Foxpro Field Staffer Corey Groff is an excellent predator hunter with a knack for harvesting big Missouri bobcats. In this episode, he breaks down his approach to predator hunting and shares some valuable tips for bagging bobcats.
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welcome to the foxpro podcast
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brought to you by foxpro gamecalls
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hey everyone this is john collins
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welcome back to the fox pro podcast on
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this episode we're gonna be talking
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predator hunting with foxpro field
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staffer corey groff
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corey what's going on man
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not much john how you doing bud i've
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been doing pretty good i've seen that uh
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you've been coyote hunting a little bit
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here lately
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yeah yeah kind of a little unorthodox
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for
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choreographed to get out in the
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summertime but i've had a little bit of
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time
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this past summer to get out a little bit
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and kind of beat the heat you know the
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last few weeks now it's you know seemed
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like mother nature's really turned it on
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in the last week right yeah still
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i think you all supposed to have some
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pretty hot weather last couple days
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through missouri right
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yes sir right now let me see here we've
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got 101 right now and it's supposed to
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get
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103 104 towards the end of the week so
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it's going to be pretty pretty miserable
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yeah well
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corey tell us tell us a little bit about
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yourself let everyone know who corey
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groff is
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okay well i'll do the best i can uh
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well
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obviously i'm corey groff i live right
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here in south central missouri
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a little town by the name of houston
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and
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i've been here since uh let's see my
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folks moved up here
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in the late 80s
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my grandpa had bought a farm
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oh
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the the
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the family farm here
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back in the early 60s and
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and uh we moved here back in the mid 80s
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from south texas and
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and we just kind of took off from there
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you know with uh with the family farm
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and whatnot but uh anyhow i've got a
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beautiful wife stephanie i've got two
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kids
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uh my oldest son
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is braden
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uh he's
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gonna be 22 years old so that i'm kind
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of dating myself there
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and then i've got a beautiful young
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daughter uh her name's corey lynn 15
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years old
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and uh anyhow we just we're just a
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modest family living out here
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in the heartland of missouri right well
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hey
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sounds awesome to me sounds like picture
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perfect
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well we're we're blessed so yeah
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definitely and i've got to say for you
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know everybody out there listen you know
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corey ain't gonna pump himself up too
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much but corey is one of the premier
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daytime coyote bobcat callers in the
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world he's always piling up to coyotes
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but corey
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man your bobcat success really stands
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out to me and and to several others uh
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you know when bobcat season comes in i'm
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always on the lookout for cory groff
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posting up some bobcat pictures
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well
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you know i've always felt the same way
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with john collins
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you know i
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i kind of always envy them big old
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pretty pretty uh kentucky cats you like
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to shoot out that way
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and yeah i've had the last few years
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i've had a really high success rate on
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bobcats which we're getting a lot of
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bobcats
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you know right here in this part of the
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state so it's been a lot of fun and
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and it's something that i've kind of you
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know
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really dialed in on
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and kind of fine-tuned some of that and
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i don't know it's probably
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it's probably 90 percent luck you know
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i'll take it however i can get it i love
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luck well let's talk about bobcat uh
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bobcat calling a little bit corey uh you
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do any kind of scouting for bobcats at
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all
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uh you know i do uh
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especially you know like
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early deer season you know it seems like
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you know you're out and about a lot more
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that time of year
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so i'm all the time looking at the
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ground right that's one of my favorite
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things to do
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even when i'm in and out on on gravel
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roads you know
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i'm all the time looking for scat
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whether it's coyote bobcat tracks you
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know whatever right uh
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but i always make that middle note when
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i see a see a bobcat track you know and
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i always try to size it up you know that
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looks like a that looks like a good paw
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print right there on that cat you know
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and then
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then my mind's wondering well i got a
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big tom in here or what do i got you
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know
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but i'm yes sir i always try to you know
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make that mental note of something i see
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but i don't really typically just go out
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looking for a bobcat sign it just
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happens i stumble upon it which
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you know i probably like a lot of
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guys like yourself you know
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when you're out and about you just pay
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attention to those things sometimes
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right not not necessarily going out on a
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on a bobcat scouting mission but
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whenever you are out or out you're uh
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actively always looking for a sign so to
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speak exactly yes sir
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and he was talking about sizing up paw
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prints to see you know maybe you have a
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big tom or whatever you do have a knack
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of killing some great big old cats seem
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like every year you get at least one
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decent sized cat
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yeah yeah uh this last year i really
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didn't kill a really good one like i'd
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like i would want to
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uh but the year before that i killed
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probably around 30 pound cat you know
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which it seems like they don't want
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which is a monster
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it is it's pretty good-sized cat
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especially in this area our cats are
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usually
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long and lanky and they usually don't
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get no girth to them
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uh so killing that cat with a little bit
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of girth on it that's kind of where i
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really that's what i like right right
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what's the what's the biggest bobcat
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you've ever killed you've mentioned a 30
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pound or you've killed anything bigger
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than a 30 pounder
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i have oh
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oh gosh it's probably been
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let's see this is almost 23 so it had to
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been around 2012 or 13.
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i killed a 36 pound bobcat my goodness
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yes sir and uh i still have a small
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video clip of that cat coming in
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somewhere and i need to dig that out and
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see if i can't find it but
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yeah that that was my biggest cat thus
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far
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and uh
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the big old male just had
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you know a lot of girth to his belly way
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back you know like in his in his uh
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haunches there you know he had a lot of
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growth back in there
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and so you could tell he was an old cat
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and i'm very proud of that one sure
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how many how many cats are you guys
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allowed in missouri
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well
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we don't actually have a limit here in
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missouri oh man you love a dog
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yeah we've been pretty lucky on that end
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and uh we actually got a little bit
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luckier this next coming season uh
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it's been i don't know the exact date
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john but it's been several years back
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they
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they kind of flipped you know our our
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cat seasons around
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and uh but typically here in the last
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few years we've been november 15th
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and it runs through
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january 31st and that's
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that goes along with our trapping season
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and uh so in that a lot of time we can
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kill or trap as many bobcats as we want
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so
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yeah it's been it's been pretty nice we
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don't have to work on a quota we've got
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a lot of bobcats you know and that is
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the reason why we've got the season
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we've got obviously i like to i like the
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sound of that don't have to buy any tags
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or anything like that just you know
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there's
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there's nothing special uh you can hunt
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bobcat here
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in missouri with the same
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you know small game hunting permit uh
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you know like you would for a coyote but
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the only stipulation that
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missouri does have and of course they go
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along with the rest of the country on
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that is if you're you know if you're
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going to sell your cat or have it
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uh mounted get somebody's tag yeah yeah
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it needs to have some type of permit or
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a tag on it yeah yeah
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well what what does a typical i'm going
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to get into the good stuff here what
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everybody's wanting to hear
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what does what does a typical bobcat
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stand look like for you corey give us an
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example of how you know how you like to
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set up and your
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your sound sequence or general idea of
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it and hold on a second get my ink pen i
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say a slide i talked to i talked to
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abner the other day and and talked to al
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a week or so ago you know i'm making
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sure i'm taking plenty of notes learning
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from you guys
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[Laughter]
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did they grab a pen and paper too
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because i know they can learn a lot from
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you as well oh you know big al he don't
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need to learn nothing from nobody
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but uh oh let's see well i guess we'll
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start off with uh
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maybe you know what i'm looking at in a
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bobcat stand
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uh
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so what i'm looking for in a bobcat
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stand is is
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of course i always like to be elevated
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and here in my part of the state it's
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not hard to do there's a lot of hills
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and hollers
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cow pastures and whatnot but we also
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have
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a lot of cedar glades a lot of ridges
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uh a lot of brushy patches and that
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that's prime that's what i'm looking for
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i'm looking for that
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standard buck brush or buyer patch
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or
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cedar ridge that you know
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that's got a lot of cover to it
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but i'm also looking for
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a good water source because
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a bobcat as much as cats we know don't
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you know dislike water a bomb cat's got
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to have it and
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with that being said you know my mind
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is telling me that
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you know bobcats are using that water
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source not only to hydrate themselves
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but they're using it to ambush they're
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using it to ambush their prey
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and uh so that's what i'm looking for
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when i'm
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you know
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looking at a bobcat stand and it
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and i you know i stumble along
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early in the season
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i do try to target some bobcats
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especially if i
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made that mental note where i've seen
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some scat
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or where i've seen you know some call
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tracks or whatnot but
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later
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you know after about the first of the
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year my kind of focus more on coyote
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hunting
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and then i just kind of stumble upon you
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know a lot of the cats that i do take at
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that time right but it's usually on you
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know your prey distress sounds obviously
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right but uh
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and then if you want to get into some of
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that you know just as well as i do man
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we've got
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you know as far as fox pro goes we got
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some of the best sounds in the world
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for bobcats i mean man the the rat the
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rabbit you know our prey distress as far
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as rabbit sounds go especially in in my
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eyes in my mind it's i mean close
0:11:18.079,0:11:23.519
no no there i i don't know of any
0:11:21.279,0:11:25.040
library out there
0:11:23.519,0:11:27.360
that could
0:11:25.040,0:11:29.200
touch it and i and i know we're probably
0:11:27.360,0:11:31.360
a little bit biased but
0:11:29.200,0:11:34.079
it's the god's honest truth that that is
0:11:31.360,0:11:37.200
the truth there's not a better
0:11:34.079,0:11:39.279
library for bobcats as far as
0:11:37.200,0:11:41.200
rabbit goes on the planet
0:11:39.279,0:11:42.640
i mean i've i've told people this
0:11:41.200,0:11:44.880
multiple times and i always tell them
0:11:42.640,0:11:47.040
don't take this the wrong way and don't
0:11:44.880,0:11:49.279
get mad when i say this
0:11:47.040,0:11:51.680
but if you cannot find
0:11:49.279,0:11:53.519
a handful of rabbit sounds that work for
0:11:51.680,0:11:55.760
you from foxpro
0:11:53.519,0:11:57.760
it's not the sounds
0:11:55.760,0:12:00.880
it's something else going wrong it isn't
0:11:57.760,0:12:03.519
trust me it is not the sounds
0:12:00.880,0:12:04.399
i agree with that i i highly agree with
0:12:03.519,0:12:05.600
that
0:12:04.399,0:12:07.519
you know
0:12:05.600,0:12:10.639
some of my quest for being a better
0:12:07.519,0:12:12.079
bobcat under way back you know and i
0:12:10.639,0:12:14.720
think you and i talked about this a
0:12:12.079,0:12:16.959
little bit in the past i was i i really
0:12:14.720,0:12:19.440
got hooked on you know the snowshoe
0:12:16.959,0:12:21.279
sounds yes and uh
0:12:19.440,0:12:22.800
you know and i really like them but i
0:12:21.279,0:12:26.000
was kind of in that
0:12:22.800,0:12:28.399
you know i was kind of in that where
0:12:26.000,0:12:30.320
i'm just stumbling upon bobcats with
0:12:28.399,0:12:34.240
with that you know sound i was really
0:12:30.320,0:12:36.959
targeting more the coyote side of things
0:12:34.240,0:12:39.680
and then i really kind of leaned towards
0:12:36.959,0:12:40.560
now where i've really kind of fine-tuned
0:12:39.680,0:12:42.639
what
0:12:40.560,0:12:44.959
what my ears
0:12:42.639,0:12:47.680
feel like i should be calling with and
0:12:44.959,0:12:51.200
that's obviously your cagey cottontail
0:12:47.680,0:12:54.240
your mrs nick cottontail but
0:12:51.200,0:12:56.720
man i i really love the baby baby
0:12:54.240,0:12:58.959
cottontails the the baby
0:12:56.720,0:13:02.720
the b-a-y-b-e-e
0:12:58.959,0:13:05.440
is one of my favorite all-time sounds
0:13:02.720,0:13:07.279
but man i always find myself
0:13:05.440,0:13:10.560
hitting my preset on that cagey
0:13:07.279,0:13:12.399
cottontail oh man well let's talk to
0:13:10.560,0:13:14.800
abner you know one of his favorite
0:13:12.399,0:13:16.320
sounds is baby cottontail and he'll tell
0:13:14.800,0:13:18.639
you if you know if he only has a handful
0:13:16.320,0:13:20.639
of sounds he's going to make sure baby
0:13:18.639,0:13:23.200
cocktail's one of them
0:13:20.639,0:13:25.040
but you know when it comes to to bobcats
0:13:23.200,0:13:27.360
i think me and you probably call pretty
0:13:25.040,0:13:29.120
similar and i mean you've talked about
0:13:27.360,0:13:31.120
this in the past message and back and
0:13:29.120,0:13:32.880
forth
0:13:31.120,0:13:35.360
my opinion
0:13:32.880,0:13:38.000
is kg cottontail
0:13:35.360,0:13:41.760
and mrs mccottentail which is a newer
0:13:38.000,0:13:46.399
sound is probably the two best
0:13:41.760,0:13:48.639
bobcat calling sounds ever recorded
0:13:46.399,0:13:51.639
i i absolutely have to agree with that
0:13:48.639,0:13:54.800
and if you use those two sounds
0:13:51.639,0:13:57.040
simultaneously on a stan on a stand
0:13:54.800,0:14:00.320
and your success is going to go up i i
0:13:57.040,0:14:02.639
really do believe that yeah i mean if if
0:14:00.320,0:14:04.240
i i'm usually leading a lot of times you
0:14:02.639,0:14:06.880
know usually i used to always lead with
0:14:04.240,0:14:08.720
baby cottontail and um over the last
0:14:06.880,0:14:09.600
couple years i'm either i've got to
0:14:08.720,0:14:11.680
where
0:14:09.600,0:14:14.720
i just kind of leave that as my last
0:14:11.680,0:14:16.720
resort sound almost like a coaxer sound
0:14:14.720,0:14:19.199
but i've been starting out with either
0:14:16.720,0:14:20.959
kg or mrs mccotton tail and and
0:14:19.199,0:14:22.639
whichever one i run first is just
0:14:20.959,0:14:24.959
whatever i'm feeling at the time but it
0:14:22.639,0:14:26.399
almost seems like if there's a cat there
0:14:24.959,0:14:28.639
if they don't show up to that first
0:14:26.399,0:14:30.560
sound whether it be kg or mrs mc
0:14:28.639,0:14:33.279
cottontail when you start playing that
0:14:30.560,0:14:35.040
second sound whichever one it is cagey
0:14:33.279,0:14:36.880
or they're they're coming they're there
0:14:35.040,0:14:38.959
they show up to one of those two sounds
0:14:36.880,0:14:41.600
every single time almost
0:14:38.959,0:14:43.440
yeah it's like if you break that rhythm
0:14:41.600,0:14:45.440
you know whatever's got them hung up a
0:14:43.440,0:14:47.519
little bit if you break that rhythm
0:14:45.440,0:14:50.480
throw it to the next sound it just seems
0:14:47.519,0:14:52.160
like it's just instant you know right
0:14:50.480,0:14:53.440
and uh
0:14:52.160,0:14:55.839
yeah it's just the man there ain't
0:14:53.440,0:14:57.600
nothing better watching my bobcats
0:14:55.839,0:15:00.079
goodness you telling the truth right
0:14:57.600,0:15:02.079
there and and and to kind of touch a
0:15:00.079,0:15:03.760
little bit on what corey just said there
0:15:02.079,0:15:05.680
and i've noticed this over the years and
0:15:03.760,0:15:07.519
i think me and corey has probably talked
0:15:05.680,0:15:08.880
about this before just messaging back
0:15:07.519,0:15:11.680
and forth but
0:15:08.880,0:15:14.000
like myself i usually will run
0:15:11.680,0:15:16.320
you know three to four five sometimes
0:15:14.000,0:15:18.560
different distress sounds on what i
0:15:16.320,0:15:21.040
think is a bobcat stand where i think
0:15:18.560,0:15:22.399
there's going to be a bobcat and
0:15:21.040,0:15:24.000
usually i'm running those sounds for
0:15:22.399,0:15:26.160
anywhere from four to six minutes a
0:15:24.000,0:15:27.760
piece and just like what corey just said
0:15:26.160,0:15:29.519
right there i might run that first sound
0:15:27.760,0:15:31.920
for four to six minutes
0:15:29.519,0:15:34.320
and and not see nothing and what i'll do
0:15:31.920,0:15:36.160
is i'll pause for just like 20 to 40
0:15:34.320,0:15:38.480
seconds you know under a minute
0:15:36.160,0:15:41.680
as soon as i start start that second
0:15:38.480,0:15:43.199
sound up those it just seems like it
0:15:41.680,0:15:45.199
triggers something it's almost like that
0:15:43.199,0:15:48.079
paw like they were coming to that first
0:15:45.199,0:15:49.120
sound and either slowed up or stopped
0:15:48.079,0:15:51.360
out there where you couldn't see them or
0:15:49.120,0:15:52.320
whatever and then that sound pauses or
0:15:51.360,0:15:54.720
leaves
0:15:52.320,0:15:57.120
and they start to feel a sense of
0:15:54.720,0:15:59.199
urgency like they've lost that sound as
0:15:57.120,0:16:00.800
soon as that second sound starts up and
0:15:59.199,0:16:02.639
it's a different rhythm
0:16:00.800,0:16:04.320
a different pitch they come running in
0:16:02.639,0:16:06.000
just like a coyote
0:16:04.320,0:16:09.040
yeah that's absolutely right and i
0:16:06.000,0:16:12.000
definitely agree with that and it and i
0:16:09.040,0:16:14.639
think when you make that pause
0:16:12.000,0:16:16.399
it's just just me but i think just you
0:16:14.639,0:16:18.320
know you did say it there
0:16:16.399,0:16:20.320
i think they they think the sound's gone
0:16:18.320,0:16:22.000
away from them or or something has
0:16:20.320,0:16:24.240
happened you know they've they've got
0:16:22.000,0:16:26.399
that meal taken out from underneath them
0:16:24.240,0:16:28.240
and they want to figure out why
0:16:26.399,0:16:29.839
you know and
0:16:28.240,0:16:31.759
so i think that's you know that
0:16:29.839,0:16:34.399
transition from one sound to the next
0:16:31.759,0:16:35.199
and giving it a good pause is is very
0:16:34.399,0:16:37.519
key
0:16:35.199,0:16:39.040
yep but uh now john let me ask you a
0:16:37.519,0:16:41.040
question and i don't know if we've ever
0:16:39.040,0:16:42.959
talked about it hey you listen here
0:16:41.040,0:16:45.759
buddy i'm the one doing the interview i
0:16:42.959,0:16:45.759
asked a question
0:16:46.160,0:16:48.720
let's hear it
0:16:47.920,0:16:51.680
well
0:16:48.720,0:16:53.279
you know i typically you know
0:16:51.680,0:16:55.199
my volume runs
0:16:53.279,0:16:58.880
you know right there around
0:16:55.199,0:17:02.399
18 20 to 22 on a bobcat
0:16:58.880,0:17:04.480
stand yep but uh you know if i
0:17:02.399,0:17:06.160
if i've got a bobcat that's coming you
0:17:04.480,0:17:08.240
know they're pretty sensitive to sound
0:17:06.160,0:17:10.079
i'll i'll just go ahead and i'll run
0:17:08.240,0:17:12.880
that sound way down there you know get
0:17:10.079,0:17:15.039
it down sometimes below 10. yeah and it
0:17:12.880,0:17:16.880
just really seems like if you're trying
0:17:15.039,0:17:18.720
to take that sound away from them like
0:17:16.880,0:17:21.760
we was just talking that
0:17:18.720,0:17:25.760
it really you know expresses them to
0:17:21.760,0:17:25.760
make a move even even more right
0:17:25.839,0:17:30.000
so so is is the question asking me if i
0:17:28.720,0:17:32.880
do that
0:17:30.000,0:17:34.240
do you do that yes sir well i'll tell
0:17:32.880,0:17:35.120
you what um
0:17:34.240,0:17:37.280
usually
0:17:35.120,0:17:40.080
i you know when i when bobcat season
0:17:37.280,0:17:42.960
comes in my presets and my remote change
0:17:40.080,0:17:45.039
uh usually i'm pretty vocal heavy uh
0:17:42.960,0:17:47.120
until you know
0:17:45.039,0:17:49.200
winter you know my our season comes in
0:17:47.120,0:17:51.120
the same time pretty much it's like uh
0:17:49.200,0:17:53.520
the saturday after thanksgiving whatever
0:17:51.120,0:17:55.919
so about that time i'm starting to put
0:17:53.520,0:17:57.840
rabbit sounds in my presets because i'm
0:17:55.919,0:18:00.880
going after bobcats you know i wanna i
0:17:57.840,0:18:02.960
wanna kill and call bobcats so
0:18:00.880,0:18:06.320
i'll usually set my presets for my
0:18:02.960,0:18:09.440
rabbit sounds around 16 to 18. you know
0:18:06.320,0:18:11.120
that's my starting point uh and yes i'll
0:18:09.440,0:18:13.600
start there and i'm just constant i
0:18:11.120,0:18:15.919
shouldn't say constantly but just every
0:18:13.600,0:18:19.679
few seconds i'm moving my sound whether
0:18:15.919,0:18:22.320
it's up or down and yes i will get
0:18:19.679,0:18:24.320
light i probably don't go ever go below
0:18:22.320,0:18:28.559
10 but i will crank it all the way down
0:18:24.320,0:18:31.360
to round 10 9 10 11 somewhere in there
0:18:28.559,0:18:33.760
but i'll actually get pretty loud too at
0:18:31.360,0:18:35.440
times i'll ramp it back up to around
0:18:33.760,0:18:37.600
that 20 mark 50
0:18:35.440,0:18:39.039
volume and then i'll eventually get up
0:18:37.600,0:18:42.160
close to you know like three quarters
0:18:39.039,0:18:43.919
i'll let it go 28 30 32 but i don't
0:18:42.160,0:18:46.320
leave it there forever and i'll dial it
0:18:43.919,0:18:48.400
right back down around that 50 mark but
0:18:46.320,0:18:49.520
you're right i have seen a lot of times
0:18:48.400,0:18:52.160
when i
0:18:49.520,0:18:54.720
dial it back down to that to that
0:18:52.160,0:18:56.240
lighter sound you know around 10
0:18:54.720,0:18:58.720
that's when you see those coyotes come
0:18:56.240,0:19:00.640
and when or not coyotes but bobcats come
0:18:58.720,0:19:03.120
and like what i said earlier it seems
0:19:00.640,0:19:05.200
like when they do show up to win
0:19:03.120,0:19:07.760
uh either right after a pause and you
0:19:05.200,0:19:10.160
start to sound back up or when they show
0:19:07.760,0:19:12.400
up to uh the volume getting low they're
0:19:10.160,0:19:14.640
running in they're not sneaking and
0:19:12.400,0:19:16.480
belly crawling like uh it's kind of the
0:19:14.640,0:19:17.919
norm or what everybody talks about
0:19:16.480,0:19:19.600
they're running in like a coyote because
0:19:17.919,0:19:21.679
they're afraid they've lost that sound
0:19:19.600,0:19:23.679
or fixing to lose that sound and when i
0:19:21.679,0:19:26.080
say lose that sound they're thinking
0:19:23.679,0:19:26.960
they're fixing to lose that rabbit
0:19:26.080,0:19:28.320
right
0:19:26.960,0:19:30.400
yep
0:19:28.320,0:19:31.840
yeah that chicken hawk or that kind of
0:19:30.400,0:19:33.360
that's got that rabbit what they're
0:19:31.840,0:19:34.640
thinking in their minds probably you
0:19:33.360,0:19:36.320
know that's what they're thinking that's
0:19:34.640,0:19:38.480
getting away from them
0:19:36.320,0:19:40.799
and it just seems like it just triggers
0:19:38.480,0:19:42.559
a different response right right you
0:19:40.799,0:19:44.480
know i don't i don't hunt with a lot of
0:19:42.559,0:19:46.080
different hunters so so you know a lot
0:19:44.480,0:19:48.160
of this stuff you know just like
0:19:46.080,0:19:50.240
yourself i'm sure you know a lot of this
0:19:48.160,0:19:51.840
stuff we just learned on our own exactly
0:19:50.240,0:19:53.600
yes
0:19:51.840,0:19:55.280
you know so we're trying you know we try
0:19:53.600,0:19:57.200
to find a tune at the best we can but
0:19:55.280,0:20:00.160
it's nice to you know have these
0:19:57.200,0:20:01.679
conversations and and be able to
0:20:00.160,0:20:03.360
see what the other guys are doing it
0:20:01.679,0:20:04.720
looks to me like we're
0:20:03.360,0:20:07.120
right there with each other and that
0:20:04.720,0:20:09.280
makes me feel pretty good right well i i
0:20:07.120,0:20:12.159
think when it comes to successful what i
0:20:09.280,0:20:13.200
call successful coyote bobcat callers i
0:20:12.159,0:20:14.880
think
0:20:13.200,0:20:16.799
once people do get to talking with each
0:20:14.880,0:20:19.120
other once they do hunt with each other
0:20:16.799,0:20:21.039
they find out uh you know like i'm
0:20:19.120,0:20:22.640
saying if they're successful they find
0:20:21.039,0:20:24.880
out that their calling styles are pretty
0:20:22.640,0:20:26.640
similar uh yeah and a lot of and how
0:20:24.880,0:20:28.400
they set stands up are pretty similar
0:20:26.640,0:20:30.240
but i'm gonna go with t cory you ain't
0:20:28.400,0:20:31.679
gonna hide for me much longer we're
0:20:30.240,0:20:33.520
gonna be hunting together this fall or
0:20:31.679,0:20:34.880
winter i'm gonna tell you
0:20:33.520,0:20:36.480
i don't care what you say i'll just show
0:20:34.880,0:20:38.960
up in houston missouri knocking on your
0:20:36.480,0:20:40.640
door i know where you live
0:20:38.960,0:20:42.640
yeah i'd say you probably do you've been
0:20:40.640,0:20:44.400
by here a million times you just don't
0:20:42.640,0:20:46.559
stop yeah
0:20:44.400,0:20:48.559
well hey tell us about uh what about
0:20:46.559,0:20:50.480
running a decoy i know you like to run a
0:20:48.559,0:20:52.000
decoy from time to time on your bobcat
0:20:50.480,0:20:54.080
stands don't you
0:20:52.000,0:20:55.120
yes sir i do uh
0:20:54.080,0:20:56.320
and
0:20:55.120,0:20:59.520
you know
0:20:56.320,0:21:01.520
this new x decoy that was that fox pro
0:20:59.520,0:21:03.760
put out with the uh
0:21:01.520,0:21:07.039
you know with the xd speaker system on
0:21:03.760,0:21:08.720
the uh the x24s and the x2s
0:21:07.039,0:21:10.159
man that thing's pretty cool i really
0:21:08.720,0:21:13.360
like it i like it
0:21:10.159,0:21:16.720
uh a lot better than some of the other
0:21:13.360,0:21:18.400
uh call mounted uh decoys that they've
0:21:16.720,0:21:19.440
had in the past and well they currently
0:21:18.400,0:21:22.880
still do
0:21:19.440,0:21:24.960
but uh yes i love running a decoy on a
0:21:22.880,0:21:26.080
bobcat you know it really grabs their
0:21:24.960,0:21:28.400
attention
0:21:26.080,0:21:29.360
uh gives them something to look at and
0:21:28.400,0:21:32.400
uh
0:21:29.360,0:21:34.559
i'm not so much real crazy about using
0:21:32.400,0:21:36.480
one for coyote stands but
0:21:34.559,0:21:40.559
you know that time frame from that
0:21:36.480,0:21:43.840
november 30 or 15 to january 31st i've
0:21:40.559,0:21:47.919
always got a bobcat on my or excuse me a
0:21:43.840,0:21:49.919
decoy on my on my stand right right
0:21:47.919,0:21:52.080
good stuff yeah
0:21:49.919,0:21:54.799
i'm curious i'm curious to check out
0:21:52.080,0:21:56.720
that new blue bird that uh fox pro
0:21:54.799,0:21:58.400
topper i know uh
0:21:56.720,0:22:00.960
i know the guys out west have been i
0:21:58.400,0:22:02.640
haven't ran it yet uh but i know uh the
0:22:00.960,0:22:05.039
guys out west have been using you know
0:22:02.640,0:22:07.840
hal uses it a lot uh our buddy richie
0:22:05.039,0:22:09.679
gonzalez runs it and they've been seeing
0:22:07.840,0:22:12.080
great responses with it you know just
0:22:09.679,0:22:13.679
coyotes just tackling the thing so i
0:22:12.080,0:22:16.159
think it'd be pretty good for cat i'd
0:22:13.679,0:22:18.240
say it'd catch her eyes really well
0:22:16.159,0:22:20.159
oh absolutely
0:22:18.240,0:22:21.520
let's let's move on to coyotes i know
0:22:20.159,0:22:22.880
you're you know you're an excellent
0:22:21.520,0:22:24.799
coyote caller you know we're talking
0:22:22.880,0:22:26.720
about that a little bit and uh
0:22:24.799,0:22:28.799
are you a hunter that uh
0:22:26.720,0:22:30.320
likes to call coyotes year round i know
0:22:28.799,0:22:32.240
you're kind of slack off a little bit in
0:22:30.320,0:22:34.159
the summer but i've noticed you've uh
0:22:32.240,0:22:35.919
you've killed a killed a few here as of
0:22:34.159,0:22:39.120
late
0:22:35.919,0:22:42.799
yes sir i i do like to coyote hunt
0:22:39.120,0:22:44.080
year-round if i get the opportunities uh
0:22:42.799,0:22:46.320
you know i don't really have nothing
0:22:44.080,0:22:49.520
against summertime coyote hunting
0:22:46.320,0:22:51.200
uh at all uh i don't really care for the
0:22:49.520,0:22:54.480
ticks and the tiggers on the heat my
0:22:51.200,0:22:56.799
gosh who does
0:22:54.480,0:22:58.720
but uh you know
0:22:56.799,0:23:00.960
you know we like to do other things and
0:22:58.720,0:23:02.159
i kind of like to break it up you know i
0:23:00.960,0:23:04.559
like to spend a little bit more time
0:23:02.159,0:23:06.400
with family this time of year yeah but
0:23:04.559,0:23:09.039
and it's hard to it's hard to beat them
0:23:06.400,0:23:10.400
cool mornings you know uh
0:23:09.039,0:23:12.400
this time of year in a fresh cut
0:23:10.400,0:23:15.120
hayfield but uh
0:23:12.400,0:23:18.080
yeah i i really like the call year round
0:23:15.120,0:23:20.080
uh i really get started back up
0:23:18.080,0:23:22.799
actual coyote hunting
0:23:20.080,0:23:24.880
oh usually around october you know and
0:23:22.799,0:23:26.960
then of course i'm gonna chase a buck
0:23:24.880,0:23:29.039
seems like every year about them too
0:23:26.960,0:23:31.039
yeah sure but uh
0:23:29.039,0:23:32.880
yeah i'm just about your typical coyote
0:23:31.039,0:23:35.600
hunter i guess as far as that goes you
0:23:32.880,0:23:37.520
know hunt from november to march and
0:23:35.600,0:23:39.120
then do a little bit of their during the
0:23:37.520,0:23:40.880
summer time so
0:23:39.120,0:23:42.960
so what do you consider your favorite
0:23:40.880,0:23:44.640
time period to call coyotes at that
0:23:42.960,0:23:46.480
november through
0:23:44.640,0:23:48.880
march or
0:23:46.480,0:23:49.760
december's probably my favorite month i
0:23:48.880,0:23:52.240
just
0:23:49.760,0:23:54.799
you know i i really like those cold
0:23:52.240,0:23:57.039
frosty mornings uh
0:23:54.799,0:23:59.279
you know i like that that time of year
0:23:57.039,0:24:01.039
you know you you got uh
0:23:59.279,0:24:03.919
coyotes are really starting to wool up
0:24:01.039,0:24:06.000
they they respond really well to a call
0:24:03.919,0:24:06.960
seems like that time of year
0:24:06.000,0:24:09.120
uh
0:24:06.960,0:24:10.720
it just i just like that big woolly part
0:24:09.120,0:24:13.200
of the coyote and that just some cold
0:24:10.720,0:24:15.279
mornings you know i'm i'm right there
0:24:13.200,0:24:17.840
with you december's probably
0:24:15.279,0:24:21.120
from december 1st through the first two
0:24:17.840,0:24:23.120
weeks of january is probably my absolute
0:24:21.120,0:24:25.919
favorite times and for a lot what you
0:24:23.120,0:24:28.080
just said uh i love a big old fluffy
0:24:25.919,0:24:30.240
coyote you know oh yeah these they're
0:24:28.080,0:24:32.159
these summertime coyotes are fun they
0:24:30.240,0:24:34.960
come hard and you know they're a lot of
0:24:32.159,0:24:36.799
fun but they ugly as can be and full of
0:24:34.960,0:24:38.640
ticks and there's just a world of
0:24:36.799,0:24:40.960
difference how they look from now to
0:24:38.640,0:24:42.480
december and and you you kind of toast
0:24:40.960,0:24:44.240
ontario about how good they come to the
0:24:42.480,0:24:46.159
call you know you're they're coming to
0:24:44.240,0:24:47.360
prey distress sounds really well you
0:24:46.159,0:24:49.120
know you can switch from that prey
0:24:47.360,0:24:51.120
distressed stuff over to some coyote
0:24:49.120,0:24:53.440
fight stuff towards the end of the stand
0:24:51.120,0:24:54.720
and it kind of like they uh kick in the
0:24:53.440,0:24:57.039
gear for cause it's kind of almost like
0:24:54.720,0:24:58.559
a pre-rut season for them as well yeah
0:24:57.039,0:25:00.559
so it's like if they don't show up to
0:24:58.559,0:25:02.159
the rabbits or birds they'll show up to
0:25:00.559,0:25:03.919
the coyote vocal stuff and man we just
0:25:02.159,0:25:05.440
pile up a lot of coyotes in december
0:25:03.919,0:25:06.960
it's just a fun time to be out there
0:25:05.440,0:25:08.960
calling coyotes
0:25:06.960,0:25:10.320
yeah it's one of my favorite times for
0:25:08.960,0:25:12.720
sure
0:25:10.320,0:25:16.080
well i've still got my i do have my ink
0:25:12.720,0:25:17.760
pen and and pad of paper here uh we're
0:25:16.080,0:25:20.159
gonna dive deep i've got you right on
0:25:17.760,0:25:21.440
the spot i've got you right where i want
0:25:20.159,0:25:24.080
you corey
0:25:21.440,0:25:26.640
tell us tell us some of your secrets
0:25:24.080,0:25:28.640
i want what type of sounds do you like
0:25:26.640,0:25:30.559
to run in the summer months like if you
0:25:28.640,0:25:32.080
gonna go hunting tomorrow morning
0:25:30.559,0:25:34.000
and just for you guys know this is the
0:25:32.080,0:25:35.600
end of end of july so we're still in the
0:25:34.000,0:25:38.240
summertime mode
0:25:35.600,0:25:40.799
what type of sounds would you run
0:25:38.240,0:25:43.600
tomorrow morning
0:25:40.799,0:25:44.400
well tomorrow morning let's see
0:25:43.600,0:25:46.559
i mean
0:25:44.400,0:25:48.640
i'm i'm typically a vocal kind of guy
0:25:46.559,0:25:50.320
this time of year uh
0:25:48.640,0:25:52.000
i will run some
0:25:50.320,0:25:53.279
some prey distress sounds but it's
0:25:52.000,0:25:56.320
usually
0:25:53.279,0:25:59.039
going to be a fawn or a baby goat those
0:25:56.320,0:26:00.880
those are probably the only two sounds
0:25:59.039,0:26:03.679
that i'm going to run tomorrow morning
0:26:00.880,0:26:04.960
if i go hunting you know as far as
0:26:03.679,0:26:07.360
the prey
0:26:04.960,0:26:09.120
sounds yes yes
0:26:07.360,0:26:12.720
and uh
0:26:09.120,0:26:14.240
man i you know the female thor house any
0:26:12.720,0:26:17.120
any kind of
0:26:14.240,0:26:19.760
any kind of long female howl yep i will
0:26:17.120,0:26:21.440
definitely probably start my stand out
0:26:19.760,0:26:22.880
with you know
0:26:21.440,0:26:25.679
and then i'm gonna
0:26:22.880,0:26:26.960
give that a break and uh just gonna sit
0:26:25.679,0:26:30.320
there and
0:26:26.960,0:26:32.240
you know watch my fence throws and
0:26:30.320,0:26:34.880
and see if i can catch any movement for
0:26:32.240,0:26:38.320
about you know three four five minutes
0:26:34.880,0:26:40.000
and then maybe i'll decide to play that
0:26:38.320,0:26:42.400
falling distress down if i feel like
0:26:40.000,0:26:44.159
i've got a lot of deer in that area i'll
0:26:42.400,0:26:45.039
go ahead and play those sounds just to
0:26:44.159,0:26:46.960
kind of
0:26:45.039,0:26:48.559
maybe stretch the stand out i guess a
0:26:46.960,0:26:50.640
little bit longer you know there's
0:26:48.559,0:26:53.440
sometimes i i feel i don't want to feel
0:26:50.640,0:26:55.440
like i'm rushing you know to the end you
0:26:53.440,0:26:56.799
know i mean it's kind of almost
0:26:55.440,0:26:59.039
you know i think we kind of fall on a
0:26:56.799,0:27:00.720
pattern sometimes you know
0:26:59.039,0:27:02.480
we want to rush to that puppy sound
0:27:00.720,0:27:04.400
that's that's what we're killing coyotes
0:27:02.480,0:27:06.080
on but oh i'm the one i'm the worst in
0:27:04.400,0:27:07.840
the world getting in a rut i tell you
0:27:06.080,0:27:09.200
what i can't i can't get out of it once
0:27:07.840,0:27:11.440
i get in it
0:27:09.200,0:27:13.440
you know what i mean
0:27:11.440,0:27:15.440
i always try to break that up because i
0:27:13.440,0:27:18.399
know i'm i know i'm going to do it at
0:27:15.440,0:27:20.080
some point right and so i'm just i try
0:27:18.399,0:27:21.120
to stretch my stand out a little bit
0:27:20.080,0:27:22.559
longer
0:27:21.120,0:27:24.559
and just give them something different
0:27:22.559,0:27:26.640
maybe they've you know heard that puppy
0:27:24.559,0:27:28.880
sound before so i don't want to shoot
0:27:26.640,0:27:31.440
myself in the foot before i you know get
0:27:28.880,0:27:33.440
there so right that's why i'm trying to
0:27:31.440,0:27:35.200
play different things
0:27:33.440,0:27:37.440
you know in between a lot of times it
0:27:35.200,0:27:40.080
works i mean you know following the
0:27:37.440,0:27:41.919
stress right now is a killer i mean it
0:27:40.080,0:27:42.960
it just is that's what they're eating
0:27:41.919,0:27:44.960
right that's
0:27:42.960,0:27:47.679
you know that's their main protein
0:27:44.960,0:27:49.600
source right now other than maybe some
0:27:47.679,0:27:51.440
grasshoppers and honestly we don't have
0:27:49.600,0:27:52.399
a whole lot of grasshoppers right right
0:27:51.440,0:27:54.159
right
0:27:52.399,0:27:54.960
well that's all
0:27:54.159,0:27:57.360
you mean
0:27:54.960,0:27:59.039
you mentioned different sounds there
0:27:57.360,0:28:01.679
um have you you know we've got a new
0:27:59.039,0:28:03.520
partnership with mfk game calls you know
0:28:01.679,0:28:04.640
we've been playing around that library
0:28:03.520,0:28:06.080
some
0:28:04.640,0:28:09.919
over last little bit have you had a
0:28:06.080,0:28:11.600
chance to try out any of the mfk sounds
0:28:09.919,0:28:12.799
i have uh
0:28:11.600,0:28:14.559
and
0:28:12.799,0:28:17.039
i don't really
0:28:14.559,0:28:18.799
have a whole lot of information on the
0:28:17.039,0:28:20.559
new ones i've got them
0:28:18.799,0:28:22.080
you know it's kind of like that rut we
0:28:20.559,0:28:24.480
were just talking about you kind of get
0:28:22.080,0:28:26.960
stuck in that rut and
0:28:24.480,0:28:29.919
i've got the new msk sounds and they
0:28:26.960,0:28:33.039
sound great that the boom house oh man
0:28:29.919,0:28:36.320
man that is that is this killer sound
0:28:33.039,0:28:38.240
you know uh the 11 is it the 11 week old
0:28:36.320,0:28:40.240
pups
0:28:38.240,0:28:42.320
i've had i've had a lot of luck here
0:28:40.240,0:28:44.240
lately out of uh earlier on we was
0:28:42.320,0:28:46.159
running some that seven week boom pup
0:28:44.240,0:28:48.000
and eight week boogie pup and stuff like
0:28:46.159,0:28:49.919
that and having a lot of luck and
0:28:48.000,0:28:51.760
seemed like it kind of just died off
0:28:49.919,0:28:54.320
just a little bit so i bumped up into
0:28:51.760,0:28:55.360
the older pups like that 11 week little
0:28:54.320,0:28:57.440
bee pup
0:28:55.360,0:28:59.360
and some of those 12-week stuff oh man
0:28:57.440,0:29:01.760
this is like a flip trap back on and
0:28:59.360,0:29:04.159
just i mean screamers huh big you know
0:29:01.760,0:29:06.559
hard charging coyotes
0:29:04.159,0:29:07.919
well i'll tell you what tori tori cooks
0:29:06.559,0:29:10.240
got it going on over there with them
0:29:07.919,0:29:12.640
sounds yeah you know what what would
0:29:10.240,0:29:14.799
that be like john to have three or four
0:29:12.640,0:29:16.559
pounds that you can go see daily and you
0:29:14.799,0:29:17.520
know record sounds like that that was
0:29:16.559,0:29:19.120
just
0:29:17.520,0:29:21.279
i couldn't imagine all the stuff he's
0:29:19.120,0:29:23.440
learned you know having those coyotes
0:29:21.279,0:29:25.200
right there just just being around them
0:29:23.440,0:29:27.279
listening to them watching them interact
0:29:25.200,0:29:28.799
and uh you know
0:29:27.279,0:29:31.200
you know tory's a wealth of knowledge
0:29:28.799,0:29:31.919
and we'll have tori on here before long
0:29:31.200,0:29:34.159
so
0:29:31.919,0:29:36.480
um you know i'm really interested in
0:29:34.159,0:29:38.080
discussing that type of stuff with him
0:29:36.480,0:29:41.120
well i'm saying you'll probably learn a
0:29:38.080,0:29:43.039
lot for sure
0:29:41.120,0:29:44.640
what about
0:29:43.039,0:29:47.440
have you tried i mean have you run those
0:29:44.640,0:29:49.600
howls lately like the boone house
0:29:47.440,0:29:51.200
i have not run the boone house lately
0:29:49.600,0:29:52.720
and it's like i said it's nothing
0:29:51.200,0:29:54.960
against the sound
0:29:52.720,0:29:56.720
i just i'm just been kind of stuck in
0:29:54.960,0:29:58.720
that rut you know
0:29:56.720,0:30:01.200
what you know using what you know works
0:29:58.720,0:30:02.799
for this time yes sir yeah yes sir and i
0:30:01.200,0:30:05.520
shouldn't be like that i guess that's
0:30:02.799,0:30:07.200
just kind of send you but uh man i hate
0:30:05.520,0:30:09.440
i hate to come back home empty-handed
0:30:07.200,0:30:10.799
john i hear you well you don't do that
0:30:09.440,0:30:13.279
very often
0:30:10.799,0:30:15.840
oh boy i do it more than you think
0:30:13.279,0:30:17.840
we always hide them dry stands don't we
0:30:15.840,0:30:19.919
you bet you
0:30:17.840,0:30:21.600
well what about what about the fall
0:30:19.919,0:30:23.279
months how does your sound sequence
0:30:21.600,0:30:25.120
change up for the fall months from the
0:30:23.279,0:30:26.080
summer
0:30:25.120,0:30:29.919
uh
0:30:26.080,0:30:32.000
i mean i'll start transitioning over you
0:30:29.919,0:30:34.640
know more to the parade distress you
0:30:32.000,0:30:37.360
know come come the fall months
0:30:34.640,0:30:38.080
like i said you know i really want to be
0:30:37.360,0:30:40.720
a
0:30:38.080,0:30:43.200
be coyote hunting you know late october
0:30:40.720,0:30:44.640
and early november and i'll i'll try to
0:30:43.200,0:30:46.320
do those stands
0:30:44.640,0:30:48.720
you know sometimes when i have the
0:30:46.320,0:30:50.880
opportunity but i've always got that
0:30:48.720,0:30:53.600
buck in the back of my mind so right my
0:30:50.880,0:30:55.760
focus my focus a lot of times you know
0:30:53.600,0:30:57.200
gets ruined by a big buck somewhere but
0:30:55.760,0:30:58.320
uh you know
0:30:57.200,0:31:01.279
i may
0:30:58.320,0:31:02.480
i may try to you know start a standoff
0:31:01.279,0:31:05.039
with some
0:31:02.480,0:31:07.039
you know some lone howls of some type uh
0:31:05.039,0:31:08.320
whether it's a female sore house i
0:31:07.039,0:31:10.240
really like the
0:31:08.320,0:31:12.799
the long house the preset you know you
0:31:10.240,0:31:13.919
got your presets on the one and two and
0:31:12.799,0:31:14.960
the three
0:31:13.919,0:31:17.200
and
0:31:14.960,0:31:20.000
my favorite one of them longhouses that
0:31:17.200,0:31:21.519
that female longhow then the number one
0:31:20.000,0:31:23.760
yeah and i'll use that a lot because
0:31:21.519,0:31:25.360
it's got some good paws in it
0:31:23.760,0:31:28.320
and
0:31:25.360,0:31:29.679
then i'll make transl transition over
0:31:28.320,0:31:32.480
you know to
0:31:29.679,0:31:35.760
that woodpecker distress or
0:31:32.480,0:31:36.559
uh that baby cotton tail yep and then
0:31:35.760,0:31:37.760
you know
0:31:36.559,0:31:39.919
kind of
0:31:37.760,0:31:41.279
finish it off with a puppy distress but
0:31:39.919,0:31:43.519
you know that's
0:31:41.279,0:31:45.519
that's my typical fall stand right there
0:31:43.519,0:31:47.519
before i get into real hardcore
0:31:45.519,0:31:49.120
wintertime hunting yeah sounds like
0:31:47.519,0:31:51.120
we're pretty much the same and i
0:31:49.120,0:31:52.880
actually use those fox pro fox pro
0:31:51.120,0:31:54.799
female longhouse too
0:31:52.880,0:31:57.440
uh and actually that's instead of female
0:31:54.799,0:31:59.600
longhouse one i i tend to go to number
0:31:57.440,0:32:01.919
two more often but it sounds like we're
0:31:59.600,0:32:03.679
pretty pretty similar on that
0:32:01.919,0:32:04.880
yeah that's they're all it's very good
0:32:03.679,0:32:06.960
sounds and
0:32:04.880,0:32:08.640
i can't tell you how many coyotes that
0:32:06.960,0:32:11.200
i've just had come you know just for
0:32:08.640,0:32:13.919
that how yep you know and not really
0:32:11.200,0:32:17.039
have to do much you know after that to
0:32:13.919,0:32:19.039
get that coyote to commit and come on in
0:32:17.039,0:32:21.360
what about uh what about winter time you
0:32:19.039,0:32:24.559
know deep winter breeding season time
0:32:21.360,0:32:26.399
coyotes how'd you stand looking then
0:32:24.559,0:32:28.080
well um
0:32:26.399,0:32:30.080
like i said i'm always still looking for
0:32:28.080,0:32:32.320
that bobcat john right about that time
0:32:30.080,0:32:35.039
when you know that pre-rut starts
0:32:32.320,0:32:37.200
getting getting in there but if i'm
0:32:35.039,0:32:38.559
say i'm hunting a tournament
0:32:37.200,0:32:40.240
and uh
0:32:38.559,0:32:42.320
you know it's just a coyote only
0:32:40.240,0:32:45.200
tournament i really try to turn it on
0:32:42.320,0:32:46.960
with vocals and it's usually something a
0:32:45.200,0:32:48.399
little bit more aggressive i'll get into
0:32:46.960,0:32:50.640
them long house
0:32:48.399,0:32:53.440
but i'll get into more
0:32:50.640,0:32:55.120
excuse me i'll get into more male long
0:32:53.440,0:32:56.480
house
0:32:55.120,0:32:58.640
i'll play a
0:32:56.480,0:33:01.440
i'll play a female howl and then a male
0:32:58.640,0:33:03.519
howl right you know right behind it yep
0:33:01.440,0:33:05.120
and then you know just just get that
0:33:03.519,0:33:06.080
aggression up there
0:33:05.120,0:33:07.440
uh
0:33:06.080,0:33:09.760
because the best thing in the whole
0:33:07.440,0:33:11.200
world you know as coyote hunters what we
0:33:09.760,0:33:12.399
want to see we want to see them hard
0:33:11.200,0:33:14.000
chargers
0:33:12.399,0:33:16.399
and uh
0:33:14.000,0:33:19.039
the thing to get a hard charger is get a
0:33:16.399,0:33:20.559
man and
0:33:19.039,0:33:21.919
you know you want to see that brawl
0:33:20.559,0:33:24.159
coming and that's what they're doing
0:33:21.919,0:33:26.640
they're coming in there to whoop some
0:33:24.159,0:33:29.519
heidi you know and and run that coyote
0:33:26.640,0:33:32.320
out of there so my my typical winter
0:33:29.519,0:33:34.399
stand for coyote yeah i get
0:33:32.320,0:33:36.799
i get a lot more aggressive i guess i'm
0:33:34.399,0:33:38.399
gonna say you know with my sounds yeah
0:33:36.799,0:33:40.960
yeah well you mentioned
0:33:38.399,0:33:43.519
you mentioned bobcats there so you know
0:33:40.960,0:33:46.320
with this wintertime stuff so does your
0:33:43.519,0:33:48.640
how does your calling style differ
0:33:46.320,0:33:50.080
as far as sequences and sounds played on
0:33:48.640,0:33:52.720
the stand when you're hunting a spot
0:33:50.080,0:33:54.960
that you think you know is possibly
0:33:52.720,0:33:57.840
holding coyotes and bobcats how does
0:33:54.960,0:33:58.880
that type of stand look for you
0:33:57.840,0:34:01.120
well
0:33:58.880,0:34:02.960
you know i've learned i've learned a lot
0:34:01.120,0:34:04.840
in the last few years calling in more
0:34:02.960,0:34:07.919
bobcats
0:34:04.840,0:34:10.240
that my
0:34:07.919,0:34:11.119
you know a how don't really bother right
0:34:10.240,0:34:12.800
now
0:34:11.119,0:34:15.040
not at all i totally agree yeah
0:34:12.800,0:34:15.760
especially those big old toms
0:34:15.040,0:34:17.520
no
0:34:15.760,0:34:19.520
well heck even some of the smaller cats
0:34:17.520,0:34:22.000
i've had i've had some smaller cats you
0:34:19.520,0:34:24.240
know that'll be standing right next to
0:34:22.000,0:34:24.960
the call or close to it i may not see
0:34:24.240,0:34:27.919
them
0:34:24.960,0:34:29.599
i might roll into the house
0:34:27.919,0:34:32.079
and there's there's a cat standing there
0:34:29.599,0:34:34.320
and it it's just standing there
0:34:32.079,0:34:35.919
it won't even move you know it's like
0:34:34.320,0:34:39.520
well that didn't bother me a bit you
0:34:35.919,0:34:40.320
know right right and you know so
0:34:39.520,0:34:42.240
if
0:34:40.320,0:34:44.879
if i really feel like there's a there's
0:34:42.240,0:34:47.839
a cat there i may try to start off you
0:34:44.879,0:34:49.679
know go straight into cagey cottontail
0:34:47.839,0:34:51.679
or missing a cottontail or a baby
0:34:49.679,0:34:53.919
cottontail but
0:34:51.679,0:34:55.919
if i have any idea that maybe
0:34:53.919,0:34:57.760
i'm looking for a coyote first you know
0:34:55.919,0:34:59.359
you just kind of get that feel when you
0:34:57.760,0:35:01.200
sit on your sand
0:34:59.359,0:35:03.599
well let's start out you know trying to
0:35:01.200,0:35:05.200
howl in a coyote or you know well let's
0:35:03.599,0:35:07.359
go ahead and play distress because there
0:35:05.200,0:35:09.119
may be one or the other here so just
0:35:07.359,0:35:11.920
kind of the feel once you get to that
0:35:09.119,0:35:15.440
sand whatever it feels like to you
0:35:11.920,0:35:17.119
that's kind of how i start but uh
0:35:15.440,0:35:18.880
yeah play them house because they ain't
0:35:17.119,0:35:20.320
gonna bother them bobcats one bit and
0:35:18.880,0:35:22.560
that's a question
0:35:20.320,0:35:24.480
i get answered a lot you know why are
0:35:22.560,0:35:26.560
you do you back off your
0:35:24.480,0:35:27.839
you know coyote sounds
0:35:26.560,0:35:29.280
you know that time of year because
0:35:27.839,0:35:33.040
you're you're trying to call in more
0:35:29.280,0:35:34.960
ball cats right no i don't because it
0:35:33.040,0:35:36.240
it's never really seemed to bother them
0:35:34.960,0:35:38.400
so i just
0:35:36.240,0:35:39.599
i just play the coyote sounds if i feel
0:35:38.400,0:35:41.760
like it and then
0:35:39.599,0:35:43.520
if i don't have a respond to that i'll
0:35:41.760,0:35:45.920
just roll into them
0:35:43.520,0:35:47.359
to them distress sounds and
0:35:45.920,0:35:48.560
nine times out of ten if there's a
0:35:47.359,0:35:50.880
bobcat hanging around there you're
0:35:48.560,0:35:52.640
probably gonna come in right you know
0:35:50.880,0:35:55.119
when you made some good points there
0:35:52.640,0:35:57.119
about the coyote vocals um
0:35:55.119,0:35:58.000
you know i've been on plenty of stands
0:35:57.119,0:35:59.760
were
0:35:58.000,0:36:01.359
you know bobcats were the last thing on
0:35:59.760,0:36:02.800
my mind i didn't think there was any
0:36:01.359,0:36:05.839
bobcats around you know i'm thinking
0:36:02.800,0:36:08.079
about calling coyotes and so i start my
0:36:05.839,0:36:09.839
you know i'm pretty vocal heavy i'm i'm
0:36:08.079,0:36:12.160
starting out with some howls and all
0:36:09.839,0:36:13.760
this and uh you know i might switch into
0:36:12.160,0:36:15.680
a rabbit just to play for two or three
0:36:13.760,0:36:18.720
minutes case one's laying up here hungry
0:36:15.680,0:36:20.400
you know um and and nothing shows up to
0:36:18.720,0:36:22.720
the house and the rabbit and then i
0:36:20.400,0:36:24.880
start playing the pup distresses and
0:36:22.720,0:36:26.480
uh fights like the in heist and stuff
0:36:24.880,0:36:28.960
like that next thing i know i look up
0:36:26.480,0:36:30.000
and there's this bobcat trotting to the
0:36:28.960,0:36:32.320
call
0:36:30.000,0:36:34.560
you know what happened was he was coming
0:36:32.320,0:36:36.079
to the rabbit but i just didn't give him
0:36:34.560,0:36:38.480
enough time and he's already switching
0:36:36.079,0:36:40.560
to pup distresses and fights and the
0:36:38.480,0:36:43.040
sucker don't care he just comes trotting
0:36:40.560,0:36:44.800
right in anyway so you know
0:36:43.040,0:36:47.040
i mean it sounds like me and corey's on
0:36:44.800,0:36:49.440
the same page you know if you've got
0:36:47.040,0:36:51.599
coyotes and bobcats in the area and
0:36:49.440,0:36:54.079
you're open to taking either one don't
0:36:51.599,0:36:55.599
be scared to play the coyote vocals
0:36:54.079,0:36:58.720
because they
0:36:55.599,0:36:59.520
it i think it does affect some bobcats i
0:36:58.720,0:37:01.440
have
0:36:59.520,0:37:02.960
been in the same situation just like i'm
0:37:01.440,0:37:05.839
talking about
0:37:02.960,0:37:07.920
and catch a bobcat coming in or see a
0:37:05.839,0:37:09.520
bobcat leaving after i played like a
0:37:07.920,0:37:11.440
fight or something but who knows how
0:37:09.520,0:37:13.280
long the cat had been there you know
0:37:11.440,0:37:14.960
what i mean so but so
0:37:13.280,0:37:16.400
definitely don't be scared to play your
0:37:14.960,0:37:17.760
your coyote stuff on some of those
0:37:16.400,0:37:19.359
stands if you think you got a chance at
0:37:17.760,0:37:20.960
a coyote
0:37:19.359,0:37:22.880
well the good thing about blowing a
0:37:20.960,0:37:25.520
bobcat stand
0:37:22.880,0:37:29.040
is they don't process it i don't think
0:37:25.520,0:37:31.760
like a coyote does no you know no if uh
0:37:29.040,0:37:34.240
you know if i if i blow a bobcat fan i i
0:37:31.760,0:37:36.800
usually yeah i'll cuss myself going back
0:37:34.240,0:37:37.920
to the truck and be mad at myself for a
0:37:36.800,0:37:40.000
few days
0:37:37.920,0:37:41.280
but uh you know i'm gonna be right back
0:37:40.000,0:37:43.839
in there hunting that cat because
0:37:41.280,0:37:45.440
they've been bothering any at all right
0:37:43.839,0:37:47.119
right
0:37:45.440,0:37:50.560
well let me ask you this since we're on
0:37:47.119,0:37:52.880
that subject if you're on stand
0:37:50.560,0:37:54.440
and a bobcat and a coyote come at the
0:37:52.880,0:37:56.640
same time i'm talking about
0:37:54.440,0:37:58.160
simultaneously like just shoulder to
0:37:56.640,0:38:00.079
shoulder you got equal shot
0:37:58.160,0:38:02.480
opportunities at both
0:38:00.079,0:38:04.720
which one are you shooting first
0:38:02.480,0:38:06.480
well how big is the bomb kit i don't
0:38:04.720,0:38:09.920
care
0:38:06.480,0:38:11.430
12-pounder a little 12-pounder
0:38:09.920,0:38:14.160
12-32
0:38:11.430,0:38:16.800
[Laughter]
0:38:14.160,0:38:18.880
boy that 30-pound cat he might he might
0:38:16.800,0:38:20.480
get the bullet first but now i'm
0:38:18.880,0:38:21.920
probably going to go ahead and take the
0:38:20.480,0:38:24.400
coyote
0:38:21.920,0:38:26.560
and the reason being and the reason
0:38:24.400,0:38:28.640
being is i'm pretty sure i can probably
0:38:26.560,0:38:31.880
come back and kill that cat later on in
0:38:28.640,0:38:31.880
that coat
0:38:32.800,0:38:35.680
yeah
0:38:33.760,0:38:37.200
well that's that's pretty interesting i
0:38:35.680,0:38:40.160
actually asked that to abner the other
0:38:37.200,0:38:42.560
day and abner said you know i'm giving
0:38:40.160,0:38:45.760
it to that bobcat but my my finger's
0:38:42.560,0:38:48.079
already on that preset for pup
0:38:45.760,0:38:50.240
for the coyote
0:38:48.079,0:38:52.320
and i'll tell you guys i mentioned 12 to
0:38:50.240,0:38:54.079
32 pounds
0:38:52.320,0:38:57.440
there's nothing i ask you about this i
0:38:54.079,0:38:59.680
you know i when we call bobcats in
0:38:57.440,0:39:01.839
it seems like if there are really big
0:38:59.680,0:39:03.440
bobcat i know they're big and if they're
0:39:01.839,0:39:05.839
a really small bobcat i know they're
0:39:03.440,0:39:07.760
small but everything in between that is
0:39:05.839,0:39:09.440
just a bobcat to me i'm not very good at
0:39:07.760,0:39:11.599
guessing weights are you you know like
0:39:09.440,0:39:13.520
in that mid-range type cat like what
0:39:11.599,0:39:16.320
we're talking about you know say 15 to
0:39:13.520,0:39:16.320
25 pounds
0:39:16.400,0:39:21.040
yeah if they are really hard to gauge
0:39:18.800,0:39:23.200
you know and because you got so many
0:39:21.040,0:39:25.200
variables there with uh
0:39:23.200,0:39:27.040
you know with length and
0:39:25.200,0:39:29.280
and girth
0:39:27.040,0:39:30.880
and of course you know sex of the animal
0:39:29.280,0:39:32.400
is going to probably
0:39:30.880,0:39:33.680
play a little bit of role in that too
0:39:32.400,0:39:37.040
and i am
0:39:33.680,0:39:38.400
i'm just like you john i it is hard
0:39:37.040,0:39:40.400
for me to
0:39:38.400,0:39:42.400
you know tell the difference between
0:39:40.400,0:39:45.280
you know a
0:39:42.400,0:39:48.320
15 pound bobcat and a 25 pound bobcat
0:39:45.280,0:39:50.160
yeah it's just i can't do it and
0:39:48.320,0:39:52.160
i've killed some cats that were pretty
0:39:50.160,0:39:54.640
small and i you know
0:39:52.160,0:39:57.040
hey that's that's just how it goes if i
0:39:54.640,0:39:58.960
would have known that cat was
0:39:57.040,0:40:01.760
you know 12 pounds i would i probably
0:39:58.960,0:40:03.040
would have let him walk but right
0:40:01.760,0:40:05.599
you know you get in the heat of that
0:40:03.040,0:40:06.720
moment you know the thrill of the of the
0:40:05.599,0:40:08.880
the call
0:40:06.720,0:40:12.480
and it's really it's really hard to
0:40:08.880,0:40:14.400
gauge that it is it is for sure what uh
0:40:12.480,0:40:16.319
i think your your answer there is pretty
0:40:14.400,0:40:18.800
interesting and and
0:40:16.319,0:40:20.319
i think it's probably you know
0:40:18.800,0:40:22.839
like i said abner said he's shooting a
0:40:20.319,0:40:25.280
cat first and and
0:40:22.839,0:40:26.560
really if like you was talking about in
0:40:25.280,0:40:28.160
the heat in the in the heat of the
0:40:26.560,0:40:30.160
moment i'm probably shooting the cat
0:40:28.160,0:40:31.680
first too but really if you sit there
0:40:30.160,0:40:33.440
and think about it if you can stay
0:40:31.680,0:40:35.440
cool-headed enough
0:40:33.440,0:40:36.960
you've got a lot you know you always got
0:40:35.440,0:40:38.960
that chance of calling that coyote back
0:40:36.960,0:40:40.640
in with some pup stuff and fights or
0:40:38.960,0:40:41.839
give him a stop for his second shot
0:40:40.640,0:40:43.440
opportunity
0:40:41.839,0:40:45.200
but you know there's a pretty good
0:40:43.440,0:40:48.079
chance you could shoot that coyote and
0:40:45.200,0:40:49.200
that bobcat never even flinch
0:40:48.079,0:40:50.960
that's true
0:40:49.200,0:40:52.720
that is very true
0:40:50.960,0:40:55.680
i would like to kind of maybe have that
0:40:52.720,0:40:56.480
situation i've been close a couple times
0:40:55.680,0:40:59.040
uh
0:40:56.480,0:41:01.040
matter of fact it's been probably
0:40:59.040,0:41:03.359
about three years ago
0:41:01.040,0:41:05.839
i called in it i've been calling for a
0:41:03.359,0:41:07.839
long time and it was one of them where
0:41:05.839,0:41:09.520
you really didn't have time to make two
0:41:07.839,0:41:12.000
stands at the end of the day
0:41:09.520,0:41:13.920
so i just kind of i thought well i'll
0:41:12.000,0:41:15.359
sit here till either kill something or
0:41:13.920,0:41:16.720
it gets too dark
0:41:15.359,0:41:19.520
to see
0:41:16.720,0:41:21.920
and uh had a big male coyote come in and
0:41:19.520,0:41:23.760
i was actually packing the shotgun
0:41:21.920,0:41:26.000
that that evening
0:41:23.760,0:41:28.079
and coyote come up there about 20 yards
0:41:26.000,0:41:29.359
and i hit him with the shotgun
0:41:28.079,0:41:31.200
and uh
0:41:29.359,0:41:33.680
i thought i was done with the sand and i
0:41:31.200,0:41:35.920
was done with the sand i stood up and
0:41:33.680,0:41:38.079
was gonna go down there and retrieve
0:41:35.920,0:41:40.480
retrieve my coyote and right there's a
0:41:38.079,0:41:42.720
bump yet sitting i got about
0:41:40.480,0:41:44.560
old five or ten feet from my
0:41:42.720,0:41:45.680
from my setup and i left my shotgun
0:41:44.560,0:41:47.440
laying there
0:41:45.680,0:41:48.640
you'd already got up and was walking to
0:41:47.440,0:41:51.359
the coyote
0:41:48.640,0:41:52.880
yeah yeah and that that color or that
0:41:51.359,0:41:54.640
bobcat was just sitting there next to
0:41:52.880,0:41:56.480
some brush and i never knew it was there
0:41:54.640,0:41:59.040
until i started walking to get
0:41:56.480,0:42:00.560
get my coyote and he bounced off and run
0:41:59.040,0:42:02.960
off and
0:42:00.560,0:42:05.359
and that's that's i guess maybe that's
0:42:02.960,0:42:06.319
that scenario that we were just talking
0:42:05.359,0:42:09.599
about i
0:42:06.319,0:42:12.560
i called that bobcat back in john
0:42:09.599,0:42:14.560
you got to work on it this winter
0:42:12.560,0:42:17.440
you know i've i've called cats and
0:42:14.560,0:42:18.560
coyotes several times on the same stand
0:42:17.440,0:42:21.040
and uh
0:42:18.560,0:42:22.400
every single time if they show up
0:42:21.040,0:42:24.400
at the same time you know if you see
0:42:22.400,0:42:26.880
them out there coming
0:42:24.400,0:42:29.359
once the coyote sees that cat every
0:42:26.880,0:42:32.079
single time i've experienced that the
0:42:29.359,0:42:34.240
the bobcat gets the right away the the
0:42:32.079,0:42:35.520
coyote will usually flare
0:42:34.240,0:42:38.240
yeah
0:42:35.520,0:42:39.280
and i i don't doubt that one bit and i
0:42:38.240,0:42:40.800
think
0:42:39.280,0:42:42.960
you know what we was talking about
0:42:40.800,0:42:44.720
several minutes back about
0:42:42.960,0:42:46.160
go ahead and play your
0:42:44.720,0:42:48.960
your coyote sounds whether you're
0:42:46.160,0:42:51.200
targeting both animals you know
0:42:48.960,0:42:53.920
that that bobcat's not scared of that
0:42:51.200,0:42:55.760
kind of one bit right right and i think
0:42:53.920,0:42:57.920
it's the other way around i think that
0:42:55.760,0:42:59.680
you know most of these coyotes probably
0:42:57.920,0:43:01.440
have been whooped by a big old bobcat
0:42:59.680,0:43:03.280
somewhere and they know they know that
0:43:01.440,0:43:04.640
hurts they've either been whooped or
0:43:03.280,0:43:07.440
they got the bluff on them one of the
0:43:04.640,0:43:07.440
two for sure
0:43:08.560,0:43:12.000
well it's been some pretty good stuff
0:43:10.240,0:43:14.319
cory i'm gonna ask you just like three
0:43:12.000,0:43:16.400
or four little quick hit questions here
0:43:14.319,0:43:18.319
just so uh we kind of know a little bit
0:43:16.400,0:43:20.480
more about you and how you uh how you
0:43:18.319,0:43:22.240
like to call and one is what's your
0:43:20.480,0:43:24.640
favorite unit what you you know you can
0:43:22.240,0:43:27.599
run any foxpro unit you want right now
0:43:24.640,0:43:29.119
so what are you running
0:43:27.599,0:43:31.280
well
0:43:29.119,0:43:33.920
that's a very good question john because
0:43:31.280,0:43:35.440
it you know fox pros got
0:43:33.920,0:43:37.119
got a whole
0:43:35.440,0:43:38.960
bunch of really good
0:43:37.119,0:43:40.480
good units out
0:43:38.960,0:43:43.200
but i'm really gonna have to lean
0:43:40.480,0:43:45.920
towards that x24 that's gonna
0:43:43.200,0:43:46.800
i think that's gonna be my top choice
0:43:45.920,0:43:49.359
and
0:43:46.800,0:43:52.800
now if i was wanting to run two sounds
0:43:49.359,0:43:55.040
at once more often and i i don't
0:43:52.800,0:43:58.240
a lot of the times but uh
0:43:55.040,0:43:59.839
the x 2s would be you know the second
0:43:58.240,0:44:00.960
favorite there but either one of them
0:43:59.839,0:44:03.839
two calls
0:44:00.960,0:44:05.760
i really feel like that x24 just has a
0:44:03.839,0:44:08.560
little bit more volume
0:44:05.760,0:44:10.480
on the x2s and that that might just be
0:44:08.560,0:44:12.319
my ears but uh
0:44:10.480,0:44:15.920
that's the call i'm grabbing i believe
0:44:12.319,0:44:18.400
yeah yep all right well what about uh
0:44:15.920,0:44:20.839
what's your top three favorite sounds
0:44:18.400,0:44:24.319
when i ask you that what i mean it is if
0:44:20.839,0:44:26.480
if foxpro sent you a unit and they said
0:44:24.319,0:44:28.079
this year you can only run three sounds
0:44:26.480,0:44:30.319
you pick what they are that's what comes
0:44:28.079,0:44:33.680
on the unit you can add nothing to it
0:44:30.319,0:44:33.680
what three sounds are you picking
0:44:34.400,0:44:39.680
to hunt always
0:44:35.680,0:44:39.680
all year coyote 10 bobcats
0:44:40.240,0:44:42.800
well
0:44:41.680,0:44:44.640
number one
0:44:42.800,0:44:47.280
number one is going to be that cagey
0:44:44.640,0:44:50.240
cottontail because i've killed so many
0:44:47.280,0:44:51.680
coyotes and bobcats off of that sound
0:44:50.240,0:44:53.119
you know that's definitely going to have
0:44:51.680,0:44:57.440
to be on there i don't know if it's
0:44:53.119,0:44:59.520
number one but it's on that call yeah uh
0:44:57.440,0:45:01.359
yeah man and i'm a distressed guy i
0:44:59.520,0:45:02.560
really like the stress sound so i'm
0:45:01.359,0:45:05.280
probably going to go with that missing
0:45:02.560,0:45:07.200
the cottontail too so you got that you
0:45:05.280,0:45:08.800
got two rabbit sounds now you got kg and
0:45:07.200,0:45:11.119
misses my cottontail now you got one
0:45:08.800,0:45:11.119
more
0:45:11.359,0:45:16.160
oh boy
0:45:13.359,0:45:16.160
let's uh
0:45:16.319,0:45:19.920
let's go i'm gonna have to say female
0:45:18.400,0:45:22.480
sore house
0:45:19.920,0:45:24.400
female sore house nice nice so you got
0:45:22.480,0:45:25.839
female sore house and two rabbits to
0:45:24.400,0:45:27.440
choose from
0:45:25.839,0:45:29.680
yeah i think i can do some pretty good
0:45:27.440,0:45:32.480
damage with them then three right there
0:45:29.680,0:45:34.000
on bobcats and coyotes it sounds sounds
0:45:32.480,0:45:35.839
like a winner to me it sounds pretty
0:45:34.000,0:45:37.599
good that's pretty good uh choice on
0:45:35.839,0:45:39.520
your three sounds all right
0:45:37.599,0:45:41.200
got one more for you last one then we're
0:45:39.520,0:45:43.280
gonna wrap it up
0:45:41.200,0:45:45.760
what if we sent you a call
0:45:43.280,0:45:48.640
and it only has one sound on it you can
0:45:45.760,0:45:50.319
only run one sound for the year what
0:45:48.640,0:45:51.520
sound are you gonna have loaded on that
0:45:50.319,0:45:53.200
call
0:45:51.520,0:45:57.280
missing the cottontail
0:45:53.200,0:45:59.680
boom right there one of the newer sounds
0:45:57.280,0:46:01.440
ain't been out very long and it sure has
0:45:59.680,0:46:02.960
proven itself over the short time it's
0:46:01.440,0:46:04.880
been out had it
0:46:02.960,0:46:06.960
yes sir it sure has it's a very good
0:46:04.880,0:46:08.720
sound it's just got
0:46:06.960,0:46:11.520
it's got different depth
0:46:08.720,0:46:13.359
you know inside the sound it's got
0:46:11.520,0:46:15.680
you know a lot of high pitch it's got
0:46:13.359,0:46:17.599
rafts to it there's just a lot of
0:46:15.680,0:46:18.480
different things in that sound that make
0:46:17.599,0:46:20.480
it
0:46:18.480,0:46:23.280
you know the top shelf call
0:46:20.480,0:46:24.640
or top shelf sound that it is man that's
0:46:23.280,0:46:25.920
that's all and you can call anything
0:46:24.640,0:46:29.359
with it and call
0:46:25.920,0:46:30.960
gray fox red fox bobcats coyotes you
0:46:29.359,0:46:32.400
know whatever you're going after as
0:46:30.960,0:46:35.440
predator-wise they're going to come to
0:46:32.400,0:46:37.200
it it's a yeah it's a great great choice
0:46:35.440,0:46:38.720
and you can even win a pro tournament on
0:46:37.200,0:46:40.960
it too
0:46:38.720,0:46:42.800
it sure fires up the crow it fires up
0:46:40.960,0:46:44.800
everything that's for sure
0:46:42.800,0:46:46.720
i tell you what cory i really appreciate
0:46:44.800,0:46:48.640
you coming along with us man i've i've
0:46:46.720,0:46:50.319
learned a lot hopefully you know every
0:46:48.640,0:46:52.160
all of our listeners took something from
0:46:50.319,0:46:53.760
this too because man you're a wealth of
0:46:52.160,0:46:56.720
knowledge and i just really appreciate
0:46:53.760,0:46:59.040
you discussing this stuff with us well i
0:46:56.720,0:47:02.160
appreciate the you know the opportunity
0:46:59.040,0:47:04.079
and that that means more to me than than
0:47:02.160,0:47:05.520
you know me trying to get
0:47:04.079,0:47:07.680
you know
0:47:05.520,0:47:11.359
out there you know i mean i i just
0:47:07.680,0:47:14.240
appreciate the opportunities that foxpro
0:47:11.359,0:47:16.560
gives us staff members you know and that
0:47:14.240,0:47:18.079
that really means a lot to us well i'll
0:47:16.560,0:47:20.640
tell you what you're a staff member for
0:47:18.079,0:47:22.240
a reason and like i said we really
0:47:20.640,0:47:23.680
appreciate you coming on and we hope
0:47:22.240,0:47:25.280
everyone is listening enjoyed this
0:47:23.680,0:47:29.319
episode and we hope you join us again
0:47:25.280,0:47:29.319
right here on the foxpro podcast