one of
0:47:52.440,0:47:57.000
the one of the best tips is
0:47:54.359,0:47:59.160
if you Keel keep calling right now
0:47:57.000,0:48:02.520
because you can you can get multiple
0:47:59.160,0:48:04.560
counts uh especially because of family
0:48:02.520,0:48:06.780
bust up and you need to take advantage
0:48:04.560,0:48:09.000
of that yep that would definitely be my
0:48:06.780,0:48:12.079
number one tip right now for you guys is
0:48:09.000,0:48:14.520
keep calling on stand you know
0:48:12.079,0:48:17.160
we're calling coyotein pretty early in
0:48:14.520,0:48:18.780
the stand and we have called in some
0:48:17.160,0:48:21.839
kind of later understand we're making
0:48:18.780,0:48:24.480
about a 15 to 17 maybe 18 minutes stand
0:48:21.839,0:48:25.800
right now but if you call a coyote in on
0:48:24.480,0:48:28.500
the first two minutes
0:48:25.800,0:48:30.599
keep calling and if something happened
0:48:28.500,0:48:32.760
if you called a coyote in on the fifth
0:48:30.599,0:48:34.980
on that 15 minute mark
0:48:32.760,0:48:36.420
stretch you stand on out because there's
0:48:34.980,0:48:38.460
probably more coyotes there there's
0:48:36.420,0:48:39.900
going to be more than just one coyote
0:48:38.460,0:48:41.160
that's come out of that Thicket or out
0:48:39.900,0:48:43.380
of that hay field or how that holler
0:48:41.160,0:48:45.300
woods wherever you're hunting at keep
0:48:43.380,0:48:46.980
pouring that sound to them change sounds
0:48:45.300,0:48:48.300
up you're probably gonna end up with
0:48:46.980,0:48:51.359
multiples laying on the ground When the
0:48:48.300,0:48:54.079
Smoke Clears definitely and you guys the
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stuff we're talking about
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we ain't BS and nobody this stuff is
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working we're using it right now it's
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working you guys need to we're talking
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about following our social media pages
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also make sure you're checking out the
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mfk game calls YouTube page and the
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you're subscribed to these YouTube
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good stuff on both of them for sure to
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worry you got anything else you'd like
0:50:11.460,0:50:16.319
to add before you wrap this up
0:50:13.680,0:50:20.040
just as always appreciate everybody
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using mfk box Pro we uh there's nothing
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I've said it before say it every time
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I'm gonna keep saying it really
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that's the best part of the whole deal
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so uh just a big thank you to everybody
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that runs our stuff yep I'll chime right
0:50:40.500,0:50:44.400
in with that thanks for everybody out
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there that's that's using their products
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thing for everybody that follows along
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don't worry thank you for sharing your
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knowledge so much good stuff thank you
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for everything you do for us and a
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