The FOXPRO Podcast

Ep. 2: Predator Hunting with Corey Groff

Episode Summary

Foxpro Field Staffer Corey Groff is an excellent predator hunter with a knack for harvesting big Missouri bobcats. In this episode, he breaks down his approach to predator hunting and shares some valuable tips for bagging bobcats.

Episode Transcription

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welcome to the foxpro podcast

 

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brought to you by foxpro gamecalls

 

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hey everyone this is john collins

 

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welcome back to the fox pro podcast on

 

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this episode we're gonna be talking

 

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predator hunting with foxpro field

 

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staffer corey groff

 

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corey what's going on man

 

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not much john how you doing bud i've

 

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been doing pretty good i've seen that uh

 

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you've been coyote hunting a little bit

 

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here lately

 

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yeah yeah kind of a little unorthodox

 

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for

 

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choreographed to get out in the

 

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summertime but i've had a little bit of

 

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time

 

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this past summer to get out a little bit

 

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and kind of beat the heat you know the

 

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last few weeks now it's you know seemed

 

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like mother nature's really turned it on

 

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in the last week right yeah still

 

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i think you all supposed to have some

 

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pretty hot weather last couple days

 

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through missouri right

 

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yes sir right now let me see here we've

 

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got 101 right now and it's supposed to

 

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get

 

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103 104 towards the end of the week so

 

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it's going to be pretty pretty miserable

 

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yeah well

 

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corey tell us tell us a little bit about

 

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yourself let everyone know who corey

 

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groff is

 

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okay well i'll do the best i can uh

 

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well

 

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obviously i'm corey groff i live right

 

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here in south central missouri

 

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a little town by the name of houston

 

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and

 

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i've been here since uh let's see my

 

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folks moved up here

 

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in the late 80s

 

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my grandpa had bought a farm

 

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oh

 

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the the

 

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the family farm here

 

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back in the early 60s and

 

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and uh we moved here back in the mid 80s

 

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from south texas and

 

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and we just kind of took off from there

 

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you know with uh with the family farm

 

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and whatnot but uh anyhow i've got a

 

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beautiful wife stephanie i've got two

 

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kids

 

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uh my oldest son

 

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is braden

 

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uh he's

 

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gonna be 22 years old so that i'm kind

 

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of dating myself there

 

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and then i've got a beautiful young

 

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daughter uh her name's corey lynn 15

 

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years old

 

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and uh anyhow we just we're just a

 

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modest family living out here

 

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in the heartland of missouri right well

 

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hey

 

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sounds awesome to me sounds like picture

 

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perfect

 

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well we're we're blessed so yeah

 

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definitely and i've got to say for you

 

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know everybody out there listen you know

 

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corey ain't gonna pump himself up too

 

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much but corey is one of the premier

 

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daytime coyote bobcat callers in the

 

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world he's always piling up to coyotes

 

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but corey

 

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man your bobcat success really stands

 

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out to me and and to several others uh

 

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you know when bobcat season comes in i'm

 

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always on the lookout for cory groff

 

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posting up some bobcat pictures

 

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well

 

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you know i've always felt the same way

 

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with john collins

 

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you know i

 

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i kind of always envy them big old

 

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pretty pretty uh kentucky cats you like

 

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to shoot out that way

 

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and yeah i've had the last few years

 

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i've had a really high success rate on

 

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bobcats which we're getting a lot of

 

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bobcats

 

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you know right here in this part of the

 

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state so it's been a lot of fun and

 

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and it's something that i've kind of you

 

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know

 

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really dialed in on

 

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and kind of fine-tuned some of that and

 

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i don't know it's probably

 

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it's probably 90 percent luck you know

 

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i'll take it however i can get it i love

 

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luck well let's talk about bobcat uh

 

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bobcat calling a little bit corey uh you

 

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do any kind of scouting for bobcats at

 

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all

 

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uh you know i do uh

 

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especially you know like

 

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early deer season you know it seems like

 

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you know you're out and about a lot more

 

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that time of year

 

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so i'm all the time looking at the

 

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ground right that's one of my favorite

 

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things to do

 

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even when i'm in and out on on gravel

 

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roads you know

 

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i'm all the time looking for scat

 

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whether it's coyote bobcat tracks you

 

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know whatever right uh

 

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but i always make that middle note when

 

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i see a see a bobcat track you know and

 

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i always try to size it up you know that

 

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looks like a that looks like a good paw

 

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print right there on that cat you know

 

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and then

 

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then my mind's wondering well i got a

 

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big tom in here or what do i got you

 

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know

 

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but i'm yes sir i always try to you know

 

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make that mental note of something i see

 

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but i don't really typically just go out

 

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looking for a bobcat sign it just

 

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happens i stumble upon it which

 

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you know i probably like a lot of

 

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guys like yourself you know

 

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when you're out and about you just pay

 

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attention to those things sometimes

 

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right not not necessarily going out on a

 

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on a bobcat scouting mission but

 

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whenever you are out or out you're uh

 

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actively always looking for a sign so to

 

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speak exactly yes sir

 

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and he was talking about sizing up paw

 

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prints to see you know maybe you have a

 

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big tom or whatever you do have a knack

 

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of killing some great big old cats seem

 

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like every year you get at least one

 

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decent sized cat

 

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yeah yeah uh this last year i really

 

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didn't kill a really good one like i'd

 

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like i would want to

 

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uh but the year before that i killed

 

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probably around 30 pound cat you know

 

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which it seems like they don't want

 

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which is a monster

 

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it is it's pretty good-sized cat

 

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especially in this area our cats are

 

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usually

 

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long and lanky and they usually don't

 

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get no girth to them

 

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uh so killing that cat with a little bit

 

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of girth on it that's kind of where i

 

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really that's what i like right right

 

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what's the what's the biggest bobcat

 

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you've ever killed you've mentioned a 30

 

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pound or you've killed anything bigger

 

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than a 30 pounder

 

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i have oh

 

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oh gosh it's probably been

 

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let's see this is almost 23 so it had to

 

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been around 2012 or 13.

 

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i killed a 36 pound bobcat my goodness

 

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yes sir and uh i still have a small

 

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video clip of that cat coming in

 

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somewhere and i need to dig that out and

 

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see if i can't find it but

 

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yeah that that was my biggest cat thus

 

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far

 

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and uh

 

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the big old male just had

 

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you know a lot of girth to his belly way

 

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back you know like in his in his uh

 

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haunches there you know he had a lot of

 

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growth back in there

 

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and so you could tell he was an old cat

 

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and i'm very proud of that one sure

 

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how many how many cats are you guys

 

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allowed in missouri

 

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well

 

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we don't actually have a limit here in

 

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missouri oh man you love a dog

 

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yeah we've been pretty lucky on that end

 

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and uh we actually got a little bit

 

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luckier this next coming season uh

 

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it's been i don't know the exact date

 

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john but it's been several years back

 

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they

 

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they kind of flipped you know our our

 

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cat seasons around

 

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and uh but typically here in the last

 

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few years we've been november 15th

 

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and it runs through

 

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january 31st and that's

 

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that goes along with our trapping season

 

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and uh so in that a lot of time we can

 

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kill or trap as many bobcats as we want

 

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so

 

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yeah it's been it's been pretty nice we

 

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don't have to work on a quota we've got

 

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a lot of bobcats you know and that is

 

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the reason why we've got the season

 

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we've got obviously i like to i like the

 

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sound of that don't have to buy any tags

 

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or anything like that just you know

 

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there's

 

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there's nothing special uh you can hunt

 

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bobcat here

 

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in missouri with the same

 

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you know small game hunting permit uh

 

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you know like you would for a coyote but

 

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the only stipulation that

 

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missouri does have and of course they go

 

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along with the rest of the country on

 

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that is if you're you know if you're

 

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going to sell your cat or have it

 

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uh mounted get somebody's tag yeah yeah

 

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it needs to have some type of permit or

 

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a tag on it yeah yeah

 

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well what what does a typical i'm going

 

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to get into the good stuff here what

 

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everybody's wanting to hear

 

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what does what does a typical bobcat

 

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stand look like for you corey give us an

 

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example of how you know how you like to

 

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set up and your

 

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your sound sequence or general idea of

 

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it and hold on a second get my ink pen i

 

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say a slide i talked to i talked to

 

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abner the other day and and talked to al

 

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a week or so ago you know i'm making

 

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sure i'm taking plenty of notes learning

 

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from you guys

 

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[Laughter]

 

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did they grab a pen and paper too

 

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because i know they can learn a lot from

 

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you as well oh you know big al he don't

 

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need to learn nothing from nobody

 

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but uh oh let's see well i guess we'll

 

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start off with uh

 

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maybe you know what i'm looking at in a

 

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bobcat stand

 

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uh

 

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so what i'm looking for in a bobcat

 

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stand is is

 

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of course i always like to be elevated

 

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and here in my part of the state it's

 

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not hard to do there's a lot of hills

 

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and hollers

 

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cow pastures and whatnot but we also

 

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have

 

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a lot of cedar glades a lot of ridges

 

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uh a lot of brushy patches and that

 

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that's prime that's what i'm looking for

 

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i'm looking for that

 

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standard buck brush or buyer patch

 

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or

 

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cedar ridge that you know

 

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that's got a lot of cover to it

 

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but i'm also looking for

 

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a good water source because

 

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a bobcat as much as cats we know don't

 

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you know dislike water a bomb cat's got

 

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to have it and

 

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with that being said you know my mind

 

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is telling me that

 

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you know bobcats are using that water

 

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source not only to hydrate themselves

 

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but they're using it to ambush they're

 

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using it to ambush their prey

 

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and uh so that's what i'm looking for

 

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when i'm

 

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you know

 

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looking at a bobcat stand and it

 

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and i you know i stumble along

 

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early in the season

 

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i do try to target some bobcats

 

0:10:30.240,0:10:33.040

especially if i

 

0:10:31.360,0:10:34.320

made that mental note where i've seen

 

0:10:33.040,0:10:36.560

some scat

 

0:10:34.320,0:10:39.440

or where i've seen you know some call

 

0:10:36.560,0:10:40.640

tracks or whatnot but

 

0:10:39.440,0:10:42.399

later

 

0:10:40.640,0:10:44.720

you know after about the first of the

 

0:10:42.399,0:10:45.760

year my kind of focus more on coyote

 

0:10:44.720,0:10:47.839

hunting

 

0:10:45.760,0:10:50.000

and then i just kind of stumble upon you

 

0:10:47.839,0:10:52.240

know a lot of the cats that i do take at

 

0:10:50.000,0:10:54.240

that time right but it's usually on you

 

0:10:52.240,0:10:55.839

know your prey distress sounds obviously

 

0:10:54.240,0:10:57.200

right but uh

 

0:10:55.839,0:10:59.519

and then if you want to get into some of

 

0:10:57.200,0:11:00.480

that you know just as well as i do man

 

0:10:59.519,0:11:02.399

we've got

 

0:11:00.480,0:11:05.200

you know as far as fox pro goes we got

 

0:11:02.399,0:11:08.320

some of the best sounds in the world

 

0:11:05.200,0:11:10.880

for bobcats i mean man the the rat the

 

0:11:08.320,0:11:13.760

rabbit you know our prey distress as far

 

0:11:10.880,0:11:18.079

as rabbit sounds go especially in in my

 

0:11:13.760,0:11:21.279

eyes in my mind it's i mean close

 

0:11:18.079,0:11:23.519

no no there i i don't know of any

 

0:11:21.279,0:11:25.040

library out there

 

0:11:23.519,0:11:27.360

that could

 

0:11:25.040,0:11:29.200

touch it and i and i know we're probably

 

0:11:27.360,0:11:31.360

a little bit biased but

 

0:11:29.200,0:11:34.079

it's the god's honest truth that that is

 

0:11:31.360,0:11:37.200

the truth there's not a better

 

0:11:34.079,0:11:39.279

library for bobcats as far as

 

0:11:37.200,0:11:41.200

rabbit goes on the planet

 

0:11:39.279,0:11:42.640

i mean i've i've told people this

 

0:11:41.200,0:11:44.880

multiple times and i always tell them

 

0:11:42.640,0:11:47.040

don't take this the wrong way and don't

 

0:11:44.880,0:11:49.279

get mad when i say this

 

0:11:47.040,0:11:51.680

but if you cannot find

 

0:11:49.279,0:11:53.519

a handful of rabbit sounds that work for

 

0:11:51.680,0:11:55.760

you from foxpro

 

0:11:53.519,0:11:57.760

it's not the sounds

 

0:11:55.760,0:12:00.880

it's something else going wrong it isn't

 

0:11:57.760,0:12:03.519

trust me it is not the sounds

 

0:12:00.880,0:12:04.399

i agree with that i i highly agree with

 

0:12:03.519,0:12:05.600

that

 

0:12:04.399,0:12:07.519

you know

 

0:12:05.600,0:12:10.639

some of my quest for being a better

 

0:12:07.519,0:12:12.079

bobcat under way back you know and i

 

0:12:10.639,0:12:14.720

think you and i talked about this a

 

0:12:12.079,0:12:16.959

little bit in the past i was i i really

 

0:12:14.720,0:12:19.440

got hooked on you know the snowshoe

 

0:12:16.959,0:12:21.279

sounds yes and uh

 

0:12:19.440,0:12:22.800

you know and i really like them but i

 

0:12:21.279,0:12:26.000

was kind of in that

 

0:12:22.800,0:12:28.399

you know i was kind of in that where

 

0:12:26.000,0:12:30.320

i'm just stumbling upon bobcats with

 

0:12:28.399,0:12:34.240

with that you know sound i was really

 

0:12:30.320,0:12:36.959

targeting more the coyote side of things

 

0:12:34.240,0:12:39.680

and then i really kind of leaned towards

 

0:12:36.959,0:12:40.560

now where i've really kind of fine-tuned

 

0:12:39.680,0:12:42.639

what

 

0:12:40.560,0:12:44.959

what my ears

 

0:12:42.639,0:12:47.680

feel like i should be calling with and

 

0:12:44.959,0:12:51.200

that's obviously your cagey cottontail

 

0:12:47.680,0:12:54.240

your mrs nick cottontail but

 

0:12:51.200,0:12:56.720

man i i really love the baby baby

 

0:12:54.240,0:12:58.959

cottontails the the baby

 

0:12:56.720,0:13:02.720

the b-a-y-b-e-e

 

0:12:58.959,0:13:05.440

is one of my favorite all-time sounds

 

0:13:02.720,0:13:07.279

but man i always find myself

 

0:13:05.440,0:13:10.560

hitting my preset on that cagey

 

0:13:07.279,0:13:12.399

cottontail oh man well let's talk to

 

0:13:10.560,0:13:14.800

abner you know one of his favorite

 

0:13:12.399,0:13:16.320

sounds is baby cottontail and he'll tell

 

0:13:14.800,0:13:18.639

you if you know if he only has a handful

 

0:13:16.320,0:13:20.639

of sounds he's going to make sure baby

 

0:13:18.639,0:13:23.200

cocktail's one of them

 

0:13:20.639,0:13:25.040

but you know when it comes to to bobcats

 

0:13:23.200,0:13:27.360

i think me and you probably call pretty

 

0:13:25.040,0:13:29.120

similar and i mean you've talked about

 

0:13:27.360,0:13:31.120

this in the past message and back and

 

0:13:29.120,0:13:32.880

forth

 

0:13:31.120,0:13:35.360

my opinion

 

0:13:32.880,0:13:38.000

is kg cottontail

 

0:13:35.360,0:13:41.760

and mrs mccottentail which is a newer

 

0:13:38.000,0:13:46.399

sound is probably the two best

 

0:13:41.760,0:13:48.639

bobcat calling sounds ever recorded

 

0:13:46.399,0:13:51.639

i i absolutely have to agree with that

 

0:13:48.639,0:13:54.800

and if you use those two sounds

 

0:13:51.639,0:13:57.040

simultaneously on a stan on a stand

 

0:13:54.800,0:14:00.320

and your success is going to go up i i

 

0:13:57.040,0:14:02.639

really do believe that yeah i mean if if

 

0:14:00.320,0:14:04.240

i i'm usually leading a lot of times you

 

0:14:02.639,0:14:06.880

know usually i used to always lead with

 

0:14:04.240,0:14:08.720

baby cottontail and um over the last

 

0:14:06.880,0:14:09.600

couple years i'm either i've got to

 

0:14:08.720,0:14:11.680

where

 

0:14:09.600,0:14:14.720

i just kind of leave that as my last

 

0:14:11.680,0:14:16.720

resort sound almost like a coaxer sound

 

0:14:14.720,0:14:19.199

but i've been starting out with either

 

0:14:16.720,0:14:20.959

kg or mrs mccotton tail and and

 

0:14:19.199,0:14:22.639

whichever one i run first is just

 

0:14:20.959,0:14:24.959

whatever i'm feeling at the time but it

 

0:14:22.639,0:14:26.399

almost seems like if there's a cat there

 

0:14:24.959,0:14:28.639

if they don't show up to that first

 

0:14:26.399,0:14:30.560

sound whether it be kg or mrs mc

 

0:14:28.639,0:14:33.279

cottontail when you start playing that

 

0:14:30.560,0:14:35.040

second sound whichever one it is cagey

 

0:14:33.279,0:14:36.880

or they're they're coming they're there

 

0:14:35.040,0:14:38.959

they show up to one of those two sounds

 

0:14:36.880,0:14:41.600

every single time almost

 

0:14:38.959,0:14:43.440

yeah it's like if you break that rhythm

 

0:14:41.600,0:14:45.440

you know whatever's got them hung up a

 

0:14:43.440,0:14:47.519

little bit if you break that rhythm

 

0:14:45.440,0:14:50.480

throw it to the next sound it just seems

 

0:14:47.519,0:14:52.160

like it's just instant you know right

 

0:14:50.480,0:14:53.440

and uh

 

0:14:52.160,0:14:55.839

yeah it's just the man there ain't

 

0:14:53.440,0:14:57.600

nothing better watching my bobcats

 

0:14:55.839,0:15:00.079

goodness you telling the truth right

 

0:14:57.600,0:15:02.079

there and and and to kind of touch a

 

0:15:00.079,0:15:03.760

little bit on what corey just said there

 

0:15:02.079,0:15:05.680

and i've noticed this over the years and

 

0:15:03.760,0:15:07.519

i think me and corey has probably talked

 

0:15:05.680,0:15:08.880

about this before just messaging back

 

0:15:07.519,0:15:11.680

and forth but

 

0:15:08.880,0:15:14.000

like myself i usually will run

 

0:15:11.680,0:15:16.320

you know three to four five sometimes

 

0:15:14.000,0:15:18.560

different distress sounds on what i

 

0:15:16.320,0:15:21.040

think is a bobcat stand where i think

 

0:15:18.560,0:15:22.399

there's going to be a bobcat and

 

0:15:21.040,0:15:24.000

usually i'm running those sounds for

 

0:15:22.399,0:15:26.160

anywhere from four to six minutes a

 

0:15:24.000,0:15:27.760

piece and just like what corey just said

 

0:15:26.160,0:15:29.519

right there i might run that first sound

 

0:15:27.760,0:15:31.920

for four to six minutes

 

0:15:29.519,0:15:34.320

and and not see nothing and what i'll do

 

0:15:31.920,0:15:36.160

is i'll pause for just like 20 to 40

 

0:15:34.320,0:15:38.480

seconds you know under a minute

 

0:15:36.160,0:15:41.680

as soon as i start start that second

 

0:15:38.480,0:15:43.199

sound up those it just seems like it

 

0:15:41.680,0:15:45.199

triggers something it's almost like that

 

0:15:43.199,0:15:48.079

paw like they were coming to that first

 

0:15:45.199,0:15:49.120

sound and either slowed up or stopped

 

0:15:48.079,0:15:51.360

out there where you couldn't see them or

 

0:15:49.120,0:15:52.320

whatever and then that sound pauses or

 

0:15:51.360,0:15:54.720

leaves

 

0:15:52.320,0:15:57.120

and they start to feel a sense of

 

0:15:54.720,0:15:59.199

urgency like they've lost that sound as

 

0:15:57.120,0:16:00.800

soon as that second sound starts up and

 

0:15:59.199,0:16:02.639

it's a different rhythm

 

0:16:00.800,0:16:04.320

a different pitch they come running in

 

0:16:02.639,0:16:06.000

just like a coyote

 

0:16:04.320,0:16:09.040

yeah that's absolutely right and i

 

0:16:06.000,0:16:12.000

definitely agree with that and it and i

 

0:16:09.040,0:16:14.639

think when you make that pause

 

0:16:12.000,0:16:16.399

it's just just me but i think just you

 

0:16:14.639,0:16:18.320

know you did say it there

 

0:16:16.399,0:16:20.320

i think they they think the sound's gone

 

0:16:18.320,0:16:22.000

away from them or or something has

 

0:16:20.320,0:16:24.240

happened you know they've they've got

 

0:16:22.000,0:16:26.399

that meal taken out from underneath them

 

0:16:24.240,0:16:28.240

and they want to figure out why

 

0:16:26.399,0:16:29.839

you know and

 

0:16:28.240,0:16:31.759

so i think that's you know that

 

0:16:29.839,0:16:34.399

transition from one sound to the next

 

0:16:31.759,0:16:35.199

and giving it a good pause is is very

 

0:16:34.399,0:16:37.519

key

 

0:16:35.199,0:16:39.040

yep but uh now john let me ask you a

 

0:16:37.519,0:16:41.040

question and i don't know if we've ever

 

0:16:39.040,0:16:42.959

talked about it hey you listen here

 

0:16:41.040,0:16:45.759

buddy i'm the one doing the interview i

 

0:16:42.959,0:16:45.759

asked a question

 

0:16:46.160,0:16:48.720

let's hear it

 

0:16:47.920,0:16:51.680

well

 

0:16:48.720,0:16:53.279

you know i typically you know

 

0:16:51.680,0:16:55.199

my volume runs

 

0:16:53.279,0:16:58.880

you know right there around

 

0:16:55.199,0:17:02.399

18 20 to 22 on a bobcat

 

0:16:58.880,0:17:04.480

stand yep but uh you know if i

 

0:17:02.399,0:17:06.160

if i've got a bobcat that's coming you

 

0:17:04.480,0:17:08.240

know they're pretty sensitive to sound

 

0:17:06.160,0:17:10.079

i'll i'll just go ahead and i'll run

 

0:17:08.240,0:17:12.880

that sound way down there you know get

 

0:17:10.079,0:17:15.039

it down sometimes below 10. yeah and it

 

0:17:12.880,0:17:16.880

just really seems like if you're trying

 

0:17:15.039,0:17:18.720

to take that sound away from them like

 

0:17:16.880,0:17:21.760

we was just talking that

 

0:17:18.720,0:17:25.760

it really you know expresses them to

 

0:17:21.760,0:17:25.760

make a move even even more right

 

0:17:25.839,0:17:30.000

so so is is the question asking me if i

 

0:17:28.720,0:17:32.880

do that

 

0:17:30.000,0:17:34.240

do you do that yes sir well i'll tell

 

0:17:32.880,0:17:35.120

you what um

 

0:17:34.240,0:17:37.280

usually

 

0:17:35.120,0:17:40.080

i you know when i when bobcat season

 

0:17:37.280,0:17:42.960

comes in my presets and my remote change

 

0:17:40.080,0:17:45.039

uh usually i'm pretty vocal heavy uh

 

0:17:42.960,0:17:47.120

until you know

 

0:17:45.039,0:17:49.200

winter you know my our season comes in

 

0:17:47.120,0:17:51.120

the same time pretty much it's like uh

 

0:17:49.200,0:17:53.520

the saturday after thanksgiving whatever

 

0:17:51.120,0:17:55.919

so about that time i'm starting to put

 

0:17:53.520,0:17:57.840

rabbit sounds in my presets because i'm

 

0:17:55.919,0:18:00.880

going after bobcats you know i wanna i

 

0:17:57.840,0:18:02.960

wanna kill and call bobcats so

 

0:18:00.880,0:18:06.320

i'll usually set my presets for my

 

0:18:02.960,0:18:09.440

rabbit sounds around 16 to 18. you know

 

0:18:06.320,0:18:11.120

that's my starting point uh and yes i'll

 

0:18:09.440,0:18:13.600

start there and i'm just constant i

 

0:18:11.120,0:18:15.919

shouldn't say constantly but just every

 

0:18:13.600,0:18:19.679

few seconds i'm moving my sound whether

 

0:18:15.919,0:18:22.320

it's up or down and yes i will get

 

0:18:19.679,0:18:24.320

light i probably don't go ever go below

 

0:18:22.320,0:18:28.559

10 but i will crank it all the way down

 

0:18:24.320,0:18:31.360

to round 10 9 10 11 somewhere in there

 

0:18:28.559,0:18:33.760

but i'll actually get pretty loud too at

 

0:18:31.360,0:18:35.440

times i'll ramp it back up to around

 

0:18:33.760,0:18:37.600

that 20 mark 50

 

0:18:35.440,0:18:39.039

volume and then i'll eventually get up

 

0:18:37.600,0:18:42.160

close to you know like three quarters

 

0:18:39.039,0:18:43.919

i'll let it go 28 30 32 but i don't

 

0:18:42.160,0:18:46.320

leave it there forever and i'll dial it

 

0:18:43.919,0:18:48.400

right back down around that 50 mark but

 

0:18:46.320,0:18:49.520

you're right i have seen a lot of times

 

0:18:48.400,0:18:52.160

when i

 

0:18:49.520,0:18:54.720

dial it back down to that to that

 

0:18:52.160,0:18:56.240

lighter sound you know around 10

 

0:18:54.720,0:18:58.720

that's when you see those coyotes come

 

0:18:56.240,0:19:00.640

and when or not coyotes but bobcats come

 

0:18:58.720,0:19:03.120

and like what i said earlier it seems

 

0:19:00.640,0:19:05.200

like when they do show up to win

 

0:19:03.120,0:19:07.760

uh either right after a pause and you

 

0:19:05.200,0:19:10.160

start to sound back up or when they show

 

0:19:07.760,0:19:12.400

up to uh the volume getting low they're

 

0:19:10.160,0:19:14.640

running in they're not sneaking and

 

0:19:12.400,0:19:16.480

belly crawling like uh it's kind of the

 

0:19:14.640,0:19:17.919

norm or what everybody talks about

 

0:19:16.480,0:19:19.600

they're running in like a coyote because

 

0:19:17.919,0:19:21.679

they're afraid they've lost that sound

 

0:19:19.600,0:19:23.679

or fixing to lose that sound and when i

 

0:19:21.679,0:19:26.080

say lose that sound they're thinking

 

0:19:23.679,0:19:26.960

they're fixing to lose that rabbit

 

0:19:26.080,0:19:28.320

right

 

0:19:26.960,0:19:30.400

yep

 

0:19:28.320,0:19:31.840

yeah that chicken hawk or that kind of

 

0:19:30.400,0:19:33.360

that's got that rabbit what they're

 

0:19:31.840,0:19:34.640

thinking in their minds probably you

 

0:19:33.360,0:19:36.320

know that's what they're thinking that's

 

0:19:34.640,0:19:38.480

getting away from them

 

0:19:36.320,0:19:40.799

and it just seems like it just triggers

 

0:19:38.480,0:19:42.559

a different response right right you

 

0:19:40.799,0:19:44.480

know i don't i don't hunt with a lot of

 

0:19:42.559,0:19:46.080

different hunters so so you know a lot

 

0:19:44.480,0:19:48.160

of this stuff you know just like

 

0:19:46.080,0:19:50.240

yourself i'm sure you know a lot of this

 

0:19:48.160,0:19:51.840

stuff we just learned on our own exactly

 

0:19:50.240,0:19:53.600

yes

 

0:19:51.840,0:19:55.280

you know so we're trying you know we try

 

0:19:53.600,0:19:57.200

to find a tune at the best we can but

 

0:19:55.280,0:20:00.160

it's nice to you know have these

 

0:19:57.200,0:20:01.679

conversations and and be able to

 

0:20:00.160,0:20:03.360

see what the other guys are doing it

 

0:20:01.679,0:20:04.720

looks to me like we're

 

0:20:03.360,0:20:07.120

right there with each other and that

 

0:20:04.720,0:20:09.280

makes me feel pretty good right well i i

 

0:20:07.120,0:20:12.159

think when it comes to successful what i

 

0:20:09.280,0:20:13.200

call successful coyote bobcat callers i

 

0:20:12.159,0:20:14.880

think

 

0:20:13.200,0:20:16.799

once people do get to talking with each

 

0:20:14.880,0:20:19.120

other once they do hunt with each other

 

0:20:16.799,0:20:21.039

they find out uh you know like i'm

 

0:20:19.120,0:20:22.640

saying if they're successful they find

 

0:20:21.039,0:20:24.880

out that their calling styles are pretty

 

0:20:22.640,0:20:26.640

similar uh yeah and a lot of and how

 

0:20:24.880,0:20:28.400

they set stands up are pretty similar

 

0:20:26.640,0:20:30.240

but i'm gonna go with t cory you ain't

 

0:20:28.400,0:20:31.679

gonna hide for me much longer we're

 

0:20:30.240,0:20:33.520

gonna be hunting together this fall or

 

0:20:31.679,0:20:34.880

winter i'm gonna tell you

 

0:20:33.520,0:20:36.480

i don't care what you say i'll just show

 

0:20:34.880,0:20:38.960

up in houston missouri knocking on your

 

0:20:36.480,0:20:40.640

door i know where you live

 

0:20:38.960,0:20:42.640

yeah i'd say you probably do you've been

 

0:20:40.640,0:20:44.400

by here a million times you just don't

 

0:20:42.640,0:20:46.559

stop yeah

 

0:20:44.400,0:20:48.559

well hey tell us about uh what about

 

0:20:46.559,0:20:50.480

running a decoy i know you like to run a

 

0:20:48.559,0:20:52.000

decoy from time to time on your bobcat

 

0:20:50.480,0:20:54.080

stands don't you

 

0:20:52.000,0:20:55.120

yes sir i do uh

 

0:20:54.080,0:20:56.320

and

 

0:20:55.120,0:20:59.520

you know

 

0:20:56.320,0:21:01.520

this new x decoy that was that fox pro

 

0:20:59.520,0:21:03.760

put out with the uh

 

0:21:01.520,0:21:07.039

you know with the xd speaker system on

 

0:21:03.760,0:21:08.720

the uh the x24s and the x2s

 

0:21:07.039,0:21:10.159

man that thing's pretty cool i really

 

0:21:08.720,0:21:13.360

like it i like it

 

0:21:10.159,0:21:16.720

uh a lot better than some of the other

 

0:21:13.360,0:21:18.400

uh call mounted uh decoys that they've

 

0:21:16.720,0:21:19.440

had in the past and well they currently

 

0:21:18.400,0:21:22.880

still do

 

0:21:19.440,0:21:24.960

but uh yes i love running a decoy on a

 

0:21:22.880,0:21:26.080

bobcat you know it really grabs their

 

0:21:24.960,0:21:28.400

attention

 

0:21:26.080,0:21:29.360

uh gives them something to look at and

 

0:21:28.400,0:21:32.400

uh

 

0:21:29.360,0:21:34.559

i'm not so much real crazy about using

 

0:21:32.400,0:21:36.480

one for coyote stands but

 

0:21:34.559,0:21:40.559

you know that time frame from that

 

0:21:36.480,0:21:43.840

november 30 or 15 to january 31st i've

 

0:21:40.559,0:21:47.919

always got a bobcat on my or excuse me a

 

0:21:43.840,0:21:49.919

decoy on my on my stand right right

 

0:21:47.919,0:21:52.080

good stuff yeah

 

0:21:49.919,0:21:54.799

i'm curious i'm curious to check out

 

0:21:52.080,0:21:56.720

that new blue bird that uh fox pro

 

0:21:54.799,0:21:58.400

topper i know uh

 

0:21:56.720,0:22:00.960

i know the guys out west have been i

 

0:21:58.400,0:22:02.640

haven't ran it yet uh but i know uh the

 

0:22:00.960,0:22:05.039

guys out west have been using you know

 

0:22:02.640,0:22:07.840

hal uses it a lot uh our buddy richie

 

0:22:05.039,0:22:09.679

gonzalez runs it and they've been seeing

 

0:22:07.840,0:22:12.080

great responses with it you know just

 

0:22:09.679,0:22:13.679

coyotes just tackling the thing so i

 

0:22:12.080,0:22:16.159

think it'd be pretty good for cat i'd

 

0:22:13.679,0:22:18.240

say it'd catch her eyes really well

 

0:22:16.159,0:22:20.159

oh absolutely

 

0:22:18.240,0:22:21.520

let's let's move on to coyotes i know

 

0:22:20.159,0:22:22.880

you're you know you're an excellent

 

0:22:21.520,0:22:24.799

coyote caller you know we're talking

 

0:22:22.880,0:22:26.720

about that a little bit and uh

 

0:22:24.799,0:22:28.799

are you a hunter that uh

 

0:22:26.720,0:22:30.320

likes to call coyotes year round i know

 

0:22:28.799,0:22:32.240

you're kind of slack off a little bit in

 

0:22:30.320,0:22:34.159

the summer but i've noticed you've uh

 

0:22:32.240,0:22:35.919

you've killed a killed a few here as of

 

0:22:34.159,0:22:39.120

late

 

0:22:35.919,0:22:42.799

yes sir i i do like to coyote hunt

 

0:22:39.120,0:22:44.080

year-round if i get the opportunities uh

 

0:22:42.799,0:22:46.320

you know i don't really have nothing

 

0:22:44.080,0:22:49.520

against summertime coyote hunting

 

0:22:46.320,0:22:51.200

uh at all uh i don't really care for the

 

0:22:49.520,0:22:54.480

ticks and the tiggers on the heat my

 

0:22:51.200,0:22:56.799

gosh who does

 

0:22:54.480,0:22:58.720

but uh you know

 

0:22:56.799,0:23:00.960

you know we like to do other things and

 

0:22:58.720,0:23:02.159

i kind of like to break it up you know i

 

0:23:00.960,0:23:04.559

like to spend a little bit more time

 

0:23:02.159,0:23:06.400

with family this time of year yeah but

 

0:23:04.559,0:23:09.039

and it's hard to it's hard to beat them

 

0:23:06.400,0:23:10.400

cool mornings you know uh

 

0:23:09.039,0:23:12.400

this time of year in a fresh cut

 

0:23:10.400,0:23:15.120

hayfield but uh

 

0:23:12.400,0:23:18.080

yeah i i really like the call year round

 

0:23:15.120,0:23:20.080

uh i really get started back up

 

0:23:18.080,0:23:22.799

actual coyote hunting

 

0:23:20.080,0:23:24.880

oh usually around october you know and

 

0:23:22.799,0:23:26.960

then of course i'm gonna chase a buck

 

0:23:24.880,0:23:29.039

seems like every year about them too

 

0:23:26.960,0:23:31.039

yeah sure but uh

 

0:23:29.039,0:23:32.880

yeah i'm just about your typical coyote

 

0:23:31.039,0:23:35.600

hunter i guess as far as that goes you

 

0:23:32.880,0:23:37.520

know hunt from november to march and

 

0:23:35.600,0:23:39.120

then do a little bit of their during the

 

0:23:37.520,0:23:40.880

summer time so

 

0:23:39.120,0:23:42.960

so what do you consider your favorite

 

0:23:40.880,0:23:44.640

time period to call coyotes at that

 

0:23:42.960,0:23:46.480

november through

 

0:23:44.640,0:23:48.880

march or

 

0:23:46.480,0:23:49.760

december's probably my favorite month i

 

0:23:48.880,0:23:52.240

just

 

0:23:49.760,0:23:54.799

you know i i really like those cold

 

0:23:52.240,0:23:57.039

frosty mornings uh

 

0:23:54.799,0:23:59.279

you know i like that that time of year

 

0:23:57.039,0:24:01.039

you know you you got uh

 

0:23:59.279,0:24:03.919

coyotes are really starting to wool up

 

0:24:01.039,0:24:06.000

they they respond really well to a call

 

0:24:03.919,0:24:06.960

seems like that time of year

 

0:24:06.000,0:24:09.120

uh

 

0:24:06.960,0:24:10.720

it just i just like that big woolly part

 

0:24:09.120,0:24:13.200

of the coyote and that just some cold

 

0:24:10.720,0:24:15.279

mornings you know i'm i'm right there

 

0:24:13.200,0:24:17.840

with you december's probably

 

0:24:15.279,0:24:21.120

from december 1st through the first two

 

0:24:17.840,0:24:23.120

weeks of january is probably my absolute

 

0:24:21.120,0:24:25.919

favorite times and for a lot what you

 

0:24:23.120,0:24:28.080

just said uh i love a big old fluffy

 

0:24:25.919,0:24:30.240

coyote you know oh yeah these they're

 

0:24:28.080,0:24:32.159

these summertime coyotes are fun they

 

0:24:30.240,0:24:34.960

come hard and you know they're a lot of

 

0:24:32.159,0:24:36.799

fun but they ugly as can be and full of

 

0:24:34.960,0:24:38.640

ticks and there's just a world of

 

0:24:36.799,0:24:40.960

difference how they look from now to

 

0:24:38.640,0:24:42.480

december and and you you kind of toast

 

0:24:40.960,0:24:44.240

ontario about how good they come to the

 

0:24:42.480,0:24:46.159

call you know you're they're coming to

 

0:24:44.240,0:24:47.360

prey distress sounds really well you

 

0:24:46.159,0:24:49.120

know you can switch from that prey

 

0:24:47.360,0:24:51.120

distressed stuff over to some coyote

 

0:24:49.120,0:24:53.440

fight stuff towards the end of the stand

 

0:24:51.120,0:24:54.720

and it kind of like they uh kick in the

 

0:24:53.440,0:24:57.039

gear for cause it's kind of almost like

 

0:24:54.720,0:24:58.559

a pre-rut season for them as well yeah

 

0:24:57.039,0:25:00.559

so it's like if they don't show up to

 

0:24:58.559,0:25:02.159

the rabbits or birds they'll show up to

 

0:25:00.559,0:25:03.919

the coyote vocal stuff and man we just

 

0:25:02.159,0:25:05.440

pile up a lot of coyotes in december

 

0:25:03.919,0:25:06.960

it's just a fun time to be out there

 

0:25:05.440,0:25:08.960

calling coyotes

 

0:25:06.960,0:25:10.320

yeah it's one of my favorite times for

 

0:25:08.960,0:25:12.720

sure

 

0:25:10.320,0:25:16.080

well i've still got my i do have my ink

 

0:25:12.720,0:25:17.760

pen and and pad of paper here uh we're

 

0:25:16.080,0:25:20.159

gonna dive deep i've got you right on

 

0:25:17.760,0:25:21.440

the spot i've got you right where i want

 

0:25:20.159,0:25:24.080

you corey

 

0:25:21.440,0:25:26.640

tell us tell us some of your secrets

 

0:25:24.080,0:25:28.640

i want what type of sounds do you like

 

0:25:26.640,0:25:30.559

to run in the summer months like if you

 

0:25:28.640,0:25:32.080

gonna go hunting tomorrow morning

 

0:25:30.559,0:25:34.000

and just for you guys know this is the

 

0:25:32.080,0:25:35.600

end of end of july so we're still in the

 

0:25:34.000,0:25:38.240

summertime mode

 

0:25:35.600,0:25:40.799

what type of sounds would you run

 

0:25:38.240,0:25:43.600

tomorrow morning

 

0:25:40.799,0:25:44.400

well tomorrow morning let's see

 

0:25:43.600,0:25:46.559

i mean

 

0:25:44.400,0:25:48.640

i'm i'm typically a vocal kind of guy

 

0:25:46.559,0:25:50.320

this time of year uh

 

0:25:48.640,0:25:52.000

i will run some

 

0:25:50.320,0:25:53.279

some prey distress sounds but it's

 

0:25:52.000,0:25:56.320

usually

 

0:25:53.279,0:25:59.039

going to be a fawn or a baby goat those

 

0:25:56.320,0:26:00.880

those are probably the only two sounds

 

0:25:59.039,0:26:03.679

that i'm going to run tomorrow morning

 

0:26:00.880,0:26:04.960

if i go hunting you know as far as

 

0:26:03.679,0:26:07.360

the prey

 

0:26:04.960,0:26:09.120

sounds yes yes

 

0:26:07.360,0:26:12.720

and uh

 

0:26:09.120,0:26:14.240

man i you know the female thor house any

 

0:26:12.720,0:26:17.120

any kind of

 

0:26:14.240,0:26:19.760

any kind of long female howl yep i will

 

0:26:17.120,0:26:21.440

definitely probably start my stand out

 

0:26:19.760,0:26:22.880

with you know

 

0:26:21.440,0:26:25.679

and then i'm gonna

 

0:26:22.880,0:26:26.960

give that a break and uh just gonna sit

 

0:26:25.679,0:26:30.320

there and

 

0:26:26.960,0:26:32.240

you know watch my fence throws and

 

0:26:30.320,0:26:34.880

and see if i can catch any movement for

 

0:26:32.240,0:26:38.320

about you know three four five minutes

 

0:26:34.880,0:26:40.000

and then maybe i'll decide to play that

 

0:26:38.320,0:26:42.400

falling distress down if i feel like

 

0:26:40.000,0:26:44.159

i've got a lot of deer in that area i'll

 

0:26:42.400,0:26:45.039

go ahead and play those sounds just to

 

0:26:44.159,0:26:46.960

kind of

 

0:26:45.039,0:26:48.559

maybe stretch the stand out i guess a

 

0:26:46.960,0:26:50.640

little bit longer you know there's

 

0:26:48.559,0:26:53.440

sometimes i i feel i don't want to feel

 

0:26:50.640,0:26:55.440

like i'm rushing you know to the end you

 

0:26:53.440,0:26:56.799

know i mean it's kind of almost

 

0:26:55.440,0:26:59.039

you know i think we kind of fall on a

 

0:26:56.799,0:27:00.720

pattern sometimes you know

 

0:26:59.039,0:27:02.480

we want to rush to that puppy sound

 

0:27:00.720,0:27:04.400

that's that's what we're killing coyotes

 

0:27:02.480,0:27:06.080

on but oh i'm the one i'm the worst in

 

0:27:04.400,0:27:07.840

the world getting in a rut i tell you

 

0:27:06.080,0:27:09.200

what i can't i can't get out of it once

 

0:27:07.840,0:27:11.440

i get in it

 

0:27:09.200,0:27:13.440

you know what i mean

 

0:27:11.440,0:27:15.440

i always try to break that up because i

 

0:27:13.440,0:27:18.399

know i'm i know i'm going to do it at

 

0:27:15.440,0:27:20.080

some point right and so i'm just i try

 

0:27:18.399,0:27:21.120

to stretch my stand out a little bit

 

0:27:20.080,0:27:22.559

longer

 

0:27:21.120,0:27:24.559

and just give them something different

 

0:27:22.559,0:27:26.640

maybe they've you know heard that puppy

 

0:27:24.559,0:27:28.880

sound before so i don't want to shoot

 

0:27:26.640,0:27:31.440

myself in the foot before i you know get

 

0:27:28.880,0:27:33.440

there so right that's why i'm trying to

 

0:27:31.440,0:27:35.200

play different things

 

0:27:33.440,0:27:37.440

you know in between a lot of times it

 

0:27:35.200,0:27:40.080

works i mean you know following the

 

0:27:37.440,0:27:41.919

stress right now is a killer i mean it

 

0:27:40.080,0:27:42.960

it just is that's what they're eating

 

0:27:41.919,0:27:44.960

right that's

 

0:27:42.960,0:27:47.679

you know that's their main protein

 

0:27:44.960,0:27:49.600

source right now other than maybe some

 

0:27:47.679,0:27:51.440

grasshoppers and honestly we don't have

 

0:27:49.600,0:27:52.399

a whole lot of grasshoppers right right

 

0:27:51.440,0:27:54.159

right

 

0:27:52.399,0:27:54.960

well that's all

 

0:27:54.159,0:27:57.360

you mean

 

0:27:54.960,0:27:59.039

you mentioned different sounds there

 

0:27:57.360,0:28:01.679

um have you you know we've got a new

 

0:27:59.039,0:28:03.520

partnership with mfk game calls you know

 

0:28:01.679,0:28:04.640

we've been playing around that library

 

0:28:03.520,0:28:06.080

some

 

0:28:04.640,0:28:09.919

over last little bit have you had a

 

0:28:06.080,0:28:11.600

chance to try out any of the mfk sounds

 

0:28:09.919,0:28:12.799

i have uh

 

0:28:11.600,0:28:14.559

and

 

0:28:12.799,0:28:17.039

i don't really

 

0:28:14.559,0:28:18.799

have a whole lot of information on the

 

0:28:17.039,0:28:20.559

new ones i've got them

 

0:28:18.799,0:28:22.080

you know it's kind of like that rut we

 

0:28:20.559,0:28:24.480

were just talking about you kind of get

 

0:28:22.080,0:28:26.960

stuck in that rut and

 

0:28:24.480,0:28:29.919

i've got the new msk sounds and they

 

0:28:26.960,0:28:33.039

sound great that the boom house oh man

 

0:28:29.919,0:28:36.320

man that is that is this killer sound

 

0:28:33.039,0:28:38.240

you know uh the 11 is it the 11 week old

 

0:28:36.320,0:28:40.240

pups

 

0:28:38.240,0:28:42.320

i've had i've had a lot of luck here

 

0:28:40.240,0:28:44.240

lately out of uh earlier on we was

 

0:28:42.320,0:28:46.159

running some that seven week boom pup

 

0:28:44.240,0:28:48.000

and eight week boogie pup and stuff like

 

0:28:46.159,0:28:49.919

that and having a lot of luck and

 

0:28:48.000,0:28:51.760

seemed like it kind of just died off

 

0:28:49.919,0:28:54.320

just a little bit so i bumped up into

 

0:28:51.760,0:28:55.360

the older pups like that 11 week little

 

0:28:54.320,0:28:57.440

bee pup

 

0:28:55.360,0:28:59.360

and some of those 12-week stuff oh man

 

0:28:57.440,0:29:01.760

this is like a flip trap back on and

 

0:28:59.360,0:29:04.159

just i mean screamers huh big you know

 

0:29:01.760,0:29:06.559

hard charging coyotes

 

0:29:04.159,0:29:07.919

well i'll tell you what tori tori cooks

 

0:29:06.559,0:29:10.240

got it going on over there with them

 

0:29:07.919,0:29:12.640

sounds yeah you know what what would

 

0:29:10.240,0:29:14.799

that be like john to have three or four

 

0:29:12.640,0:29:16.559

pounds that you can go see daily and you

 

0:29:14.799,0:29:17.520

know record sounds like that that was

 

0:29:16.559,0:29:19.120

just

 

0:29:17.520,0:29:21.279

i couldn't imagine all the stuff he's

 

0:29:19.120,0:29:23.440

learned you know having those coyotes

 

0:29:21.279,0:29:25.200

right there just just being around them

 

0:29:23.440,0:29:27.279

listening to them watching them interact

 

0:29:25.200,0:29:28.799

and uh you know

 

0:29:27.279,0:29:31.200

you know tory's a wealth of knowledge

 

0:29:28.799,0:29:31.919

and we'll have tori on here before long

 

0:29:31.200,0:29:34.159

so

 

0:29:31.919,0:29:36.480

um you know i'm really interested in

 

0:29:34.159,0:29:38.080

discussing that type of stuff with him

 

0:29:36.480,0:29:41.120

well i'm saying you'll probably learn a

 

0:29:38.080,0:29:43.039

lot for sure

 

0:29:41.120,0:29:44.640

what about

 

0:29:43.039,0:29:47.440

have you tried i mean have you run those

 

0:29:44.640,0:29:49.600

howls lately like the boone house

 

0:29:47.440,0:29:51.200

i have not run the boone house lately

 

0:29:49.600,0:29:52.720

and it's like i said it's nothing

 

0:29:51.200,0:29:54.960

against the sound

 

0:29:52.720,0:29:56.720

i just i'm just been kind of stuck in

 

0:29:54.960,0:29:58.720

that rut you know

 

0:29:56.720,0:30:01.200

what you know using what you know works

 

0:29:58.720,0:30:02.799

for this time yes sir yeah yes sir and i

 

0:30:01.200,0:30:05.520

shouldn't be like that i guess that's

 

0:30:02.799,0:30:07.200

just kind of send you but uh man i hate

 

0:30:05.520,0:30:09.440

i hate to come back home empty-handed

 

0:30:07.200,0:30:10.799

john i hear you well you don't do that

 

0:30:09.440,0:30:13.279

very often

 

0:30:10.799,0:30:15.840

oh boy i do it more than you think

 

0:30:13.279,0:30:17.840

we always hide them dry stands don't we

 

0:30:15.840,0:30:19.919

you bet you

 

0:30:17.840,0:30:21.600

well what about what about the fall

 

0:30:19.919,0:30:23.279

months how does your sound sequence

 

0:30:21.600,0:30:25.120

change up for the fall months from the

 

0:30:23.279,0:30:26.080

summer

 

0:30:25.120,0:30:29.919

uh

 

0:30:26.080,0:30:32.000

i mean i'll start transitioning over you

 

0:30:29.919,0:30:34.640

know more to the parade distress you

 

0:30:32.000,0:30:37.360

know come come the fall months

 

0:30:34.640,0:30:38.080

like i said you know i really want to be

 

0:30:37.360,0:30:40.720

a

 

0:30:38.080,0:30:43.200

be coyote hunting you know late october

 

0:30:40.720,0:30:44.640

and early november and i'll i'll try to

 

0:30:43.200,0:30:46.320

do those stands

 

0:30:44.640,0:30:48.720

you know sometimes when i have the

 

0:30:46.320,0:30:50.880

opportunity but i've always got that

 

0:30:48.720,0:30:53.600

buck in the back of my mind so right my

 

0:30:50.880,0:30:55.760

focus my focus a lot of times you know

 

0:30:53.600,0:30:57.200

gets ruined by a big buck somewhere but

 

0:30:55.760,0:30:58.320

uh you know

 

0:30:57.200,0:31:01.279

i may

 

0:30:58.320,0:31:02.480

i may try to you know start a standoff

 

0:31:01.279,0:31:05.039

with some

 

0:31:02.480,0:31:07.039

you know some lone howls of some type uh

 

0:31:05.039,0:31:08.320

whether it's a female sore house i

 

0:31:07.039,0:31:10.240

really like the

 

0:31:08.320,0:31:12.799

the long house the preset you know you

 

0:31:10.240,0:31:13.919

got your presets on the one and two and

 

0:31:12.799,0:31:14.960

the three

 

0:31:13.919,0:31:17.200

and

 

0:31:14.960,0:31:20.000

my favorite one of them longhouses that

 

0:31:17.200,0:31:21.519

that female longhow then the number one

 

0:31:20.000,0:31:23.760

yeah and i'll use that a lot because

 

0:31:21.519,0:31:25.360

it's got some good paws in it

 

0:31:23.760,0:31:28.320

and

 

0:31:25.360,0:31:29.679

then i'll make transl transition over

 

0:31:28.320,0:31:32.480

you know to

 

0:31:29.679,0:31:35.760

that woodpecker distress or

 

0:31:32.480,0:31:36.559

uh that baby cotton tail yep and then

 

0:31:35.760,0:31:37.760

you know

 

0:31:36.559,0:31:39.919

kind of

 

0:31:37.760,0:31:41.279

finish it off with a puppy distress but

 

0:31:39.919,0:31:43.519

you know that's

 

0:31:41.279,0:31:45.519

that's my typical fall stand right there

 

0:31:43.519,0:31:47.519

before i get into real hardcore

 

0:31:45.519,0:31:49.120

wintertime hunting yeah sounds like

 

0:31:47.519,0:31:51.120

we're pretty much the same and i

 

0:31:49.120,0:31:52.880

actually use those fox pro fox pro

 

0:31:51.120,0:31:54.799

female longhouse too

 

0:31:52.880,0:31:57.440

uh and actually that's instead of female

 

0:31:54.799,0:31:59.600

longhouse one i i tend to go to number

 

0:31:57.440,0:32:01.919

two more often but it sounds like we're

 

0:31:59.600,0:32:03.679

pretty pretty similar on that

 

0:32:01.919,0:32:04.880

yeah that's they're all it's very good

 

0:32:03.679,0:32:06.960

sounds and

 

0:32:04.880,0:32:08.640

i can't tell you how many coyotes that

 

0:32:06.960,0:32:11.200

i've just had come you know just for

 

0:32:08.640,0:32:13.919

that how yep you know and not really

 

0:32:11.200,0:32:17.039

have to do much you know after that to

 

0:32:13.919,0:32:19.039

get that coyote to commit and come on in

 

0:32:17.039,0:32:21.360

what about uh what about winter time you

 

0:32:19.039,0:32:24.559

know deep winter breeding season time

 

0:32:21.360,0:32:26.399

coyotes how'd you stand looking then

 

0:32:24.559,0:32:28.080

well um

 

0:32:26.399,0:32:30.080

like i said i'm always still looking for

 

0:32:28.080,0:32:32.320

that bobcat john right about that time

 

0:32:30.080,0:32:35.039

when you know that pre-rut starts

 

0:32:32.320,0:32:37.200

getting getting in there but if i'm

 

0:32:35.039,0:32:38.559

say i'm hunting a tournament

 

0:32:37.200,0:32:40.240

and uh

 

0:32:38.559,0:32:42.320

you know it's just a coyote only

 

0:32:40.240,0:32:45.200

tournament i really try to turn it on

 

0:32:42.320,0:32:46.960

with vocals and it's usually something a

 

0:32:45.200,0:32:48.399

little bit more aggressive i'll get into

 

0:32:46.960,0:32:50.640

them long house

 

0:32:48.399,0:32:53.440

but i'll get into more

 

0:32:50.640,0:32:55.120

excuse me i'll get into more male long

 

0:32:53.440,0:32:56.480

house

 

0:32:55.120,0:32:58.640

i'll play a

 

0:32:56.480,0:33:01.440

i'll play a female howl and then a male

 

0:32:58.640,0:33:03.519

howl right you know right behind it yep

 

0:33:01.440,0:33:05.120

and then you know just just get that

 

0:33:03.519,0:33:06.080

aggression up there

 

0:33:05.120,0:33:07.440

uh

 

0:33:06.080,0:33:09.760

because the best thing in the whole

 

0:33:07.440,0:33:11.200

world you know as coyote hunters what we

 

0:33:09.760,0:33:12.399

want to see we want to see them hard

 

0:33:11.200,0:33:14.000

chargers

 

0:33:12.399,0:33:16.399

and uh

 

0:33:14.000,0:33:19.039

the thing to get a hard charger is get a

 

0:33:16.399,0:33:20.559

man and

 

0:33:19.039,0:33:21.919

you know you want to see that brawl

 

0:33:20.559,0:33:24.159

coming and that's what they're doing

 

0:33:21.919,0:33:26.640

they're coming in there to whoop some

 

0:33:24.159,0:33:29.519

heidi you know and and run that coyote

 

0:33:26.640,0:33:32.320

out of there so my my typical winter

 

0:33:29.519,0:33:34.399

stand for coyote yeah i get

 

0:33:32.320,0:33:36.799

i get a lot more aggressive i guess i'm

 

0:33:34.399,0:33:38.399

gonna say you know with my sounds yeah

 

0:33:36.799,0:33:40.960

yeah well you mentioned

 

0:33:38.399,0:33:43.519

you mentioned bobcats there so you know

 

0:33:40.960,0:33:46.320

with this wintertime stuff so does your

 

0:33:43.519,0:33:48.640

how does your calling style differ

 

0:33:46.320,0:33:50.080

as far as sequences and sounds played on

 

0:33:48.640,0:33:52.720

the stand when you're hunting a spot

 

0:33:50.080,0:33:54.960

that you think you know is possibly

 

0:33:52.720,0:33:57.840

holding coyotes and bobcats how does

 

0:33:54.960,0:33:58.880

that type of stand look for you

 

0:33:57.840,0:34:01.120

well

 

0:33:58.880,0:34:02.960

you know i've learned i've learned a lot

 

0:34:01.120,0:34:04.840

in the last few years calling in more

 

0:34:02.960,0:34:07.919

bobcats

 

0:34:04.840,0:34:10.240

that my

 

0:34:07.919,0:34:11.119

you know a how don't really bother right

 

0:34:10.240,0:34:12.800

now

 

0:34:11.119,0:34:15.040

not at all i totally agree yeah

 

0:34:12.800,0:34:15.760

especially those big old toms

 

0:34:15.040,0:34:17.520

no

 

0:34:15.760,0:34:19.520

well heck even some of the smaller cats

 

0:34:17.520,0:34:22.000

i've had i've had some smaller cats you

 

0:34:19.520,0:34:24.240

know that'll be standing right next to

 

0:34:22.000,0:34:24.960

the call or close to it i may not see

 

0:34:24.240,0:34:27.919

them

 

0:34:24.960,0:34:29.599

i might roll into the house

 

0:34:27.919,0:34:32.079

and there's there's a cat standing there

 

0:34:29.599,0:34:34.320

and it it's just standing there

 

0:34:32.079,0:34:35.919

it won't even move you know it's like

 

0:34:34.320,0:34:39.520

well that didn't bother me a bit you

 

0:34:35.919,0:34:40.320

know right right and you know so

 

0:34:39.520,0:34:42.240

if

 

0:34:40.320,0:34:44.879

if i really feel like there's a there's

 

0:34:42.240,0:34:47.839

a cat there i may try to start off you

 

0:34:44.879,0:34:49.679

know go straight into cagey cottontail

 

0:34:47.839,0:34:51.679

or missing a cottontail or a baby

 

0:34:49.679,0:34:53.919

cottontail but

 

0:34:51.679,0:34:55.919

if i have any idea that maybe

 

0:34:53.919,0:34:57.760

i'm looking for a coyote first you know

 

0:34:55.919,0:34:59.359

you just kind of get that feel when you

 

0:34:57.760,0:35:01.200

sit on your sand

 

0:34:59.359,0:35:03.599

well let's start out you know trying to

 

0:35:01.200,0:35:05.200

howl in a coyote or you know well let's

 

0:35:03.599,0:35:07.359

go ahead and play distress because there

 

0:35:05.200,0:35:09.119

may be one or the other here so just

 

0:35:07.359,0:35:11.920

kind of the feel once you get to that

 

0:35:09.119,0:35:15.440

sand whatever it feels like to you

 

0:35:11.920,0:35:17.119

that's kind of how i start but uh

 

0:35:15.440,0:35:18.880

yeah play them house because they ain't

 

0:35:17.119,0:35:20.320

gonna bother them bobcats one bit and

 

0:35:18.880,0:35:22.560

that's a question

 

0:35:20.320,0:35:24.480

i get answered a lot you know why are

 

0:35:22.560,0:35:26.560

you do you back off your

 

0:35:24.480,0:35:27.839

you know coyote sounds

 

0:35:26.560,0:35:29.280

you know that time of year because

 

0:35:27.839,0:35:33.040

you're you're trying to call in more

 

0:35:29.280,0:35:34.960

ball cats right no i don't because it

 

0:35:33.040,0:35:36.240

it's never really seemed to bother them

 

0:35:34.960,0:35:38.400

so i just

 

0:35:36.240,0:35:39.599

i just play the coyote sounds if i feel

 

0:35:38.400,0:35:41.760

like it and then

 

0:35:39.599,0:35:43.520

if i don't have a respond to that i'll

 

0:35:41.760,0:35:45.920

just roll into them

 

0:35:43.520,0:35:47.359

to them distress sounds and

 

0:35:45.920,0:35:48.560

nine times out of ten if there's a

 

0:35:47.359,0:35:50.880

bobcat hanging around there you're

 

0:35:48.560,0:35:52.640

probably gonna come in right you know

 

0:35:50.880,0:35:55.119

when you made some good points there

 

0:35:52.640,0:35:57.119

about the coyote vocals um

 

0:35:55.119,0:35:58.000

you know i've been on plenty of stands

 

0:35:57.119,0:35:59.760

were

 

0:35:58.000,0:36:01.359

you know bobcats were the last thing on

 

0:35:59.760,0:36:02.800

my mind i didn't think there was any

 

0:36:01.359,0:36:05.839

bobcats around you know i'm thinking

 

0:36:02.800,0:36:08.079

about calling coyotes and so i start my

 

0:36:05.839,0:36:09.839

you know i'm pretty vocal heavy i'm i'm

 

0:36:08.079,0:36:12.160

starting out with some howls and all

 

0:36:09.839,0:36:13.760

this and uh you know i might switch into

 

0:36:12.160,0:36:15.680

a rabbit just to play for two or three

 

0:36:13.760,0:36:18.720

minutes case one's laying up here hungry

 

0:36:15.680,0:36:20.400

you know um and and nothing shows up to

 

0:36:18.720,0:36:22.720

the house and the rabbit and then i

 

0:36:20.400,0:36:24.880

start playing the pup distresses and

 

0:36:22.720,0:36:26.480

uh fights like the in heist and stuff

 

0:36:24.880,0:36:28.960

like that next thing i know i look up

 

0:36:26.480,0:36:30.000

and there's this bobcat trotting to the

 

0:36:28.960,0:36:32.320

call

 

0:36:30.000,0:36:34.560

you know what happened was he was coming

 

0:36:32.320,0:36:36.079

to the rabbit but i just didn't give him

 

0:36:34.560,0:36:38.480

enough time and he's already switching

 

0:36:36.079,0:36:40.560

to pup distresses and fights and the

 

0:36:38.480,0:36:43.040

sucker don't care he just comes trotting

 

0:36:40.560,0:36:44.800

right in anyway so you know

 

0:36:43.040,0:36:47.040

i mean it sounds like me and corey's on

 

0:36:44.800,0:36:49.440

the same page you know if you've got

 

0:36:47.040,0:36:51.599

coyotes and bobcats in the area and

 

0:36:49.440,0:36:54.079

you're open to taking either one don't

 

0:36:51.599,0:36:55.599

be scared to play the coyote vocals

 

0:36:54.079,0:36:58.720

because they

 

0:36:55.599,0:36:59.520

it i think it does affect some bobcats i

 

0:36:58.720,0:37:01.440

have

 

0:36:59.520,0:37:02.960

been in the same situation just like i'm

 

0:37:01.440,0:37:05.839

talking about

 

0:37:02.960,0:37:07.920

and catch a bobcat coming in or see a

 

0:37:05.839,0:37:09.520

bobcat leaving after i played like a

 

0:37:07.920,0:37:11.440

fight or something but who knows how

 

0:37:09.520,0:37:13.280

long the cat had been there you know

 

0:37:11.440,0:37:14.960

what i mean so but so

 

0:37:13.280,0:37:16.400

definitely don't be scared to play your

 

0:37:14.960,0:37:17.760

your coyote stuff on some of those

 

0:37:16.400,0:37:19.359

stands if you think you got a chance at

 

0:37:17.760,0:37:20.960

a coyote

 

0:37:19.359,0:37:22.880

well the good thing about blowing a

 

0:37:20.960,0:37:25.520

bobcat stand

 

0:37:22.880,0:37:29.040

is they don't process it i don't think

 

0:37:25.520,0:37:31.760

like a coyote does no you know no if uh

 

0:37:29.040,0:37:34.240

you know if i if i blow a bobcat fan i i

 

0:37:31.760,0:37:36.800

usually yeah i'll cuss myself going back

 

0:37:34.240,0:37:37.920

to the truck and be mad at myself for a

 

0:37:36.800,0:37:40.000

few days

 

0:37:37.920,0:37:41.280

but uh you know i'm gonna be right back

 

0:37:40.000,0:37:43.839

in there hunting that cat because

 

0:37:41.280,0:37:45.440

they've been bothering any at all right

 

0:37:43.839,0:37:47.119

right

 

0:37:45.440,0:37:50.560

well let me ask you this since we're on

 

0:37:47.119,0:37:52.880

that subject if you're on stand

 

0:37:50.560,0:37:54.440

and a bobcat and a coyote come at the

 

0:37:52.880,0:37:56.640

same time i'm talking about

 

0:37:54.440,0:37:58.160

simultaneously like just shoulder to

 

0:37:56.640,0:38:00.079

shoulder you got equal shot

 

0:37:58.160,0:38:02.480

opportunities at both

 

0:38:00.079,0:38:04.720

which one are you shooting first

 

0:38:02.480,0:38:06.480

well how big is the bomb kit i don't

 

0:38:04.720,0:38:09.920

care

 

0:38:06.480,0:38:11.430

12-pounder a little 12-pounder

 

0:38:09.920,0:38:14.160

12-32

 

0:38:11.430,0:38:16.800

[Laughter]

 

0:38:14.160,0:38:18.880

boy that 30-pound cat he might he might

 

0:38:16.800,0:38:20.480

get the bullet first but now i'm

 

0:38:18.880,0:38:21.920

probably going to go ahead and take the

 

0:38:20.480,0:38:24.400

coyote

 

0:38:21.920,0:38:26.560

and the reason being and the reason

 

0:38:24.400,0:38:28.640

being is i'm pretty sure i can probably

 

0:38:26.560,0:38:31.880

come back and kill that cat later on in

 

0:38:28.640,0:38:31.880

that coat

 

0:38:32.800,0:38:35.680

yeah

 

0:38:33.760,0:38:37.200

well that's that's pretty interesting i

 

0:38:35.680,0:38:40.160

actually asked that to abner the other

 

0:38:37.200,0:38:42.560

day and abner said you know i'm giving

 

0:38:40.160,0:38:45.760

it to that bobcat but my my finger's

 

0:38:42.560,0:38:48.079

already on that preset for pup

 

0:38:45.760,0:38:50.240

for the coyote

 

0:38:48.079,0:38:52.320

and i'll tell you guys i mentioned 12 to

 

0:38:50.240,0:38:54.079

32 pounds

 

0:38:52.320,0:38:57.440

there's nothing i ask you about this i

 

0:38:54.079,0:38:59.680

you know i when we call bobcats in

 

0:38:57.440,0:39:01.839

it seems like if there are really big

 

0:38:59.680,0:39:03.440

bobcat i know they're big and if they're

 

0:39:01.839,0:39:05.839

a really small bobcat i know they're

 

0:39:03.440,0:39:07.760

small but everything in between that is

 

0:39:05.839,0:39:09.440

just a bobcat to me i'm not very good at

 

0:39:07.760,0:39:11.599

guessing weights are you you know like

 

0:39:09.440,0:39:13.520

in that mid-range type cat like what

 

0:39:11.599,0:39:16.320

we're talking about you know say 15 to

 

0:39:13.520,0:39:16.320

25 pounds

 

0:39:16.400,0:39:21.040

yeah if they are really hard to gauge

 

0:39:18.800,0:39:23.200

you know and because you got so many

 

0:39:21.040,0:39:25.200

variables there with uh

 

0:39:23.200,0:39:27.040

you know with length and

 

0:39:25.200,0:39:29.280

and girth

 

0:39:27.040,0:39:30.880

and of course you know sex of the animal

 

0:39:29.280,0:39:32.400

is going to probably

 

0:39:30.880,0:39:33.680

play a little bit of role in that too

 

0:39:32.400,0:39:37.040

and i am

 

0:39:33.680,0:39:38.400

i'm just like you john i it is hard

 

0:39:37.040,0:39:40.400

for me to

 

0:39:38.400,0:39:42.400

you know tell the difference between

 

0:39:40.400,0:39:45.280

you know a

 

0:39:42.400,0:39:48.320

15 pound bobcat and a 25 pound bobcat

 

0:39:45.280,0:39:50.160

yeah it's just i can't do it and

 

0:39:48.320,0:39:52.160

i've killed some cats that were pretty

 

0:39:50.160,0:39:54.640

small and i you know

 

0:39:52.160,0:39:57.040

hey that's that's just how it goes if i

 

0:39:54.640,0:39:58.960

would have known that cat was

 

0:39:57.040,0:40:01.760

you know 12 pounds i would i probably

 

0:39:58.960,0:40:03.040

would have let him walk but right

 

0:40:01.760,0:40:05.599

you know you get in the heat of that

 

0:40:03.040,0:40:06.720

moment you know the thrill of the of the

 

0:40:05.599,0:40:08.880

the call

 

0:40:06.720,0:40:12.480

and it's really it's really hard to

 

0:40:08.880,0:40:14.400

gauge that it is it is for sure what uh

 

0:40:12.480,0:40:16.319

i think your your answer there is pretty

 

0:40:14.400,0:40:18.800

interesting and and

 

0:40:16.319,0:40:20.319

i think it's probably you know

 

0:40:18.800,0:40:22.839

like i said abner said he's shooting a

 

0:40:20.319,0:40:25.280

cat first and and

 

0:40:22.839,0:40:26.560

really if like you was talking about in

 

0:40:25.280,0:40:28.160

the heat in the in the heat of the

 

0:40:26.560,0:40:30.160

moment i'm probably shooting the cat

 

0:40:28.160,0:40:31.680

first too but really if you sit there

 

0:40:30.160,0:40:33.440

and think about it if you can stay

 

0:40:31.680,0:40:35.440

cool-headed enough

 

0:40:33.440,0:40:36.960

you've got a lot you know you always got

 

0:40:35.440,0:40:38.960

that chance of calling that coyote back

 

0:40:36.960,0:40:40.640

in with some pup stuff and fights or

 

0:40:38.960,0:40:41.839

give him a stop for his second shot

 

0:40:40.640,0:40:43.440

opportunity

 

0:40:41.839,0:40:45.200

but you know there's a pretty good

 

0:40:43.440,0:40:48.079

chance you could shoot that coyote and

 

0:40:45.200,0:40:49.200

that bobcat never even flinch

 

0:40:48.079,0:40:50.960

that's true

 

0:40:49.200,0:40:52.720

that is very true

 

0:40:50.960,0:40:55.680

i would like to kind of maybe have that

 

0:40:52.720,0:40:56.480

situation i've been close a couple times

 

0:40:55.680,0:40:59.040

uh

 

0:40:56.480,0:41:01.040

matter of fact it's been probably

 

0:40:59.040,0:41:03.359

about three years ago

 

0:41:01.040,0:41:05.839

i called in it i've been calling for a

 

0:41:03.359,0:41:07.839

long time and it was one of them where

 

0:41:05.839,0:41:09.520

you really didn't have time to make two

 

0:41:07.839,0:41:12.000

stands at the end of the day

 

0:41:09.520,0:41:13.920

so i just kind of i thought well i'll

 

0:41:12.000,0:41:15.359

sit here till either kill something or

 

0:41:13.920,0:41:16.720

it gets too dark

 

0:41:15.359,0:41:19.520

to see

 

0:41:16.720,0:41:21.920

and uh had a big male coyote come in and

 

0:41:19.520,0:41:23.760

i was actually packing the shotgun

 

0:41:21.920,0:41:26.000

that that evening

 

0:41:23.760,0:41:28.079

and coyote come up there about 20 yards

 

0:41:26.000,0:41:29.359

and i hit him with the shotgun

 

0:41:28.079,0:41:31.200

and uh

 

0:41:29.359,0:41:33.680

i thought i was done with the sand and i

 

0:41:31.200,0:41:35.920

was done with the sand i stood up and

 

0:41:33.680,0:41:38.079

was gonna go down there and retrieve

 

0:41:35.920,0:41:40.480

retrieve my coyote and right there's a

 

0:41:38.079,0:41:42.720

bump yet sitting i got about

 

0:41:40.480,0:41:44.560

old five or ten feet from my

 

0:41:42.720,0:41:45.680

from my setup and i left my shotgun

 

0:41:44.560,0:41:47.440

laying there

 

0:41:45.680,0:41:48.640

you'd already got up and was walking to

 

0:41:47.440,0:41:51.359

the coyote

 

0:41:48.640,0:41:52.880

yeah yeah and that that color or that

 

0:41:51.359,0:41:54.640

bobcat was just sitting there next to

 

0:41:52.880,0:41:56.480

some brush and i never knew it was there

 

0:41:54.640,0:41:59.040

until i started walking to get

 

0:41:56.480,0:42:00.560

get my coyote and he bounced off and run

 

0:41:59.040,0:42:02.960

off and

 

0:42:00.560,0:42:05.359

and that's that's i guess maybe that's

 

0:42:02.960,0:42:06.319

that scenario that we were just talking

 

0:42:05.359,0:42:09.599

about i

 

0:42:06.319,0:42:12.560

i called that bobcat back in john

 

0:42:09.599,0:42:14.560

you got to work on it this winter

 

0:42:12.560,0:42:17.440

you know i've i've called cats and

 

0:42:14.560,0:42:18.560

coyotes several times on the same stand

 

0:42:17.440,0:42:21.040

and uh

 

0:42:18.560,0:42:22.400

every single time if they show up

 

0:42:21.040,0:42:24.400

at the same time you know if you see

 

0:42:22.400,0:42:26.880

them out there coming

 

0:42:24.400,0:42:29.359

once the coyote sees that cat every

 

0:42:26.880,0:42:32.079

single time i've experienced that the

 

0:42:29.359,0:42:34.240

the bobcat gets the right away the the

 

0:42:32.079,0:42:35.520

coyote will usually flare

 

0:42:34.240,0:42:38.240

yeah

 

0:42:35.520,0:42:39.280

and i i don't doubt that one bit and i

 

0:42:38.240,0:42:40.800

think

 

0:42:39.280,0:42:42.960

you know what we was talking about

 

0:42:40.800,0:42:44.720

several minutes back about

 

0:42:42.960,0:42:46.160

go ahead and play your

 

0:42:44.720,0:42:48.960

your coyote sounds whether you're

 

0:42:46.160,0:42:51.200

targeting both animals you know

 

0:42:48.960,0:42:53.920

that that bobcat's not scared of that

 

0:42:51.200,0:42:55.760

kind of one bit right right and i think

 

0:42:53.920,0:42:57.920

it's the other way around i think that

 

0:42:55.760,0:42:59.680

you know most of these coyotes probably

 

0:42:57.920,0:43:01.440

have been whooped by a big old bobcat

 

0:42:59.680,0:43:03.280

somewhere and they know they know that

 

0:43:01.440,0:43:04.640

hurts they've either been whooped or

 

0:43:03.280,0:43:07.440

they got the bluff on them one of the

 

0:43:04.640,0:43:07.440

two for sure

 

0:43:08.560,0:43:12.000

well it's been some pretty good stuff

 

0:43:10.240,0:43:14.319

cory i'm gonna ask you just like three

 

0:43:12.000,0:43:16.400

or four little quick hit questions here

 

0:43:14.319,0:43:18.319

just so uh we kind of know a little bit

 

0:43:16.400,0:43:20.480

more about you and how you uh how you

 

0:43:18.319,0:43:22.240

like to call and one is what's your

 

0:43:20.480,0:43:24.640

favorite unit what you you know you can

 

0:43:22.240,0:43:27.599

run any foxpro unit you want right now

 

0:43:24.640,0:43:29.119

so what are you running

 

0:43:27.599,0:43:31.280

well

 

0:43:29.119,0:43:33.920

that's a very good question john because

 

0:43:31.280,0:43:35.440

it you know fox pros got

 

0:43:33.920,0:43:37.119

got a whole

 

0:43:35.440,0:43:38.960

bunch of really good

 

0:43:37.119,0:43:40.480

good units out

 

0:43:38.960,0:43:43.200

but i'm really gonna have to lean

 

0:43:40.480,0:43:45.920

towards that x24 that's gonna

 

0:43:43.200,0:43:46.800

i think that's gonna be my top choice

 

0:43:45.920,0:43:49.359

and

 

0:43:46.800,0:43:52.800

now if i was wanting to run two sounds

 

0:43:49.359,0:43:55.040

at once more often and i i don't

 

0:43:52.800,0:43:58.240

a lot of the times but uh

 

0:43:55.040,0:43:59.839

the x 2s would be you know the second

 

0:43:58.240,0:44:00.960

favorite there but either one of them

 

0:43:59.839,0:44:03.839

two calls

 

0:44:00.960,0:44:05.760

i really feel like that x24 just has a

 

0:44:03.839,0:44:08.560

little bit more volume

 

0:44:05.760,0:44:10.480

on the x2s and that that might just be

 

0:44:08.560,0:44:12.319

my ears but uh

 

0:44:10.480,0:44:15.920

that's the call i'm grabbing i believe

 

0:44:12.319,0:44:18.400

yeah yep all right well what about uh

 

0:44:15.920,0:44:20.839

what's your top three favorite sounds

 

0:44:18.400,0:44:24.319

when i ask you that what i mean it is if

 

0:44:20.839,0:44:26.480

if foxpro sent you a unit and they said

 

0:44:24.319,0:44:28.079

this year you can only run three sounds

 

0:44:26.480,0:44:30.319

you pick what they are that's what comes

 

0:44:28.079,0:44:33.680

on the unit you can add nothing to it

 

0:44:30.319,0:44:33.680

what three sounds are you picking

 

0:44:34.400,0:44:39.680

to hunt always

 

0:44:35.680,0:44:39.680

all year coyote 10 bobcats

 

0:44:40.240,0:44:42.800

well

 

0:44:41.680,0:44:44.640

number one

 

0:44:42.800,0:44:47.280

number one is going to be that cagey

 

0:44:44.640,0:44:50.240

cottontail because i've killed so many

 

0:44:47.280,0:44:51.680

coyotes and bobcats off of that sound

 

0:44:50.240,0:44:53.119

you know that's definitely going to have

 

0:44:51.680,0:44:57.440

to be on there i don't know if it's

 

0:44:53.119,0:44:59.520

number one but it's on that call yeah uh

 

0:44:57.440,0:45:01.359

yeah man and i'm a distressed guy i

 

0:44:59.520,0:45:02.560

really like the stress sound so i'm

 

0:45:01.359,0:45:05.280

probably going to go with that missing

 

0:45:02.560,0:45:07.200

the cottontail too so you got that you

 

0:45:05.280,0:45:08.800

got two rabbit sounds now you got kg and

 

0:45:07.200,0:45:11.119

misses my cottontail now you got one

 

0:45:08.800,0:45:11.119

more

 

0:45:11.359,0:45:16.160

oh boy

 

0:45:13.359,0:45:16.160

let's uh

 

0:45:16.319,0:45:19.920

let's go i'm gonna have to say female

 

0:45:18.400,0:45:22.480

sore house

 

0:45:19.920,0:45:24.400

female sore house nice nice so you got

 

0:45:22.480,0:45:25.839

female sore house and two rabbits to

 

0:45:24.400,0:45:27.440

choose from

 

0:45:25.839,0:45:29.680

yeah i think i can do some pretty good

 

0:45:27.440,0:45:32.480

damage with them then three right there

 

0:45:29.680,0:45:34.000

on bobcats and coyotes it sounds sounds

 

0:45:32.480,0:45:35.839

like a winner to me it sounds pretty

 

0:45:34.000,0:45:37.599

good that's pretty good uh choice on

 

0:45:35.839,0:45:39.520

your three sounds all right

 

0:45:37.599,0:45:41.200

got one more for you last one then we're

 

0:45:39.520,0:45:43.280

gonna wrap it up

 

0:45:41.200,0:45:45.760

what if we sent you a call

 

0:45:43.280,0:45:48.640

and it only has one sound on it you can

 

0:45:45.760,0:45:50.319

only run one sound for the year what

 

0:45:48.640,0:45:51.520

sound are you gonna have loaded on that

 

0:45:50.319,0:45:53.200

call

 

0:45:51.520,0:45:57.280

missing the cottontail

 

0:45:53.200,0:45:59.680

boom right there one of the newer sounds

 

0:45:57.280,0:46:01.440

ain't been out very long and it sure has

 

0:45:59.680,0:46:02.960

proven itself over the short time it's

 

0:46:01.440,0:46:04.880

been out had it

 

0:46:02.960,0:46:06.960

yes sir it sure has it's a very good

 

0:46:04.880,0:46:08.720

sound it's just got

 

0:46:06.960,0:46:11.520

it's got different depth

 

0:46:08.720,0:46:13.359

you know inside the sound it's got

 

0:46:11.520,0:46:15.680

you know a lot of high pitch it's got

 

0:46:13.359,0:46:17.599

rafts to it there's just a lot of

 

0:46:15.680,0:46:18.480

different things in that sound that make

 

0:46:17.599,0:46:20.480

it

 

0:46:18.480,0:46:23.280

you know the top shelf call

 

0:46:20.480,0:46:24.640

or top shelf sound that it is man that's

 

0:46:23.280,0:46:25.920

that's all and you can call anything

 

0:46:24.640,0:46:29.359

with it and call

 

0:46:25.920,0:46:30.960

gray fox red fox bobcats coyotes you

 

0:46:29.359,0:46:32.400

know whatever you're going after as

 

0:46:30.960,0:46:35.440

predator-wise they're going to come to

 

0:46:32.400,0:46:37.200

it it's a yeah it's a great great choice

 

0:46:35.440,0:46:38.720

and you can even win a pro tournament on

 

0:46:37.200,0:46:40.960

it too

 

0:46:38.720,0:46:42.800

it sure fires up the crow it fires up

 

0:46:40.960,0:46:44.800

everything that's for sure

 

0:46:42.800,0:46:46.720

i tell you what cory i really appreciate

 

0:46:44.800,0:46:48.640

you coming along with us man i've i've

 

0:46:46.720,0:46:50.319

learned a lot hopefully you know every

 

0:46:48.640,0:46:52.160

all of our listeners took something from

 

0:46:50.319,0:46:53.760

this too because man you're a wealth of

 

0:46:52.160,0:46:56.720

knowledge and i just really appreciate

 

0:46:53.760,0:46:59.040

you discussing this stuff with us well i

 

0:46:56.720,0:47:02.160

appreciate the you know the opportunity

 

0:46:59.040,0:47:04.079

and that that means more to me than than

 

0:47:02.160,0:47:05.520

you know me trying to get

 

0:47:04.079,0:47:07.680

you know

 

0:47:05.520,0:47:11.359

out there you know i mean i i just

 

0:47:07.680,0:47:14.240

appreciate the opportunities that foxpro

 

0:47:11.359,0:47:16.560

gives us staff members you know and that

 

0:47:14.240,0:47:18.079

that really means a lot to us well i'll

 

0:47:16.560,0:47:20.640

tell you what you're a staff member for

 

0:47:18.079,0:47:22.240

a reason and like i said we really

 

0:47:20.640,0:47:23.680

appreciate you coming on and we hope

 

0:47:22.240,0:47:25.280

everyone is listening enjoyed this

 

0:47:23.680,0:47:29.319

episode and we hope you join us again

 

0:47:25.280,0:47:29.319

right here on the foxpro podcast